I’m not surprised at your shallow head...

Everyone on Nl no get shallow brain like you...

You think you con out screenshots of places where I insulted you without posting what you did prior to that and you feel people will swallow it hook line and sinker ?

Thank God I have explained all events prior to whatever screenshot you posted and people doing business here are knowledgeable...

Continue with your shameless and false accusations...

You will meet your Waterloo and Sebi you get business too... by the time I start with you, another payback will make you come here to cry again...

The mods have been fully briefed abt all that happened and the truth shall prevail ...


YOUR FALSE ACCUSATIONS WONT STOP ME FROM DOING BUSINESS AND HAVING CUSOMERS




You are so petty, we are complaining about 1. you have started another one. Gosh.. where u come from?

You deserve some serious koboko ... person wey dem teach for house wey no hear, na outside dem dey teach am.

Again, Nairaland, Seun , the others, I thank you o. this one won't hear word until he jam it.... and no be my time or money he go waste.

I wish us all the very best of luck!.. muchas gracias..

HazzanTazzan:


A typical tout...

I know Ure an unrepentant failure ...

Deep down you know Ure just crying all over nairaland cos I simply served you a piece of your cake... payback dey pain more ... I just confirmed

Continue ...

I hope you realize your customers will see that they are all touts and failures ( thank God am no longer one of them). once you deal with this young man, you become a tout and a failure. and on top of that, he'll insult you from head to toe, just because he caused a charge back. Up till now, in all of my messages, I haven't called him any names, but back to back, he must just behave like a street rat. and must use gutter words to express himself.

If you block him for insulting you, so you won't take the insult anymore. As shown in the screen shot below. but had a second though, after he threatened you in the second screen shot, that he'll do charge back, take note the reason for the insult is due to charge back which he originally caused.

When there is a future charge back, my brother, na one chance be that o. you'll be lucky if you'll get your money back, cos 7 days after his own 'supplier' as refunded him, he'll not only hold on to your money, but also blackmail you to bring down a complaint that made him calm down in the first place.

Young man, thank your stars. As I am typing to you now. some people are hiding from me, just because of 2-3 phone calls, and transfer, na my office i dey write statement, and las las, they'll still pick them up. and kirikiri sure pass. I don't need to brag cos you didn't harm me, it's a problem from your background, thats why you don't know how to address people, but be careful how you throw threats around. you don't know me, why will you be messing up my name with my suppliers. calm down, you no gree, you dey para... na rope dem go use tie you las las.

God will help you, I will see any charge-back again, na the entire $20k your family go dey run up and down to beg me to collect back. then your eyes go clear say khaki no be leather... cos i dey beg use style beg you for here.. hmm...

HazzanTazzan:


I’ve never denied my responsibility as the person who sold to him and this is why I acted quick to resolve the issue ...

My anger is just that I didn’t cry foul when he blocked me but he’s here making a scene cos I blocked him...

He shld realize that what goes around comes around ...

I will send his cash and if he wishes, he can continue the accusations and blame me that I intentionally charged back his funds even when he has the evidence ....

Thanks a lot @negro1...

Highly disappointed in everyone called by dtraveler to weigh in on this matter ...

He can now see that nobody bloody cares about anybody’s business... he shld have simply texted me like I did when he blocked me ...

Cheers

MODIFIED: his full cash for the disputed fund sent to his acct ... peace

Well, fly wey go follow dead body enter ground .. e no dey hear word.

And you think people don't care. hmmm... ok o

Nairaland. Thank you very much. . funlord..Tabbaz.. negro1.. Thank you very much o... he's refunded my money o...

did you block me before while i had money with you?

I actually did, when you insulted me like you are used to doing to all your customers and as someone who is not used to been insulted. attached is a screen shot, but also, within a few minutes I unblocked you.

secondly, in all of our transactions, I have always paid within 24hours max. in fact, nothing more than the same day, but my only request is for the supplier to confirm exactly how much entered, because a lot of time you don't factor that into the final figure. and also supplier to confirm the money is not on hold. but I have never held your payment longer than these reasons. if you have anything else saying otherwise, please show proof.

if i block you same way, why are you so pained to come here and accuse me rather than man up and text me via sms same way i did when you blocked me back then?

