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Crime / Re: Fulani Herdsmen Battle Otukpa, In Benue, Many Feared Killed by DRANOEL(m): 11:53pm On Aug 10, 2017
zurich1010:
Where are Benue Men for God in Heaven? Idoma people get yourselves out of this mess you are in by joining Biafraa. You have nothing in common with Tivs....Tivs can join hausa-fulani as over 50% of them are muslins.

Are you drunk on urine or what? More than 50% of Tiv people Muslims? Who told you that lie? Bros, Idomas are the ones with a Muslim population. This goes to show how shallow Kanu & co are with regards to Benue.

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Politics / Nigeria Fun Facts: Obudu Cattle Ranch/mountain Area Belongs To The Tivs by DRANOEL(m): 6:12pm On Oct 19, 2016
Strange but true.

Obudu mountain area is inhabited by the Becheves and Utangas who are the indigenes of the area. For those of you who do not, Becheves and Utangas are actually Tiv people and are part of the Tivoid group which includes Becheve's from the Republic of Cameroon, Nassarawa, Benue, Cross River, and Taraba.

Another fun fact, the Tivs are amongst the few tribes in Nigeria that had the privilege of having it's people belong to both the Southern and Northern protectorate during the colonial era.

Just for information cheesy wink

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Politics / Re: Photos Of A Nairalander's Situation Room by DRANOEL(m): 10:32am On Mar 31, 2015
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Politics / Re: Jonathan Defeats Buhari In All Cross River LGAs by DRANOEL(m): 6:48pm On Mar 30, 2015
raumdeuter:
Just 300k difference?

I dash them Oyo + Ogun difference.

Katsina tackles Rivers, Jigawa + Yobe tackles Akwa-Ibom

Kano, Gombe , Sokoto, Bauchi still in the cooler

over wicked the worry you grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: Presidential Result In Akwa Ibom: PDP Wins, APC Rejects Result - The Nation by DRANOEL(m): 5:33pm On Mar 30, 2015
highlly disappointing, are Rivers, Enugu, Akwa Ibom results the results that will match the NW??
Politics / Re: Buhari Overtakes Jonathan In Benue, Gets 250,000 Votesby by DRANOEL(m): 3:16pm On Mar 30, 2015
Firstly, this is my opinion which was built on interactions, the tempo of the people and the general feeling in the State.

All lot of permutations are being made with most(if not all) showing Benue as a sure state for Goodluck to win convincingly, this permutations are made on the premise that Gabriel Suswam will pull his weight as the sitting governor added to the force of David Mark. Also, some believe that Benue being the only Northern State with a 98% Christian majority and with their experience with the Fulani herdsmen, a vote for a Fulani man talkless a muslim will be a no no for them. All these are far from the reality on ground, the Benue electorate (both in town & grassroots) in this coming elections are perhaps the most politically conscious electorates in the country right now, from the farmer in the thick village to the fisherman in the riverine areas to the white collar jobber in the towns, the political discussions are centred on voting individuals and not party and considerations are placed on antecedents, baggage, goodwill and sense of injustice. The principal supporters of the president in Benue (Suswam, Mark, Ayu, Morro) are actually the principal reasons the president will not be getting a slice of Benue. Suswam is considered by almost all in Benue as the dark spot of the state, in eight years apart from raising the financial status of various girlfriends, putting money in the hands of thugs and cultist, the governor has really not done anything in the State. This is evidenced in the fact that during the President's visit, He had to commission a renovated primary school as the achievement of the governor. Suswam is basically hated by the Benue electorate, so much that the PDP governoship candidate in the state despite being a young man with the potential to move the state forward, has a herculean task to climb because of his association with Suswam, whenever he goes campaigning and tells the electorates to vote for him so as to continue the good works Suswam started, the people ask; what continuity,? the continual owing of civil servants salary (now 5 months), the continual looting of state funds, the continual nonchalant attitude towards the Fulani invaders, the continual funding of babes, or the continual elevation of thugs? To paint a better picture of how Suswam is a liability, Barnabas Gemade a hitherto selfish and unliked politician in the state is now praised to high heavens, simply because he is battling Suswam for the senate sit, Suswam winning Gemade is day by day becoming an impossible task talkless of him garnering votes in his senatorial zone for Jonathan, in fact Suswam is rumoured to have lamented to some close aides about the President's inefficiency in handling INEC and making Jega to fall in line, He is rumoured to have said his and others election is now a tight rope, something that would have been a walk over if only the President had hoodwinked Inec from the get go.

