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ReacherSaidNoth:
It's not a matter of belief. Observe the world around you, bad things happen to all classes of people without discrimination, even children suffer cancer. Even if you manage to remove man made problems, we still have natural issues to contend with. Earthquakes, tsunamis, violent weather, famine, diseases and pandemics, the list is lengthy.

And you still think some kind and benevolent entity is watching over this shit show?

TimiRume:
That's because you have refused to look at these things from God's own side. You uphold your perspective of the world, sin and good above God's REVEALED truth. People like you(I may speak as a critic here) are proud and rebellious. You always reject the truth in your face for what you think or assume.

ReacherSaidNoth:
The answer is simple but you won't like it. There's no god anywhere that cares about your personal well-being. All of us are at the mercy of time and chance.

MiddleDimension:
Show me where it said the bolded. Quote the passage.

Melchizzedek:
My issue is not with God but with religions that proclaim to know it all and also claim to speak for God when in truth they haven't heard from any God. Everything exist in the figment of their imagination.

xtianchris:
.. Christ, by his death and his indwelling Spirit, has put our relationship with God on a new footing.... Abi you still de run burnt offerings...... Mosaic laws .. El very strict God.. Jesus gave us Grace. .. We look inwardly ...The body as to die .You become brand new .. Enlightened..

Yorimichi:
would the instant healing of an amputees under supervision put an end to this age-long debate ?

helinues:
Your last paragraph, where did I say that?

I said fear is accumulated of beliefs. How would you expect a 3 year old kid to understand there is hardship. Which explanation do you want to make?

It's because they are yet to form the belief about hardship or experience it. Remember they are still young and innocent.

You know, kids actually don't have worries like adults

helinues:
As they are not interested in stopping the gbas gbos, make Dem do family planning then

helinues:
Remember hardship oo

helinues:
If you think they sound pretty same

Fear is more like a belief, accumulated one for that matter

Scared is natural instincts

helinues:
Emeritus, care whatever

helinues:
After six and Dem still no wan relax small

drerocker:
From my finding now
Witchcraft y practice,idols and spiritual practice it the other of the day but still call the supreme God

helinues:
They only scare. They don't fear

Why should kids be feared about hardship?

xtianchris:
Moral cleanliness came first under the Old Covenant, but in the New Covenant of Grace, spiritual cleanliness [the New Birth] comes first, followed by moral cleanliness, which is a form of character development. It's about shaping your character into Christ-likeness in light of God's Word.... That's where the word hypocritie comes in...So if you don't see all these virtues in human and the person claim to be a Christian that person his a bloody hypocrite...

Sirmwill:
God has said he would help us and we believe.

ebubeson:
Nowadays, if you see a so-called born again Christian, you may not be able to differentiate them from a sinner. In this case, not just in dressing, but in character, integrity, sexual purity etc.
A so-called born again today may be engrossed in worldliness, worldly music, exam malpractice, bribery, inflating prices to get unjust gain, dressing seductively, doing make-up like a prostitute, fornicating or committing adultery, dancing worldly dances etc. Though we still have several genuine born again Christians.
In the past, a genuine born again Christian may not need to explain his or herself as born again. The attitude, character, integrity etc. shows.
Two issues that makes born again of the today to look "different" from the past is worldliness and compromise. There may be other issues too.

helinues:
New born babies are innocent of created fear

Melchizzedek:
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1. Lack of Universality
Religious and philosophical systems often make absolute claims about purpose, morality, and consequences. However, these claims vary widely across cultures and belief systems. This diversity suggests that no single framework has a monopoly on truth. The differing perspectives indicate that these narratives are human constructs, shaped by specific contexts rather than universal truths.

Melchizzedek:
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2. Ethical Concerns
Disproportionate Punishment: Many religious systems describe eternal punishment (hell) for finite sins, which seems excessive and ethically questionable. A system of justice should ideally be proportional and reformative, not purely punitive.

Unequal Starting Points: Philosophical and religious ideas often assume a level playing field—that all individuals have equal chances to succeed or fail. In reality, factors like birth circumstances, education, and societal conditions heavily influence outcomes, making such narratives feel unjust.

Melchizzedek:
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3. Logical Inconsistencies
If an all-knowing creator is aware of the outcomes of tests, the purpose of testing becomes unclear. Why create beings with the potential to fail and then punish them for inevitable mistakes? This undermines the idea of a benevolent, just system.

Free will, as framed by many traditions, is problematic when paired with the claim of predestination or divine foreknowledge. If outcomes are known, how can choices truly be free?

Melchizzedek:
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4. The Human Element
Religious and philosophical narratives are products of human thought, often attempting to answer existential questions with limited knowledge. While they offer valuable insights, they are not immune to bias, error, or the influence of power structures (e.g., using fear of punishment to enforce obedience).

helinues:
Something must be used to scare people

Melchizzedek:
In my opinion, religious and philosophical narratives about free will, testing, and punishment are not necessarily "faulty" but a

paxonel:
And God did not create this world to be bed of roses.
If anyone(including child of God) want to make his own life bed of roses, then he must work for it, or he suffers

Sirmwill:
God's actual children. Yes!!

Emmitext89:
But I'm suffering

Emmitext89:
I can't disrespect God in any form. And this post isn't meant to downplay his supremacy and sovereignty.
I have observed a lot in this life, and each time, I can't stop asking myself this question. Why do people suffer?. They work hard, they are good, they pray, yet, suffer even more. You pray and it looks like nothing is happening. It gets worse.
Why all these diseases and famines? Why does he allow evil rulers. I'm saying all these with peculiarity to Nigeria where I live.

Sometimes, I am left without any option than to believe those who say God hardly exists.

Lucifyre:
You that convulsed over my mentions severally despite the silent treatment i gave you or do you need receipts to remember 😄

Bmaster:
don't you think that's unfair?
I mean people should give their consent whether they wanna suffer or not,.
Then those who suffer should have their price if they endured which is second life,then those who decided not to suffer should be totally left alone even after death.

vdestro:
You guys never take responsibility for your own actions.

Did God not warn Adam and Eve not to eat the fruit? Did they not know not to eat it and the consequences thereof?
Yet dem chop am, and you blame God?

You guys are so wickedly unfair!

Bmaster:
Many Atimes I dey see God (may he forgive me)as the bad guy in the story of creation.
Like c'mon,who won't ?
God is Omniscient,so that is where I clinch.
As omniscient,it simply means he knows everything,so if anything goes wrong,God is trillion years ago aware of it.