The context is different. whereas I blocked for insulting me, and also unblocked you minutes after.

You blocked me for complaining about what you got paid for. Its either you don't understand the implication of your actions to your business and cannot separate your emotions from business. or you are yet to grow up. cos, I never met you, I never seen you and don't have any means to communicate with you. you shouldn't joke with anything that stains your reputation, but what did you do?.. you went ahead to block me!... who does that? and your blocking was for days... not minutes like mine.

i dont insult my clients at will unless i get provoked to the point with your own insults at me...

Yeah right... on this thread alone, how many times even during my complaints did I throw any insults, how many times have you called me stupid, silly?... go and count...

i asked dtraveler to pull down all these accusations as i already proved with a screenshot that i had no hand in the dispute ...

rather than pull it down and stop, he even did more ...

Why will I pull it down?... please why?. I sent you a charge back complaint, you blocked me. what else am I supposed to do?.. up till now you are just telling me stories, you kept my money in your account.

my sincere apologies to zdoh cos i eventually mentioned him here and im not supposed to cos he refunded the cash for the fund in a very short time.

what happened here is very interesting. so, you said you complained to someone else who sold you the funds right? Did he block you?

if zdoh blocked you and didn't refund you, wouldn't you come here to complain?... but you have kept my own money for 7 days. and put my reputation with my supplier at disrepute. yet you even have the effrontery to ask me to pull down the complaint. I mean, Think about it for a second.

Dtraveler I can understand your frustration when been disappointed, I've been there, I'm still there. However you claimed you have transacted over $20k successfully with him, which was not disputed. Why throw away that long business relationship over an amount that's not upto 5% of 20k. Note, I'm not saying you should forego or forget, nor am I saying the figure is not significant. I'm saying why not seek an amicable resolution now rather than throw away an established relationship.

You can see the words he used to qualify me. I don't think anyone has called me silly or stupid or fool in the last 10years. It's hard to beat that. Frankly, they are hard words to swallow.

Also he claimed he sent you a screenshot confirming that the seller pulled out, and not him. While this should be none of your business, but you could also show some empathy, as a business person yourself, you'll know that situations beyond your control can happen.

He only shared that screen shot after he blocked me and I came here to complain, he didn't show me any screen shot before, and frankly, I didn't even go through it. the reason is that he needs to deal with his suppliers better, I know what I do to deal with mine.


I sincerely appreciate your thoughtfulness.

My Suggestion: I think y'all can still salvage this situation by resolving this and any other issue. I'm not exactly sure of who is holding whose cash. But I'll suggest you guys should net off all unresolved transactions, dtraveler should be given the naira he paid for the disputed fund and if there's any balance, it should bs sent accordingly. HazzanTazzan if you can, you could also throw in some sort of discount in the next transaction. Someone buying 1k today can buy 50k next month, don't chase clients away, well not this one.

Thank you for your kind suggestion.

Tabbaz:
I'm lost here. Let's be concise and direct. Too many posts will only derail readers from getting the gist.

What I understand so far, dtraveler accused hazzan of fund chargeback. Hazzan claimed it was 3rd party that charged back and accept to pay back naira. Anything else to this case?

Dominique
Mynd44
Puskin

Simple as that, he's my banking details and hasn't refunded in 6 days, and also, I don't want any more charge-backs, it's affecting my relationship with my suppliers. He's sold me the funds and I have paid for it. NO more charge backs.

Lol... I thot u said I chargedback the fund based on my threat...

U seem not to understand English... blackmail isn’t only for a return of money...

False accusation can also be termed blackmail is you’re gaining something from it...

Biggest PayPal buyer grin, when you have time, sort all the false accusations you made here and I’d send your cash...

At least, I sent you screenshot immediately the exchanger sent me the cash and I told you to drop your bank details but right now, if you keep this accusations on, I won’t only delay the cash, I will severely deal with your business ... I’m warning you ...

