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Whitney has more control over her voice.

You're beautiful --James Blunt

Cl,

Yeah. I agree.

truewhite,

Alright. You were a fool. You've got no one's ass to kick but your own.

true white,

How did you have the money to go to her.

Yet for 15 months you did not go see this true love?

Ciaralover,

Sorry, here's a more direct scripture reference.

Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith who blows the coals in the fire, and who brings out a tool for his work; and I have created the waster to destroy.


Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against you shall be blessed; and every tongue that shall rise against you in judgment, you shall condemn. This is the inheritance of the servants of Jehovah, and their righteousness is from Me, says Jehovah.

truewhite,

Oh. You shared a true love with a black lady for 15 months but when she needed you, you checked on her like she was a common thief.

Making all the people in her town even know what you really thought about her by all your questions.

I think I might see the problem.

Even the fact that your on the web calling for the deaths of Nigerians. Let's me know exactly why she freaked out and got away from you.

You want to make us think she is a thief but I say she could be no more than a girlfriend who ran off with all the house furniture. Kept the diamond ring. Whatever.

The police evidently agree with me and ain't getting in that boyfriend, girlfriend stuff.

Just because she is a Nigerian, you have racistly assumed she was just a 419.

I don't think the story is that clear cut in this case.

Whatever.

replace the name Laura Bush with Gabrielle Union, Halle Berry, Angelina Jolie, Denzel Washington, Brad pitt, input whatever celebrity's name you want. And you will still have the same scenario you described. Maybe they should put every celebrity on that list then if that's the definition for power.

Isn't that the reason Angelina Jolie IS doing it? Because she believes that celebrity's have power? A lot of them seeem to agree that they have power.

If this is your idea of power, how does this fit into the idea that being tied to Bush makes you powerful and deserving to be on the list when other people already do these things without having any ties to Bush? Again, why don't they put all these celebrities on the list when they too can command those types of attention?

The list was about the powerful, not the methods of how they obtained power.

What you're describing is not power. At most, it's inspiration and infatuation. Inspiration you can choose to take or leave. Laura's fashion statements will have no effect on me whatsoever because I doubt we share the same taste in clothes. She likely inspires those within her age range. If laura wears prada, I don't have to wear it. If I choose not to wear prada, nothing is going to happen to me. So exactly, WHERE is this power?

Do you expect the power to be in a gun, where Mrs. Bush can have you shot, if you do not wear prada?

I thought Dr. Kings power was in the form of inspiration?

But when Bush assigns an Alito to the Supreme Court, when he sends my friends to Iraq, when an increasing portion of my paycheck is spent on gas, cause the price is so high due to war in Iraq, I feel the gravity of Bush's power.
In any case, I think I've made my points clear enough.
Cheers.

Sure. But your in America. You'll live. Other people got real problems.

Ciaralover,

Isa 45:5 I am Jehovah, and there is none else, no God besides Me; I clothed you, though you have not known Me;
Isa 45:6 that they may know from the rising of the sun, and to the sunset, that there is none besides Me. I am Jehovah, and there is none else;
Isa 45:7 forming the light and creating darkness; making peace and creating evil. I Jehovah do all these things.

Mer-c,

Yeah, I understand that too.

Nia,

Whatever the white house dog is named that this will become a popular name for dogs and maybe kids all over the country.

The name brands the president or the first lady use, are sometimes kept in secrecy or else it could make or break a company's product which they do not use.

That it is said that having a picture of you and the president it is worth 10 million dollars to your company.

How could it be said then that Mrs. Bush is not powerful?

There are designers right now, praying that Mrs. Bush please wear the dress or shoes that they gave her as a gift. They know what it could do for their product around the world.

Mer-c,

I suggest that you break it off with this person.

Listen to your parents.

Save yourself a lot of headaches.

You do not need a person to be your twin before you go with them but some things are just going to lead to big misery down the road.

