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Pussickpunk:
Bros, I hail o.You went from wooing a lady about 2-3 threads back to E-boxing...
Can i come under tutelage sir...lol

Lasveg:
Can't u make ur points without insulting pple? Ur upbringing is very questionable.

MtuMsuper:
useless wannabe. Yuck. Go get stoned, its free as air.

Coldplay89:
How I wish he knew. He really seems to think that he sounds really smart churning out such vocabulary-laden insults. But he really sounds like a drunken, drug-addled hoodlum in some backwater street in London.
No sane, educated person talks like that.

MtuMsuper:
We are not 25 million people but 45 million you insecure simian. So where did you think numbers take you, abi? We see your kind all the time, its high time you get some factual sh1t in your head.

Coldplay89:
Apparently, you've got troubles upstairs. Are not the figures above in percentages?
I must be wasting my time arguing with a mentally unbalanced kid online.


Tchao........!

you're a little, intellectually sterile toad! You said: "Nigeria still has more poor people than Kenya" .

How's that in percentage when we are 33% poor and you're 43%? Beclouded messtard!

The only thing visible about in Kenya from Google maps is your animal wild life.

If you or any one of your subzero bozos in Kenya had little education, you wouldn't be having slums for cities and poverty as neighbours when you're only 25 million. Damn that's just the population of Lagos alone.

You're cursed with punctured brains and Intelectual infertility. Kenyan minion!

Coldplay89:
Any data still points to the same direction, that Nigeria has more people living in poverty than Kenya.

Nigerians living in poverty rise to nearly 61%


[color=#808080]Poverty has risen in Nigeria, with almost 100 million people living on less than a $1 (£0.63) a day, despite economic growth, statistics have shown.

The National Bureau of Statistics said 60.9% of Nigerians in 2010 were living in "absolute poverty" - this figure had risen from 54.7% in 2004.

The bureau predicted this rising trend was likely to continue.

Nigeria is Africa's biggest oil producer but the sector has been tainted by accusations of corruption.

According to the report, absolute poverty is measured by the number of people who can afford only the bare essentials of shelter, food and clothing.
North-south divide

The NBS, a government agency, said there was a paradox at the heart of Nigeria as the economy was going from strength to strength, mainly because of oil production - yet Nigerians were getting poorer.

"Despite the fact that the Nigerian economy is growing, the proportion of Nigerians living in poverty is increasing every year, although it declined between 1985 and 1992, and between 1996 and 2004," head of the NBS bureau Yemi Kale said.
Nigeria's population in poverty

1980: 17.1 million
1985: 34.7 million
1992: 39.2 million
1996: 67.1 million
2004: 68.7 million
2010: 112.47 million

Source: Nigeria's National Bureau of Statistics

Oil accounts for some 80% of Nigeria's state revenues but it has hardly any capacity to refine crude oil into fuel, which has to be imported.

Last month, there was a nationwide strike when the government tried to remove the subsidy on fuel, angering many Nigerians who see it as the only benefit they received from the country's vast oil wealth.

The NBS said that relative poverty was most apparent in the north of the country, with Sokoto state's poverty rate the highest at 86.4%.

In the north-west and north-east of the country poverty rates were recorded at 77.7% and 76.3% respectively, compared to the south-west at 59.1%.

BBC Africa analyst Richard Hamilton says it is perhaps no surprise that extremist groups, such as Boko Haram, continue to have an appeal in northern parts of the country, where poverty and underdevelopment are at their most severe.

The report also revealed that Nigerians consider themselves to be getting poorer.

In 2010, 93.9% of respondents felt themselves to be poor compared to 75.5% six years earlier.

Mr Kale says releasing such statistics from time to time is crucial for effective government planning.

"This kind of data helps them to know what is really happening so they can track their policies and programmes," he told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme.

"It gives them the opportunity to look at what they are doing... and if there are areas they need to change, it makes it easier to modify strategies," he added.[/color]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-17015873

You cited a source that stopped at 2010? What happened to the past 6 years?

I gave you last year's world bank figures and you're taking us back to 2010?

Your comprehension needs spiritual cleansing!

You're technically beyond repair.