David Mark, though his senate sit is more or less guaranteed, the same cannot be said about his zone's support for Jonathan and/or the governorship candidate. David Mark will be riding on the back of the fact that he paid off every reasonable challenge against him and is smart enough to understand that the general feeling of his people towards Jonathan is low, He has infact through his own campaigns (not the presidential or governorship rallies) managed to sub consciously pass the message across that he is only asking for his senate sit and it shouldn't be confused or mixed up with any other election. Ayu and Morro are political liabilities in Benue, the surest way to lose an election in the state is having them on your train.

Added to all this is Goodluck himself who despite the huge support he got from the state, has managed not to do anything in the state for the past 4years. In addition, the Tivs who have a 70+% majority in the state have been politically side-lined in the national level. Besides, the general feeling in the state is that of a President who has no idea what his job functionality is, mention the name Goodluck in the villages and you will be lucky if you are not vulgarly insulted. Posters of Jonathan are only displayed in a few towns as he is tied with Suswam as one and the same person. It is even said that if Goodluck rigs Benue the best he can get is 30% of the votes, the situation you have in Benue according to the people is a useless Suswam teamed up with an unpopular President and supported by Ayu/Morro who have lost every respect of people against a Buhari who is seen as someone different from the usual, supported by Akume who has a cult following and Ortom, who even though has issues with how he became APC governorship candidate, has lots of respect in the state for giving back to the people by propping up small industries across the state.

Anyone who says Goodluck will win Benue is only living a day dream, for the indigenes of Benue, Goodluck will definitely lose Benue; the question is, how bad will he lose? Discussions are not on whether he will lose or not, discussions are on the extent of his losing.

did I say it or did I not say it?? grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: INEC Announces Results In Benue, Jonathan Taking The Lead - Leadership by DRANOEL(m): 9:42pm On Mar 29, 2015
SeverusSnape:
The fact is this; North Central as a whole is for GEJ.

GEJ TILL Buhari STOPS HIS FULANI MARAUDERS FROM KILLING BENUE INDIGENES.

Toktee what's up?

pump your breaks, that's David Mark's senatorial district (idoma area), just wait for the high population areas of zone B and zone A,
Politics / Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by DRANOEL(m): 12:05pm On Mar 29, 2015
unconfirmed reports say going by the count so far, Gabriel Suswam is losing to Gemade
Politics / Re: Official: Jonathan Wins Ekiti State by DRANOEL(m): 11:27am On Mar 29, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


FINAL RESULT FROM EKITI: PDP - 176,351
APC - 120,308

I will attach sources in a moment!

that was expected, he was projected to win ekiti, the koko is the remaining five south west states and Benue/Kogi/Taraba/Nasarawa

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Politics / Re: 2015: Results From Benue Will Shock Jonathan - opinion by DRANOEL(m): 11:25am On Mar 29, 2015
Polling unit results from Benue have so far proved me right grin grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: Buhari Should Deny It, If He's Not Getting Funds From ISIS, Al Queda - FFK by DRANOEL(m): 12:58pm On Mar 21, 2015
one question for FFK;


IS IT TRUE YOU ARE A JUNKIE?

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Politics / Re: Election Violence: Open Letters To President Jonathan And General Buhari by DRANOEL(m): 12:11pm On Mar 21, 2015
barcanista:
Again you are showing your wickedness and support for it.
1. There is the court to determine whether elections were rigged or not.

2. 99.999% of people that supporters loyal to Buhari killed were ordinari citizens whose and not government officials or electoral officers.

3. Killing of corp members can never be justified.

4. Your Buhari and CPC "Bailed" the perpetrators of the violence from police custody www.vanguardngr.com/2011/05/post-election-violence-cpc-effects-bail-of-600-suspects-in-kaduna/

5. You are one reason Nigerians ought to be careful.

Cc firefire mogidi anonimi phockphockman dein77 truckpusher Ngwakwe etc

there is also the court to determine if the agents of mayhem were supporters/had the approval of Buhari or not

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Politics / Re: Buhari Won NL Presidential Poll(2011), USA Govt Poll (2007) But Lost The Electio by DRANOEL(m): 8:06am On Mar 20, 2015
barcanista:
1. Buhari Won Nairaland 2011 Presidential Opinion Poll

www.nairaland.com/585935/nl-official-presidential-opinion-poll
FINAL RESULT:
GEJ(PDP)- 22,495,187/58.89%
GMB(CPC)- 12,214,853/31.98%