Religion is one of them, despite all the promises of youth and love that it will never happen between you two.

Grace is unrelated to anything the reciever has done.

Mercy is despite what the reciever has done.

I believe God created evil. Because I believe the bible.

However, does George Bush need to go to Iraq and pick up a gun to kill Iraqi's?

Of course not.

Neither does God need to come down and put you in a wheel chair.

I believe just as the Jews do. Satan works for God.

As the bible says: I have created the wicked for my own purposes.

Understand this:

God does not have to do any evil to you.

He can just move away from you.

Where there is no light, there is darkness.

Afeni,

If this topic was meant to be our genuine knowledge of God, regardless of the bible.

You would not have tried to denigrate the bible, or our faith, or our relationship with God or dictate what we could use to show how we know God or why we love him, in such a fashion.

Knowing that your just waiting to prance on anything I or another Christian says and tear it to pieces.

I'm not willing to give some of my most intimate knowledge to someone, who will just turn and tear it and me to pieces.

I can answer the question without using the bible. I just need a certain level of sincere interest in my most intimate details of my relationship with the Creator of the Earth.

Instead all I have from you is a sure expectation that my experience is going to be denigrated.

What I do know for a fact is that she holds the title of MRS. BUSH. She is legally married to Bush. And because she is OFFICIALLY MRS. BUSH, she is considered powerful. She can be a terrible home maker and a bad mother, maybe she smokes weed and shoot up etc, All that is irrelevant. But to be considered powerful because of her title is what I disagree with. Hope that's clearer.

Nia,

Thank you. Let me try to stick as closely as to what you said.

Question:

Why do you disagree with Mrs. Bush being considered powerful because of her title?

For me, that's me, I think each and every person with even half a title around President Bush, has a certain amount of power.

Mrs. Bush of course shares in this power that surround her husband and what her life has been dedicated to for the last 30+ years, I'm sure, as a political wife.

She has been doing the same political show for 30+ years along with President Bush.

It's not like she had a singing career and Mr. Bush's dabbling in politics was not that important in her life.

One person did not make it to the whitehouse based on one persons career. This was a team project, politics demands it in America.

She deserves to be on the list and be considered powerful.

My thinking about this world has led me to believe that the Tribulation is already here.

Rev 6:2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

All the continents and nations of the world have been conquered.

Rev 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.

2 World wars in the 20th century.
Communist wars killed even more 20th century.
Wars of liberation in 20th century.

Rev 6:5 And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand.
Rev 6:6 And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.

33,000 people die per day of starvation
Rich countries parasitic towards poor countries
Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer

Rev 6:7 And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see.
Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

This is like a cumulation scripture showing all of that before and more that is happening today.

We should add about the 'beasts' of the earth

Mad cow disease
Mad deer disease
Mad wolf disease
West Nile


Rev 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?


Christians being killed for thier beliefs in God. China, Korea, Sudan, Nigeria, Morroco, others.
Just had on news 3 christian churches bombed in Iraq.
Also in Gaza/westbank it used to be a lot christian but because of persecution, christians are now very small minority,etc

Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

This is about where we stand and this is going to come soon true, America has lots of christians gearing up to kill other christians who do not believe like them:

Apostles and Prophets movement has said if you do not accept thier leadership, then you are follower of witchcraft.

Christians from Rushdooney world (who is a darling of republican party) who believes that the sword and the pen work hand in hand.

Dominionist--who believe that Christians have to take back the world for Christ before christ can come back.

Christians who now believe that voting against the republican party is voting for devil.

This is about where the world stands now in the Tribulation .

Let me add these also:

Rev. 17

The alliance between the 'LovePeddler' (false church) and the 'beast' is already here. America being the beast and the Christian churches supporting the governments every killing around the world being the 'LovePeddler'.

Rev. 18

The horrible economic system is already here. Whether Capitalism or Socialism or Islamic, all economic systems have thier God and all Kill in the name of making money.

