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RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 1:44am On Jan 08, 2011
tundenaija:
how can you propose 3 weeks after you met a girl na wah for you oh, anyway it works for some people but you cant just ,
lol, na serious wah for me i accept but Tunde, there are people you meet and it feels like you've known for ages.

That was the case here brov smiley
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 12:21am On Jan 08, 2011
helovesme:
YOU HAVE SAID IT ALL.

He is with her because he wanted to get his stay in the UK.

And the girl knows it. Reason why she is treating him like a puppet.

How else can one explain all the poo the poster took from her in the name of ''LOVE''

Love ko, Lion ni,
hahahahahahahahahhaha.

For crying out loud,this is so simple and straightforward,if i want the permanent permit which i know is possible through her,y quit?I can as well allow her slap me 1000times a day sef. mshew,stay ko,go ni grin

Na stay go put money for my account abi na stay go fly me go miami where boys at home go without thinking twice, All na dulling jo,i fit into my country's economy so no point dulling myself about gttn some paper, pple wey get paper sef dey run go house, lol
You really need to ask me that question a million times but my answer will be ''I do not know''.

Maybe thats a weakness, i dont just go into relationships but when i do,i rarely see anything like something that has never happened.I try my best to give alot of chance for corrections.Thats my nature but when it gets to a point,i revolt without looking back and that is what i have just done.
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 12:05am On Jan 08, 2011
persist:
huh I don't think it was wrong stopping the relationship in fact you did the right thing but Mr poster correct me if I am wrong you had a motive of living off her in the first place and also saw it as an oppurtunity to stay back in the UK as your visa was running out because why on earth will you marry on a relationship of 1 month plus and forgive the lady so much.

grin Just believe I know you can do make a better life in nigeria.
It wasnt in 1month my dear friend.

Engagement took 3months plus if u care to read my lines.

Marriage was clocking 5months and i cancelled it myself. cuz i wanted everything sorted before we proceed.

At the moment,our notice of intention to marry is still valid and it runs for a year.If i am so desperate (what for anyway),i will completely ignore her awkwardness and get along.

I wanted marriage but not desperately.I was just simply being humble,trying not to give a sense of taking her for granted cus of her age.I love giving 2nd,third or even 4th chance on issues cuz nobody is perfect. People meet (alot infact) and get married within 3months without any problem.They even go on to live happily ever after so its not a strange thing abeg.

Why not ask the reason God brought us together when he knew i had made up my mind to go back and she wants to settle down ASAP? Things happen for a reason.I just thought maybe God wants us to meet n marry before i go back to save me the stress at home.Seriously
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 11:56pm On Jan 07, 2011
persist:
huh I don't think it was wrong stopping the relationship in fact you did the right thing but Mr poster correct me if I am wrong you had a motive of living off her in the first place and also saw it as an oppurtunity to stay back in the UK  as your visa was running out because why on earth will you marry on a relationship of 1 month plus  and forgive the lady so much.

grin Just believe I know you can  do make a better life in nigeria.
Persist,plainly looking at it from that point,you are correct but in this case,there is absolutely no reason,not an inch to suggest such.

Notice i replied one of the members we met on facebook,at that point i dint even know she works.What we were talking about was life in Nigeria cuz she asked of my plans and i made it clear.She even said something like the money people in Nigeria spends can only be imagined by nigerians in uk.She went further by saying she will relocate anyday if she is lucky to have a hubby with a good job which she knows i am capable of.That gave me an indication we were on the same page.TRUST ME.JEHOVAH IS MY WITNESS.

When we were goin for lunch,i asked if she drives cus i'll luv my woman to drive herself wen i am away n she needs d car,she smiled and said she has got a 10yr old golf(that is not an indication of someone u can live on).My own car is a Mazda6 03 reg.It was at Nandos when i wanted to pay she brought out some points card and i saw medical whatever on it,i asked where she got it from and she said she is a doctor.

Also,i have my own 1bed flat,she lives with her uncle for woteva reason known to her.Although my discipline is International finance,the drug & alcohol abuse agency i work with pays well.I work self employed so all the money goes to my business account.If we go to 100shops in a day(just an example),its my card i swipe.No reason to live off her.Her mum n dad lives in a council flat separately and they depend on her especially d mother so nothing exceptionally impressive.

It was just a case of ''who knows whether she might be the right girl considering her age''.I thot maturity would help.im 32 for chrissake,she is 32,if a woman wants u,its only appropriate to give it a trial.All along,i still stuck of my relocation plans,they were the ones persuading me.TRUST ME.