2. Buhari Defeated Yaradua(RIP) In USA Govt 2007 Poll

https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FoMBO/conversations/topics/43
FINAL RESULT:
Yaradua(PDP)-24,638,063/69.82%
Buhari(ANPP)- 6,605,299/18.72%


For this 2015 election, Buhari has been winning virtually every ONLINE poll where participants are not verified and participation is restricted to only group with access to that information. For instance, diasporans, foreigners, underaged, people that usually sit in their parlours with full AC blowing on the day of election, and people without voters card with access to internet may participate in online poll. Multiple voting, IP masking etc are not uncommon. Most people that makes up the larger number of voting blocs(the hustlers, traders and so-called illiterates) usually don't have any idea of online poll, not to talk of participating.

General Buhari and APC, learn your lesson and expect another defeat next Saturday.


Sai GEJ>>>2019

First of all, your obsession with Buhari is becoming nauseating. Buhari the last I checked is the opposition candidate, and it's usually the norm that the elections are always about the sitting candidate, his positives, what good he has done and why he should be given another chance and not everyday blabbing about Buhari, or is it so bad that you have nothing good to sell your candidate with? rather you make everyday of your life about Buhari this, Buhari that? get a grip dude. You talk of voting bloc being hustlers, traders and so called illiterates, aren't these the same set of people PEJ alluded to when she said "our people no dey born shildren troway"? or are almajiris not the hustlers and illiterates up north?

Now to the matter, in 2007 no other person than Yar'Adua himself proclaimed that the election that brought him to power was flawed. How can pre-polls now match with an election that is flawed? In 2011, bayelsa recorded votes higher than the registered voters in the state and the rest of the SS & SE churned in votes that beats all scientific logic, how can such an election have a semblance of touch with the pre-polls? The reason pre-polls don't align with actual elections is rigging, and that is why the unfavoured party at the pre-polls is all arms against the use of card readers and PVC, a system they have no rigging experience in.

Those running the affairs of the PDP have recognised that the dynamics of 2011 have changed drastically in 2015, the PDP chairman even said a win by them wouldn't be by a large margin, it is only arm chair/online PDP analyst that keep deceiving themselves that as it occurred yesterday, so will it occur today. In 2015, how many cpc governors did Buhari have? how many cpc senators did he have? how many cpc rep members and assembly members did he have? how many cpc sitting political office holders did he have seeking re-election? what was his political structures in the southern states? yet he managed to pull in 12million votes. Today, Buhari has sitting and ex-governors on his side, he has lots of sitting political office holders on his side with a majority going for re-election, he has rep members and assembly men who are closer to the grass roots and who are also running for office with him. He has taken advantage of the political structures provided by these politicians who have teamed up with him and Change is now being shouted in the thick of villages.

Unless you live in denial, you will realise that the dynamics have also changed negatively for the PDP. The sympathy vote they had 2011 has now turned to resentment, the sense of injustice towards Jonathan in 2011 has now turned to a sense of failure. In 2011, Jonathan was untested hence the vigour, in 2015 he has been tested and whether you like it or not, the verdict of a huge part of the population is that he is incapable. Whereas Buhari has gained in human and structural(political) resources, Jonathan has lost same. Whereas Buhari has had the toga of being one sided per religion and ethnicity diffused, Jonathan has picked up that toga. Whereas encouragement of violence towards election attributed to Buhari 2011 has been diffused, Jonathan has picked up that toga.

March 28 is not far again.

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Politics / Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 3:58pm On Mar 19, 2015
PapaBrowne:


Interesting assumptions. Wish you understood the dynamics. If Benue is dissatisfied with GEJ, what you would see is low turnout and not support for GMB. At the core of voting decisions in the middle belt is not so much Boko haram as it is Fulani herdsmen. Benueans are farmers and have been getting the beating from Fulani herdsmen. Voting a Fulani is the last thing on the Benue farmer's mind. Now that's in the rural areas.
In the cities its a different ball game. And most of the chatter you get is from the cities. However, majority of votes come from rural areas.
Akume, Ortom and Gemade would have an impact, but that's why you see the 25% allocation for Benue.