You have admitted that a country of 25 million has 43% poverty and I have given you irrefutable proof that Nigeria, a country of 170 million, has 33% poor people.

You should be taken for a brain scan and comprehension test

Coldplay89:
You seriously have a problem.
http://hdr.undp.org/en/composite/HDI

Nigeria still rank below Kenya in that regard.


Could u please stop throwing around such claims without proof?

Coldplay89:
Any data still points to the same direction, that Nigeria has more people living in poverty than Kenya.

Nigerians living in poverty rise to nearly 61%


[color=#808080]Poverty has risen in Nigeria, with almost 100 million people living on less than a $1 (£0.63) a day, despite economic growth, statistics have shown.

The National Bureau of Statistics said 60.9% of Nigerians in 2010 were living in "absolute poverty" - this figure had risen from 54.7% in 2004.

The bureau predicted this rising trend was likely to continue.

Nigeria is Africa's biggest oil producer but the sector has been tainted by accusations of corruption.

According to the report, absolute poverty is measured by the number of people who can afford only the bare essentials of shelter, food and clothing.
North-south divide

The NBS, a government agency, said there was a paradox at the heart of Nigeria as the economy was going from strength to strength, mainly because of oil production - yet Nigerians were getting poorer.

"Despite the fact that the Nigerian economy is growing, the proportion of Nigerians living in poverty is increasing every year, although it declined between 1985 and 1992, and between 1996 and 2004," head of the NBS bureau Yemi Kale said.
Nigeria's population in poverty

1980: 17.1 million
1985: 34.7 million
1992: 39.2 million
1996: 67.1 million
2004: 68.7 million
2010: 112.47 million

Source: Nigeria's National Bureau of Statistics

Oil accounts for some 80% of Nigeria's state revenues but it has hardly any capacity to refine crude oil into fuel, which has to be imported.

Last month, there was a nationwide strike when the government tried to remove the subsidy on fuel, angering many Nigerians who see it as the only benefit they received from the country's vast oil wealth.

The NBS said that relative poverty was most apparent in the north of the country, with Sokoto state's poverty rate the highest at 86.4%.

In the north-west and north-east of the country poverty rates were recorded at 77.7% and 76.3% respectively, compared to the south-west at 59.1%.

BBC Africa analyst Richard Hamilton says it is perhaps no surprise that extremist groups, such as Boko Haram, continue to have an appeal in northern parts of the country, where poverty and underdevelopment are at their most severe.

The report also revealed that Nigerians consider themselves to be getting poorer.

In 2010, 93.9% of respondents felt themselves to be poor compared to 75.5% six years earlier.

Mr Kale says releasing such statistics from time to time is crucial for effective government planning.

"This kind of data helps them to know what is really happening so they can track their policies and programmes," he told the BBC's Focus on Africa programme.

"It gives them the opportunity to look at what they are doing... and if there are areas they need to change, it makes it easier to modify strategies," he added.[/color]

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-17015873

Damn!!! Your father should have used your tuition fees to rear pigs. You're an investment of no returns.

Countries poverty or wealthy people are measured in percentage!!! You're circus monkey with a phone with internet access. There are more poor people in US than in Finland. Fool

Nigeria is over 170 million people , Kenya is insignificantly 25 million. You're an embarrassment to your insignificant country.

Coldplay89:
You reread the italicized. Is the population opf Kibera really 2.5million?



Anyway......

Literacy Rate By Country in Africa

4. Kenya 85.10
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21. Nigeria 68.00

http://theafricaneconomist.com/ranking-of-african-countries-by-literacy-rate-zimbabwe-no-1/



Now I understand your problem, you people.

Bahahahahaha, Kenya still does mobile banking when the rest of Africa is doing E-banking

That's the figure of educated illiterates Kenya has.

There's no country the world with 24 million humans where human development index is as low as Kenya excluding Afghanistan and Syria.

Your technological feat is still below Ghana. Don't flex muscles with those who God made above you.

The only thing we know of Kenya is your wild life which can only generate a laughable economy of 53 billion dollars.

You are poverty personified!

Coldplay89:
Kenya poverty rate 43%

Nigeria poverty rate 70%


So much for having the biggest economy!