If you feel you have the luxury of falsely accusing me of scamming you cos my business is online, you shld realize that offline businesses also can be dealt with...

I won’t reply you anymore till you get sense ...

People presently buying PayPal from me in thousands can never complain that I’m rude to them cos they respect me and respect themselves ...

Unlike you that open your gutter to talk to people anyhow as if you employed them...

Facts are facts and cannot be distorted.

Everyone here can see you for what you are.

if you keep this accusations on, I won’t only delay the cash, I will severely deal with your business ... I’m warning you ...

You are a very funny young man. It only takes me 2-3 phone calls, and bank transfer to get you into the trouble that you'll feel the heat for the next 2years of your life. Ogun state jurisdiction is under zone 2. Don't make me shock you. I won't look back and again, it's not necessary since you are still communicating, but don't take my simplicity for granted.

Now, I have to get back to work.

[quote author=HazzanTazzan post=77981636]

@zdoh I really hate to bring you into this issue but this petty guy claims refunding cash isn’t enough and he’s hell bent on blackmailing me ...

Can you kindly confirm to him that I bought the fund from you and it was one of your suppliers that messed up the fund....

Whoever you procured your funds from is your business, did I tell you how I got the naira to pay you?

@tabbaz Dominique if after confirmation by Zdoh, this dtraveler guy continues this blackmail rubbish and doesn’t bring down this blackmail thread, I will make sure he sees hell for his stupidity ...

Cos it’s clear that he just wants to blackmail me for whatever reason known to him...

blackmail
/ˈblakmeɪl/
noun
noun: blackmail

1.
the action, treated as a criminal offence, of demanding payment or another benefit from someone in return for not revealing compromising or damaging information about them.

Uncle Alimi, you are the one with my money, how is it that you are being blackmailed?.. you are the one comfortable with calling your customers stupid, fool, idiot, silly, sick and all manner of unprintable names, something even your own family will deal with you over, you are the one who is directly or indirectly (as you claim) responsible not only for one charge back, so how is this black mail. You are the one who when a complaint came into your whatsapp, you found a perfect moment to block your customer who paid you 100% for that value. and you are the one who has now held on to the refunds for 1 week, since you said the funds as been refunded to you. You have refused to pay back. Excuse me sir, you need to go back to school. But before you do, kindly refund me, I have over 50 colleagues who need my attention. You are distracting my attention, I don't have the luxury of time like you think. Kindly refund what I paid you since you are now a professional charge-back person, so I can move on with my life. Biko, na beg I dey beg.

HazzanTazzan:



You are mad ...

In fact... continue the blackmail and let me Deal with you and your business ... you will realize the power of a blogger ...

1. Haven’t I sent you screenshot with the slexchanger who refunded the cash for the fund? Doesn’t that confirm to you that I had nothing to do with the dispute ? Of course you saw that already but your sneaky personality and idiotic nature still insists on blackmailing me...

2. You’re angry I blocked you ? Now answer his single question...

Did you block me while my cash was with you or not ?
Did I send that threat sms after that or not ?

Idiot... you claimed there was no means to contact me after I blocked you ?

You don’t have my number? You cldnt text me?

Didn’t I text you when you also blocked me back then?

You’re just a petty idiot with lack of business etiquettes


Hahaha ... see this idiot claiming number one or biggest buyer with his petty 20k$...

It will shock you to hear bigger clients who have bought 100s of thousands of dollars from me without blackmailing me for any reason and still buying...

Do you even know how many $ I’ve sold after I told you never to contact me again?

You really think big of yourself...

So fool of yourself ...

Who uses words like Fool, idiot, silly, sick, stupid?... Who?...

From all of the deductions above, you are behind the charge-back, can I get my refund now?...anyone who likes charge-backs and getting the police and lawyer or coming here to be discussing business or better still likes to be called stupid, and fool and silly can continue dealing with you.

House, kindly ask this young man when I can get my refund ? Since he got it almost a week ago what has stopped him from sending it back? or he's decided to be a full fledged criminal by taking my money?

In fact, I just checked why I blocked you.

