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So you are the only "reasonable" person, because everyone else is unreasonable.

Take your flowers, deputy god.

Dtruthspeaker:
No reasonable person called our Lord names and nor did anyone criticize Him over His clothing.

Every reasonable person sees those clothes represent pride, vanity and a person wants glowry and praise to cgo to him. All of which do not represent God. So, it's clear that he is reping himself and that he is own god, which means that he is committing idolatry and that even he himself is an idol as you obviously have taken him to be. So, you see, both he and you are wrong, see all the sins both of you are committing and have committed

I think a poor orientation is to "give" roles to anyone on the basis of gender.

Both genders are equal before the law, and people should be made to contest and win or lose regardless of gender.

It is sexist to define elective positions by gender, and it isn't appropriate.

Did people not call our Lord all manners of things?

Did they not criticise him for wearing a cloth that was of one seam or so?

Even till today, isn't it true that the nation of Israel isn't Christian becaus ethey still criticise Jesus, their citizen?

If we do things because of what people would say all the time, how are we different from others? Even Benson Idahosa was criticised for wearing Agbara to preach, at a time when preachers were a lot more collared.

Dtruthspeaker:
If our Lord had dressed like this wouldn't people had called Him yahoo boy and vain?

"Let your moderation be known unto all men"

Clearly, he is representing the lord of pride and vanity

Other than his darkened and well-groomed hair, what's the issue with the elderly gentleman's dressing?

Only God exactly understands why they are doing these concrete roads. America and Europe use asphaltic roads, abi what is this concrete noisy road wahala...

I honestly do not understand how you allowed them to extort you unfairly. Since you already forfeited your appointment, you could have stayed on your right until they freed you. You shouldn't have lost twice (by missing your appointment and losing cash to them) then come to a faceless forum to complain - except what you are saying isn't the full story.

The day 40% of our society understands these facts you have written below, that day we would rise again as a country.

At the moment, our people are still jaundiced by political party. The Igbo are still desperately seeking Aso Rock, rather than working tho build a reliable opposition OR to bid their time within the APC by blending into the party, allowing the President to finish his term, have over to the North East or North Central (NE most likely) with an Igbo VP before coming to the South East Presidency in 2039.

There are no sentiments in this political chess game. It is either you build a viable opposition structure across the country or you blend into what currently exists. Note that the South South have 100% APC governors at the moment and would contest that Igbo VP ticket in 2031 if the South East doesn't show firm electoral commitment in 2027.

I want an Igbo President in my lifetime, but it has to be built on trust and huge political investment. The problem with our society is what you've written - not any political party situation - or whoever governs Aso Rock.

Orinechi:
Is not all about security. It is the result of moral decadence we promote in the name of being civilized. Our society is a mirror of our homes. We rushing to be on a par with American and British society but our justice system is no where close to that of those countries. And parental discipline which instills values in the younger generation has been thrown to the dog. What you see now is not ending any time soon. There is a limit these security agents can be stretched.

I don't know how old you are, but you are apparently young. My NL account was opened just a few years after that election


The 1999 Presidential election was between OBJ of PDP and Olu Falae of the AD/APP combination. As both parties couldn't coalesce into one, Dr Ogbonnaya Onu, the Igbo Presidential candidate of APP and former Abia State Governor, stepped down for the AD Presidential candidate and his APP supplied Umaru Shinkafi as the VP on the APP ticket that Olu Falae ran on.

This was done because APP had a greater National spread than AD at the time, so ideally, Falae should have won in the South East, as he had a complete Eastern alliance.

Obasanjo was the candidate of the PDP - and lost in the South West, as he was a military and Northern Oligarchy Yoruba imposition at the time.

Just clarifying.

chopnaira:
Obj got 2.3 million.
The election was only between PDP (Obj) and AD (Falae).
I know you were still wearing diaper in 1999.

She do bombom ni?
That shape looks unusually larger that I knew it to be

This was a time!

Nigeria has to aggressively get back at industrialization. To do this, we need to have a stable political system where the government can plan for 20 years and follow it through.

The country must be restructured to make States and Local Governments have viable autonomies, so that they can compete against each other on the industrialization track. The overcentralization of almost everything in Nigeria towards Abuja feeds red-tapism, corruption and blunts real development.

We need to know that the problem is us, and not the political parties. All the parties are essentially the same, and there is no PO-ssible miracle, just like BAT has been unable to give us a better country in 4years. We need 20 years of sustained development with a firm blueprint in the first instance.

