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Lucifyre:
Man i can't even make head or tails of this your thesis😅.
Anyways like i said earlier where is the evidence for this your particular god and that this particular one created everything. Its very simple.

You are pretending you do not understand what has been prove because now you see you do not have any reasonable counter to this Truth which even you have impliedly admitted and confessed to

The evidence of God of the Bible is already standing and proven exactly as the evidence that proves Mr Toyoda is the god of the Toyota. It's as simple as that

ThatWriterBoy:
I see you. But then again, Nigerians have protested some laws they didn't fancy. Like the RUGA law. Or the CAMA bill. Or the one where we were going to be taxed some percentage for cyber protection or something.

Imagine if there was a law to kill all the male newborns of a certain tribe. I'm sure the tribes people would fight back.

Bandits are killing everyone in sight and Nigerians have not fought back.

danvon:
Why should they sue something everybody knows never happened, besides it's hard for countries to sue each other, Japan killed thousands of Chinese and Koreans but neither China nor Korea can sue them and Japan never apologized.

There is no way they would not complain or sue like Babalola and Farotimi, for something that is a Lie, and an embarrassing and a disgraceful one at that) that has lasted centuries and that will surely go on being broadcasted till the end of the world.

And no it is not hard, South Africa just sued Isreal,
Serbia and Montenegro sued United Kingdom etc.

Even at that complaint and objection is even easier and cheaper. And since back then till today, it has not been done. Exactly how a Afrocandy can never object nor complain at being called a prostitute nor Japan being called devils for what they did in China.

That is how it works, so your counter is invalid.

iamnotillicit:
Family heads not spiritual or political heads...

They won't need Moses if they had one already

Or military heads!

danvon:
Because the story is fictional and was written for propaganda reasons.

Egypt was one of the greatest civilizations at that time, writing about how your God humbled the great Egyptians for you is fantastic propaganda.

Ps: There is no historical evidence that hebrews were ever slaves en masse in Egypt.

Yet Egypt has never sued the propagandists and call them Liars. Please find another thing to say.

Solofresh2:
while explaining, take note of this.The soul in you is what makes you in the physical sense.Once your soul leaves your body, your body becomes useless.So tell me how can a soul which left your body into the sprit realm feels pain and happiness?

That is why I asked you those questions at the beginning,

"Then how do you feel the pain of heartbreak and joy when none of these things are even touching your flesh?"

which you avoided answering.

Lucifyre:
Its obvious the sacarsm went right over your head as usual, in your flawed analogy you highlighted the manufacturer of a particular car of which i showed you manufacturers of various cars, some even two manufacturers. I took you ur analogy further to highlight how flawed it is and painted the actual reality. So obvioulsy u have no evidence for this your particular god ergo go around in circles. Not like any of the other gods can be demonstrated either. End of story.

Look at your words. You yourself have given evidence admiting that most creations have only ONE creator and quite an exceptional few have 2.

No where do you show creations having even 5 creations not to talk of 10 or 100 or thousands.

And then you forget like your alignment shows creations and their creators are generally attached and named.

And no where do you see 2 God's laying claim and ownership over us as you yourself confirm by your statement "Not like any of the other gods can be demonstrated either." But only ONE GOD has been identified.

So you prove my case.

Solofresh2:
Only the living feel the pain of heartbreak and joy.The dead have no business with that.

You have shifted post. So now you can see you are wrong.

diamond68:
i don't understand your point

O men, where you sleeping when you said the soul is put in (downloaded) the body?it's your word na.

diamond68:
i don't see any contradictions

You said "hell in the soul" does that not mean that the soul directly feels the hell?

So how does it need a cloth called body to feel what it can already feel directly?

Do you not feel heat while naked? Yes.

So does it matter that you feel the heat even though you are clothed?

Lucifyre:
Yes yes, i agree Toyoda to Toyota, Benz & Daimer to Benz, Porshe to Porsche, Horche to Audi, so which of em, there have been 10,000+ gods identified through anthropology, which of em and how do you demonstrate that particular one😌

Since you agree then you can see that, it is only one creator each creation has.

So no one is looking for 1000 gods but only ONE GOD!

diamond68:
if you have no spiritual power you will be dead. It’s your battery pack

Why are you confusing yourself? Did you not say "soul is downloaded into a flesh"?

When you enter a car, you are still you!

