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gohf:
I think people forget God judges the heart even the act, and God isn't under any compulsion to accept every offering or tears, there was Esau, Saul.

God is the one who brings people to Jesus for safe keeping, and from Jesus words, Judas wasn't one of them.

You evangelize to some and they believe a lie that whenever they repent God will accept it, so to them it's not now let me enjoy my life first, so they constantly reject the voice of God calling them and they think they can find the way to salvation whenever they want.

Imagine someone saying with confidence on their death bed they will confess, even though they don't know when or how they will die.

They don't realize they are in devil's hands so they think they are wise

Exactly!

I observe a lot of people are planning on doing last minute repentance. They are in for the greatest shocks of their lives.

Afolue:
omo! Are you kidding..! Where God wan start from on judgement day! Is heaven and hell real.?

He Said He is starting backwards, so case go plenty and punishments go over plenty.

Let them go joor.

You were not there to stop the beast for raping them it is now that they have gotten relief you now want to act. Fire should burn those police animals

sreamsense:
That is why Jesus Christ promised that the Holy Spirit shall teach you all Truths. Paul was ordained by God to the Gentiles, he was not speaking of His own just like Jesus was not talking of his own when he said... it was not so from the biggning, but because of stiffness of isrealites, Moses made that law and God approved it for that time because he was an oracle of God. Paul was not speaking of himself. All scripture is for edification of the church, obey to the last letter.

As Peter said,.. texts in the Bible were not made up, it was what they witnessed and saw with their eyes and also inspired by the Holy Spirit. They heard God glorifying Jesus at Transfiguration mountain with their ears (not made up stories). It is different from Mohammad written fabricated testimonies about Jesus Christ (under guise of Quran) that came 600yrs after the apostle that witnessed, ate food, walked and worked with Jesus had gone. Even the grand-grand parents of Mohammad did not witness anything about Jesus unlike the apostles that wrote what they witnessed with their eyes.

Exactly

helinues:
Why should their be segregation in church? Ask yourself that question logically

The logical answer is we already know and understand why God abhors females and had kept them aside and away from His Head Office ever since, having seen all that they do.

https://www.nairaland.com/8305216/see-why-god-hates-women

helinues:
You know, alluding God into this is fake. If God did not say that, why are you religious people attributing so many things to him?

Is this topic not about church and bishop?

Everyone knows church and bishop are offices that belong to God. So God must be referred to for everything that is to be done there or is done there.

And God has already fore Spoken about these offices.

helinues:
Again, what brought madness into This conversation?

Did you get that preaching for your fairy tale books?

Where did God do that? Photos of him doing that?

Let reasonable come and judge and see if they would not say you must be mad

helinues:
Abeg stop.

Books written by human being like us.

Now you are changing post.

helinues:
What brought madness into this?
Intolerant religious people

I don't think I have seen you invite not sane people into a conversation. And I have definitely seen you complain that people should be reasonable.

So stand by your standards

Itesyn:
. Nevertheless I have a few things against you, because you allow that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, to teach and seduce My servants to commit sexual immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

-Revealation 2: 20
This is one of the letter to the seven churches In Asia and it clearly stated that it have something against that church because they allowed that woman to teach and to seduce

Because they allowed a woman even when no female was ever appointed priests or high priest.

helinues:
Where did God do that? Photos of him doing that?

If you have never read what God Commanded, then it's best you do so, if you truly want to know.

Photos? People always say that you are mad, is this true? Cos no sane person asks this.

sreamsense:
Op, don't misinterprete this: “I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.”

There is no time she and many female bishops I know exact authority over men. Someone like Pastor Funke focus on teaching women and submissive to her husband and never claimed she has authority over men in matter that concerns men. So, many of these women bishops have not really violated that passage of the scripture or have you heard are arguing with men in her local church over excersing authority over them or claiming superiority over them?

It is not Paul who laid this. Go and read The Laws and see if God ordained women to be chief priests or priests.

Clearly not a church of God but a church belonging to Satanists like Satanatum and co

helinues:
Are women no longer Human beings?

God chose only Levite males to serve Him, does it mean the rest of Isreal's men are not human beings?

Itesyn:
It is absolutely wrong because the Bible did not permit that, in the book of 1timothy 3:1-2 and it read, This is a faithful saying: If a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work?

Verse 2, A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach;
Verse specifically mentioned if a man desire, and verse 2 started mentioning the qualifications and it said it must be a husband of one wife which automatically removes women from such positions

Everytime you people are always saying Timothy, do you not see Revelations 2:20.

So this is an example of the Churches Christ Said He would be against.

Biggeststar01:
My question now is how did you draw that conclusion that god exists?

Many different angles point to Him.

Number 1: Law- All over the world, The Law supports the doing of the right and good eg good neighbourliness, love and condemns evil eg Murder, child abuse, armed robbery etc

If there was no God, then there will be nothing worldwide standard eg Natural Law and Natural Rights. Exactly how Landlord/House Owner sets how you should live in his house.

So we see God of the bible has set His Laws and Rules as The Landlord Owner of this House. Which is why this House always does His will.

2) Science- Science has proven that we are studying things already created. No man or science can study that which is not in existence.

Which is the impossibility you are trying to do when you ask the presumptive and speculative question "who created god?"