That's Nigeria's realistic chance.

It is embarrassing that a Reverend Father cannot lay a great example. His Catholic Priest predecessor had laid excellent precedence by using the wife of the Deputy Governor.

Alia should have followed same but then...

That's why I don't trust these religious people.

God please o.

I hope PO hasn't made another gaffe here.

Thanks for providing this clarification.

This would certainly go all the way to the Supreme Court but the time is too short to come to a conclusion that may deregister the parties.

Any attempt to deregister the parties NOW would lead to huge conflagration in the polity. It is too late to bring these up now.

DomPerignon:
Because the electoral act and past supreme court judgements have barred INEC from disqualifying any candidate or deregistering any party because the electoral act did not empower INEC with such powers.

The onus then lies on a court of law to do the needful when approached by a petitioner to do such.

Hold on!

How didn't INEC deregister then initially? What was the ground for not deregistering those parties before now?

Just like a time when Poland beat Brazil in the third place match of the World Cup in 1974, four years after the same Brazil had won for a record third time and retired the Jules Rimet World Cup trophy at the time.

FortCavazosKnox:
You are absolutely right but you still can’t deny that there was a time where Brazil vs Morocco football match means automatic 3 points for Brazil

Brazil beat Morocco 3-0 in the reference France 98 Mundial, didn't they?

Honestly, I didn't think you meant 2002. However, even at that, Brazil quite struggled to qualify for the 2002 World Cup from South America. The Selecao essentially grew into the tournament before winning it.

It is argued by some that the group stages were fixed to make it easy for the Samba boys to qualify, based on their perceived weakness at the time. If I am not mistaken, they were in a group with China, Costa Rica and Turkey...

FortCavazosKnox:
You are talking about now while I was talking about 2002, what was Morocco’s ranking in 2002?

Well ..

Israel IS NOT a member of the European Union.

Mccullum:
European countries and hypocrisy, they can accepted Israel but denied Morocco due to geographic location, so Middle East where Israel located is part of Europe.

You are underestimating Morocco. Brazil is 6th on FIFA rankings while Morocco is 7th!

Morocco is virtually a European team, and that country had applied to join the European Union in 1987. They were denied for geographical reasons.

No member of the starting 11 of the Atlas Lions was born in Africa.

Don't ever underestimate Maroc!

FortCavazosKnox:
Football has really changed, imagine Brazil not nit being able to defeat Morocco. Imagine it was the year 2002

There was no space for 3rd best loser in 1998. It was the first 32-nation World Cup with 5 African countries, up from 3. USA 94 had 3rd place loser spots because there were 24 countries at the time.

Kalulu44:
It was
Brazil
Norway
Morocco
Scotland.
.
Brazil and Norway went thru to the next round.
Morocco didn't secure enough points to qualify as one of the 3rd best loser

You remember well.
It seemed, at that time, that Brazil "sold" the game to Norway, as it has been expected that Brazil would beat Norway and Morocco would qualify by simply defeating Scotland, as they did.

AkumTemi:
I still remember that match between Morocco and Scotland. Morocco won 3:0, but crashed out after Norway beat Brazil in the last group match.
Mustapha Hadji, Hadda and Chippo were at their best that day. The Moroccan keeper Idris Benzekry was at his best that day.

This would hurt many of our people. Kuwait is one of the highest paying Shagala countries.

It is modern slave trade, but then, many of our people do it in the absence of sustainable means of living at home.

Thanks for clarifying, and the politeness of same.

Regards.

callmeDDD:
I said that was their way of doing bodycam... Not that it was a bodycam. Just like having an evidence in video though through their phone..

That's not body cam. Body cam doesn't change views. The camera kept changing directions, at the children, the woman and up the roof.

callmeDDD:
That's their way of body cam. It's made for doubting Thomas like you. They have overpowered those that were outside and killed them, and only showed when to enter the room after they have successfully gained access to the victim. Did you hear the press release that the operation was over 1 hr? So, lots of shooting would have gone underground before that recording.
I have been telling people that those that kidnapped that family just wanted to extort money from them, and they were just ordinary bad guys on the street. Bandits don't have time to kidnap like that especially in the city.

But why did the police have to shoot at the man in the roof who bore no arms?

I know the society is charged, but extra-judicial killing isn't right either. You don't shoot at an unarmed person except the court of competent jurisdiction has passed a death sentence, isn't it?

However, looking closely, despite the close proximity, it doesn't look like the suspected kidnapper in the roof was hit by the gunshot. He should have crumpled to the floor from the roof and died if that happened. However, his descent, thought fast, showed some clumsy coordination, suggesting that he wasn't killed.