I think it is you who has misunderstood the dynamics, it is actually the rural farmers that have formed the core of opposition against Goodluck/Suswam, to them there's the mentality that Buhari as a former military man is more kitted to tackle the security challenges facing them. It is in the rural areas that there's the feeling of abandonment by Suswam/Jonathan and it is this feeling that has given birth to resentment. Go to Benue, Suswam is called 'or gyo' (the pig man), suswine etc in the rural areas. When you talk of grass roots politicians in Benue you talk of Akume & Ortom. In 2011, Akume single handedly created a viable opposition in Benue, today he has Gemade & Ortom with him. In the cities, the PDP will have a hard time, that's where you find the middle class who have been directly affected by non salary payment, that's where you find the young hustlers who have not been favourably treated. And mind you, APC has taken full advantage of this, you need to visit Benue (both rural & urban) and sample the opinion of the people you meet, you will be shocked!!

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Politics / Re: Survey Tips Buhari To Win March 28 Election- The Sun Newspapers by DRANOEL(m): 11:10am On Mar 19, 2015
OP let me help you with the survey sheet

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Politics / Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 10:53am On Mar 19, 2015
Obiagelli:

You seem to forget that senatorial elections holds on the same day as the presidential election. Akume and gemade i believe are both running for Senate.

infact the senatorial elections running on the same day makes it more interesting, Akume is standing against a weak candidate, while Gemade is standing against Suswam (who is even considered a liability to Jonathan and the governorship candidate)
Politics / Re: El Rufai To Buhari: You Are Old, Expired And Perpetually Unelectable(2010) by DRANOEL(m): 10:48am On Mar 19, 2015
Neyoor:
Barcanista 2014

"I have taken my time to monitor trends both online and
offline, I observed that team Buhari supporters are
legitimate supporters that are driven by patriotism and the
need for change, while Jonathanians are majorly driven by
tribalism, religious sentiment/extremism, sycophancy,
illiteracy or ignorance- either in part or in whole."




Which category can we place barcanista?

grin grin grin grin grin grin sycophancy, illiteracy or ignorance grin grin grin

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Politics / Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 10:34am On Mar 19, 2015
PapaBrowne:


No sir, elections don't work straight up like that. Benue and Nassarawa are PDP fair and square. Osun state hasn't paid salaries but that wouldn't mean PDP would trump APC there. For Akume, Gemade and Ortom, thier impact would be felt, but not so much as to improve radically to meet your 65% for APC postulations---impossible. Even core northern states like Gombe would probably superceed that postulation.

the big six local governments in Benue are Gboko, Makurdi, Katsina Ala, Vandeikya, Kwande, Oturkpo;

Gboko - Akume's stronghold

Makurdi - within Akume's zone, within Ortom's zone ACN won Makurdi by a small margin the last time, now ortom is onboard

Katsina Ala - 50 - 50

Vandeikya - Gemade's territory, note that the last election, Vandeikya was split between Gemade's and Hembe's influence. Both took 50/50, now they are both on the same side

Kwande - has always voted opposition

Oturkpo - David Mark's stronghold, definitely PDP

also note that breaking it down to senatorial districts, most of Jonathan's key men are from the same zone (zone c) where Mark & Morro hail from, Zone C is the smallest population wise amongst the 3 zones. For the other zones things have changed, in 2011 you had Ortom and Gemade pulling weight for Jonathan in zones A & B now you have them gone. Jonathan's men in the two zones are at best paper weights especially zone B where Iorchia Ayu a failed politician is being paraded as leader.

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Politics / Re: El Rufai To Buhari: You Are Old, Expired And Perpetually Unelectable(2010) by DRANOEL(m): 10:12am On Mar 19, 2015
barcanista:
How many more Buhari thread will JonaTANians create? When will sanity revisit these children of sorrow from the Jonathan camp?

barcanista 24 dec 2014

barcanista:
SUMMARY:
Jonathan is an undisputed failure, but "BLAME" others before him.

Jonathanians never cease to amaze me with their low reasoning.

barcanista 1 dec 2014

barcanista:
I have taken my time to monitor trends both online and offline, I observed that team Buhari supporters are legitimate supporters that are driven by patriotism and the need for change, while Jonathanians are majorly driven by tribalism, religious sentiment/extremism, sycophancy, illiteracy or ignorance- either in part or in whole.

barcanista 23 nov 2014

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Politics / Re: Permutation Of The 2015 Presidential Elections: A Realistic Statistical Analysis by DRANOEL(m): 8:18am On Mar 19, 2015
PapaBrowne:

NORTH CENTRAL
States-------------PVC Collected--------GEJ--%----Num---------------------GMB--%-----Num
Benue--------------------1.6 m-------------------75----1.2m-----------------------------25-----0.4m
FCT-----------------------0.6 m-------------------50----0.3m-----------------------------50-----0.3m
Kogi----------------------0.9 m-------------------60----0.5m-----------------------------40-----0.4m
Kwara--------------------0.9 m-------------------40----0.5m-----------------------------60-----0.4m
Nassarawa---------------1.0 m-------------------60----0.4m-----------------------------40-----0.6m
Niger---------------------1.7 m-------------------30----0.5m-----------------------------70-----1.1m
Plateau-------------------1.5 m-------------------75----1.1m-----------------------------25-----0.4m

______________________________Total GEJ=====4.6m___________Total GMB======3.6m


you might want to change what you postulate on Benue & Nassarawa, the dynamics have changed in those places especially Benue where APC have swelled their ranks with political heavy weights, also the general feeling/action of insecurity and non payment of workers salary doesn't put PDP on the choice list. Even PDP supporters in Benue say they will vote differently in the presidential, besides those in the villages now have an anthem 'se soo or Ijaw la ga, a wase ga' meaning 'we don't want the Ijaw man, he has done nothing', in Benue its 65% - 35% in favour of GMB. For Nassarawa, its 60% - 40% in favour of GMB

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Politics / Nigerian Elections: What If Buhari Wins? - Nigerian's Opinion On UK Guardian by DRANOEL(m): 11:53am On Mar 11, 2015
With only two weeks to go until the most closely contested presidential election in Nigeria’s history, the biggest issue on the agenda is security. From Boko Haram to the instability of the oil-producing Niger Delta, the political fight between incumbent President Goodluck Jonathan and the lead opposition candidate, Major-General Muhammadu Buhari, revolves around who will ensure peace and stability.

Buhari is relying on his credentials as a retired general and former military ruler to convince the electorate that he is the man to end the violent Boko Haram insurgency that has killed more than 10,000 Nigerians and displaced 1.5 million others.

But what would Nigeria be like under a Buhari presidency? He has vowed to take the fight to Boko Haram, crush the sect, and “lead from the front”. Expectations of the stern and resolute general are sky high – many think he is tailor made to end Nigeria’s insecurity, but is he the reformed democrat he claims to be?

Senior security figures have repeatedly stated that there is no military solution to the insurgency, and that the government must address the socio-economic causes of Boko Haram. Nigeria’s former chief of defence staff General Martin Luther Agwai has said: “You can never solve any of these problems with military solutions … it is a political issue; it is a social issue; it is an economic issue, and until these issues are addressed, the military can never give you a solution.”

Buhari has dealt with insecurity in Nigeria before. In 1983 he led an army unit that drove out Chadian rebels who had made incursions over the north-eastern Nigerian border. In an ironic reversal of fortunes, the Chadian army is now helping Nigeria to fight Boko Haram insurgents in the same corner of Nigeria. In response, Buhari has called the current Nigerian government’s reliance on assistance from a much poorer country like Chad a “big disgrace”.

The current government’s security forces have made tentative steps in the direction of a “soft approach to countering terrorism”. The national security adviser Lt Colonel Sambo Dasuki appointed Dr Fatima Akilu, a psychologist, to work as the director of behavioural analysis and strategic communication in his office. Last year it was announced that Akilu had designed a programme for de-radicalising and rehabilitating militants, and a communication strategy to counter Boko Haram’s narrative. However initiatives such as this will take years or decades to have effect, and the Nigerian public is not patient enough for incremental progress.


The rhetoric of Buhari’s campaign suggests that the defence policy is likely to change greatly if he were to win the election. His tough-talking promises to confront Boko Haram resonate with the Nigerian public. He has said he “will not tolerate insurgency, sabotage of the economy” and, in reference to the instability in the Niger Delta, the “the blowing up of installations, by stealing crude and so on ... All these things will be things of the past.”

If Buhari comes to power Dasuki and his colleague Lt General Aliyu Mohammed, the minister of defence, are likely to find themselves unemployed. Both men were key figures in the military palace coup that overthrew Buhari in 1985 (when Dasuki was a young army officer and Mohammed was the head of military intelligence).

There are questions over a military approach, too. So far, when the military has hit Boko Haram hard the group has escalated its violence and taken indirect revenge against civilians. Even if Buhari does end the Boko Haram insurgency, the conspiracy theorists among his opponents will likely use that against him to buttress their narrative that the insurgency led by northern Islamic insurgents was a political ploy to destabilise the southern Christian President Goodluck Jonathan.

