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impeccablephili:
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The common sense you quoted gave you out, because common sense has to do with logic, and logic is an act of thinking right. With what you said above, logically how does surrogacy relates lust.

Now because of the bolded I see no reason to argue with you again.

"i pointed it out in my first response when I said
And thinking. more about it, since the seed is in her womb, therefore, she becomes the mother and therefore, she would be guilty of none sexual adultery"

And sorry Barreness is a sure sign that God has a cursed a person

Flangelo12:
Corroboration of sightings by who?

Are they authoritative?

Can they be named and cross-examined?

Or are they just nameless, anonymous characters?

Did you not see the independent testimony of the witnesses (posters) who confirmed sightings of this issue in the threads i pleaded?

Do you not see that posters are being examined and crosseexamined here if their reports are suspected to be Lies or have some fallt in them?

You have no valid argument to make especially as you have now moved post from corroboration to cross examination and now you have to move post yet again, because you still can not find any reasonable andI lawful ground to nullify the evidence i have given.

Note: You are getting farther and farther away from the issue, so you are losing your case.

LeeSmart:
Bros stop dis kind talk....u're not talking from scientific point i guess

Science still started with the use of eyes and observations and conducting investigations. which have also been confirmed by other investigators and reports.

Flangelo12:
Opinions are not conclusive evidence.

Surely, even you must have the intelligence to understand this.

Sightings and of confirmation of sightings (corroboration) are conclusive evidences which is why we believee and respond to many of the reports here.

Surely, you being a lawyer or law student are supposed to know that.

impeccablephili:
I knew you will quote the sermon on the mountain that is why I stated that you should give example where bible states that surrogacy is a sin.

What you quoted has to do with lust that is, when you look at a woman and start admiring her to the extent of thinking about sleeping with her. Now tell me how that relates to surrogacy.

The reason why those people opt for surrogacy is because there is no hope that the wife could give birth naturally, and they need someone to help carry their baby. Anybody could do it even the husband's distance relatives. It does not involve sex, but we read meaning to everything in this part of the world.

I believe helping people like that is what we call Christianity.

As regards the church I mentioned, I just cite them to Burress my point. If you think you know more than them or you are more holier than them. That is your own opinion.

Common sense does not tell you that this is also the same case of stealing when you steal a lexus in your mind? or killing a person in your heart?

Did you expect Jesus would repeat this for every sin on the earth?

Barreness is a curse from God, so woe shall be upon anyone who tries to bless who God has Cursed.

Flangelo12:
Oga, no vex, opinions on Nairaland do not count.

No vex say i dey spoil your denials and evil delusions. Sightings expressed by people are not opinions,

Flangelo12:
Your research citations, sir?

Before social media we have all noticed certain girls have big breasts far above their age. And many of them are damaged hence their promiscuity. But as usual with wicked boys and men, they see it as a good thing since they get to fukk the girl that they would not have easily fukked if she were normal like her mates.

And I have been investigating what causes this evil thing on such girls and now i have all the facts and read the police reports and investigations and hence i can tell you the pattern.

https://www.nairaland.com/8249669/lets-talk-it-all-know#132641360

https://www.nairaland.com/8252603/rape-family-members#132641563

We all know all these evils are going on but everyone is just keeping silent and pretending as if they do not see nor know

Ken4Christ:
Yes, because Jesus was made sin for us. So, at that moment, Satan had dominion over him. But when God, the Father saw that the demand of justice has been met, he declared the entire human race free. That was when Jesus threw off the principalities that held him and he made a public spectacle of them.

Please do not speak foolishly. No where did you see Satan rule over Him. The bible clearly said He went there of Hs own. Common sense tells you clearly that it was a "state visit" exactly how judges and governors go to prisons.

And like them you see He came out on His Own.

Clearly, Jesus was showing us that death is just another world.

And that He went there to preach to them. which the bible also tells us that they may not have been condemned if Christ had not preached to them.

Thus, His Visit was to end all salvation of the human race both for the living and the first dead!

Its as simple as that correct your madness of Satan had power over Christ, you are not clearly mad most especially as he did not when Christ was alive on the earth is it now in the grave where Christ chose to go to, with still the record that He did no sin?

please think well. The mere fact thatI bulls and pigeons were used as sacrifice did not mean that they sinned the sins of fornication, stealing, lying, wockedness etc

They do it in the hope that their fukk wouldbe getti him hooked to them because they know that sex leads to soul tie.

And after the tying the guy will find that he is just forced to everything they want just as a wife to her husband, even iwhen he does not want to.

But a lot of times God spoils the tie and the guy is free until God lets him fall into one of them. Them you see him marry the girl.

Samantha125:
Some celebrities have got this distinctive unexplainable aura that's just so damn attractive.

True Lies!

None contests.

it is just children of Satan trying to deceive stupid people that there are several contestants.