She knew bout my visa even before we met cuz i made sure i told her the very first time we spoke on fone.I told her of my plans too on fone ever before we met as i said earlier.

What i can conclude from your argument is maybe she got it all wrong.Maybe she felt i wasnt really serious about my plans but why wont i anyway? This is my career,my future,i am guaranteed to get to the peak in Nigeria.No controversy so wots dere to live on in her life?.U need to see my earlier post to know my qualifications.I dey very alrite.

Where is the job in UK that i will kill myself here.I chose to relocate not because i am not able to change my category but because i just dont want to earn money,i want to practise my profession and progress with time.Im loosing some valuable work experience n wit time,i wont be able to fit in.With what i get ,i can easily get an accountant to do my documents and highly skilled visa is guaranteed but i cant stand the changing of there rules all the time.I am presently on a residence permit but its temporal not student.

I have friends who come to jand 3 - 4 times in a year.They at-times fly to yankee wit naija passport from uk.There passport full with different visas.They are professionals like me.If i have my job at home,HR will get me intro letter plus my bank statement,any flipping embassy will open there door.I know what i want man.We do not need to deceive ourselves,i cant be bothered wit the P.

This is simply a case of ''I thought she was gonna be good,we will be able to flow on d same level and stuff but i got it wrong''.
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 9:35pm On Jan 07, 2011
Hamid O:
You think your skills failed you right, na the same skill way make you wake up to know say no road for there o.LOL
Just thank God you didn't take the big step, seems more like bondage in the making.
e b like say u yarn correct o, still got to trust my instincts, thot i was just being too tough, laughs
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 9:33pm On Jan 07, 2011
Hamid O:
You think your skills failed you right, na the same skill way make you wake up to know say no road for there o.LOL
Just thank God you didn't take the big step, seems more like bondage in the making.
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e b like say u yarn correct o, laughs
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 9:32pm On Jan 07, 2011
mikkyphp:
LOL, this reminds me of the thread also on the front page where the OP came to 9ja to get a wife and he's now lamenting that she's this n that. Please tell me where dremoney will go to find a wife if he can't get in UK,America or even Nigeria,
I never bothered to date before leaving Nigeria cuz i knew i was coming for my masters, lol
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 8:02pm On Jan 07, 2011
Hamid O:
With her parents living there, do you think she'll ever relocate to Nigeria with you assuming you guyz are together?? Don't forget there'll be kids in the equation then. By the the way, you don't seem desperate for marriage now, you have your plans well spelt out which I like so much. I think you should stick to your initial plans while looking for a more reasonable lady.
Again,you are correct but i pointed out this issue.

All she said and assured me of was she is willing and ready to move back with me.

She actually does not fancy the cold and boredom here so that convinced me until she changed everything mid-way.I just cant get my head round all this.

Always thought im a smart dude but on this one,my skill failed me.
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 7:50pm On Jan 07, 2011
denzel2009:
Please can you use your good office to tell me the internet site you met her. How to shine a Doctor's kongo in 3 days
I was doing some random search on a friend on facebook and she came up as suggetsions cuz of the name.

Added as a friend and the rest you know cheesy huh
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 7:32pm On Jan 07, 2011
otokx:
Both of them are guilty
sooo true.

My guilt is rushing into everything and expecting her age will make her more attractive for marriage.
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 7:27pm On Jan 07, 2011
Hamid O:
I have a feeling you'll still go back cos you've done so several times. For me I'll act as if I never met such a person my whole life, anyone that doesn't encourage you to help your family before marriage will do everything to stop you when you eventually get married. Ideally I think she needs you more cos of her age but i really agree with you that she is very bad in managing relationships. What were you thinking allowing her parents settle your fights? Her parents are third parties which any relationship shouldn't allow, not even your own parent should have a say. Run for your life bro,  I just hope you won't go back to that lady cos i think you will.
Laughs,you are absolutely correct.

I couldnt help with her parents interference from the beginning cuz i was tryna be sure of the true situation.

When i then got to realise her mother wanted to be an emperor like,u guyz must let me know whatever issue you have got,i tried to give a gap and wahala started.

Bout the issue of going back,i think if i dont love the girl,i wouldnt have gone as far as i went cuz i totally forgot every oda plan i had except the issue of relocation.I made it clear we have to relocate soonest cuz i sooooo much believe in Nigeria no matter the situation.