Boko Haram is not the only security menace threatening Nigeria. In 2009, after years of disrupting Nigeria’s oil production, exports and installations, more than 25,000 militants who waged an armed insurgency in the oil-producing Niger Delta areas of southern Nigeria to protest against economic exploitation agreed to lay down their weapons. In exchange for peace, the government promised to grant them amnesty, cash stipends, and training.

The elephant in the Nigerian room is that the government’s amnesty deal with the Niger Delta militants expires later this year, and the militants have threatened to take up arms again if Jonathan is not re-elected. Many militants see Jonathan – who comes from Bayelsa State, the heartland of Nigeria’s oil producing region – as one of their own.

Eighty percent of the Nigerian government’s income comes from oil exports, so the Niger Delta insurgency carries much more severe economic consequences than the Boko Haram in the north. Worryingly, four states in the Delta (Akwa Ibom, Bayelsa, Delta, and Rivers States) alone produce 80% of Nigeria’s oil (out of a total of 36 states in Nigeria).

Although Buhari has said very little about the Niger Delta during his election campaign, the militants have reason for discomfort if Buhari becomes president. Militant leaders have become very rich from government patronage and contracts. Many ex-militants have been awarded security contracts to guard the oil installations they once protested against and attacked. Buhari – a man with a reputation for austerity and a no-nonsense approach to hard graft – is not the type of person to pay people money to not be violent.

In addition Nigeria’s ethnic, geographic, and religious differences can prove explosive, and it’s unlikely that Buhari – a Muslim from northern Nigeria – will treat the southern Christian Niger Delta militants differently to the Islamic Boko Haram , who this week declared their allegiance to Isis. Buhari simply won’t be able to hit one group of insurgents with an iron fist while negotiating with the other. But, if he stops the Niger Delta militants’ payments, then the country could face the daunting prospect of simultaneous insurgencies in both the north and south.

Those who have worked with Buhari describe him as “strong willed” and “completely inflexible”; suggesting that his resolute and unyielding temperament means he will stick to his words and will try to force a result with insurgents on the battlefield, rather than in the negotiating room.

If he becomes president after the vote, postponed until the 28th of March, Buhari will face the unenviable task of inheriting a nightmarish security landscape. But Nigeria’s problems are so deep and complex that they are likely to outlast Jonathan, however long he hopes to cling to power, and Buhari too if he is sucessful.

Max Siollun is a Nigerian historian, writer, and author of the books Oil, Politics and Violence: Nigeria’s Military Coup Culture 1966-1976 and Soldiers of Fortune: a History of Nigeria (1983-1993). Follow him on Twitter @maxsiollun

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/11/nigerian-elections-what-if-general-buhari-wins
Politics / Re: Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 11:49am On Mar 11, 2015
PassingShot:
OP, the most inciting and implicating of her speeches is not here:

if anybody tell you change, stone them.


Fayose's advert, in my opinion also qualifies for act of provoking genocide.

read the OP again, it is there
Politics / Re: Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 11:19am On Mar 11, 2015
Simone Gbagbo who never sought to deny exercising political influence after her husband rose to power in 2000 elections in which former prime minister Ouattara was barred from standing on the grounds he was a foreigner was sentenced earlier in the week for charges similar to what PEJ is doing, She had also exhibited similar character with that of Mrs Jonathan, below is what she said in 2001;

"All the ministers respect me, and they often consider me above them. I've got what it takes to be a minister," she told the French newsweekly l'Express in 2001, justifying her stance after a life she said had been dedicated to activism.

"I engaged in political struggle against the former regime alongside men. I spent six months in prison, I was beaten, molested, left for dead. After all those trials, it's logical that people don't mess with me."


I only hope mama peace is taking notes
Politics / Re: Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 10:54am On Mar 11, 2015
here is a link to an opinion by Odimegwu Onwumere on why hate speech should scare us. published by daily trust 29/1/2015

http://dailytrust.com.ng/daily/opinion/45589-why-hate-speech-should-scare-us
Politics / Re: Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 10:48am On Mar 11, 2015
OrlandoOwoh:
Have you noticed that Patience Jonathan has become well-behaved ever since the APC threatened to take her to the ICC and the wife of Gbagbo sentenced?

They now know the implications of her statements, notice also the statement released by her press office was careful not to talk about the issues. They are silently wishing that the whole episode is quietly forgotten and swept under the carpet. Nigerians should remember that the first lady made the below statement;

“Our people no dey born shildren wey dem no dey fit count. Our men no dey born shildren throway for street. We no dey like the people for that side"

which Genocide Watch regards as 'CLASSIFICATION' which is one of the the steps that lead to genocide.