My thoughts also save for after eating many buffets and hearing the party line of "celebration of life", well I'm happy to attend and to throw parties and joy under any excuse.

Life is boring so a little big small party is very much welcome.

The whites are cursed and depression is their food so, it is understandable if their is no excitement on their side of town. But black man blessed and a party man which is why the whites hate us and try to bring us down even worse than their cursed level.

So keep up the party else we will enter into the suicide depression stage the whites have been living in since the sweet 80's for us while it was bitter for them.

Unfortunately, Africa has entered that Cursed stage.

diamond68:
there is hell in the soul but you need a body to feel it

Do you not see how you are contradicting yourself?

Ah. Somebody is seeing.

Women always turn the tables on men in everything

Solofresh2:
Most times I want to believe that both our heaven and hell are here on earth and in the flesh.The spirit can't feel anything because it is not of the flesh.Its not in the physical form
So how can your spirit feel heavenly or be in hell when it can't feel?
If you want to get punished by the universe,it will be in the living form and if you deserve to feel heavenly it will still be in the living form

Then how do you feel the pain of heartbreak and joy when nothing is even touching your flesh?

Stop wanting to believe that is the meaning of delusion.

diamond68:
So a celestial soul is downloaded into a flesh , basically imprisoned in a flesh where it then starts to feel pain and then is subject to all kinds of pain and hardship and torture and afflictions. It feels the pains of lack and violence and disease and struggles etc. also has to contend with the insatiable desires of this demon called the flesh that walk it into all kinds of painful situations just to get its satisfaction and desires met. It’s like being trapped in hell. The body is the perfect hell. The flesh is a component of the biblical hell.

Who told you that it did not feel them before?

Is it on your penis you first feel hornny?

There is hell on the flesh as there is in on the soul. That is what the bible is Saying and that the one in spirit is worser.

Sterope:
Do you you understand what creation means?

Do you not see that you are talking to a mad person?

Stephen0mozzy:
You don't. You only think you know

We do!

Exactly how you knew before hand how the beach and swimming will be even though we have never been there.

Or how you knew a woman would be sweet/no sweet even though you have not yet fvcked her.

Stephen0mozzy:
The only thing we know for certain is that we're alive in this moment.

The topic of the afterlife has always puzzled humans from time immemorial, we only just have more vocabulary for saying the same thing.

But what we can deduce from all of man's effort to console or excuse himself for how he lives is that WE DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING FOR SURE.

Until science can hold itself to account by the same yardstick it holds other "superstitions" - the need of evidence to back any claim - we're all just guessing.

We know for sure exactly how you fore knew how the beach and swimming will be even though you have never entered it

Sterope:
People that can't create life have a lot to say about what life, death and afterlife is.

Jokes on you!

We did not create water and yet we foresensed how swimming will be.

Same thing for fire. We also foresensed how burning will be and that is why evil people must be afraid of hellfire.

lordm:
Nobody knows

Everybody knows that is why they are 99% are afraid of death and a 1% are happy when it arrives.

UncleAyo:
I personally believe that death marks the end of conscious existence. Once the brain ceases to function, all experiences, thoughts, and awareness also come to an end. The cessation of brain activity, as observed in medical and scientific contexts, supports the conclusion that consciousness is inextricably tied to the physical brain. As such, no brain activity means no self-awareness or ability to experience anything beyond death.

The phenomenon of death is just like our state of nonexistence before birth. Before being conceived, one had no consciousness, no memory, and no self-awareness. Death is a return to that state of non-being. It is likened to a dreamless sleep or the absence of experience altogether.

There is no empirical evidence to support the existence of an afterlife, reincarnation, or any continuation of individual consciousness. Instead, life is a finite experience bound by the laws of biology and physics, so it is important you live your life to the fullest with the understanding that that is the only existence you have.

Somebody should please help me with evidence of afterlife. If possible, a video evidence that can be empirically examined.

_{Sterope (my good friend) your contribution will also be great here.}

Yet, the nearer you are to the death, the more your fear for death increases.

It clearly means that you are aware and conscious of what is going to happen to you after you enter death exactly how you were conscious that you are enter in death.

People in Coma, paralysis and Alzheimers show you that brain activity has little business with living.

CorrectionFLuid:
Oya explain what you mean by "you obi people". You're the one who brought this tag into this post.