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2046.html

Coldplay89:

[size=15pt]Kenya's economy increases by a quarter to join Africa's top 10[/size]


[color=#808080]NAIROBI, Sept 30 Kenya's gross domestic product was estimated to be 25 percent bigger after the authorities changed the base calculation year to 2009 from 2001, sending the east African nation into the continent's top 10 economies.

Economic output was calculated to be 4.76 trillion shillings ($53.4 billion) in 2013 after the rebasing, up from 3.8 trillion shillings ($42.6 billion), the minister for devolution and planning, Anne Waiguru, told a news conference on Tuesday.

That takes Kenya up to ninth in Africa's GDP rankings from 12th, above Ghana, Tunisia and Ethiopia but below oil-producing Sudan based on a World Bank table for 2013.

The rebasing exercise means debt levels fall as a proportion of GDP, a closely watched ratio, and could give the government some leeway for more borrowing to help finance its plans to build new transport links and repair creaking infrastructure.

But revising the estimated size of GDP does not change Kenya's ability to repay additional loans nor does it mean it has more income to spend on development in a nation where many people are poor, roads are potholed and power supply is scarce.

"This gives us a little bit of welcome breathing space ... not an opportunity to open the cash register," said public policy and economic analyst Robert Shaw.

As with other rebasings in Africa, the move takes into account structural and other economic changes, such as new technology, and updates the base year for prices.

Kenya's GDP revision follows the far more dramatic rebasing earlier this year of Nigeria's economy when it changed the base year from 1990 to 2010 and, as a result, vaulted above South Africa to become Africa's biggest economy.

Kenya's rebasing was less pronounced because the gap with 2001 and the new base year of 2009 was shorter.

Changes in assessing agriculture, manufacturing and real estate accounted for most of the GDP rise. Technology and related fields are now treated as a standalone sector, taking into account a vibrant industry in Kenya, which has pioneered mobile telephone payments systems and exported the idea across Africa and beyond.

The economy could also get a further boost in a few years when commercial oil production is expected to start.

With the rebasing, economic growth was revised to 5.7 percent in 2013, up from the previous estimate of 4.7 percent, a figure that had been below expectations and was partly blamed on a spate of militant attacks and a decline in tourism.

MIDDLE INCOME NATION

"The new numbers are credible and they constitute an important improvement in the economic and statistical knowledge base for Kenya," Diariétou Gaye, the World Bank's country director for Kenya, said, adding that a World Bank team joined other experts conducting a peer review of the rebasing exercise.

Based on a debt figure of 2.4 billion shillings released in August after Kenya's heavily oversubscribed, maiden Eurobond, the debt-to-GDP ratio falls to about 50 percent from 57 percent previously, according to a Reuters calculation.
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But economists said a lower ratio did not mean the government was any better positioned to take out more loans.

"Debt service capacity and export growth, neither of which is expected to be substantially revised, are much more important when it comes to being able to take on more debt," Razia Khan, London-based Africa economist at Standard Chartered Bank, said before Tuesday's announcement.

With a population of about 44 million people, the new GDP figure implies economic output per capita stands at more than $1,200. That would push Kenya onto the bottom rung of middle income states, according to the World Bank's $1,045 to $12,746 band.

A higher income ranking means it might not benefit from some aid designed for the poorest countries, economists say.

Conversely, investors may be more attracted to a nation with a population that has more cash to spend, although many investors have already factored that into their calculations.

"If you look at the kind of investment flow already attracted by Kenya, the implicit assumption is that investors already treated it as a middle income country," said Khan.

The new status and a bigger economy have no direct impact on the lives of ordinary Kenyans, who are frustrated by poor roads and services. "The potholes are still there," said analyst Shaw.[/color]

http://www.reuters.com/article/kenya-economy-idUSL6N0RV1Q020140930

DriveByKiller:
arrgh!!! i do not dispute figures down to its last digit or seek to correct the actual population of Kenya or its slums. i do not care for those. the indisputable fact is that kenya has the largest number of slums in africa and is no 3 in the world.

and for a population of 25 milion, it is inexcusable. the first italicized paragraph of your post sums up the facts.