PEJ went ahead and asked supporters in public (which was carried on youtube, Nigerian newspapers etc) to stone the opposition shouting change which is classified as hate speech/incitement to genocide

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Politics / Re: Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 10:19am On Mar 11, 2015
DEFINING A CRIME

The term “genocide” had been coined in 1944 by Raphael Lemkin, a Polish-Jewish lawyer who had fled to the United States. After the war, Lemkin and others lobbied at early sessions of the United Nations for the crime of genocide to become part of the emerging field of international law. On December 9, 1948, the United Nations General Assembly adopted the “Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide” (commonly referred to as the Genocide Convention). Building on the intellectual and legal foundation laid by the IMT in the Streicher decision, Article III (c) of the Genocide Convention declares that “direct and public incitement to commit genocide” is a crime.

Generally speaking, “incitement” means encouraging or persuading another to commit an offense by way of communication, for example by employing broadcasts, publications, drawings, images, or speeches. It is “public” under international law if it is communicated to a number of individuals in a public place or to members of a population at large by such means as the mass media. Among other things, its "public" nature distinguishes it from an act of private incitement (which could be punishable under the Genocide Convention as “complicity in genocide” or possibly not punishable at all). Incitement to genocide must also be proven to be “direct,” meaning that both the speaker and the listener understand the speech to be a call to action. Prosecutors have found it challenging to prove what “direct” may mean in different cultures, as well as its meaning to a given speaker. Moreover, public incitement to genocide can be prosecuted even if genocide is never perpetrated. Lawyers therefore classify the infraction an “inchoate crime”: a proof of result is not necessary for the crime to have been committed, only that it had the potential to spur genocidal violence. It is intent of the speaker that matters, not the effectiveness of the speech in causing criminal action. This distinction helps to make the law preventative, rather than reactive.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007839

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Politics / Re: Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 5:53pm On Mar 10, 2015
chukwudi44:
'Dogs and baboons will be soaked with blood"
~Buhari

does that fall under the category of like speeches?

no sir, it doesn't. who is being hated on? the dogs or the baboons?



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Politics / Pej's Speeches and what the UN & Genocide Watch call 'incitement to Genocide' by DRANOEL(m): 5:47pm On Mar 10, 2015
DRANOEL:
DEFINING A CRIME

The term “genocide” had been coined in 1944 by Raphael Lemkin, a Polish-Jewish lawyer who had fled to the United States. After the war, Lemkin and others lobbied at early sessions of the United Nations for the crime of genocide to become part of the emerging field of international law. On December 9, 1948, the United Nations General Assembly adopted the “Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide” (commonly referred to as the Genocide Convention). Building on the intellectual and legal foundation laid by the IMT in the Streicher decision, Article III (c) of the Genocide Convention declares that “direct and public incitement to commit genocide” is a crime.

Generally speaking, “incitement” means encouraging or persuading another to commit an offense by way of communication, for example by employing broadcasts, publications, drawings, images, or speeches. It is “public” under international law if it is communicated to a number of individuals in a public place or to members of a population at large by such means as the mass media. Among other things, its "public" nature distinguishes it from an act of private incitement (which could be punishable under the Genocide Convention as “complicity in genocide” or possibly not punishable at all). Incitement to genocide must also be proven to be “direct,” meaning that both the speaker and the listener understand the speech to be a call to action. Prosecutors have found it challenging to prove what “direct” may mean in different cultures, as well as its meaning to a given speaker. Moreover, public incitement to genocide can be prosecuted even if genocide is never perpetrated. Lawyers therefore classify the infraction an “inchoate crime”: a proof of result is not necessary for the crime to have been committed, only that it had the potential to spur genocidal violence. It is intent of the speaker that matters, not the effectiveness of the speech in causing criminal action. This distinction helps to make the law preventative, rather than reactive.
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007839

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Inflammatory speech often precedes mass atrocities, especially genocide. As such, it is part of the social process that makes genocide possible, as demonstrated by Radio RTLM in the Rwanda genocide. Since then, courts have acknowledged the link between speech and genocide by trying the world’s first incitement to genocide cases.