Going back? even if i would have wanted to give her a chance,with the different comments on the thread,i will never go back.Trust me.

Its not about the support or encouragement but the objective arguments being made bout the issue.

Thanks alot everyone
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 7:18pm On Jan 07, 2011
ceej:
My brother it is not working. Most  Nigerian girls are like that.Especially this one from a broken home.She cant give what she does not have. She will divorce u some day.Love is not-material.Since she works and even earn better she can foot the bills knowing fully well that someday you will earn good too and carry the responsibilities.
Thank you.

The point even is i am still gonna be the higher spender in footing the bills which is absolutely fine with me but what crossed my mind was,will i ever be able to save with this kind of woman in my house?

When i bought the taxi,she didnt ask if she can give me more money to buy anoda car and expand for the family sake.What she asked was how i can help her get a taxi too.I gave her a strange look and was like excuse me,we are not competing here.
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 7:12pm On Jan 07, 2011
triistar86:
At times I wonder why people create threadshuh? I think some people just do so to increase their number of posts on nairaland or jst for boredom. Some questions should never even be asked for crying out loud. If all you said is through please kindly help me tell your ex-fiancée to go hump herself wink

And my guy I hope say you shine that congo very very well before you left her considering all you have spent cos if not you mess up big time grin
Thanks

If you go through my profile and check my comment on threads,its actually been sometime i came on nairaland,only recently i started visiting.

I am just baffled,thats all.

Just wanted to be sure i was right cuz getting engaged is serious to me and the first time in my life.
RomanceRe: Am I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 7:05pm On Jan 07, 2011
Basildon1:
U did the right thing definitely but i think she's got a british passport and you wanted her just for papers, she wanted you for marriage and she was ready to squeeze you dry cos she felt you were more desperate. It is obvious you guys dont love each other and your story is too one sided. U have filtered down the whole thing for us!

I'm glad that you have come back to your senses and realised that a life of slavery to another woman is not worth it just to stay in the UK. Why else would you have proposed in 3 weeks? Love? Ha!
Your observation would have been correct from the point of one-sided story, desperation to stay to have a passport and proposing in 3wks generically but in this case,how i got into all this,i do not know.

I have a first degree in Accounting
second degree in International finance and banking
Presently part-qualified as an Investment & financial adviser (ifs school of finance level 4 qualification regulated by the FSA).
I have worked in Nigeria before relocating in 2007.
I do not give a hoot about the british passport cus my career progression is guaranteed in Nigeria.Only for me to land a job.
The plan was for us to be here for sometime and relocate cuz i made it clear i cant stand this country for too long.

About the proposal,she is 32 and kept drumming it to my ears she's scared n will only b confident wen she has got my ring on her fingers from d beginning so i thot that wuold be nice.

About the story,its actually like a home video(a mate said that) but trust me,its undiluted. Exactly the way things happened but rmba everybody will always have reasons for their action so her story might be different but my line is the basis of woteva hppned.

About the passport,I SWEAR DOWN,wouldnt have stayed too long before relocating anyway because i believe more opportunities are at home for me no matter the situation.Nigeria has always been in recession since independence and pple still breakthrough.My faith is solid on that.

I tried to cancel the engagement but when like 3 older pple come tgeda to persuade you,you wont want to appear arrogant,will you?

Finally,i went ahead with everything thinking,if i have plans to relocate and along the line met a lady who is 32 but looks younger,a professional like me,i am 32 myself,my thinking was mayb God purposely brought us together but the bottom line is i was independent and was still footing the bills,no material consideration involved.

I have had alot of experience with ladies and thot a matured girl like her will appreciate a relationship better.Those were my thinking until i finally realised i may perhaps have been wrong.

She and her uncle's wife with mum were d ones begging me to stay.Infact the professional course i am studying now was advised by her uncle's wife to entice me that opportunities are there for finance professionals.Before then,i sat for a financial risk management exam(FRM) but didnt pass so she encouraged me to go for this.I had to travel down to Nigeria before my mum persuaded me to chill and see what God is doing.

I brought the issue to nairaland cuz i simply cant believe someone sane can be doing all this and her family is blaming me for not been patient enough.

Hope this clears your curiosity.
RomanceAm I Wrong To Stop The Relationship? by dremoney(op): 1:18am On Jan 07, 2011
Hello everyone,this is a story i still cant believe is real. Unfortunately,it happened to me.

