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eleko1:
It is not in my character to engaged a young kid like U in e madness,it is a complete waste of time.I believe U are one of those young peeps still spoon feed by their parent,U are hopeless.Why?When U drain the 19k allawe,U'll knw better.

So believe that your earnings is more than mine? I pity ur condition. I don't need to show you my monthly income.
Get fact and get life.

Mynd44:
That letter is sent to everyone who pays. It is a pre-typed thing and all you do is to input the individual's name

I was the one that went to pay for our property. No letter received till this morning.

eleko1:
PDP are indeed PIGS.Useless party with clueless followers.2 wks to go sha.SAI BUHARI

So you agree that the pigs are now holding the best position in APC. Fool, your mental reasoning is low.
The likes of Amechi was raised by PDP and not the power hungry APC.
Did you remember that APC was AD? Did you remember they form AC? Have you forgotten ACN? Now APC, yet you are here saying rubbish.

Did you forget the 2011 presidential election? I hope you know how Tinubu betrayed Ribadu. I hope you know that APC spend X5 more ththan other parties on every election campaign.

Where's the money from?

Mynd44:
This letter is for his private residence and not his company Jay Kay pharmacy. You people should not attempt to lie.

If this is for the company, it will be addressed to the company and their address will be there. They should bring the one for the company out.

Stop the deceit, we are not biting!!!

You're dumb. How much is his private residents charge that the commissioner have to appreciate him? Logically a man who received appreciation letter from the commissioner is doing well.

whizdame:
nonsense pdp after blocking off about 400 m of akure main market
I went there most of them were speaking either igbo or one of those south south language
and they tried to buy student at futa by giving them money

You're the most useless creation we have in Nigeria. Speaking igbo, and south south languages in akure, or what did you say? I guess the massive crowd in PH rally are also speaking hausa, and yoruba.

If devil like it or not, GEJ will be the first president to rule Nigeria for 10 years.

zebra:
it may be true cos most graduates in Nigeria today, especially the ones from Nigerian universities are very incompetent and unemployable. They graduate without having any skills that can make them self reliant, that's why they always depend on govt to provide jobs for them where they can be claiming superiority over others with less contribution to the success of the work. They are unproductive.

Where are the college and polytechnic graduates that are doing better of university graduates? Where are the companies whose directors are HND holders? Could you give clear reference to back the point?
Bite off more than you can chew!

kinibigdeal:
This is in contrast to the write up created by Dr.Funmi "Tagged" 8 Reasons why Bsc is superior to HND". Though, his first paragraph doesnt abrade any controversies but the subsequents were too abased to the fact accrued. May i start by seeking the indulgence of the powerful Moderators here because i want to try as much as possible to avoid any form of altercation. Hence, i will be ambidextrous to use some of his points as a back up.

1. Entrance Qualification

The fact that the universities cut of mark is higher than that of the polytechnics does not justify the quality of the universities in Nigeria. It is rather apochyphal that some universities intentionally pull up their cut off mark in other to accomodate the high placed children over the less priviledge ones, this is rather too appalling. The first ever JAMB i took, i scored 245 beating the cut off mark of a particular university in Lagos stated as 60 while i scored 62, yet my name was not found on the first, second list. The shocking revelation my parents got from a particular lecturer whom we taught might help, altenuate any further attempt. The fact that the polytechnic accept a minimum of 4 credit(which is unfounded) in WASSCE/NECO shows the Avordupois(weight) of quality they possess which is an added advantage in Human capacity development than Certificate capacity development (CCD).

2. Quality of Lecturers

It is a balm to say that the university lecturers possessed a "Band" called PhD better than that of the polytechnic lecturers. A friend of mine graduated from the most famous private university in ogun state(2:1,chemical engineering), he told me in quote " one of our professor's doesnt even know how to apply the practical application of what he taught us, all he does, is to give us handout to memorize, though i graduated with 2:1 but with no practical knowledge to show up". To back up the aforementioned, i have handled a building project owned by a professor of construction management. To my amazement, i have read a lot of books, journals written by this same professor when i was in school but unfortunately, i have to be interpreting a simple structural/Building plan before he can understand better and i am just a trained Technologist(HND) by this polytechnic lecturers with no PHD or whatever. In the construction industry of today, No foreigner will ever choose a BSc holder over an HND holder(i stand corrected) because performance goes with profit and profit goes with experience. If i dont have a PhD but possess the practical knowledge to breed "Entrepreneur" i think am better off than a "Theoretical Entreprenuers". The easiest difference between the university lecturers and their counterparts is that, the university lecturers communicate in theory without practical while the polytechnic lecturers possess both attributes. It is left for you to choose the one you prefers.

