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Treborblue:
Bro please let’s refrain from using inciteful words even while enlightening others , so we don’t derail the thread and also respect one another

Sorry, i am not trying to ignite anyone but the topic is already incitting and thus it must be countered equally sharply, especially as his grounds are full of obvious holes. Holes that even ordinary nature has filled already

wiseone28:
Your opinion

its a fact we all see. The difference is you do not want to accept it and that is why I pray for God to come let all evil people get their lawfull due

What an evil. in the 80's only a few girls had breasts and we all queried now it is known that fathers are fucking their daughters and 9 year olds have sextapes, yet you still want to close your eyes.

Anyway, i am not going to try waking a person pretending to sleep

wiseone28:
Everything doesn't start now even in the 80s 13yrs old still develop big boobs...it all depends on the girl body system.

Any 13 year old with big breast is either having sex with her father, or whoever is father in her house or is being raped by her father or is being given out as a prostitute by her mother.

A girl who has not been sexually abused does not grow big breasts

Have you not been reading all the regret stories, here?

Michael547:
Jesus did not go to preach in Hell either. Hell is a place of unconsciousness as proven by bible versions below.

Was Lazarus and Jairus daughter not already in it when He Spoke, even from here on earth. and they heard His Voice from here and responded to Him?

So they are not conscious to us humans but they certainly can hear and respond to God wherever they might be.

Mugu44:
...then will destroy man because of the evil of the freewill He gave man.

Complete your theory.


I ask you again, does this sadistic game make any sense to you?

Even for saying this are you not qualified for destruction?

Is it not your fellow man who is destroying Farotimi because he said something in exercise of his own freewil?

You are just being foolish, sorry to say for we know you are saying all this rubbish because you see that you are qualified to be destroyed by God, Whom the Christians show and prove that He is indeed the only God. thus, you are now wishing God had not given you freewill.

Still not learning from your phones and cars that they are still liable to be destroyed when they do not please their owners.. So there is no escaping destruction whether you have freewill or not.

So, blame yourself for your destruction if you you find that God has marked you up as one of those things He plans on destroying. You could have followed other people like Noah, Daniel and Job to do only the right and good thing.

Mugu44:
Again, we were created by one god on behalf of several gods. We were created in their image and likeness.

I don't want to repeat what I typed in my last comment.

The one you call "God" is one of them. He wasn't even the highest ranking of them.


Now let me ask you a question.
If you say "God" created us, why would he allow us to sin and be eventually destroyed like some sadistic game?

OR
Why would his own creation - Satan - rebel against him & keep "causing havoc" while he just stands by and watch?

Answer this question because I can if you don't.

See how you have joined 2. different topics together i.e your confusion of multiple creators (gods) creating and owning one creation which is even the main topic here but now you are joining it and departing from the topic to why and how a creation exercises the powers that it has been given by God, his Creator?

Whereas ordinary common sense and nature has already shown you that creations and lessers are always queried and held accountable for whatever they do. whether they want to or not.

So if you do not want to be judged and punished or praised, then make sure you create yourself from non existence. But too late for you, you are already owned, so just like your phone and car and mannequin, you are liable to judged and condemned or praised.

AcadaWriter0:
The misunderstanding you're having is believing there is only one deity. There are many, each with different powers and areas of expertise. The groups they support or oppose also vary. The deity of Group A may challenge Group B, leaving it to the deity of Group B to protect or seek justice for them. Sometimes, a deity may also challenge their own followers if they do not meet certain expectations. Reflect on this, and many of your questions about humanity and life may find answers.

If there are many gods, as you say, then there must be a hot hot war amongst them and we creations must be destroyed. (hence the truth of the adage when 2 elephants are fighting, the grass and trees around them will suffer)

For if one god interfares with the property of another, that means war of which the other enemy god must destroy this world and us, since he is warring with the owner of this world as you say.

But this is not so, God Who created Adam, Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, has remained in full and absolute control of His footstool.
So you are talking rubbish.

Clearly, this is an alternative moniker of Mugu44

Mugu44:
1. Mankind was created by one (of the) gods although they were all in agreement on our creation.
However, a few of the gods did procreate with man to give birth to unique humans. Same homo sapien but having superior gifts due to their direct god progenitor...

Do you see that you are speaking like q mad person?

You say "Mankind was created by one". Then you say another god went sleeping with the creation of another god, thereby creating confusion.

Do you not see that both gods will fight and become enemies?

if the op pours his sperm in your mannequin, is it not that you will destroy your mannequin as the 2 of you start to fight?

You sound like you are not mad person, so go and rethink and reaccess the information you are working with for this one is clearly stupid.