Like if many people claim. ownership of a property, tenants will be able to live peacefully in it.

budaatum:
Is there any knowledge greater than the knowledge of good and evil?

Is it good to call your neighbours devils?

Yes!

Knowledge of God

Knowledge of the fear of God.

Knowledge of your foolishness and limitations etc

FayaBall:
Na wa o, people dey craze these days oooo!

So if your brother take bullet for you, then later come recover after some days, now means he did not sacrifice his life for you eh!

So because he survived, it's no more a sacrifice, eh

Otio! Haaaa

Hmmm, correct.

Clear proof how evil the op is.. what an evil mind

MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o!

Even Ken who hate JW is also "MAD" by JW!

Ọmọ this "MAD" matter don worsen your case o!

Ok na OkCornel be una people.

Sorry ken. but it is still madness to imagine Satan held God.

Bede2u:
like me? You have already decided i am going to hell? Lol. Have a nice life bro

like the billions billions, you reject God and His Way , choosing the pagan way because, there is no mincing of words here, just like other pagans, you would go to hell, if you do not change and that is if God has not rejected you too like He did to Esau, Saul, Solomon etc

budaatum:
...Basically, does knowledge kill, or is it not ignorance that kills?

Then Devil, why do you always ask like the rest of the world when something bad happens saying "did you not know....?

eg did you not know that if you play with high tension, you will die?

o did you not know that if you drink and drive when drunk you would have an accident or kill pedestrians standing at the bus stop?

Michael547:
🤣🤣🤣So you can't even name one activity that occurs in hell. Na wa oo...and you claim to know the bible.

And this is when you show that you are a very stupid and mad person.

FayaBall:
The very definition of stupid and they wonder why their lives are so hard and filled with excruciating pain that they seek for death.

Stupidity leads o cursing, blasphemy and death. And a very slow death it is, which is why they wail more and more.

Bede2u:
There are billions of people in this world who are neither Christians or Muslims or even atheists. They are all going to hell only in your imagination

like you, billions and billions of people are going to hell because like you they already know that, that is their judgment for the evils they have done, which is why we all see them in anguish and great sorrow and fear when they are dying or about to die. And we all see this things which is why all of you keep saying that "thank God for life" whenever accidents missed you.

Whereas, if God was friend you would know that death is better.

But death cannot be better for pagans and evil people and enemies of God and death is very very much worse for them as we have all seen when people are dying and all the prayers they start asking people to pray for them.

Ken4Christ:
Yes, he preached after he defeated Satan who held him captive for a while.

Satan held God captive? Men jw has made you mad!

Michael547:
Oga what activities do dead people engage in in hell?
Name the activities and back it up with a Bible verse.

Diid i not say you will ask a stupid question? Please waka.

budaatum:
They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen

I am arguing that "exchanged the truth about God for a lie" was done between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2.

The humans created in God's own Image to be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it and have dominion", is not Adam who was created from mud to be mere naked ignorant gardeners in Eden.

And I am claiming that those who's eyes have been opened by Jesus Christ would see clearly for themselves that Adam and Eve had different job descriptions and wages to that given to those created in God's Image.

See, devil don change post from praising planes and liver surgeries to the madness and blasphemy he created from Genesis 1 and 2.

Today, devil has changed mouth (as the Liar that he is) to say they had different job descriptions whereas the bible foretold said "'them". Devil, your days are running out and your everlasting punishment shall soon be upon you.

FayaBall:
You dey mind them, they expect God to fold His hands when they attack His people then they scream when he attacks back!

Follow follow people never read nor think, they just blindly and stupidly flow wherever the breeze blows as led by their Falls prophets and pastors and talks spread from street to street

None stopping to ponder whether they are the sheep being led to the slaughter.

Michael547:
Oga Ecclesiastics 9:10 is talking about the condition of hell. It is not merely talking about the inability of humans to talk to dead people.
Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 mention any activity that takes place in hell? If yes, what activity?

Catholic Translations

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whatsoever thy hand is able to do, do it
earnestly: for neither work, nor reason, nor
wisdom, nor knowledge shall be in hell,
whither thou art hastening

Is it not the, humans living on the earth who work and talk and pursue knowledge and share knowledge?

Is it not humans who wish to speak to the dead and even sometimes we wish to collect debts they owed from them?

You don't have any valid thing to say, hence you can mad fully repeat your words till it blurs, its all in vain.

Abrahamweb:
So, according to your analysis,god created blacks and forgot about us till the whites decided to come and use us as slaves.
He left us for thousands of years for the devil to torture us.
Does that sound like a good God.
He ordered Israelites to attack their neighbors because they were not serving him, even helped Israel to conquer and kill thousands of people, children, women, pregnant women and he calls himself their creator/Father.
Will your father assist your siblings in defeating you if you don't love him enough,will you call your father a good father.
I know that you will come up and say "you cannot compare God with earthly father"
Jesus said "Let it be on earth as it is in heaven"

The bold. Hey correct yourself God only destroyed them because they attacked Isreal first.