I met a lady on the net on wednesday,got talking and by saturday she was at my flat.On the very first day she jumped on my bed and we watched a movie tgeda on my laptop after having lunch at Nandos.She invited me to meet her mum the immediate sunday and we all went to church together.3weeks after,i proposed and she accepted.Her mum got to know and she fixed an appointment to meet her dad cuz they are divorced.2weeks later,i met the dad in a restaurant cuz we couldnt visit his house cuz of the new wife.Her mum proposed a date for traditional engagement on the spot and 2months down the line we got engaged.

Now before the engagement we had issues and i tried to stop the arrangement twice but her parents were always there to settle the rift.The first was about finance.I am a professional with a masters degree,studying for another professional exam.I graduated last year and only got a full time job 11months before i met her.I have been in school before then cuz i relocated basically for my masters.She on the other hand had been working as a doctor even before i came to UK but she lives with her uncle.Nevertheless,i have my flat,my car,plasma,ps3,home cinema and a fully stocked kitchen.I was perfectly ok on my own.I had all i wanted but we lived apart.Because of engagement n pending wedding,we discussed abt living tgeda,she and her family agreed i make the move to where she is cuz hers is a professional job.

A professional job but i foot all the bills with my drug and alcohol abuse job.I never asked her for anything,but then she wanted me to be paying rent on both sides cuz im the man.She wanted me to pay a higher % of d rent on her side n fully mine where my job is.I objected,took her to her mother n told them to stop d engagement that my life is in danger.I saw that as cruel and wicked.We then went to the issue of funding reception.she wanted me to foot all the bills too forgetting i wasnt prepared for marriage,she was the person who wanted it n bcus i loved her,i tried to make it work.We argued again n tried to end it but her parents pleaded.
The engagement went on and we got to the stage of registry.On d day we were to give a notice of intention,she got there an hour late without a call n dint even pick up wen i called.I waited for her to get dere,showed her to d lady n wanted to leave.She blocked my car,asked y i deared to leave and in-short,created a scene at d local council by shouting n assaulting me.We dint talk for a week until we made up.Two days later,we were on d fone n d line dropped,i called back 3times,she never picked up not knowing her mum had told her i cut the fone and she should not take that from me.We dint talk for two good weeks.In the process,i made up my mind to return home cuz dat was my plan anyway until she tried to convince that i will find a job.Somehow,her dad came in n it was settled but her mum wanted her to end the relationship,she refused though but we couldnt do anytin cuz her mum was upset with her.My visa was running out and i wanted to know what to do cuz i dint want to be caught unawares,packing my things n selling my car need time.

I asked her twice when we are goin further wit the registry but her response has always been NOT SURE.I just ignored her,sent some money home to buy a taxi for survival b4 i get a job and started making plans to return.In the process,my flat was burgled n 42inch plasma was stolen.I moved out d next day n started squatting wit a friend.she said this is a good time to get our apartment, I chose to drop the deposit(which is higher n she drops d first rent).she sparked again n said she should not be involved that i should not have sent any money home.My curiosity then was,i thot we are getting married and you work for chrissake.she wont bulge.At the same time,16hrs was cut from my working hours per weekThe next sunday,she made up with her mum and by monday,she called me and said she thinks the best thing is for me to go home.I said thank you cuz her excuse was we dint have enough money so no need to rush.By wednesday,i got a 50inch plasma n put my car up on ebay,called home to inquire about properties.she got to know n sparked again saying i had palns to leave before.I then seriously scolded her and told her bluntly that she is pathetic at managing relationships.I have spent alot n she wants me to continue spending.

She has worked longer than me and even earns more than me but she is not willing to support.She wants a clean guy but she wants to kill the clean guy with pressure.she wants me to stay yet she wants me to foot all the bills knowing i am yet to settle fully into the system.After scolding her,she just bought a ticket and went to lagos on the excuse that she is stressed and humiliated.she had been there from 23rd december til now,telling me she cant be bothered again cus i said i was returning to Nigeria.If i have to hussle for some useless office job and spend all my money on the family without savings,i can as well do the hussle in naija,earn less,be the man of the house conviniently and still save.Now i have told her i am off.

Im i wrong pls?
FamilyRe: Am I Doing Wrong By Supporting My Boyfriend Financially? by dremoney(m): 12:43am On Jan 07, 2011
listentome:
Thank you so much everyone for your replies.

I should point it out that my boyfriend works. . . .he is not lazy. . .  just that he does not get regular hours from the company he works for. His job is far from decent. Also, all the time he was studying, he could not work more than 20hours weekly.

