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tinsel:
They are supporting Tinubu

Thats very obvious. Obi supporters are just labouring in vain.

PrinceOfLagos:
The Nigerian People most preferred choice

Let's meet at the poll on Saturday.

Spare parts association president in Ladipo. We will tell Iyaloja to remove him.

Hendrixky:
We are the giant of Africa for a reason


But tinubu and Apc is taking us back to retrogression


We say no to tinubu

He can't distance himself from this administration
We can not handover Nigeria at this present condition to some one who is not aware of his environment with dementia. Someone not physically and mentally fit

You see the pic below...the national anthem was going on but this man is not aware of his environment oshiomhole was looking at him like what da fuccck his wrong with this man....in oshiomhole mind he is like Nigeria will be the greatest fools if they allow this man to rule

Obi is the one that will take us back with tribal and religious affiliation which is not good for nationhood.

alsudan:
The pastors are asking members to vote Obi and Imams are asking members to vote Atiku.

Who will now speak for Thiefnubuu who’s neither here nor there?

Which imams adopted Atiku? I only know of Imams and scholars adopting Tinubu in Kano and Kaduna.

Chidibe212:
https://www.legit.ng/politics/1520836-2023-presidency-afenifere-youths-promise-obi-million-votes/

I laugh in Swahili. Where will they get that from? Are they living in the southwest?

TenQ:
Of course I understand that Mohammed has several hadiths in volumes by Muslim, Buhari, AbuDabi, etc. Surely, one of the thousands of hadiths should report the EVIDENCE of eye witness that Mohammed went to the seven Heavens.

1. I therefore implore you to give me just one eye witness evidence that Mohammed went to the seven Heavens?

Secondly , if there is no witness, can we completely trust Mohammed's report? Hence the question
2. Has Mohammed ever said a testimony or event which turned out to be completely UNTRUE?

Reason
If there was no corroborating evidence other than Mohammed's testimony, can he be trusted with respect to the journey to the seven Heavens?:

Did you read my earlier statement? Did I not tell you what he saw on his journey and because he was transported faster he arrived before the caravan which he saw on his journey? And everybody saw the caravan when it arrived. Is that not a witness that he did travel? And the rest of the journey is only fir him, not for everyone to witness. And Allah confirmed that he did travel to Allah in Quran. Muhammad SAW was not known to tell lies. Don’t you know that?

TenQ:
Really!?
Come on my friend, it's not as bad as that. I was only asking questions.

My last question to you was
Has Mohammed ever said a testimony or event which turned out to be completely UNTRUE?

Reason
If there was no corroborating evidence other than Mohammed's testimony, can he be trusted with respect to the journey to the seven Heavens?:

How is this a psycho question?

You are troubled soul. Most of what happened is his life were witnessed. Of what use is being a messenger when his life cannot be witnessed? If there’s any living human being whose life and death has been written in greatest detail, it is Muhammad SAW. The Hadith book of Buhari is in 10 volumes, each volume is a large book. And its all about the life of the prophet. And i am sure, not everything about his life would have been captured by people around. These things include his intimate relationship with wives as related by his wives and close relatives. No Prophet of Allah has been so studied. And the reason is because he is the last and greatest of them. And his message is for the whole world.

LegalWolf:
Walahi he is even worse.

The day I wrote him off completely was when I was trying to translate a Quranic verse to him (as literal as I could). He said something along the line of he cannot hire me as a lawyer because it will be straight loss. So apparently, he isn’t even remotely concerned with the truth. Just hogwash!

Just enjoy yourself brother and have a good night rest. Ma salaam!


Cc: potential thief TenQ

Waa alaikumu Salam. Yes he called me a native doctor😂😂😂. Jazakalahu khaira

EmekaA125:
Kill and waste any agbado Tinubu element that would want to forment troubles in Lagos. Fools

But when they are deployed to Anambra for Operation Python Dance, you shout Biafra or Death!!!😂😂😂

MaDaRa01:
50k

50k can not cause you any harm. Bet with your wife and house. Then we know you are serious.

OmoIjebuOde:
We are not fools. We will vote for either Atiku or Obi. Muslim-Muslim ticket is dead on arrival.

Shut up and fork off with your bigotry. That’s why Yoruba nation is dead on arrival.