Mugu44:
The mistake you're making is thinking there is only one god. There are many and their powers and areas of expertise differ. The people they protect/fight also differ.

The god of People A will always afflict People B so it is left for the god of People B to protect/avenge on their behalf. Sometimes a god can afflict his/her own people if they fall short of requirements.


Think this deeply & most of your questions about humanity & life will be answered.

If you saw properly. then you would have seen that creations. andt properties are only owned by one person eg your house, car, phone, mannequins.

So, there is only one God! People are just referring to Him in their dialects or fabricating their own as the golden calf proves since they do not want Him.

Treborblue:
So i will be starting a series . To enlighten the minds of many on who the creator is.
Please bear a open mind
And a sincere heart the truth shall be revealed. Feel free to ask questions and say your mind . Afterall that’s what I’m here for

Just like the topic says . Yes
Chapter1
God IS EVIL

Now let’s do some quick test
Close your eyes and imagine a color that doesn’t exist.
Well you can’t without mixing already existing colors together.
Okay let’s do another test
Get a remote control then press a button that isn’t on the remote control. Well that’s also impossible right
So how therefore do you think
People or let’s say the devil are able to manifest bad if the programming wasn’t in them.
Now I’m a strong believer of God and his son Jesus Christ and Ived followed the Bible and Christianity closely, but it pains me to see that many people don’t know so many truths.
“Why do you fear he who can only destroy the body but not he who can destroy both the body and the soul”
That’s one scripture where God tells us plainly that I am evil.
Well if Adam and Eve haven’t disobeyed and ate that fruit all will be well. lol the fruit in the garden was a game always has been.
Devil proving to God
That humans aren’t better off the fallen angels . The devil and the lord for lack of better terms
Are friends
The devil is an accuser that has fallen short of Gods love
And he trying to make God believe nothing he creates that shares the emotions of God can be “good”
Yes all the emotions we feel God feels them too
Anger, love , pain , lust , happiness. Etc any emotion you feel God feels it to
And it’s possible he feels other emotions he didn’t program for us to feel.
Now back to the story.
Devil keeps on corrupting man
Making God destroy man time and time again
Because the devil is trying to prove that man isn’t better than them (The fallen angels).
That why the sodom and Gomorrah God asked Abram to bring just 10good men. Knowing they weren’t even up to. But the consequences of making a deal with God are far more worse than the consequences of making a deal with the devil or demons. If you make a deal with God and break it . Your suffer would be far greater , worse so that you may not bear the suffer on earth . But that’s where God is different he forgives cause he feels it all.in order for him to forgive you , you have to be genuinely repentant like David was.

Today is Christmas and there are Christians that will die today of starvation true or false ?
Next topic we will break the barrier of religion and open your eyes to understand the creator
But first do you agree with me that God is Evil.?

Whom God wants to destroy He first makes mad!

Since when did destroying a damaged property become evil? or since when did destroying a thing which destroys other things become evil?

Op, once again, you are finished. It was better you were not born, but too late now, you are over.

TheEnygma:
This "age of consent" matter is a very unique matter...
First of all, the rate at which body development starts in kids is alarming, before now a girl of 17 years haven't even started having breasts both now it is quite common to see 13 years old girl with full developed hips, boobs , ass etc .
This had made things quite difficult as a man because that "woman" you carried from the club to your house who told you that she's in her 20's might actually be a kid , which brings us to why we have so many cases of statuary rape.
Secondly I don't understand why the age should vary from region to region... Why can't there be a universal "age of consent".
So to be on the safe side , it's better to make sure the girl is 18 before doing whatever you want to do .

You know some fathers sleep with their daughters so, some breasts are already induced by some fathers, hence the cause of those girls people call "cheerful givers".

I pity people who took advantage of such girls, ah, they are all going to be punished

atoliman:
This state of the United States get earthquake, forest fire, tornadoes, drought, flood like no one other states in the United States. It appear it is just one natural disasters to another.

Wrong!

It is China that has it all.

https://www.nairaland.com/8183572/see-all-plagues-ate-china#131478438

jazzman7711:
This is all so much nonsensical gobbledegook.

You have no reason to believe any of this crap.

You can actually be a moral, decent human being without 'believing in' ANYTHING.

You have an in-built moral sense because you are a manifestation of God.

We know your pastor doesn't teach you this level.

Change of Post! He did not say anything about being moral.

And subsribiing to morality means that you believe in morality, so you are still believing in a thing, even if you are your own moral compass and yourself is your own god.

Which clearly means that you did not need to raise this topic. except clearly you raised it to blaspheme and mock God (as the bible foretold that devils like you would do) thereby proving that you are not a decent human being but one who deserves to be punished by God! And God will surely surely punish you even worse.