And it was because of reason no. 1. You were very rude.

You had the audacity to ask the status of your sickness. as if I was your doctor.

Nkhay
Modath
hazzantazzan
Ibraheem
Funlord
Bookiemart
Marieso
Bless01
ladyf
Tabbaz

[quote author=HazzanTazzan post=77968252]Cc Dominique tabbaz Bookiemart funlord

I want you guys to read all his accusations and blackmail carefully and read my response and tell this dude to stop dragging my name in the mud...

He stated my offenses as :

1

. I threatened chargeback ... why did I? Cos he withheld my money and blocked me and refused to pay me ..

.

Withheld your money?

When have I ever withheld your money. Whenever you sold funds to me, the only request is to confirm from supplier, your payments has NEVER ever been delayed beyond 24hours. Other sellers like Nkhay can come and state if this is true or false.

Show me a screen shot where your payment was held beyond 24hours. Else, keep quiet.

2. I charged back funds as threatened... true or false ? It has been confirmed by the exchanger who sold the fund to me and the exchanger can conform to everyone that I had nothing to do with the dispute... the exchanger also refunded the cash to me and I’m ready to refund the cash to this guy ...

You are ready to return the cash . You keep pushing blame to other people. why should there be a chargeback, did I pay you so you can refund me, or didn't I pay you full value? so if I paid for something I should be expecting to return it back anytime, after I have fully paid for it. so you are in business to be refunding abi. why haven't you refunded since 6 days?... why? is it your money?...

3. I blocked him... why? Cos he did same to me in the past...

I lodged a complaint that shook the foundation of your business, your reputation and all you can do is to block me. I have bought over $20kUSD from you within a space of 3 months and had a complaint of $300+ and the only thing you can do is to block me?.. without saying anything?... knowing fully well there is no other form of communication?... anyone who deals with you, is doing so at his own peril, because what it means is that when there's a complaint, you'll block them. keep blocking..

Think carefully, if I am not your number 1 biggest buyer, I will worst be in top 3. Any big buyer shouldn't deal with you. because you are quick to insult, you are quick to block. Unless they want to be wasting time.

I also put it to you that you are responsible for the charge-backs, because thats what you stated in your original message. You do it to get back at customers like me who don't waste time to put you in your position. but like I said, don't angry me.

I sincerely apologies for the late feedback, I will do more to be able to resolve here. as stated my accusations are clear cut

1. The young man is very rude.
2. The young man as stated he'll do chargebacks on over 45 transactions.
3. The young man abuses his position in a transaction. for example, he's comfortable with doing chargebacks.

U deducted the cash for that chargeback coz I had money pending with you...

Kindly refer to attached image screen shot.

You sold me a fund during the process there was a charge back, as the screen shot shows, you asked me to deduct it. I didn’t deduct it without your authorization.

Now u sent me a msg today that a chargeback occurred... I refused to respond cos even if I respond and tell you how we solve the issue, you will refund it rather than respond to the dispute ...

- The Paypal account doesn’t belong to me personally, I don’t know what you want me to say. Listen, this is business, you best understand the risk of your business and liabilities too. In my small business alone I have 4 accountants. And none of them can touch the money. There is accounts receivables and payables. Which is even different from audit/control. Cashiers cannot take money out or do anything. Money only goes in, no way out.
- I have stated above already, the Paypal belongs to a company, I only used my influence of knowing the owner of the company for over 15years to ask them to distribute funds to factories on my behalf.
- I pay you 100% or will GTB come back to collect the money from you. You do the same, send payment and let me sleep. I don’t have control of defense. And on top of that, Paypal will request for tracking, without it, case closed. No defense from here. Zero defense. Simple.

Coming here to accuse me that I threatened chargeback and bow charged back is not only silly but also stupid...

Told you. Very rude.


Finally, he said he's been refunded, but he's saying the facts here should be deleted.... I don't understand him?.. so now he's still threatening and holding on to what he got a refund for. he's very funny. As I stated, I know what to do to get my funds the hard way. But it will cost me time and money neither of which I have. Even to complain here was out of being pissed. Please do not do any more charge-backs, it's a stain on my reputation, I beg you please, secondly, do not hold what doesn't belong to you. I never delayed your payments beyond any necessary time limits. Finally, stubbornness has never helped anyone cos the law only recognizes equity and justice.