MaDaRa01:
Mark todays date.

Atiku will win the election. Peter Obi will be the first runner up and Ahmed Tinubu the second runner up.

Someone should quote this, so that they wont say i modified it.

What do you want to bet with? Can you bet with your wife and house?

LegalWolf:
Salaam Akhi,

Is this your first time, with him?

Cc: potential thief TenQ 🤣🤣🤣

Waa alaikumu Salam. Yes indeed!!! He thinks like a psycho. 😂😂😂

TenQ:
If people were with Mohammed when this happened, does he need to narrate it to them?




No sir!
Allah doesn't need to boast about miracles. It is Mohammed who as a human being may need to boast. But Allah was responding to Questions the disbelievers were asking Mohammed.

They say:
"Mohammed, we are NOT seeing you do any MIRACLES Luke the prophets of old. Show us a sign?"

Allah came to defend Mohammed:
"Mohammed is just a Warner, not a miracle worker"!

If Mohammed did miracles, how is it that the Disbelievers and the Companions never saw him perform any?

All the miracles attributed to Mohammed was several years after his death in violation of the plain word of Allah.


I asked you a question



Let me ask you a question:
Has Mohammed ever said a testimony or event which turned out to be completely UNTRUE?

Talking loads of rubbish!!! Bye

TenQ:
Qur'an 17:1
Holy is He Who carried His servant by night from the Holy Mosque (in Makkah) to the farther Mosque (in Jerusalem) whose surroundings We have blessed that We might show him some of Our Signs. Indeed He alone is All-Hearing, All-Seeing.

I am aware of this verse BUT the verse was given by Mohammed through Jubril from Allah. UNFORTUNATELY,
1. Only Mohammed has seen Jubril
2. Only Mohammed gave the report claiming Jubril got it from Allah

The whole narrative is hinged on one Man Mohammed.

Let me ask you a question:
Has Mohammed ever said a testimony or event which turned out to be completely UNTRUE?


About where Allah says he gave no miracles to Mohammed, plentiful

Surah 29:50:
And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say[b]: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner.[/b]

Surah 13:7:
The unbelievers say, “Why has God not sent him, (Muhammad), some miracles.” Muhammad, you are only a warner. For every nation there is a guide.


Who do we believe, you or Allah?
Allah says no miracles was given to Mohammed as Mohammed is just a Warner!

First of all, when Muhammed received that revelation there were people with him and he related it to them. He even related that he saw some caravan coming to Makka. Shortly after that the caravan arrived and everything was confirmed.

And as for those verses, Allah does not boast about His miracles to Muhammad. But definitely he performed many miracles in his life and were witnessed by many people. Allah does not use His miracles to boast and He knows that even if miracles are given to those asking for it, they will still not believe him.

TenQ:
I know much about Islam because I ALMOST recited the shahada some years ago.
It was the obvious contradictions in the Qur'an that made me slow down and LEARN more of both the Christian and Islamic theology. I am therefore not speaking from here-say but from what I know.

My job is to help other Muslims to ASK Questions rather than blindly accepting everything they see. There are too many things you don't know in Islam sir even though you may have memorised the Qur'an , the Hadiths and the Tafsirs with strict compliance to the five pillars.

To know Islam, you need to ASK Questions!

Of course, if you can convince me that my observations are erroneous, I am highly reasonable and might convert to the superior knowledge of Islam

Sir, the problem I see in you is that when you noticed any seeming contradiction you don’t probe deep to know the truth behind it. I suspect your sincerity to find truth shaky, that’s why you have not seen the truth.

TenQ:
I do NOT believe that Allah took Eesa to Himself. It is your books that said so.

Who brought the Qur'an to you? Is it not the same Mohammed through Jubril? How can he be an Evidence in his own case.

I don't believe in the Qur'an because it is impossible for God to make mistakes and also impossible that God doesn't know how nature works.