Ken4Christ:
The sacrifice he made was the blood he shed on the cross.

Secondly, he went to hell to suffer the punishment you and me were supposed to suffer.

He rose again from the dead to prove that death has been defeated. And all those who believe in Him will also rise up from the dead.

Besides, he rose from the dead with a glorified body that is not sustained by blood.

See jw lies. The bible expressly said He went to preach, you say He went to suffer.

MaxInDHouse:
Sure!
It's that time you will know those who are truly faithful disciples of Christ when you are all scared to preach and teach as Jesus commanded because by that time all worship centers will be closed due to the ban and human governments will use the buildings for other purposes.

See how you prove jws are atheists?

People are becoming stupider and stupider as their true Satanic nature is manifesting.

Is sacrifice not about offering?

wetin concern you say the thing sacrificed get up again?

And you no hear say dey roll stone block the door of the tomb so no be the type of burial wey you know wey dem dig ground bury the person, cover.

jazzman7711:
Why didn’t he just go to sleep for a couple of days instead of going through the whole “crucifixion” brouhaha?

Where is the “sacrificing his life for us” if he was out and about after 3 days?

Also how did he manage to climb out of his grave deep in the ground, or was that another “miracle”?

SMH.

impeccablephili:
Like I said before, she does not have to sleep with anybody, it is just an embryo that will be implanted into her womb that will incubate the baby.

There is a church in Ibadan, the church was founded in mid 90's if could remember very well. The church now has one of the best medical facilities in Nigeria. The name of the church is Vine branch.

My younger sister worked in the hospital as registered nurse and she told me specifically that they offer surrogacy services to people. She narrated how many people they put laughter into their mouth as a result of the services. I believe if surrogacy is a sin they wouldn't have allowed it.

Non sexual sin, In terms of surrogacy is strange to me please prove it with bible reference.

The bold is a fallacious argument. Sin does not stop being sin because a church accommodates it, which renders it an accomplice.

Sin transverses through natural process and God gave us an example of a none sexual sin in Mathew 5:28 a married person is guilty of adultery even though he has not yet physically had sex with his target subject.

johnog4sure:
Marriage is a choice not an achievement

What aspect of.adult life is'nt a choice? is it passing exams or excelling at a work?and Please, leave that rubbish talk.

impeccablephili:
You don't need to sleep with the woman, you can do IVF, the egg of the woman with fertility issue and the male semen can be fertilised outside the womb replanted back into the surrogate mom womb after weeks of fertilisation.

The reason why some may decide to have sex with surrogate mum is to avoid legal issue, because some surrogate mum may bond with the pregnancy and not want to release the baby[b], but if the man had intercourse with the lady he can easily claim back his child. [/b]

When Sarah gave her Abraham her slave to bear child for him, did God count it as adultery or fornication.

On the issue of the couple declining to accept the baby. That scenario is very rare, the couple with surrogate mum usually enter into very legal contract that always involve lawyers. It will be very hard for either party to breach the agreement.

More so, the couple usually spend a lot of money, I am sure they may be offering the OP 20million naira and in most cases they pay at least 50% upfront, how will they now change their mind.

What the Pastor could have done is to guide her not to have sex with the husband but go for IVF instead.

The bold.
If she is born again, then she cannot commit adultery.

And thinking. more about it, since the seed is in her womb, therefore, she becomes the mother and therefore, she would be guiltyof of not sexualt adultery

Janosky:
[b]Surrogacy (or Artificial insemination with another woman not your spouse) amounts to adultery.
That other woman is not your marriage mate., therefore you have broken the marriage bond.

Surrogacy is the same thing as your wife agreeing that you impregnate another woman to bear you children.
The Bible principle still applies to this context.

If the couple that offered her the contract turn around and decline to accept the baby.
Then, what would she do?

The young lady should make a decision and stick with the consequences.]

Since you can make this kind of argument then you must see that your jwness is Satanism

Back to the post., i say, You are not correct under this argument

The spirit here is different.

Here, all she is doing is being an external human incubator.

However, where she sins is in placing herself as an accomplice being the one who might be entterfaring with God's Judgment placed on whorres.

impeccablephili:
You don't need to sleep with the woman, you can do IVF, the egg of the woman with fertility issue and the male semen can be fertilised outside the womb replanted back into the surrogate mom womb after weeks of fertilisation...

johnog4sure:
I dont really understand paganism so I wont argue, as for the secrets there are none.

You are the mighty king na, so who do you fear that you should hide your secrets?

But, no problem, since you have solved an conquered marriage, let us lesser living things continue the struggle.