Coldplay89:
www.therichest.com says:


[size=14pt]3. Kibera, Nairobi, Kenya – 2.5 Million
kibera-nairobi-kenya[/size]


With a population of approximately 2.5 million dwellers, the slum of Kibera, located 7km southwest of Nairobi, consists of 200 settlements and occupies just 6% of Niarobi’s total land. Completely void of any cartographical context, its many unpaved roads see thousands of Kiberians walk many miles to and from work, passing metal homes and stores made from scrap barrels fashioned by hand. Only 20% of Kibera has the luxury of electricity. Water, until only recently, was collected from dam sources ripe with diseases such as typhoid and cholera. Any settler of the Kiberian slum must do without any government-owned hospitals or clinics.

Yet the entire population of the whole of Nairobi currently stands at 3.5million people! http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/kenya-population/

I think I have already provided you with a report from the authoritative British newspaper, The Guardian which carried the expose, refuting the claims about Kibera being the largest slum, with that many people.....
https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2012/aug/01/africa-propaganda-kibera

In that report, it is alleged that those figures are grossly exaggerated by the various unscrupulous NGO's operating there, seeking to dupe the donors into giving them more funds to support their various causes there.

In 2009, Kenya conducted its decennial census, in which it established that the population of Kibera was merely 170,000, and not 2000000 as widely claimed,. And the population of Nairobi then was merely 2.8million.
http://www.mapkibera.org/blog/2010/09/05/kiberas-census-population-politics-precision/

Looking at the map of Kibera, it is very hard to countenance the claim that upto 1million people would fit into such a small space

Look at the map below

The second is the picture of the entire Kibera.

Coldplay89:
Is Africa ranking a reliable source of such facts? You are not sensible at all.
http://www.mapkibera.org/blog/2010/09/05/kiberas-census-population-politics-precision/

Coldplay89:
Is Africa ranking a reliable source of such facts? You are not sensible at all.
http://www.mapkibera.org/blog/2010/09/05/kiberas-census-population-politics-precision/

And did u even bother to go through that exponent list really?
https://www.africanexponent.com/post/top-ten-tourist-destinations-in-africa-82

And kindly, do not try to dazzle me with those bombastic vocabularies. They do not make you sound intelligent, they more make you appear rather comical, especially when accompanied with such appalling display of ignorance.

Coldplay89:
U are ignorant. This statement of yours is reallly senseless.

Coldplay89:
Nope, Kenya is one of the most developed countries in Africa.
https://www.nairaland.com/51356/nairobi-photos-kenya-beautiful-east

And regarding slums in Kenya......it a fallacy that Kenya has the five biggest largest slums in Africa..

The missing millions of Kibera
https://www.theguardian.com/science/the-lay-scientist/2012/aug/01/africa-propaganda-kibera


Top Tourist Destinations in Africa.....
http://www.africa.com/africas-top-10-travel-destinations/

Kenyans are not thin and dark skinned. Just admit your ignorance and move on.

You're a bemedalled depey simpleton.

Kenya isn't even top 10 African countries in development. You troglodyte lowlives are still doing mobile banking because you have no standard banking institution..... slobbering fool.

Here, Kenya isn't top 5 in tourism: https://www.africanexponent.com/post/top-ten-tourist-destinations-in-africa-82


In Africa's largest top 20 slums Kenya has 7!!!!

Occupying the 1st and 3rd position.

Tell me how does a tiny country with 25 million has 7 slums in a continental population nearly a billion people?

Blazing bastard feeding us with cheap lies

http://www.africaranking.com/20-worst-slums-in-africa/

V0lv0:
Don't say guys. Say Nigerian guys. Not all guys have inferority complex. That said lady is a damn fool. Let her bleach and see what will happen to her in 20 years or less.Smelly, thin skin and possibly cancer to name a few. When she has kids her children will be dark skinned.

V0lv0:
Another clueless baffoons. If you people travel more and see just how [b]developed and nice Kenya is.

V0lv0:
You do know that it has more tourist going there then even to SA. Kenya and SA are the two top places tourist tend to visit when they come to Africa.

V0lv0:



Its 2016, google is free too surely you can't still be that daft!

JUSTbuchi:
do I need to say that it takes being a literature student to understand your text at times??

JUSTbuchi:
I dunno if this post is meant to crack me up or piss me off

Strahovski1:
You better get a life