₦airaland Forum

Gtunery:
I tell you this, Nigeria will be better off if every state manages it's resources, and provides a qouta to the fed govt. either that or Nigeria dissolves into six regions. The north over time has lost it's essence, the depend heavily on revenue from crude oil, without it they will surely suffer economical, political and social crisies. not just the north every state except from lagos. Lagos is the only state that can be self sufficient. There's one thing I know as long as we continue like this Nigeria will grow at a very slow rate, the vision 2020 will never be realised. We need true federalism thats the way out to growth and development. God help us.

glad you have the guts to say it as it is

morpheus24:
Ehen now you are saying something most of us are trying to agree upon but watch real qucik who will oppose this demacation when it comes into the  public sphere

young man if you want to break from nigeria initiate the move and leave or are you also waiting for the north to initiate it for you? i have said it before if you dont know how its done go and ask ojukwu

debosky:
@ Dranoel

unlike the oil money which the north freely gets without doing anything for it or helping in any way, the 87% of food sourced from the North is PAID FOR, so what exactly is your point?

foood is paid for because people plant seeds it grows and they sell! do you plant oil? if you do please tell me how its done so i can buy land and start cultivating

debosky:
@ Dranoel

Trade will continue between North and South if there is a split, but there is no doubt that the North is greatly impeding the growth and development of the South. The Abuja you live in is built solely on oil money from the south, so even that would not exist without the oil.

and modern lagos built by gowon with what,let me see ooh oil! no wonder you guys keep saying south instead of south south, south nwest or south east. is the north also spending rivers monthly allocation?

debosky:
@ Dranoel
The people stopping the division of Nigeria are from the North, along with a few collaborators from elsewhere. Take case in point - when the political reforms conference by OBJ was under way, and the South South wanted 25% derivation, the higher number of states from the North (19) used their 'bloc vote' to defeat the motion by the South to increase its share of its OWN resources.

Simply speaking, the lopsided nature of the federation gives the North higher say in the running of the country due to higher numbers, unfortunately so.

and good old poor OJUKWU with all the bloc vote still went ahead, hmmmmmmmmn

Axis:
Simple question?
why do yoruba married women sleep around like prostitutes?

because they are simply dumb! they wag their heads instead of their tails

and if i may ask you who is actually stopping the division of nigeria? cause obj just ruled for 8yrs and nothing has happened.

it was not just the northerners that fought the ibos,it was the rest of the country(in plain english every body stopped the ibos)

so if anyone wants to leave be my guest or dont you know how to start? go and ask ojukwu!

morpheus24:
he is probably a bastardized Hausa man disconnected from his true origins like much of the north.

and you are what? a confused black man who looks at the mirror and thinks he's white like most of the south

abdurrazaq:
@poster, the last segment of your first post is exactly what you are accusing the Southerners of doing. You quickly jump to the defence of the North on all allegations levy against them by the Southerners. If, according to you and some other analyst on this forum and other places, the North can survive without the south and they are not parasites _{(because that's what they are to me. I'm also getting used to being labelled a fraudster)}, let them move away and keep their food and let the south keep whatever they have to survive.

Please stop talking about cows, sheep, goats, fowls coming from the North. Rice consumed in Nigeria today are not from the North. Handsets, Jeep, cars, most of our clothes_okirika and many other important commodities are not from the North and we've been having them in abundance _{only that money to buy sometimes could be scarce}

it amuses me how the same Asari Dokubo tends to want an ijaw nation and you are here talking about souths survival,infact lets face it squarely on the six zones and then we will see who survives and who doesnt survive!
its a ahame you are talking about rice,so thats all you eat in your house abi? the recent body language from the north shows they no longer care about anyones ox.

talking about land lock,doesnt rivers benue and niger pour into the delta? and if the south refuses the dredging,cant it be done through river benue via the cameroun route?

how many of the solid minerals in this country are actually being tapped? and which region has it most?

@truly-opal

thank you very much,

we cant as a men keep complaining that mummy has not fed us and so therefore we will not eat

and i will call them (especially Asaro dokubo) silly little lazy thieves

@adconline

you can as well become south african and do their dirty work

Its sad how most southern contributers on nairaland have come to symbolise the north as everything bad. A southerner is married and no issues,oh lets blame the north,obasanjo steals money,lets blame the north,nddc chairman burns 270million in a cementary,lets blame the north,ibori steals money lets blame the north,neap takes light,letsa blame the north,anenih doesn’t fix benin-ore road,oh lets blame the north,a southerner arrested for drug peddling,lets blame the north,HABA!