I must also say here that my boyfriend is sleek, goodlooking, very humble and you will never imagine for a second imagine that he has little or nothing in his bank account. As a matter of fact, my female friends actually think that he actually takes me shopping on his tab to get some of the nice things in my wardrobe.

I am quite sure that he has little or nothing because a few times we have checked his bank balance together at the cash machine and online and he has little or nothing there. So i am quite sure that he is not lying about his cashless state.

He has never asked me for money. It took a lot of smart probing for him to relax and feel free to open up to me on his financial state. The two occasions i have learnt him money, i was the one that offered to help because i felt the man  i love cannot be in such difficulty while i sit and do nothing. If i had not loaned him the money to sort out his visa issue, he would be preparing to pack his bags to go back to  Nigeria by now. I actually scolded him for not telling me about the problem until very late.

That said, despite the fact that he didnt have much, he got me an expensive and classy gift for christmas that left me dazzled and very impressed. I know he must have really saved for it. However, this is the first and only time that he has gotten me any gift although we do go out to cinemas, pizzas a few times and he picks the tab and at other times i pay for part or the entire bill.

I just felt rather sad yesterday when i saw my account balance in red but i get paid tomorrow and i am back in the green again. Besides, i have never dated any man before that had to rely on me so much and this is a new experience for me and i just wanted to seek people's opinion to what i am doing is okay or wrong or if i should adopt a different approach. undecided
Thanks alot for making a complete fool outta the empty brains on this forum.
maaaaaaan,i quite understand the argument of female members cuz they are typically greedy and self centered but males? I am so disappointed.
Some things were absolutely clear here:
1. The dude just graduated
2. He is yet to get a decent job
3. His work hours are low
4. How r u sure the wage he earns is even enough for his rent?
5. She pointedly made it clear the brov neva asked for anytin,she does things using her church mind
6. she knew all this before accepting him as her b/friend so whats the bitching about?

What then is all the negative comments about. What if they were married and the husband lost his job?
Flipping Hypocrites!!
PoliticsRe: Relocation To Nigeria From The Uk 2011. Am I Mad Or Is It Possible ? by dremoney(m): 6:48pm On Jan 01, 2011
One fundamental truth i have come to realise is the fact that Nigerians abroad will never ever and ever encourage anyone to go back simply because they know & are fully and consiously aware of the fact that you are leaving them for good.Its not all about the light,road and stuff.People still end up being depressed than Nigerians at home.Its not all about money or services.

The poster had humbly analysed how much he earns and save at the end of the end and from what i have seen as alternatives to save more, he has got to live in a box (£280pm),spend less on quality food and stuff.

We all need to be sincere jare,each and everyone should be able to decide where is best. He is obviously living from hand to mouth,saving as much as a bus conductor in lagos. At the end of the day,what counts is your achievement not certificate or work experience or some nonsense skill. If i am an illiterate like a typical Alaba boy and build a solid duplex, whatever the PHd holder beside me does or earns is his flipping business. All the hypocrites in favour of Uk, how many of you can honestly raise your most valuable hand and say you are far better off your friends at the same level and age in Nigeria (Not the ones who stopped education years ago o,colleagues as educated as you with the same experience).

This is all delusion please, UK is finished.Stop deceiving yourselves.The only class of professionals who have a very good reason to forever live here are Healthcare,IT and Investment bankers who are fortunate. Everyone is on credit, living from hand to mouth, saving for months to blow in three weeks in Nigeria. From education to house to car to electronics to phone to furniture are all with credit.

@poster,life is a risk. If you will have to hassle for a job in Uk,get one and cannot boast of a reasonale savings at the end of the day,its no point wasting your time if you have bigger dreams for yourself (some folks are quite comfortable with that actually). Its the same everywhere now,its only God who favours. Better you go back home and let your people see what is left than wasting more time. The thing about Nigeria is not to get the job but once you have it, the rest is history.

Dont listen to hypocrites who have got nowhere to go. It is entirely up to you to make up your mind, shun what people will say and chase your future. Nigeria is bad but people seriously make it big professionally. At the brink of war but its people who will face it. They kill and assault everyday in UK. My house was burgled and 42inch tv stolen.The police came and did nothing. All this is fantansy.If you have a good job,stay back.If you think Nigeria might be better,take the risk.Where is the job in UK anyway? mshew
RomanceRe: Does Long Distance Love Work? by dremoney(m): 5:45pm On Nov 22, 2010
too much hassle and emotional torture.