Yet, this poses another challenge: how can our security agencies shoot that closely and not hit the intended target?

Thanks for the engagement. First, let me just clear the air on one thing: I am not speaking for the government at all. I am neither a politician nor a government appointee, so I have no brief to defend anyone. I am just looking at this strictly from a professional and civic angle, especially regarding how security operations run versus how public communication should be handled during a major crisis like this.

To be honest, you made some very solid points that I completely agree with. You are spot on about the government losing goodwill and completely mismanaging the narrative. Seeing top officials dotting around in agbada looking like special guests at an owambe while families are in trauma is truly nauseating and deeply embarrassing. You are totally right that when leadership takes weeks to show empathy or doesn't let the public see law enforcement actively moving on the ground—the way they do during crises in the US—it creates a massive vacuum. It makes the state look incredibly complacent and incompetent, and that critique of the administrative optics is 100% valid.
Where we need to look closer, though, is the actual mechanics of the security operations you mentioned, because the context is a bit different from what is happening in Oyo. Take the Munich Olympics incident and Operation Wrath of God that you brought up. That was an international, decades-long covert assassination campaign hunting down targets across Europe and the Middle East years after the event. It wasn't an active, domestic hostage rescue mission. In Oyo, we are dealing with a live, local kidnapping where the absolute, immediate priority is getting living victims out of a specific forest or terrain safely. The operational rules for these two scenarios are completely different.

Even if we look at the Entebbe rescue operation in 1976 which you also mentioned, the same rule applied. That was a lightning-fast commando raid done in total secrecy on foreign soil. The Israeli military didn't give the public or the media live updates about troop strength, the terrain, or the routes they were taking while the operation was brewing. If they had broadcasted those details beforehand, the hijackers would have just executed the hostages on the spot.

That is exactly why tactical details have to be kept under wraps, even if it is incredibly frustrating for those of us watching from the outside. The police or military command cannot come out to tell the public how many men are on the ground, the routes they are taking, or exactly what they know about the kidnappers' positioning while the operation is active. These criminal networks and terrorists track the news and social media constantly. Giving out those specific details live on TV effectively hands the adversary the operational blueprint, which immediately compromises the safety of the troops and puts the lives of those innocent victims in direct danger.

I completely agree with you that the delay and the communication gaps from the leadership have been a massive embarrassment, and people have every right to feel secure and see that the state is capable. But there is a very fine line between demanding better public empathy and crisis management from political leaders, and demanding tactical data that belongs strictly in a secure command center. Our ultimate goal is to see those victims returned safely to their families, and achieving that requires absolute operational discretion on the back end, even while we rightly continue to hold the administration accountable for their general incompetence.

Lithiumite:
Whats the correlation between the Munich incident and domestic terror we are talking about.....who is even asking the military to kill the terrorists today today........if you call me young,I appreciate that because I want to stay young for as long as possible but I will tell you about other covert mossed ops such as the entebbe rescue operation in the 70s,the decades long hunt for nazi commanders across the globe.

That is mossed,thats covert,this kidnap incident would have its covert side on the back end,no one is telling NIA or DMI to come and be telling us live updates,no! Far from it.

But the police,army command can tell us how many men are on ground, details of the terrain,what they know about the kidnappers,the routes they took etc.....the govt has lost a lot of goodwill overtime that people no longer believe what govt says but majority believe what they see even if its a lie.

You showing me NSA and CoS in agbada Dotting all over the place like special guests at an owambe event is nauseating to be honest more disconcerting is that it even took them 2 weeks to come out to address the people,haba!!

This has brought nothing but embarrassment tobthe govt, even if the kids gets rescued today nobody will care anymore but what will keep ringing in people's minds is the incompetence of govt to have allowed this happen in the first place putting those children and their families through so much trauma.....thats tbe narrative that govt should have seized and deployed to change.....we see shooting incidences in america and within 24 hrs you are already getting live feeds from the scene with law enforcement seen moving around doing their jobs and speaking to the public,this gives a sense of self worth and security and that govt is capable and not complacent.....imagine something bad happens to any of the remaining victims,God forbid.....what the people will keep in their heads is that govt responded too late.

Like many young people, you guys just rush to what you see in movies or TV.

Let me take you to 1972 in Germany. Nigeria isn't even at that level of organisation yet. Several Israeli athletes were killed in cold blood at the Olympics Games village.