I’ll would like to look at some of these issues

Asari dokubo (of all people) stands up to call people parasites! How? Asari as I know is the epitome of laziness and the new symbol of any man who at 40yrs is stilling living with his parents and collects weekly allowance or how else can you explain who stands on a piece of land and takes up arms because oil is found there(which he knows nothing about its formation or did Asari plant oil in the delta?).how can he be calling some one who actually farms or some one who is rearing cattle (even if he is a herdsman he is actually working) a parasite? Will any sane person call a man who is toiling the soil for food lazy and then say the one who stands and says “aah theres oil in my land” hardworking? For me this is a more or less the case of a lazy brat waiting for inheritance money period! The people of texas and Norway regardless of the abundance of oil in their land have found better and useful things to do with their lives. There is oil in your land so what? The land is polluted so what? Is it more polluted than Hiroshima? Should the people of Hiroshima resign themselves to faith? Haba Asari do something meaningful with your hands and lets see if anyone will collect it from you. A state like delta is collecting twice the allocation the whole of north east is collecting and yet they cant develop a population of 2million! Aint that a shame? So without oil they cannot develop abi? If so thy are worst than the northerners they so much hate!

The north will suffer with out the south. Anyone who nsays that is an ignorant fool who needs a brain check! Go to federal statistics office and check the records. The north produces only 8% of its estimated food capacity,the south on the other hand gets about 87% of its food needs from the north. Now tell me if Nigeria should split wouldn’t the south be importing food from the north? If yes,do you think the tuber of yam you buy at say 250naira will still be sold at that amount? The answer is no,oil money will be used to buy food(hope you guys read about the world food crisis) more like iraq,and guess who will be the beneficiary! Nigeria nay the north has the capacity to feed the whole of Africa and much more. Necessity is the mother of inventions,take away oil and you will see food!. And talking about parasite,you get 87% of your food needs from someone you are calling a parasite.funny.

The north is an arid land. Yes sokoto,kano,jigawa e,t,c but there is also benue,taraba,kogi,nasarawa,plateau,southern gombe,southern adamawa,kwara,bauchi,niger and southern kaduna, are these areas also arid? And has it occurred to the southerners that these areas joined together are bigger than the whole south in terms of landmass? As for those comparing the north with chad and niger these countries are completely arid unlike the north.

The north contributes nothing to VAT because of sharia and alcohol blah blah blah. Lets be a bit objective here. Using statistics,the people of benue,southern kaduna and plateau (jos) consume alcohol more than any part of the country yet some one will say because of sharie ban on alcohol the north contributes nothing to VAT. It is a well known fact that the hausa stock are amongst the worlds biggest smokers yet they don’t contribute to VAT abi? Recharge cards,fuel e,t,c is only sold in the south abi? Come to think of it dangote is the biggest employer of labour asides government yet the north contributes nothing abi? HABA!

Nigeria”s bad image! Aah aah what has this got to do with the north?if anyone looks down on you because of the green passport the reason is quite simple,southern prostitution, southern visa racketeering, southern drug peddling, southern yahoo(which is now glorified in their music), southern 419, southern forgery, and southern fellows who because of low self esteem leave their country in droves to become second class citizens in another men’s country! If things are so bad in the country why not stick around and contribute your own positive part? If Americans or the Japanese had left their countries in droves like that to become fishermen in others country will their country be what it is today?

You people should hold your peace and leave the north alone! If an individual does something hold the individual responsible and leave the north alone!
Your governors are there,if you are so good develop at your own pace instead of looking northwards to apportion blame atleast that’s what Fashola is doing.
Remove the log in your eyes before you struggle with the toothpick in another mans eye!

clearly you aint a good student of history,cause if you were you would have heard about the old kwararafa kingdom or you must have read about the bastard tribes but any ways we thank God for the internet! you can go and check before i start a history class with you

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Nigeria1@:
DRANOEL, you are not well inform, i spent some of youthful days in ilorin, kwara. we went to school with some of this people children you listed. I would tell you this because a yoruba man has a muslim name does not mean he is fulani. It is an issue of religion. I have family member from kwara and I would tell you this, they are as yorubas as Oduduwa. And they never claim to be fulani. What Dr olusola saraki said at that time, was misquoted by many people for political gain. It was politics.