I will reach out to those who have offered their services. My volume is about to increase even more. and I welcome many more offers. Thank you.

Nkhay
Modath
hazzantazzan
Ibraheem
Funlord
Bookiemart
Marieso
Bless01
ladyf
Tabbaz

Between Jan till Date. I transacted exactly 20,353.99USD paypal PP with @HazzanTazzan and paid him in full 100%

Then came the first charge back, then second one. my Chinese supplier is only helping me to receive and distribute to factories, I can't ask them to be defending payment I sent. I made this clear to him that charge back are his responsibility, as long as when I do bank transfer and he gets his full payment. Part of the reason why he is a broker is not give me headaches, but to make sure his sellers are in check. I can easily come here to buy just like he does and save the extra 15-20Naira he makes.

I stopped transacting with him because 1. he's very rude. He's quick to insult, and I can't take that especially not from someone I am paying 2. he threatened to do a bulk charge-back on previous transactions.

Yesterday, my supplier notified me of another charge back. and I notified him. Could you believe this young man actually blocked me?... which means he's actually started fulfilling his promise to do charge backs since I stopped trading with him for the above 2 reasons.

He actually blocked me?... so, it means I paid for for zero value. and he gets paid for it.

I actually know what to do to get him to pay back offline, but it'll cost me a bit of time and money. and I really don't like to waste time or money, unless as a last resort, and I also don't like to hurt people. Please let him know this is a criminal case against the CP. I know the law very well and can easily apply it. This will get him into prison because once I start, I won't go back, his family will beg and nothing will change. It'll be late then because he'll pay me all expenses plus interest, I know what I am talking about because I have been involved not once in such instances. So, now, I am begging him:

Please help me beg him. I am using his wife, daughter, God and all of what he believes in to beg him that, I have fully paid, my supplier won't defend anything on paypal because there is no proof of shipment to the sender and worst still he's only helping to distribute to other factories, and not getting paid for this, and this is really putting my reputation at risk.

He should understand the risk of the business he is in. and he's there to provide value not excuses.

Lets be clear, regular exchange rate is like: 360. this is not worth it with all of this wahala. His reputation is also tarnishing other players. it's because it's fast and convenient, if not,.... the difference is less than 7%.

Meanwhile, I still need a very good supplier who give me no issues. In fact, right now, I need at least $5k pp.

Kindly quote me with your contact. But note, NO chargebacks and must be ready to sign a MOU to that effect.

Nkhay
Modath
hazzantazzan
Ibraheem
Funlord
Bookiemart
Marieso
Bless01
ladyf
Tabbaz

Between Jan till Date. I transacted exactly 20,353.99USD paypal PP with @HazzanTazzan and paid him in full 100%

Then came the first charge back, then second one. my Chinese supplier is only helping me to receive and distribute to factories, I can't ask them to be defending payment I sent. I made this clear to him that charge back are his responsibility, as long as when I do bank transfer and he gets his full payment. Part of the reason why he is a broker is not give me headaches, but to make sure his sellers are in check. I can easily come here to buy just like he does and save the extra 15-20Naira he makes.

I stopped transacting with him because 1. he's very rude. He's quick to insult, and I can't take that especially not from someone I am paying 2. he threatened to do a bulk charge-back on previous transactions.

Yesterday, my supplier notified me of another charge back. and I notified him. Could you believe this young man actually blocked me?... which means he's actually started fulfilling his promise to do charge backs since I stopped trading with him for the above 2 reasons.

He actually blocked me?... so, it means I paid for for zero value. and he gets paid for it.