Na I ma asụ Igbo does not mean na I bu onyé Igbo. Ife e ji abụ ónyé Igbo erika.

Amam! E geti point mu. I don't have to come from a tribe to speak against what I think is not good.

And my "you Obi people" was born from Obi"s comment supporting this wickedness as he reminded me that truly his people do this too.

But when I was talking both before and after no tribe was in mind for we all know this shit is done everywhere. So tribe is already automatically immaterial. Which is why you see no one is mentioning any tribe.

Lucifyre:
which god has been proven to exist and where is this proof of the existence of the particular god you talk about?

As there is only one Toyoda who created the Toyota and only one landlord created a house, so also is there only one God Whom everyone is talking about!

The king burns his own land and makes his own people enemies.

Yet they wonder why kingdoms fall like the south Korean king.

It's time for Africans to show that God made them free and that a king rules because they allow it.

No man owns the land.

CorrectionFLuid:
You brought tribe, and when I reminded you that even the man whose case prompted the post is Yoruba, you suddenly remembered it's not "tribe shit".

Yoruba continue agending you hear? Tufiakwa

You are the one being tribalistic here. Clearly you are feeling guilty that your tribe is guilty of these things whereas everyone here gets I don't care where anyone comes from. And clearly being the tribalists that you are, Yorubas are your enemies. Tufiakwa gi!
Ö wu everybody bu onye yuruba!

jaephoenix:
What was the proof

Not one proof but many different proofs given by people all landing on the fact that nothing in this world created itself, nor are they capable of creating themselves from nothingness into existence.

AND THIS IS A FACT EVERYONE, INCLUDING YOU ATHEISTS EVEN CONFIRM AND DO NOT DENY

Hence why the op said
"They argue that such sophisticated structures must be the result of a purposeful plan, conceived and executed by a divine creator."

And till tomorrow no atheists has been able to validly show and prove that this fact is not true.

And all arguments made in opposition are purely suggestive personal and private conjectures and fabrications created only for the purposes of arguments

Nor do they show any alternative established fact which reasonably and validly rebuts this settled fact. EXACTLY HOW AN ACCUSED SHOWN AND PROVEN BY EVIDENCE THAT HE COMMITTED A CRIME HAS THE DUTY AND BURDEN OF SHOWING AND PROVING BY REASONABLE ACCEPTABLE LAWFUL REBUTTIVE EVIDENCE THAT SHE DID NOT.

ABSENCE/FAILURE TO DO SO, IS CLEAR PROOF THAT HE IS GUILTY OF THE CRIME PROVEN Like the security guy accused of robbery who was given N100k by the robbers, yet he denies not being part of the robbery.

https://www.nairaland.com/8268329/how-lagos-high-court-sentenced#132895170

When his case came up no one believed him especially as he could not rebut the evidence pointing at him, despite his denial. And see even though people are trying to help him he still stands judged and guilty.

Unless they find reasonable rebutting evidence, he remains held by the evidence which ties him to the crime

So it is when you atheists try to argue against the solid proof of God.

All evidence point to the fact that this world was created by A Great Super Intelligent Living Person exactly how man has done and no other thing in this world whether plant or animals or insect or fish or bacteria or virus have created so beautifully and diversely like man, so also That Great Being called God has done like man.

And since man did not create himself, therefore it is man who is doing like His Creator,God.

So until you people have a reasonable and rebuttive established evidence, you people have nothing and the standing Proofs of God Remain the Final Judgement on this matter.

LordReed:
I pity the people that know you in real life.

hehehehe hehehehe
Yeah me too!

DrFunmisticGlow:
simple. The economy needs poor people.

Poor man being forced to marry is because he got the girl pregnant. Poor men should pick a struggle between poverty and lack of discipline. They will commit suicide when they can't bear the consequences of their actions.

This one is not a case of pregnancy na, read the the post and understand what it is about

Medici777:
nonsense. It’s not by force to have kids. It is all of God’s people in the bible that had kids?

For poor people it is understandable if they don't want to have kids but for rich people there has to be an explanation.

CorrectionFLuid:
What's with Yoruba and always using every opportunity to spread propaganda against the Igbo?

Even the man whose case is the example is Yoruba for goodness sake. Haba.!

No propa or tribe shit here It is all about wickedness of this action and if there is even a good reason it is done. And clearly there is none.