Olusola saraki is as yoruba 100% as olusegun obasanjo, or chief obafemi Awolowo. only gambari may be 70%

1.TUNDE IDIAGHBON- 100% Yoruba

2.JUSTICE MUSTAPHA AKANBI-ICPC = 100% Yoruba

3.JUSTICE ALFA BELGORE-FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE = 80% Yoruba, I am not sure.

4.GEN. MOHAMMED ABDULLAHI-FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF = I am not sure

5.LATE GEN. ADISA- FORMER WORKS MINISTER = 100% Yoruba

6.THE GAMBARIS = 70% Yoruba ( mix blood)

7.THE SARAKIS = 100% Yoruba

8.TOYIN SUBAIR-100% Yoruba

9.AKANBI ONIYANGI- 100% Yoruba




Many historial record links the Yorubas with the north above the niger are nupe(tapa), some says the the kanuri(it as not been total proved. but you notice the similarity in tribal mark and same story from egypt, but many disagree). May be also the gwari. but I am 100% sure of the Tapas(nupe)


While below the niger but still in the north in quote are Igalla, Igbrra,Borgu, Tiv, jukuns, which group are trace or link to the yorubas. You would note similarity in words .

what makes a person 100% yoruba? let me guess,when the only yoruba blood in you is traced to your mother right? this names listed are mostly people who have worked in the public sector and as such filled forms themselves that are on record so its either you are claiming to know more about them than themselves or you are just stark stupid!


links to the yorubas indeed! igalla,egbirra,jukun are kwararafa tribes(hausa banza).to explain it better to you these are tribes fathered by hausa princes but from slave women.
as for tivs,they are later day migrants from east africa

maybe no one considers biafra a serious issue

seems some of you are actually being scared of oil been found in the north,well you guys can go on night vigil and pray oil doesnt get found

sorry to say but from all that has been written and said,its clear the southners are a bunch of lazy criminal minded people who are quick to blame the northners for all their problems. for heavens sake if some one feels another part of the country is holding it down why not develop at your own pace? or are the present governors in the south from the north? or is some one using ekiti states resources to develop sokoto,i beg you people should allow us hear word!

DeepZone:
This is ridiculous. Adisa and idiagbon are not yoruba?

go and check their own records written by them

DeepZone:
Thank you. Dragonoel is probably one of those Kwara Yorubas that love to deny their ethnicity simply because of political purposes and that's why he wants to drag some Yoruba eminent Kwara indigenes to think along his line. It's a shame.

too bad i aint from kwara

tpia:
I think the problem is people who have Fulani blood, always want to identify with their Fulani heritage (especially when it comes to politics) , but at the same time they're in a quandary because its rather hard to proclaim yourself Fulani when you look more like your other tribe. The Fulanis have a very distinct look.

And for example, you rarely see an overweight rural Fulani because their diet is not fattening,they have a lean look and they're very active. Cant say the same for the town ones, who are mainly mixed.

The Fulani themselves seem to have attempted to find a compromise for this issue of intermixing and intermarriage, by labelling some parts "hausa Fulani". That way you know such people are mostly part hausa, part Fulani or just generally intermingling.

some one actually wrote an article on why fulanis in ilorin dont like calling themselves yoruba fulani and his conclusion was that the fulani's there think the the yorubas are inferior

adconline:
from all these Naija pictures, where is the magnificent infrastructure like SA. Thanks for showing the difference. Naija pictures look like under-deloped terrain, while SA pictures show a developed/developing place. I don't know why we have mosques as tourist attractions.

that is not a mosque but a palace.

yeah might not be magnificent as you said but atleast its truly black african built

Ibime:
Na by force?. . . . abeg these people should stop wasting NNPC money searching for oil that is not there. . . . if there is oil in the North, they would have already found some in Chad and Niger.

contrary to that theres oil in chad

tiv dancers benue nigeria

bauchi nigeria

obudu

@tpia
your point is?
why not try disputing

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lagos

third mainland bridge lagos nigeria

kaduna nigeria

abuja stadium

calabar nigeria at night

abuja city gate nigeria

abuja nigeria at night

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