Let me give you a few examples

1. Why does Allah think that the Sun sets inside Murky Waters: I believe you know a little geography
2. Why did Allah say that men have their semen/reproductive fluid coming from their backbone while the women have their reproductive fluid coming from their ribs: again I expect that you know a little biology
3. Why did Allah forget that he is above going to hell fire in the Al-Fathia and he is praying to who for salvation
4. Why did Allah think mary the mother of Jesus is the Daughter of Amran (who is the Father of Moses) and mary is actually the sister of Aaron?
5. If Allah dictated the Quran, how come he seem not to know what he created FIRST?
6. Why did Allah (if he is God) allow Prostitution for Muslims and the guidelines for it in the Quran
7. Why did Allah think marrying and divorcing children is OKAY?
If these are untrue I can give you Quranic references: what if they are all TRUE?

Can you please explain: these contradictions if they are not fabrications of Mohammed

I don’t argue for argument sake. If you are seeking truth to be a musilm, i can sit down with you.

TenQ:
If I have found evidences in the hadiths, I wouldn't have bothered you but they don't exist anywhere EXCEPT you can find one for me.

Just one hadith will be enough for evidence.


Secondly, are you contradicting the almighty Al-Lah?
Because, Allah says no miracle was given to Mohammed. Are you manufacturing EVIDENCES?

We're miracles given to Mohammed by Al-Lah?

Show me the verse where Allah says He did not give miracle to Muhammad. As for the israh wal miraage, i will give you a verse to read. Its far greatee than any hadith or witness. Because it is a statement of Allah and the ultimate truth. Read chapter 17:1.

Crimecity:
https://www.arise.tv/the-economist-endorses-peter-obi-says-hes-the-only-candidate-who-offers-nigerians-hope-of-change/#

Does Economist have PVC?

TenQ:
Who were the witnesses at least the hadith should mention either Aisha, Fatima or Umar or Al Abbas etc.

Just one hadith will be enough for evidence.

Unfortunately, Allah says no miracle was given to Mohammed. Are you manufacturing EVIDENCES?

Go dig for evidence. We know there were numerous witnesses. You don’t get your answer from only one hadith.

Nairalander248:
Tinubu's Thread


I don't believe in One Nigeria- Tinubu
https://www.nairaland.com/6491002/dont-believe-one-nigeria-says

Why Bola Tinubu Must Never Be Nigeria’s President, By Festus Adedayo
https://www.nairaland.com/6942187/why-bola-tinubu-must-never

Bola Tinubu Started The Multi-Billion Life Pension For Former Governors
https://www.nairaland.com/6048197/bola-tinubu-started-multi-billion-life

Revisiting The Unholy Activities Of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu
https://www.nairaland.com/1514668/revisiting-unholy-activities-asiwaju-bola

You should be ashamed of yourself. I thought you were giving us threads of how Lagosians complained about Tinubu government. Rather you are giving us personal opinions of disgruntled elements.

Mazisimonekpa:
https://mobile.twitter.com/simon_ekpa/status/1627089905292832772

Because they know peter Obi is losing this election. Biafra or Death slogan has started.

Bigseven:
no wam! e be like say na that Lagos wey you Dey for your family father house Dey make you comfortable na why the cap. When I said suffering I didn’t mean literally suffering but if you are following the trend of events and the policies you’d understand that Nigeria didn’t move forward economically and industrially. No doubt your paymaster built Lagos and left legacy but don’t forget that Lagos was Nigerias capital at some point and of course some attention was given to Lagos. I’m not from the east but a true Nigerian from the north central. Eitherway you are entitled to support whoever you want to as time will reveal soon. Enjoy your Lagos nigga

Don't follow people who have no sense in saying it’s because Lagos was capital. The Lekki Free Trade Zone was created by Tinubu, not federal government and he signed agreements with chinese and Dangote to bring industries there. Many things he did were not done by Federal government but by Tinubu. He was adjudged the best governor in Nigeria at the tome. The lazy governors and others refused to develop their states. Lagos started the increased IGR from Tinubu era. Capital was moved out of Lagos in 1991. Tinubu became governor 8 years later. All the things Tinubu did were not there before he became governor. That was 8 years after Lagos was no more the capital. So you stop saying Lagos was capital argument. It makes mo sense.

Thinkam:
That first picture heavily edited..
After half a billion, failed rally.

Atiku is coming

Atiku is coming….. back to Dubai😂😂😂

CoronaVirusRelo:
Atiku is dead on arrival!

Himself and Peter would be congratulating Asiwaju by next week!