3. Research work

I dont need to create any circumlocution about the incessant research work carried out by the universities but i will rather call such research work a"Churlish(Ill-breed) with no target for improvement, innovations, Technology but "Ego" on the numbers of papers they have written or rather the numbers of researchers that have cite their works. The polytechnic communicates with feasibility rather than paper guess. I remember the project(Group project) we did during my ND days, we were told to construct a 3 storey building using a cladding materials our supervisor saw when he traveled abroad. It took us a serious research and brainstorming before we could get the methodology right, and that was just at a lower class. How on earth will a degree holder with the same course background now dictate for such person in the industry? If that be the case, i think Nigerian economy is hovering towards conflagration.

4. Funding

I vividly remember clearly during the ASUU strike that the universities were accused of mis-appropriation of funds. With those huge funds allocated to them, what is the quality of their products? In project management, for you to have a quality product that will satisfy your client or customer, one of the factors you consider is fund. Therefore, if the universities are well funded as claimed by Dr. funmi, Are employees(representing clients) satisfy with their products(degree holders)? If yes, why do we still read complains on papers about "Half baked graduates"? Who do we blame here, the products or those producing it?. Hence, the political will of ASUU cannot be over-emphasized. Meaning ASUU is stronger politically than ASUP.

5. Quality of Student

Yes! the point that the polytechnic consist of dejected, not so young students who have written UTME many times is partially correct but the situation of Nigeria can be a suspected factors in this regards. But trust me, after 1st, 2nd year in the polytechnic, most of the dejected students now prefers the polytechnic to the university because of the "entreprenuership skill" gained within a short period of time. At this point, i disagree that the university graduates are of higher intellectual quality than the polytechnic graduates. I'll say let the industry decide.

6. Size and Beauty of campus

Am surprise this factor was included among the reasons why (Dr. Funmi) thought a BSc is better than HND. I can still mention some universities in the south-South, Northern Nigeria that are not up to standard but a replicate of the polytechnic or even worse than expression. I think the size of any institution is determined by the numbers of course offered while i wont venture into the argument of appearance because is of no use.

7. Preference/Demand

The consternation of a degree over the HND was apparent when the economy of the world was still at is climax or culmination, during those peripd a degree holder was more superior than their counterparts in the labour market but after the global economic melt down, there was high retrenchment, loss of jobs, companies now seek other alternative(HND) to remain in business and not to whine down. In nigeria of today, only few companies(Majorly administrative like KPMG, few oil firm) prefers a degree over HND as the two are now at par. Most online job advert now state either of the two.

8. Self Esteem

An HND holder that is not confident enough inspite of his rich practical background should work on himself better. That does not mean those that are not confident enough are half baked, some prefers to interprete what they know by practical than just an inconclusive mere talk. Self esteem is inbuilt, if you dont have it, train your mindset to have it. I think the polytechnic graduates are better off in this area because they have the picture of what they want to defend than putting their brain under a deletenous stress of recalling what theu cram in school.

conclusion

HND courses help you develop valuable technical and vocational skills. The profession you wish to pursue will affect your particular skill development. An HND holder possess the following "Transferable skills" aside the technical skills which their counterpart lacks

1. Numerical skills
2. Critical, analytical and problem solving skills
3. Organisation 4. Time management
5. Decision making 6. Self discipline
7. Team work 8. Leadership and flexibility

I guess the OP wrote this based on his understanding.
Why comparing university admission with polytechnic admission? As to your acclaimed 254 and 62 marks, there are hundreds of brilliant students who scored 250 and above, and 70+ in post utme, yet vying for the same course as you. Do you think you could be admitted when your competitors scored above you? Capital NO! Cut off mark is just for regulation.

Quality of lecturers? Maybe you're in hypnotic state. In the university i graduated, i could remember that incompetent lecturers were adviced to lecture in colleges or polytechnic. Not only that, lecturers that could not get his or her PhD aftrr 10 years in lecturing were also advice to join their colleagues in college or polytechnic.

Students quality you say? You are probably comparing yourself with that your friend from a private university in ogun state.

Research work? If you're a laboratory scientist, i would like to ask you some research related questions. Likewise you should ask me. "Bite off more than you can chew"

Size and beauty of campus? I began to think if you have stepped in any university at all. Maybe you're lucky to have some flowers in front of your school library. Right? I see.

My conclusion!

I am a biochemist and right from my day one in school, i never thought of writing application not to talk of submitting CV. Your personal ability is what determines who you are.

I am a biochemist and i will never compare myself with pharmacist, nore pharmacologist. Yet i know who shouldn't compare themselves with me. If you continue thinking about this, i bet you are likely to develop psychological problems.