Not worth it to be honest>>bn dere done dat
PoliticsRe: Atiku "Selected" As Northern Consensus Candidate by dremoney(m): 5:36pm On Nov 22, 2010
They just made the job easier.
Atiku can never ever and ever be Nigeria's president even if its bn sold at oshodi market.He is nothing but a political prostitute,a huge liability.what explanation has he got for the source of his wealth?He's got  a pathetic sense of judgement,no principle,integrity or regard for public opinion.This he-goat is shameless.

jonathan on his part appears like a ''Money miss road''.He has got no clue of wot to do.Even his ministers are as hopeless as their boss.

Buhari carry go!!!
CareerRe: Who Knows Which Banks Are Best To Work In? by dremoney(m): 5:36am On Nov 07, 2010
My Wife works in ETB and this is her 3rd year there. She does not earn up to N3M. So it's either she's lying to me or your assertion is false.
[quote][/quote]To be honest brov,what will you do if by fluke, you realised she'd been coding, laugh wan kill me grin grin grin cheesy cheesy smiley grin grin

GT all the way for mua.
TV/MoviesRe: Your Best 9ja Music Video Director by dremoney(m): 7:34pm On Jul 13, 2010
MeGaStReEt:
Sesan whathuh

If i catch this guy i go slap am for that rubbish video wey e go do for Wande Coal

any music video from this guy is wackkkkkkkkkkkkkk
laugh wan kill me.You are spot on jare

Whoever mentioned ''Sesan'' just comfortably,without an effort infected me with Migraine.

''Se'' what? That idiot? I dont even know what to compare him with,he is such a talentless fool.

I blame Mo-hits for allowing d dude downgrade them anyway so i advise they kip da damn brainless bloke up huh

BTW,Clarence Peter for me anyday!
CareerRe: Salary Structure Of Etisalat, Zain, MTN, Glo? by dremoney(m): 6:31pm On Jul 08, 2010
I dont understand.

why is anyone not talking about what a Masters will attract? why single out an MBA?
Music/RadioRe: Hit Songs With Bad Music Videos by dremoney(m): 5:56pm On Jul 08, 2010
Whoever ''Sesan'' is? I mean the producer of Mo-hit videos.

He eithers needs to be fired ASAP or be locked up in solitary confinement and whiped like a baby.

All D'banj videos except Mobolowo won and Tongolo are pathetic.Terribly poor.

Jeeeeeez,that dude is dumb!
TV/MoviesRe: Television Star Toun Oni Dies by dremoney(m): 5:50pm On Jul 08, 2010
May her soul rest in peace!
PoliticsRe: Aondokaa,barred From Entering The United States by dremoney(m): 7:10pm On Jun 24, 2010
Who are the idiots arguing for this criminal kids to be left alone? huh?

There evil minded Father intentionally set out to destroy the future of generations while having his own b****y girls flaunt fraudulent wealth.

Abeg,anyone not ok with the pictures can jump into the lagoon and pls make sure he/she drowns shocked
PoliticsRe: Are Nigerians Resident In Uk Jealous Of Their Visiting Counterparts ? by dremoney(m): 6:35pm On Jun 16, 2010
dis mumu thread

hisssssssssssssssssssssss, im outta here[i][/i]
PoliticsRe: Are Nigerians Resident In Uk Jealous Of Their Visiting Counterparts ? by dremoney(m): 11:37am On Jun 14, 2010
cheesy dis thread still on? huh
Foreign AffairsRe: Ghana Has One Of The Worst Economies In The World. (forbes List) by dremoney(m): 11:18am On Jun 14, 2010
Gbawe:
Even as I agree with some of what you wrote , the part in bold is , frankly, impossible. No Country in West Africa has the innate potential to become the "economic powerhouse of West Africa" ahead of Nigeria. It is simply not possible because of the huge disparity in human and natural resources between Nigeria and other West African nations. Our population, labour Market (skilled and unskilled) , natural endowment and vast goods/services consumer market (that saw Nigeria become one of the fastest growing telecom market in the world) are serious economic considerations no West African nation has or can gain anytime soon !!!!

In fact if Nigeria continues to be misruled for the next 50 years and other nations , such as Ghana and CIV,  operate at optimum we will still not see any West African nation become an economic regional powerhouse above Nigeria. Other West African nations , and most African nations, simply do not have our diverse range of endowment we are currently seriously under-utilising while the likes of South Africa and Egypt are now essentially as developed as they will possibly ever be !!!!