MiddleDimension:
..Maybe the likes of @SirTee15, @StillDTruth, @Dtruthspeaker and @MaxInDHouse can tell you what I explained to them, which they are still having difficulties accepting despite the fact, if floors all their life-long miseducation.

Says the one twisting the bible to accept adultery even when you see "the two shall become one'' and not "the one" shall become two, to become one, again" as your sinfilled pervertfull mind has conjectured.

In your foolish mind, you think you can raise this argumentt with God to cover in defence of your sins of lusts and adulteries? Fool, you are not the first to imagine a vain thing. Solomon did it and he failed!

Clear proof why rulers and police and judges will go to hell

dkidd:
It's very wrong to call him a liar... U were never with him or know his family. I grew up from a polygamous home myself with 5 wives my mom is the second .

Ah you wasted your energy on this devil? He is a mad Liar, that is why you see everyone just jumprd and pass.

johnog4sure:
I am surprised that only few married men are talking, when it comes to marriage it is not always one part fits all. By January it will be 10 years with my wife: These are my experiences:
1. She is still sexually attractive to me (though she looks way younger than her age).
2. In the early stages I had sex outside countless times(they call it cheating, but I don't its just sex with other ladies) now I had totally lost that desire.
3. Yes stress is killer of sex both for the man an woman but significantly higher in men.
4. Yes women mostly want you to initiate sex, my wife still does that.
5. These days if I touch her na belle, I dey even fear to touch her.
6 [b]The truth for all men is that we get tired of one soup. we need varietie[/b]s.

The bold proves you are a pagan hence your thinking and hence that picture in op's opening post will surely take place when secret wardrobes start bursting open revealing the skeletons kept there.

placeofallure:
Thank you jàre. It's an excuse for infidelity. I have an elderly male friend who is in his early 60s. We talk. His wife is almost the same age as him. He's a bit well to do so he can afford some luxurious home. He doesn't touch the wife anymore. They sleep in different rooms even. I was curious and asked him questions. He said as often as 3 months, 4 months before he checks her out. He has a side chic who is way younger, he prefers to do it with that one.
The wife has committed absolutely no offence. He'd often tell me that I'm a small girl, that his marriage is over 30 years so what's there to see again. I know the wife, she's still hale and hearty. Men why?

See Lies!

Everyone knows that even before a man even marries he already has his pockets full of excuses to cheat, so he does not need to wait till his wife is old to cheat. He was already doing it before you knew him and I am certain you are the young girl he is side chicking.

meobizy:
At forty-six years old and upward, women are not young and agile. African women surely are not. They lose all youthful looks and energy in their late thirties.

The men lose interest. It doesn’t take long to see one’s partner like a sibling especially if the person stops putting effort into looking good. Many wives start tying wrappers like towels one day after marriage. The act is associated with elderly women. A fifty-eight year old man will not climb his thirty-seven year old wife because she reminds him of his mother every time she ties wrappers around the house. Hit the gym and dress sexy occasionally, the man will mount you with glee.

This is why forever, men will hate your gender.
You people are Satan's children. See how you Lie so openly.

Ballzproblem2:
Yeah I said it's not easy due to economic reasons, imagine a low income household after three kids you are telling your wife to work out ,she go just look you wan kain.but those married to rich or financial stable men have no excuse,it's the least yoou can do if you not a provider.

Low income wifes do not need work out, they are always thin and hungry and suffering, so they need fattening, rest and more rest. There own. blow out is not even upto 10 years

Dreamhans1:
I'm married but not up to 25 years. I control my friends, my business partners,my clients. My spousal partner can't shock me.
You can't achieve these without having a great sense of self awareness and
you can't achieve these by hurting others and
you can't achieve these by blaming others

From your high confedence i know, you are the Mr.god There is still a shock waiting for you. You are not the first to walk by that control everything way. Nonetheless i do not pray evil befall you.

lexy2014:
king of what?

In what land is the owner of that Cadillac Chariot living in? It even has a kingly logo.

eventainment:
From this angle, there is a sense of truth as well. Especially women they marry who is available; especially when they are in their prime or close to it. Then as time passes especially when they become financially okay themselves they start craving for their original desires. Hitherto is why I tell every guy not to entice or woo a woman with money. Know what she likes before you marry her. Some try to paint a color you desire over her cause over time the paint wears off

Sharp of you to havea noticed the bold which is where you see the whole new her or is it old her she did not reveal, one must wonder, which brings about the situation in that picture.

A lot of commenters do not get the situation described by the op and even the op has gotten distracted by the comments they made. Anyway, the wise can filter diamond from sand.