​The games went on but Israel did something really cold. The Israeli government, headed by a woman at the time, commissioned a covert revenge mission.

Through MOSSAD's Operation Wrath of God, they spent years systematically hunting down and eliminating the key operatives behind the hit. They didn't do it for PR, and they didn't hold press conferences while tracking them.

Everything about terror and counter-terror isn't broadcast realtime on TV.

Lithiumite:
No one is telling givt to divulge operational details to the public, dont you see crisis situtions in US where CNN will be broadcasting updates on incidents with security and govt officials giving updates on whats being done to salvage the situation..... the security agencies dont need to tell you exact operational info.I am talking about aesthetics these kind of thing does only one thing PR for govt, this is an election season, do you know how much mileage the govt would have gotten,it gives the people a sense of self worth,this should be proven that this is western Nigeria and we dont condone such nonsense here......even if the kids gets rescued it doesn't add anything to tinubu's anymore.

Finally, someone very knowledgeable has commented. It took 3 pages to get a reasonable comment that isn't reactionary.

When they all owe their certificates to miracle centres and cheating, how would they reason that government CANNOT divulge ongoing plans in an anti-terror-attack situation?

Government certainly aren't employing these 1000 forest guards to solve the immediate rescue operation in Oyo. No, those are for long-term territorial control. The Oyo attack is way too close to home for the President not to want to strike back hard, but his hands are clearly tied because the priority is saving the Principal, the teachers, and the children.

If there were no hostages held as human shields, the whole helicopter raids and drone attacks would have been initiated days ago.

dragunov:
Oga, the 1000 intended forest guards is not to combat the terrorists who stole 46 people. They will be raised, as part of government efforts to forestall future occurrences. Presently, the terrorists have been located and surrounded but the government owe you no explanation on when they were located, how they were located and where they were located. The only info I can divulge do far is that they have been surrounded, the terrorists know they are, they are upset about it and are threatening to kill another hostage. Infact, they are now desperate for negotiation and the government is refusing to do that. The government is obviously cautious because of the kids, otherwise, they would have cleared them.

Aisha, you go explain tire. No evidence!

You accept flawed electoral process in your party. You call it "strategic". Yet you want your flawed electoral process party to come and displace a flawed government in power.

One flaw cannot produce a better flaw.

The devil we know, they say, is better than the perceived angel we don't know!

To achieve what the PSN is saying, we need to decide on on a way to vote at elections in a manner where every vote would count FAIRLY.

You see, government cannot plan long-term is they have to fight for the seat every 3 years of a 4 year cycle. For as long as political parties and electioneering remains the wars that it is, we remain in this cul-de-sac

But that's one problem. To solve that problem, Nigerians would have to vote from their houses, using their phones. We wouldn't need PVC anymore but we would use our NINs and our phones.

The second problem is that Nigerians would need to have quality education. The situation where our children pass exams across board using supposed "miracle centres" mean that we are developing a great population of certificates-bearing citizens with blunted critical-thinking capacities. Nigeria's clearance exam today is UTME. That's the CBT exam where there's the LEAST level of open examination malpractice. It isn't that they do not cheat o, but its levels are the lowest. The evidence of low standards is when we reduce the cutoff marks to 35% i.e 140/400.

Can you imagine America lowering admission levels after GRE and GMAT to 35%?

Until we do that, governments cannot plan long-term. That's the problem with the NDC plan to vote Peter Obi for only one term and vote Kwakwanso for two terms thereafter. It is deceit on arrival. The Igbo man would not become President and decide to do only one term. They would clash with everyone in government. That's unfortunately the truth. The Igbo have waited for far too long to be President to accept only 4 years. As President, 4 years is like one day.

Finally, what Oba Ladoja said is a different matter entirely. Traditional medicines are acceptable once they are passed through the same clinical trials as modern medicine. Artesunate and Ginseng, for example, are traditional Chinese drugs that have been accommodated into mainstream modern drugs. The reason is because they went through that stringest global clinical trial standards.

These things are simple to understand, if we have and allow knowledge to pervade every decision we take as a people.

Naptu2, my guy!

See clap back!!!

So she ran to Abuja to avoid Osho-Baba. These people think that this thing is ONLY about social media clout. It isn't. We are all involved in the processes that led to the mess, and must patiently but painstakingly rewind the mess.

It must take years of preparation, planning, horse-trading and real politicking.

naptu2:
Against Oshiomhole?

There's certainly a lot to learn here. Would you mind keeping a diary, please?