University is Good, likewise Polytechnic.
I don't discriminate. But i know what's right!

Sometimes i ask myself whether these people went to school at all.
The Hausa people are so dumb that they don't even know what they are saying. Maybe only a countable few among them are excluded.
Among those boko haram members that was caught, is anyone from the south, east or west? Or do we have igbos whose hometown is the north?
Frankly speaking, igbos and Yorubas cannot be brainwashed to act suicidal.
Can APC say to the public they aren't behind the menace? Take a look at what they do in states where they loss election. E.g. ekiti state. Why are they frustrating Ayo fayose in ekiti? Why are they causing collision there?
If election is won by APC they say the election is free and fair, but if otherwise, they head to the court.
Why are they hungry for power? For the benefit of the masses or for their oligocentric advantage?
The truth be told, APC harbour violent politicians than any other political party in Nigeria.
Remember they even said their would be a parallel ruling in Nigeria if they aren't not declared the winner come 2015. So ask yourself, is APC for better Nigeria? Absolutely NO!
But whether they like it or not, they will lose gallantly come 2015.

oluwatobi01:
Yea,different strokes for different folks..By d way,u 'r nt yet a biochemist untill u 've a doctorate degree wth many publication...

That's fallacious! I'm a biochemist, i resound it. I know what i'm up to. If i was admitted to study medicine and surgery then, i would be a doctor today. So what's your reason for saying that?

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DJMONACO:
u r nt in science dept.

What do you mean by she's not in science department? I am a biochemist and i never remember any day i read at night and understand. If i try to read at night i wouldn't concentrate but chatting. So throughout my four years i don't read at night. I rather read in the morning or from 4pm to 9pm.

zleemshaddy:




so, pls can u tell me some of the challenges u faced @ some certain semesters. . Tenkz in advance

I had challenges and some of them were calculations.

I had challenges in...

Physics 101 and 102,
Math 101 and 104. During my time, math 104 was calculus in my school, and i wasn't thought in secondary school. So it was do or die.

Physical chemistry was also challenging when we got to Albert Einstein derivations.
Analytical chemistry 1 and 2 were hot. Only biochemistry, chemistry, industrial chemistry, and geology students took it then.

I didn't have much problems in biochemistry courses, but some were really threatening.
BCH 301, 303, 309, 311, 313, 302, 304, 306, 310 were the hottest in year three.

From year three we speak biochemically. What i mean by that is that all requirements were majorly structures (also known as biochemical pathways).

BCH 401, 411, 402, 410 and 412 were the major problems in my final year.
All the courses i listed were majorly pathways.

They are not that difficult if you have interest in structures. We draw structures so much and all medical students respect biochemistry for that.
Remember we took courses in microbiology and biology. Those courses are not strong because biochemistry would have get you more advance than what they entails.

Lest i forget, bio-statistics was a difficult course.
The course have topics like PROBABILITY, ANOVA, POISON DISTRIBUTION, CORRELATION, PERCENTAGE CUMULATIVE HISTOGRAM, ETC. The worst of it is time factor in the examination hall.

So, learn to manage your time and how to quickly grab the idea of whatever they request from you.

Good Luck!

zleemshaddy:
tenkz alot 4 d advise, am abt 2 study biochem also (great metabolite) n what u said will truely help me ..

Acetyl CoA

My story would inspire you guys...

I graduated with 2:1 through hard work. Although i am not too brilliant, but if i had put more efforts starting from my first year i would have be a 4 pointer. NO FIRST CLASS IN MY SET.
I am a biochemist.

My cgpa in year one was 2.95 Without a single carry over. I got that because i never read until a day to test or when the exam time table is out.

At the end of year two i got 3.0, still without carry over. I drink, but not that womanize.

I felt my dream is getting buried due to my poor performance because my friends are 4 pointers, so i picked up the challenge in my third year. In first semester of 300 level i had 4.45 gpa. Not too good, but i knew i tried. I can do better, yet the pressure in that level was much. Second semester i had something a bit lower because i involved in politics. At the end of my third year my CGPA was 3.42.

In my final year i have much work to do, yet i head much programs. I was the leader in my seminar group which i had to shoulder the whole research and slide preparation. I struggled and i push my cgpa to 3.46 At the end of first semester final year.
In second semester i was also the head of my project group. I ran errands and got occupied with activities because my project took 6 months.

But..., at the end of my study i graduated with 3.52.

I knew quite well that i am a product of 4 point, but the euphoria of first year had really caused much to my low grade.
My intimate friends got 4.1, 4.42, 4.3. but i got 3.52

Throughout my study i never had a carry over, yet i don't read at night.
Biochemistry, hmmm! Not easy.

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