In shaa Allah. By Sunday 7 days from now. Atiku and Obi will be congratulating Tinubu.

BurningFireAK47:
I AM SURE YOU LACK MATHEMATICAL KNOWLEDGE FROM YOUR CONTRIBUTION. GO AND LEARN MORE ABOUT PERCENTAGES.
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Obi cannot get 5% in Ibadan. All igbos in Ibadan are not up to 5% of population.

Ahahahah!!! I taught many students who all had distinctions A1 of that time in GCE.

TenQ:
1. If I quoted the bible for you, do you believe it? NO!
THEREFORE,
I quote that which you believe to prove my point. You believe in the Qur'an, therefore will you please respond.

Qur'an 4:158
but Allah raised him to Himself.Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

Is the Qur'an 4:158 wrong?

It is a simple question



Surah 29:50:
And they say: Why are not signs sent down upon him from his Lord? Say: The signs are only with Allah, and I am only a plain warner.

Surah 13:7:
The unbelievers say, “Why has God not sent him, (Muhammad), some miracles.” Muhammad, you are only a warner. For every nation there is a guide.


Who do we believe, you or Allah?
Allah says no miracles was given to Mohammed as Mohammed is just a Warner!

So, how do you want to believe it's a miracle against the words of Allah?

Or, is there ANY verse of the Qur'an where Allah says Mohammed was given miraculous power or sign?


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

I hope you can think: if you read that Allah took Eesa to Himself and you believe it, because that is why you quote it, what stops you believing the same Allah that says mirage snd Israh happened? Don’t you read that too in Quran?

TenQ:
All he needs is presentable evidence that miracles occurred. Since they occured over 600 years ago, credible witnesses will suffice

So, who told you there were no witnesses when those miracles happened?

SIRTee15:
It was real. It was witnessed by Jesus disciples and followers who attested to it as a real experience and wrote about it.
Mohammed who travelled to heaven 600 years after the Ascension confirmed it was real...he saw Jesus in heaven.

Thats how mirage and israh was real. Now tell me if the ascension of Jesus followed scientific rules? If it did not follow scientific rules, thats miracle. And thats exactly what happened in Muhammad’s case.

Bigseven:
if it’s fairly done nothing like shout nigga. I no sey suffer no dey tire you

We no dey suffer for Lagos wey Tinubu ruled. That’s why all of una dey run come Lagos. Tinubu brings prosperity to wherever he rules. Na Obi Anambra where suffer head dey.

TenQ:
The scripture was clear
Act 1:9:
"And having said this, while they were beholding [him] he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight."

1. He was taken up by HIMSELF
2. The cloud received him out of their sight.

After the clouds, the disciples couldn't see Jesus again therefore the issue of vacuum in space does not arise. We can say what was revealed.

But, so many things are possible for Jesus which is not possible for other humans LOL
Like
1. Creating a bird from clay
2. Giving life to the dead
3. Speaking as a baby etc

So, you think Jesus couldn't have survived if he went into the space vacuum? LOL!

Even then, you are the Muslim:
Allah himself in the Qur'an attests to the fact that Jesus was taken to Allah.

Qur'an 4:158
but Allah raised him to Himself.Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise

Is the Qur'an 4:158 wrong?






NOW that I have answered ALL your questions, please answer mine.


THE QUESTIONS:
1. Now, the going of Mohammed to the seven Heavens, was it REAL or FICTIONAL?

2. Who was the EVIDENCE?

Stop quoting Quran, because you don’t believe the story in Quran. You said jesus took himself up, is he a astronaut or space diver? You are talking of miracles, if you believe in miracles, why can’t you believe the story of Muhammad mirage and israh as miracle? Is it only Jesus that was given power of miracles? You are so ignorant I don’t even know how many questions to throw at you.

StrongAlphMale:
It's obvious everyone is canvassing support for their preferred candidates.

However, lots of people on this forum who have decided to remain daft, illiterate and extremely unintelligent will gain their senses Back immediately after the election next week.

I must commend and congratulate the incoming president of Nigeria, who will be declared winner of the election by next week Saturday (you already know him). I sincerely hope sanity will be restored to this forum by next week Saturday.

Another form of insanity will arise: Biafra or Death campaigners.