South Africa cannot suddenly increase its population from 58 million to 120 million overnight and it will struggle to further diversify its already optimally diverse economy. Nigeria on the other hand has an economy that , worldwide, probably has the greatest potentials for diversification with the attendant opportunity for generating the type of new and economically transformational income others can only dream of !!!! It is inept leadership thats has kept Nigeria obtusely focused entirely on oil alone when there are myriads of non-oil potential income generators !!!!

We must operate within the realm of reality and not fantasies bandied about popularly. Do you , for example, know that of the top 50 companies in West Africa (2010) 42 are from Nigeria while 4 are from CIV and 3 from Ghana?

Do you know that many respected non-African (and therefore non-partisan) economic analyst have posited that the Nigerian economy may become the biggest in Africa (toppling South Africa) as early as 2011-2012?

there are too many other indices that show , even with abject mismanagement of its resources, just how economically far ahead Nigeria is in comparison with other West African nations . Suffice to say that if Nigeria , assisted by good leadership, operates optimally for the next 10 years it can become something few nahttp://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Money/Finance/5580349-146/poor_infrastructure_takes_shine_off_cbn.csptions in Africa (and non in West Africa) can become - one of the top 20 economies of the World in the near future.
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Well,we all learn from eachoda brova so pls,believe when i say some of your analysis are dead wrong.You cant possibly say no country can move ahead of Nigeria in West Africa.Nigeria is damned brov,trust me.GDP is arrived at from a combination of variables but when you have an economy where over 85% of her GDP figure is from oil,then,that is really, a serious problem.For Nigeria to get to where south africa is today will take nothing less than 15 - 20yrs abeg.That optimally diversified SA economy u confirmed no b yam o>where is Nigeria gon start from?If we move at the growth rate we operate presently and SA does same,it will take Nigeria 20 - 25yrs to move ahead of SA.Nigeria is on the brink of collapse,good we re all been optimistic but without uninterrupted power supply,Nigeria is moving no inch near development.For us then to generate the megawatt we require,it will definitely take more than 15yrs my brova.Infastucture is gone in Nigeria,i cant even use a VISA card on CIBN website(what a shame).We need massive investment in infastructure,serious capital market reform to stablise the forex market,consistent and progressive government policy to start with.The telecoms market you made reference of was a case of giving chocolate to a starved 3yr old kid.GSM was what Nigeria had lacked for years,NITEL was monopolistic and beyond the reach of the masses so when GSM came,it only takes common sense to know  if the people can afford it,it will be a good business because of the population.Yes,the market is there but without all other structural underlying economic development,its all gon be a waste!
PoliticsRe: Lagos State Is Sinking In A Sea Of Debt by dremoney(m): 10:55am On Jun 14, 2010
jmoore:
WHO SAID THE MORE DEVELOPED A COUNTRY THE HIGHER THE DEBT BECOMES? THAT IS A WRONG PRINCIPLE!!!!!


YOU DID NOT PUT CHINA IN YOUR LIST!!!

CHINA IS DEVELOPED!!! AND THEY ARE NOT INTO BIG DEBT LIKE THOSE COUNTRIES YOU LISTED
Please note that ''China'' is no where near a ''Developed Country'' classification, Over 50% of her population live in underdeveloped rural areas,the economy is still a communist state,large controlled from the centre.Alot of informations we dont know about how China manage their reserve.Protectionism is at the extreme in china,they devalue their currency specifically to make other countries less competitive,in-short,China is only advancing,its not a developed country.
Developed countries get loans to fund welfare,health and other government business,China is not keen on welfare as much as others.

The only thing they have is Military(Nuclear woteva) and the ability to spy on other countries technology and make their version.
BusinessRe: Advice On Relocation To Nigeria From Uk by dremoney(m): 8:17pm On Jun 09, 2010
faithin9ja:
Dear Poster

to answer your specific question;

Airfreight your personal effects, £3.50 per kilo, will be with you in less than 10 days.

Buy a gen in UK, £800 or less for 20KVA (equivalent in Nigeria N1.5mill), very good model, put this is a van or 4x4, also an LCD TV in original packaging, by ship from Tilbury or Sheerness should cost no more than £1000 for freight and cost N250k to clear depending on the vehicle, shouldn't take longer than 8 weeks to get to your door. don't worry no more wharf rats in Apapa or Tin Can.