I actually know what to do to get him to pay back offline, but it'll cost me a bit of time and money. and I really don't like to waste time or money, unless as a last resort, and I also don't like to hurt people. Please let him know this is a criminal case against the CP. I know the law very well and can easily apply it. This will get him into prison because once I start, I won't go back, his family will beg and nothing will change. It'll be late then because he'll pay me all expenses plus interest, I know what I am talking about because I have been involved not once in such instances. So, now, I am begging him:

Please help me beg him. I am using his wife, daughter, God and all of what he believes in to beg him that, I have fully paid, my supplier won't defend anything on paypal because there is no proof of shipment to the sender and worst still he's only helping to distribute to other factories, and not getting paid for this, and this is really putting my reputation at risk.

He should understand the risk of the business he is in. and he's there to provide value not excuses.

Lets be clear, regular exchange rate is like: 360. this is not worth it with all of this wahala. His reputation is also tarnishing other players. it's because it's fast and convenient, if not,.... the difference is less than 7%.

Meanwhile, I still need a very good supplier who give me no issues. In fact, right now, I need at least $5k pp.

Kindly quote me with your contact. But note, NO chargebacks and must be ready to sign a MOU to that effect.

Nkhay
Modath
hazzantazzan
Ibraheem
Funlord
Bookiemart
Marieso
Bless01
ladyf
Tabbaz

Between Jan till Date. I transacted exactly 20,353.99USD paypal PP with @HazzanTazzan and paid him in full 100%

Then came the first charge back, then second one. my Chinese supplier is only helping me to receive and distribute to factories, I can't ask them to be defending payment I sent. I made this clear to him that charge back are his responsibility, as long as when I do bank transfer and he gets his full payment. Part of the reason why he is a broker is not give me headaches, but to make sure his sellers are in check.

I stopped transacting with him because 1. he's very rude. He's quick to insult, and I can't take that especially not from someone I am paying 2. he threatened to do a bulk charge-back on previous transactions.

Yesterday, my supplier notified me of another charge back. and I notified. Could you believe this young man actually blocked me?... which means he's actually started fulfilling his promise to do charge backs since I stopped trading with him for the above 2 reasons.

He actually blocked me?... so, it means I paid for for zero value. and he gets paid for it.

I actually know what to do to get him to pay back offline, but it'll cost me a bit of time and money. and I really don't like to waste time or money, unless as a last resort, and I also don't like to hurt people. Please let him know this is a criminal case against the CP. I know the law very well and can easily apply it. This will get him into prison because once I start, I won't go back, his family will beg and nothing will change. It'll be late then because he'll pay me all expenses plus interest, I know what I am talking about because I have been involved not once in such instances. So, now, I am begging him:

Please help me beg him. I am using his daughter, wife , God and all of what he believes in to beg him that, I have fully paid, my supplier won't defend anything on paypal because there is no proof of shipment to the sender and worst still he's only helping to distribute to other factories, and not getting paid for this, and this is really putting my reputation at risk.

He should understand the risk of the business he is in. and he's there to provide value.

Lets be clear, regular exchange rate is like: 360. this is not worth it with all of this wahala. His reputation is also tarnishing other players.

Meanwhile, I still need a very good supplier who give me issues. In fact, right now, I need at least $5k pp.

Kindly quote me with your contact. But note, NO chargebacks and must be ready to sign a MOU to that effect.

Modath
hazzantazzan
Ibraheem
Funlord
Bookiemart
Marieso
Bless01
ladyf
Tabbaz

OK

12345DKO:
Good morning Sir/Ma. How young?
Thank you

As young as he/she can be. We all 20+ employees have average age range of about 23, so. We are pretty young.

Recruited.

Akin Alabi na jobless man ba?

miqos02:
correct yourself please

Not necessary. The idea that someone wants to be employed without being tested is best expressed when they can make such a grammatical error.

So you want to teacher without being tested?

Location is: Ikeja, Off Oba Akran.

Pay structure is subject to negotiation. Thank you.

Recruited.

Role still available

The true used value is no more than; 15-17k.

Location is: Ikeja, Lagos.

diamondsare4eva:
Congrats dtraveler!

Bros, thanks, na una o....

It's been 4years I last applied.. Gosh.. i don dey old... but you guys made it... I really do appreciate you. Really, thanks...

Recruited.