The Tribulation is already here. And either you have been "Left Behind" or the rapture is further out.

I have sometimes called this period: "The beginning of sorrows", But it is described in Chapter 6 of revelations, which means it is past chapter 4 of revelation, where the pre-trbi rapture is supposed to have happenned already.

To add:

The church on the right:

God of mammon: prosperity gospel

The church on the left:

God is a man: psychology gospel

The Falling away has happenned.


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2Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

I believe this has already happenned, the one who withholdeth has been taken out of way.

Tsunami, Earthquake in pakistan, Katrina revealing who America really is in charecter towards the poor.

The piggish gorging of rich men, in tax cuts, in kickbacks through environmental bills, medicaid programs, bankruptcy bills, etc. Cutting help to the poor, laborers, while promising rich people bigger gains.


Not many people realize that treatment of the poor is tied to the end times:

Pro 30:14 There is a generation, whose teeth are as swords, and their jaw teeth as knives, to devour the poor from off the earth, and the needy from among men.

Not many people notice that nation's were ended in the Old Testament and treatment of the poor is sited as a reason.

Israel:

Amo 2:6 Thus saith the LORD; For three transgressions of Israel, and for four, I will not turn away the punishment thereof; because they sold the righteous for silver, and the poor for a pair of shoes;

Sodom & Gommorha:

Eze 16:49 Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

I believe this is why we see no restraint in the harm to the poor of the earth at this time.

Ecc 3:18 I said in mine heart concerning the estate of the sons of men, that God might manifest them, and that they might see that they themselves are beasts.

God is allowing our own heart to be revealed to us in this time. He is letting us get naked and reveal that we are no more than beasts, who do not help thier weak but most often tear them apart.

The Tribulation:

The beginning of sorrows
The abomination of desolation
The Great Tribulation

The Israelite history:

Slavery in Egypt
Captivity in Babylon
Only a remnant left

The Church History:

Early persecution
Holy Roman Empire
The Falling Away

How many times had I heard it preached: "My people perish for a lack of knowledge."

With the interpretation being, that if people only KNEW the truth, they would follow it.

In reality the rest of the scripture says this:

Hos 4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children.

God's people purposely REJECT knowledge. It's not that they lack it, they just refuse to believe it.

People tend to reject knowledge particularily if it comes against the "religious tradition, doctrine or prophecy" they have been taught and believed for a long time.

At least that is what the bible shows in regards to the Pharisees et al.

Mar 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

How to become an Mature Christian:

1. The Bible must be your first authority. This means that you will not believe nor think contrary to what is honestly revealed in scripture, to you.

2. For you scripture must not have private interpretations. So no claiming you can not see that Jesus was crying, when you read the scripture that says: Jesus Wept.

3. Realize that fruit grow, they do not appear. Do not use the bible to beat up other Christians who have not gotten there yet. Teach until you can teach no more and then let them be.

4. You must resist sin to the blood. This means you never publicly give yourself an excuse for sin. Your words should always be such that you say you regret and are trying to turn away from sin. No trying to biblically justify sin, just be sorrowful and honest about sin.

5. Do not return evil for evil. Return Good for evil. When called an name or your faith/honesty/spirit is called into question. Do not respond to this point. Do not defend yourself.

6. Do not prostitute the word of God. Do not use the word to back up your sin, your error. Lose the debate rather than use the word incorrectly and in vain.

7. Do not commit the sin of presumption. Do not say the Lord said, when the Lord has not said. Do not tell people they are going to hell or to heaven. Do not use the Lord's name as an brand name endorsement of what you want to do.

lioness,

Bingo!

This is why the world loves to make movies about the anti-Christ and the devil and 666 and such.

It's easy to talk about and think about and laugh about the devil's coming to the world.

It's harder to deal with the real King's coming.

iice,

The far more interesting question is:

How does God let evil get in this world?

The bible is clear about it but I do not think many Christians get it.