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/4093416?sid=21105599628431&uid=2&uid=4&uid=3738720&uid=70&uid=2129
http://www.un.org/en/preventgenocide/adviser/projects.shtml

"PEJ requested supporters to stone opponents in Calabar"


Also, Genocide watch has listed the 8 stages of genocide, they state as follows;

Genocide is a process that develops in eight stages that are predictable but not inexorable. At each stage, preventive measures can stop it. The process is not linear. Logically, later stages must be preceded by earlier stages. But all stages continue to operate throughout the process.

the eight stages are: Classification, Symbolization, Dehumanization, Organization, Polarization, Preparation, Extermination & Denial

CLASSIFICATION: All cultures have categories to distinguish people into “us and them” by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: German and Jew, Hutu and Tutsi
http://www.genocidewatch.org/aboutgenocide/8stagesofgenocide.html

Patience Jonathan made this statement;

“Our people no dey born shildren wey dem no dey fit count. Our men no dey born shildren throway for street. We no dey like the people for that side"


2015 or no 2015, this woman must be made to face justice.

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Politics / Re: Pictures Of Children With PVC In The North Registered By INEC by DRANOEL(m): 11:45am On Mar 10, 2015
feldido:


Get me right, I never mentioned any political party... I only shared what I saw online just to show how biased an umpire of an election will allow under age to register.

now that it has been pointed out to you, and truly if you are not being mischievous, can you now change the topic to 'Underaged voters voting in the presence of a PDP agent in 2011'? or is this just your propaganda?

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Politics / Re: Pictures Of Children With PVC In The North Registered By INEC by DRANOEL(m): 11:19am On Mar 10, 2015
feldido:
Saw this on Facebook, if it's true then INEC is really biased.

I agree, INEC is truly biased;

All I see is an underaged voter, PDP and INEC
www.nairaland.com/attachments/1905370_pdp2_jpegacd81108ba07a4c8608a8f950d73df8e

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Politics / Re: Chad And Niger Armies Take Two Nigerian Towns From Boko Haram - AL Jazeera by DRANOEL(m): 9:18am On Mar 10, 2015
temitemi1:
Thank YOU! Is that all

no it's not all, you for got to add GEJ till 2022 you TANOID robot
Politics / Chad And Niger Armies Take Two Nigerian Towns From Boko Haram - AL Jazeera by DRANOEL(m): 9:08am On Mar 10, 2015
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/03/chad-niger-armies-retake-towns-boko-haram-150309134351274.html

Troops from Chad and Niger have taken two northeastern Nigerian towns after bloody fighting that has left some 200 Boko Haram fighters dead, a Chadian security source has said.

Boko Haram had held the towns of Malam Fatouri and Damasak near the Niger border since November. Ten Chadian soldiers were killed in the offensive that began on Sunday, the source told AFP news agency on Monday.

About 30 Nigerian and Chadian soldiers were wounded in the clashes, a day after thousands of troops crossed the border to take areas held by the armed group, whose insurgency has prompted neighbours to mobilise their armies.

A medical source in Diffa, the capital of the Niger region which borders Boko Haram's heartland in Nigeria's northeast, said 30 wounded soldiers had been admitted to the town's hospital.

"We have kicked the enemy out of these areas and they are now under our control," one of the Niger military sources told Reuters news agency.

Damasak, the town furthest into Nigeria, is 10km south of the Niger border, where Niger and Chadian troops have been massing in recent weeks ahead of the military operation.

The offensive marks Niger's first major push into Nigerian territory to combat the armed group, which in recent months has engaged in cross-border attacks. Niger had until now only defended itself against incursions in border areas.

Chad, backed by its air force, has already sent troops many kilometres inside northeastern Nigeria winning back areas from the group near the Cameroon border.

The latest assault comes after the African Union on Friday endorsed the creation of a regional force of up to 10,000 men to join the fight against the group which on Saturday pledged allegiance to the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

Expand its area

Boko Haram has been fighting a nearly six-year insurgency against the Nigerian government, with the aim to establish an Islamic state in the predominantly Muslim north.

"For Chad, Niger and Cameroon, defeating Boko Haram is crucial. Five years of violence has cut of much of the trade between them and Africa's biggest economy, Nigeria," Al Jazeera's Ahmed Idris, reporting from Abuja, said.

"There is also the fear that the group, if left unchecked, will expand its area of control and become a bigger threat for the entire region."

The latest regional intervention comes amid spike in attacks by the group that has left hundreds of civilians dead in the past several weeks.

On Saturday, at least 51 people were killed and more than 100 injured in three bombings at markets and a bus station in the northeastern Nigerian town of Maiduguri.

The group has also carried out mass kidnappings, including more than 200 schoolgirls.

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