Go and read it well you would see that just like Hamas did last year, so also did all tgose destroyed by God do. THEY ALL ATTACKED FIRST.

FayaBall:
So because He creates Evil therefore He is Evil? See how big a fool you are! And you think you have sense!

Is rat poison not evil to the rat? Does that make the creator of rat poison evil?

Or the creator of anti virus evil?

The fact that a person creates Evil doesn't make a person evil but rather that he does evil, that is where the Judgment is!

Or Soap or acid used in batteries. No where has he said the maker of Persil detergent is evil nor the makers of Hypo

budaatum:
First know that buda is an atheist. There are no gods.

"Prophets" perform miracles everyday, and they are not only caught on camera, you regularly benefit and use the results of those miracles everyday.

When Prophet Surgeon takes out your defective liver or heart and replaces it with a functioning one, they have performed a miracle so that you may live.

When you transmit your voice from wherever you are and are heard by people on the other side of the earth, you are using what Prophet Phone Creator miraculously created.

When you fly in a plane and cover immense space to get to where you can not walk to, you are using what Prophet Transport Maker miraculously created.

Unfortunately, many can not understand that all these everyday things of today are greater things than He did.

See the devil that was prophecied to come confirming exactly what the bible foretold that devils will praise the creation rather than the Creator. Romans 1:25

Bede2u:
In Odinani (Igbo religion), we believe the following
1. Chi-ukwu (Big god) created everything but does not interfere. His role is simply to create. That is why he is also called chi n'eke (god that creates)

2. Chukwu created Alusi (oracles). They are divine beings that interfere in the affairs of men and aliens and over-sees gods creations. Every people have their own Alusis. Jesus is possibly the Alusi of the European. While Mohammed is possibly the Alusi of the Arabs. And Buddah is also Alusi for his own people. So on.

3. The Alusis that governs Igbo land is Ala (earth). She is the most important being created by the creator and has the role of giving life, death etc. She is aided by the Sun, Amadioha who brings thunder and justice, Ikenga who gives intelligence, good fortune and wealth, and Ekwensu who embodies the evil in creation.

Odinani religion gives a better description of God than Christianity and Islam.

That is the very paganism of the old civilisations like the movies Atiila, Odysseus, sinbad have shown you, and Abraham too was from them, yet he knew something was wrong which was why God called him and used him to put down His own Way so that we would not be destroyed by the pagan ways since you would claim that you did not know that your pagab way was not God's Way.

So now you know, yet you continue to choose the way of your ancestors, when God comes and finds you guilty, you have no excuse.

Treborblue:
Question 2
Now I create another being
And I put both kind ,good , evil and hate in that being
And I give that being free will

Since you claim "Christian" then you ought to have seen that God created man very very Good.

And that another extra good and evil were outside the man

And that one evil thing got woman to put evil in her and she gave her husband, the evil to put in himself.

So, God did not put any evil in man, it is woman who put evil in herself and got man to do the same.

So you see you are not a Christian but clearly a blasphemous devil the bible foretold us will come up speaking blasphemies against God!

BondRiv:
Perversion. You call good evil, and evil good. Sorry for you.

Big Perversion.

Michael547:
Where was Lazarus and jairus daughter when they heard Jesus voice?

Are you saying that Ecclesiastics 9:10 according to the Bible versions i posted is incorrect and contradictory to what Jesus said?

Does Ecclesiastics 9:10 tell us of a conscious part of man that survives death?

Did you not say sheol, hell, grave whatever the name is the place after what we call death?

Does common sense not tell you Ecclesiastics 9:10 is in reference to our human capability of trying to speak to the dead as though they were living like our neighbors who are still living? or the impossibility of our trying to take knowledge or give knowledge to them? not to talk of giving them work.

Everyone knows this but you are always never there to know hence why you ask stupid questions . i wonder which one would drop now.

Treborblue:
This will lead to my next thread.
Cause why won’t God want to distinguish himself from all these frauds, why won’t he perform a modern miracle through one of his prophets , e.g manna fall from the heavens or multiply bread. And have this caught live on camera. So they will be no arguing the fact of who is the true God

There is nothinh to distinguish.

Look at the phone or device you are using, if someone was of really claiming ownership, you would not be able to use it comfortably.

But, because it is free from encumberance therefore, whether anyone says it belongs to another person, both you and the phone are in peace as it continues to doing all that you have commanded.

So even if Mugu's devotees claim it is not your own, you are not bothered nor do you open your mouth to foolishly start arguing with them. because it is already proven beyond all doubt by fact and fiction Law that the phone you are using is yours.