It leads to the question who told you that He was created since you were not there to know this?

And since it is not a fact you yourself have seen which is why you have ask the question.

So, clearly you have parted from the realm of science.

3) The earth obeys Him. See how God Said there would be a time that women cry "marry us, marry us". We can all see it is done.

4) His prophecies: Eg He ForeSaid the family unity would be destroyed and family members be enemies. This happened.

He ForeSaid Isreal will return to it's place in Gaza and in 1947 Isreal did.

So, you see, there are many proofs!

Biggeststar01:
So basically your analogy implies that everything that begins to exist, must have had a cause?

If so, then who created god?

No I do not imply that.

Like science we are only talking about the things we have seen and experienced.

And we have seen that SomeOne Whom we call God built this house we live in, allowing us to stay rent free.

And the question you asked was
"prove the existence of a god", which you yourself have acknowledged.

So now you are changing post to ask a different question and moving to a different issue and asking a presumptive question, which clearly means that this is not a fact you or I or anyone has seen, therefore out of the scope of science in asking "who created god?"

A reasonable person will tell you that you have left the issue you started and gone off point.

What you asked was proof of God and not proof of whether God was created or not. And that is not what you asked. So you are out of line.

ufotunang:
.. when the man is not there or available..they get a big cucumber 🥒to do the job 🙄

In those we heard it was candle they were using. Obviously that time many were virgins and the hole no too wide. 😁

But now dat e don wide dem upgrade go 🥒😁

helinues:
Answer the simple question and stop the quarter cleverness

It has been answered the way in my freewill I chose to answer it.

helinues:
Is There Free Will? Yes or No

Have we not already established that we have it by all the examples that I have made so far?

helinues:
So what exactly is your arguments about? Because you are only validation my initial thoughts

I have said it these 3 times "Free will is not the same as execution of your will.

Corrections:
Morning..

Take note.

Gentle does not mean lack of inability to harm.

helinues:
Honestly, you are just beating around the bush.

All the references you have been given are just repeating same thing that we dont have full capacity for free will

I told you, you are thinking execution. (Capacity)

We have will but the execution of our will is another matter.

And of course if we all could execute our wills, bank vaults will be empty, people's wives/husbands will be on strange beds and the whole world would be dead, all by the exercises of the powers of our wills

helinues:
Why is the person not having full potentials free will like others.

All these your examples are not even addressing the topic

Free will is free will whether you have 2 legs or lame.

Which is why I said "Free will is not the same as execution

You are thinking because you have will, it must be done. And hey, I will fuel to be N87 per litre and those days when $100 was N17000k. But, Tinubu no gree and he says that I should not think about kingship till 2031

As you can see he repented but God did not accept it.

We all know it is that evil phenomenon that falls upon a person after he has done evil and Satan leaves, that there eyes now open and "e don clear you" moment take place, like eve complaining "he beguiled me".

Too late. You cannot be forgiven!

helinues:
Foods? So the person was born to eat only food? Not making any contributions to the earth, universe ?

You knew I was making an example. Here is another one. He can choose one teacher in rejection of another. He can choose a rag doll over optimus prime transformer toy. He can choose maths over learning history

helinues:
Someone who was born with Dementia can never be regarded as someone with free will as the person is not the one in control of the thoughts

Now you are moving post to extremities.

Even someone with dementia still has free will to eat a certain type of food in rejection of another etc

helinues:
Bro those are just fringes of your free will. There are some part of our brain which makes decision by themselves without even needing conscious part. Those decisions are not free will

The decision of using left hand or right hand to carry something is not free will, your subconscious mind made the decisions seconds ago before the conscious decision .

Coming from bed, the first leg to take is not free will. You dont make such decisions

The free will is in the overall decision to walk or use your hands to do your will.

helinues:
I dont think so. Considering some of our behaviours that we struggle to understand even after being conscious about it. Those with different disorders didn't choose to be that way

Free will is not the same as execution.

We all will to fly and be bullet proof but we do not have the ability

Bookhub:
But the God doesn't not curse fornicators abi?..

He has already!
Why do you think people are unhappily married or divorced or are unable to marry or badly married?

See all the complaints on relationships and marriages, it shows you

Bookhub:
Dey play
Who uses intimacy gadgets the most?

This was when God's Curse and prophecy started to affect them in that now their usual service providers were drying up. And so now that they are still hungry and now they have to get creative.

EmmyMaestro:
Alot of them do it especially when they are having their bath.

They say if a woman is having her bath and singing especially if you stay in a compound, you'll notice it and she suddenly keeps quite, it means she is rubbing sponge on that place and feeling the sensation

hehehehe. Una dey observe ooo.

Biggeststar01:
I would say; science is “finding the truth”.

Science is the most scrupulous, unbiased method for truth-seeking that has ever being invented by men. Its purpose is to find out the truth about the universe, run rigorous tests on the discovered item, and set out to debunk it, just to make sure it’s correct.

I would love to hear your perspective though.

The bold already tells you. Science is only studying all the Things He Who is called God has finished creating.

Exactly how when cars, planes, phones were created and people were studying them and taking them apart and putting it together and all those experimental things.

So here, science is clearly playing catch up on the things God has long since finished creating and moved on to other things we do not know or we do not yet know or we shall never know.