Would love to see how this develops over time, and more pictures, please.

This is what Nairaland indeed looked like when I joined in 2005 or 2006. There were truly interesting reads like this on the arrival feature page.

mgamelia:
When I first took in the amputee chameleon, I honestly thought the hardest part would be helping her eat and recover physically. Surprisingly, that part went well. She eats like a champ. Crickets disappear in seconds, and she even drinks water confidently now.

But emotionally? That’s been a completely different story.

Every time I walk near her enclosure, she turns dark stress colors, puffs up, and sometimes even screams. The first time it happened, I froze. I’ve cared for reptiles before, but hearing that tiny defensive scream felt heartbreaking. It was obvious this little animal had been through more than anyone realized.

What many new reptile owners don’t understand is that chameleons are extremely sensitive creatures. Unlike dogs or cats, they don’t usually seek comfort from humans. In rescue cases, especially after injury or neglect, simple movements near the enclosure can feel threatening to them.

Why Rescue Chameleons Often Stay Afraid

I’ve tested a few small changes over the past weeks, and honestly, this is where things finally started improving. I stopped reaching into the enclosure unless absolutely necessary. I added more live plants and extra hiding spots. Most importantly, I stayed consistent with lighting, feeding times, and noise levels.

Slowly, her reactions became less intense.

Experts in reptile care now recommend “low-interaction recovery periods” for traumatized reptiles, especially amputee rescues. The goal isn’t forcing trust overnight. It’s creating an environment where the animal feels safe enough to relax naturally.

She still gets scared sometimes. Recovery isn’t linear. But seeing her rest peacefully instead of panicking feels like progress worth celebrating.

And honestly? Watching a frightened rescue slowly feel safe again is one of the most rewarding experiences I’ve ever had.

Tinubu should double your salary. Your PR capacity is legendary.

Putinofrussia:
Tinubu will easily win with a landslide in 2027.
Apart from the legacy insecurity and high cost of living which is global,Tinubu has performed creditably well more than all previous govts but he should sit up and fix the worsening security situation.

On the other hand,these are people and reasons why Tinubu will win again...


1.Pensioners' health subsidy and free maternal services.....Most pensioners and their families will vote for Tinubu including the women who wouldn't want the free maternal ,🤨

2.Dialysis health subsidy....Most dialysis patients families will vote for Tinubu.

3.Nelfund beneficiaries going to 1million....Both the existing beneficiaries and the ones about to come into the universities and their families will vote for Tinubu.

4.Free technical colleges with free feeding and #22,500 monthly free money....The parents of these young students will vote for Tinubu.
There are still many more but these are the major programs Nigerian masses will not want another clueless govt to stop because no other govt in the history of Nigeria has given Nigerians these laudable gifts.

Now for the 'failures'...

Insecurity....This is a legacy problem initiated by Northerners and still been facilitated by them.
No President can stop it unless the people especially the Northerners support and agree to sheath their swords.
It is decades long problem that continues to grow and grow even if it subsides a little,it grows again because it is supported by some Northerners in the govts of Obasanjo,Yaradua,Jonathan,Buhari and now Tinubu.
It has religious,ethnical,political and parochial roots.
Unfortunately,some foreign terrorists have joined the fray.
It doesn't have just a military solution but a live and let live solutions that include negotiations et al.
Gun violence in America takes thousands of life every year but no American President has been able to stop it because it is perpetrated by Americans.
Out of 2 evils,,sometimes you take the lesser one in order for life to continue..

Israel couldn't defeat Hamas,Hezbolah,Houthies even by killing100 thousands of their people.
Israel will just continue to fight for eternity because those people's children will continue to fight Israel.
The Crusaders were never obliterated,they took power in some nations and got assimilated.USA and its allies never obliterated ISIS,they were scattered into other nations like Nigeria,Mali etc and their leader still became the President of Syria.So also was Taliban etc.
If anybody will stop this carnage,Tinubu will but he will take some steps that some people will not like and will cost him his second term and without second term,you can't solve the problem.

If you want to talk about cost of living,it is all over the world but Nigeria felt it more because of the removal of subsidy which was sinking Nigeria.
Bag of rice went over #100,000,beans was #2,400 per Derica and so on.
It is not enough but things have come down a little while some are still up.

The greatest and unparalleled achievement of Tinubu are the unheard in Nigeria massive projects he is executing all over Nigeria.
No sane person will want all of these to stop.

None of the Presidential candidates has what it takes to govern Nigeria like Tinubu going by their antecedents.