Customs frown on fridges and furniture so don't bother with them and buy locally, but you can airfreight flatpack Ikea type furniture.

Get a good agent for a property in Dolphin, Dolphin is good for links to Island and the Airport, but sometimes it can flood during rainy season although recent drainage work have solved some of these problems.

Landlord will want 2 years upfront but you can negotiate this to pay first year immediately and the subsequent year in a few months time, the agents and lawyer will want 10% to 20%, they will want full amount upfront. Remember all this is subject negotiation.

When you have settled a bit you can buy a smaller car in Nigeria, you need 2 cars in Nigeria, buy a Kia or Hyundai or smaller Toyota or Honda. You can get finance for this, after your initial deposit it will probably cost about N50k a month.

You can also consider buying a house after a couple of years, you can get a finance for this as well, no credit reference agencies here, you'll need at least 25% - 40% deposit and repayment is not more than 7 years, usually as short as 5 years - so not really a mortgage, rather a secured loan. You will find your loan repayments will be more than the equivalent rent for such a property.

You will also need to factor in some domestic help, some people pay as low N15k a month for cook or steward, I would suggest much more, closer to N30k - N40k, personal driver N30k - N40K pcm, diesel will cost you up to N80k month (much more than your EON bill in UK), you will lose a further N20k every month to small 'egunje' from your staff.

Anyway these are just pointers, am sure you will do your research.
Nice one brova.Pls,im still expecting an email from you, damilare31@yahoo.co.uk, regards
BusinessRe: Advice On Relocation To Nigeria From Uk by dremoney(m): 1:55pm On Jun 09, 2010
faithin9ja:
@Vavavoom, I called them 'haters' because as I find with many Nigerians, we don't like our own country, always talking ourself down. See my tag Faith in 9ja!!!


The poster asked for advice regarding living arrangements not his business, but we seem to want to advice him on his business.

@newvision, it's taken me a year to settle and I am still settling down.

Please note Nigeria is not easy, there are many challenges but it is in the midst of these challenges that money can be made. There's a bad power supply so people are making money in solar power generation, there's poor water supply so people are making money in water pumping equipment, there is limited housing, so people are making money in building material. I say this just to highlight to other Nigerians, opportunities that exist within this great but difficult country.

But the poster asks for living conditions and we decide to highlight all the difficulties, am sure he is already aware of these challenges, but he (I presume it's a he) and other foreigners; Indians, Lebanese, Israelis, South Africans are coming to live in Nigeria, this same Nigeria that nairalanders continue to highlight the negatives.

Don't get me wrong, am not naive and I know the problems as much as any other Nigerian but I also know it is only we Nigerians that can do our little bit to improve the country. By coming back the poster will do his bit to help Nigeria, at least he will employ one or two people.
I'm so pleased with your words of encouragement.I love meeting positive minded folks like your.I came to Uk September 2007 for my masters and graduated last year March.I intend to relocate back to Nigeria at the end or before 2010 by God's grace to start a business no matter how small.Please,my budget is pretty small and would appreciate your advise (damilare31@yahoo.co.uk) is my account,please kindly send me an email for further details.

I have come to realise people use scare tactics to prevent others from relocating.Moreover,i think its wrong to generalise opinions because things work for in different ways!
PoliticsRe: Are Nigerians Resident In Uk Jealous Of Their Visiting Counterparts ? by dremoney(m): 1:28pm On Jun 09, 2010
lwkmd, I put this thread down to the ignorance of the poster.Talking about envy would only happen to a Nigerian living illegally in Uk.For chrissake,people on odd jobs after all the bills, are still better than majority of bankers in Nigeria.Guarantee!
Now lemme break your curiousity down>We dont envy,we only get upset when you come around and behave like you got billions somewhere waiting whereas,what you came to UK with might be 90% of the balance in your account(of course when you depart back to naija,struggle continues afterall you dont have any serious commitments at the end of the month).We live by the rules here,we dont owe water,electricity,council tax,phone,gas,insurance and other bills.We live like we dont have knowing Nigerians for what they are. When you eventually realise the truth in some cases,all you end up doing is tax and story and tax until you get the last.
c'mon guys,there's nowhere in the world where people live on equal means,mayb you've been squatting with mates God is yet to answer their Prayers but that in itself,is no indication of envy,they are merely disgusted with your backward thinking and moronic attitude.
This is jand mate,we do everything modestly!

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