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Michael547:
So you mean that seyi and his father existed the same time? Are they of the same age?

Now you show your stupidity. Firstly, off point.

Secondly, No where did i say so neither did the bible Say so. Even common sense should have told you that they do not for that is what Father and Son means as seyi and his father has, and even you and your father show. But i guess your stupidity has started so carry your madness and stupidity away from me.

Michael547:
So if the Father is called 'God in heaven, what is the Son called in heaven? Why is one called a 'Father' and the other called 'Son' in heaven since they are both equal?

Did you not see His Name,. is The LORD?

You saw me condemn the trinity/anti trinity argument, so why bring me into it?

If you cannot understand that as Tinubu is a man and his son is a man like him, and they work very very closely and hand in hand then therefore, they are the the same and equal, for if Seyi tells you a thing, his father, will back him up, then be free to think whatever you want.

JagabanBorgu:
Goof
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Your reply showed you lack basic comprehension skills that kids in SS1 have, u should invest in learning rather than coming to talk online, this particular discussion is above ur level of understanding.

😆😆😆😆😆 Clearly, you are an idiot who thinks he can Lie and cover a stupidity with lies on a written discuss. Shows you are naturally stupid.😆😆😆

Already the news these days kreep confirming all i said which is why you can not talk.

https://www.nairaland.com/8284917/what-dele-farotimi-wrote-afe#133157698

"That the Nigerian Justice System is criminal and complicit and can therefore not uphold the tenets of true justice nor the dispense thereof to which it is sworn."

or is it the fact that this one confesses your laws are made in someone's house

https://www.nairaland.com/8283590/most-state-laws-written-living

or is it the one King Biden just pardoned his son even after promising that he would never do so, since everyone is under the law!

https://www.nairaland.com/8282739/president-biden-pardons-son-hunter#133124955

Keep fooling yourself!😆😆😆😆

Michael547:
Does the father have a name since the son Jesus has a name?

Yes He does.

And remember "Jesus Christ" is The Name His Son bore when He came visiting the earth as a man which as you see was given prior to His Visitation.

And Genesis and Revelations show His Name is The LORD!

But the nearest Names to His Father's Name is God as seen in Genesis, The Father, The Highest, The Most High andI The King Who Sitteth on the Throne.

These are the several Names identifying His Father!

https://www.nairaland.com/8282739/president-biden-pardons-son-hunter#133124955

See it all of you who think legal and Law are the same thing.

See it!

Clear proof legal is not Law!

You mean no one has told the op that this is blasphemous?

NaijaRadFem:
[size=12pt][b][color=#006600] Religion: The Guardian of Patriarchy and Gender Inequality n-the-guardian-of-patriarchy-and-gender-inequality/

Blame your mother Mrs. Evil. it is she who caused your genders lowering because of her cheating.
https://www.nairaland.com/8069879/another-proof-eves-adultery-mens#129579970

Explore2xmore:
Explore2xmore:
There appears some verses in the Bible that say reincarnation doesn't occur.
Hebrews 9:27 - "And just as it is appointed for man to die once, and after that comes judgment...
Sadly Christians pull gargantuan interpolation
in the New Testament, especially in Matthew 11:14 and Matthew 17:10-12, for their Jesus messiah unaccepted by his fellow Jews to connect John the Baptist to this prophetic expectation, indicating that John fulfills Malachi’s prophecy regarding Elijah’s return when this is not the case.

Not to forget a further wild goose theory that this will still happen in future.

It is clear you muslims are Mad and reason like mad illiterates.

Normal. people discern messages hidden in idions and figures of speech, and therefore, they understand what it means when someone may say Awolowo has come back as Tinubu.

Obviously, muslims this is too hard for Muslims to understand, (or they arein pretending to not understand) and therefore they ask very stupid questions, thinking very stupid things in their need to be told plainly like toddlers in nursery school what things mean.

AntiChristian:
But this your "exactly" is false! It looks exact in English but not so in Arabic.

So it'ws not exact!

That's why I requested you state the words translated in the Qur'an and hadith to Aorta!

See proof Muslims are Mad? Now mad moos is trying to raise an argument on the word "exactly". Kai You people's madness eh, it's one of a kind.

SIRTee15:
A Christian brother called mightysparrow created a topic called Islam And It's Impacts On Modern Day Yoruba People.
Note This thread was created by a Christian and not a Muslim.
People will not believe that the topic has been moved to the islamic section where U have to say the Shahada before U can comment.

The question is why? How did a topic created by a Christian brother end up in the islamic section?.

The trend of the thread extended to whether Muhammed was killed by Allah because he was a false prophet.
I brought evidence from the hadith and Quran to support the assertion that Allah killed Muhammed by severing his aorta possibly because he was a false prophet.

No Muslim could refute my claim. All they yapping about was the so called richness of Arabic language and the pathophysiology of poison/aortic disease.

The challenge for muslims was why did Muhammed described the illness that killed him exactly the way Allah said he would kill Muhammed if he's ever caught lying.

Next thing I noticed was they moved the topic to islamic section so that the topic could be killed.

If Muslims are embarrassed by their Prophet, that's their business not mine or any other Christian. But they shouldn't control a thread not created by them by bullying or intimidating moderators to move it to islamic section. ...

On the other hand, the removal of the topic here proves its contents are disgracefully and embarrassingly True, hence the point of the thread has been achieved.

So Gotham has some muslim roots, no wonder he is a mad snake.

Yorimichi:
You don't have to put yourself through all of these mental gymnastics if you just see the what is are discussing for what it is.
First i'm not talking about the Father and The son or the idea of trinity as you may have implied.
look at the bible verses i used to show my point and start from there, rather than an epilogue of false dichotomy.
like we read in Genesis 1; God commands things into existence, but in Genesis 2 we See that God creates with his hands by using pre-existing materials.
one more example if you still don't understand
Titus 1:2, Hebrew 6:18, Number 23:19 all say God can not lie
yet we see God lying and deceiving Ahab in 2 chor. 18:22
now do you get it ?

Clearly, you have not heard of True Dichotomy.

Secondly, you that are now changing your post for the issue was God commanded things into existence, and this world was created and you wanted to understand what you termed "contradiction" of God on good and evil based on Isaiah45:7

Now you shifted post after i have explained those 3 issues to

Now you have changed post to "we See that God creates with his hands by using pre-existing materials" which Genesis even shows that the materials were first created before they later used them to creatte other things.

And while you have changed post, you now added God lying to it. This is very not reasonable.

Obviously, you are looking for an eternal argument ready to move from one issue to another, whereas your thread was very specific on what it wanted cleared..

So if you are truly interested in havinga these other issues. cleared, open separate threads on them let everyone see clearly what is being addressed instead of it to look like a mad man's soup of concortions.

ichuka:
Roman9:16
For He says to Moses, “I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOMEVER I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL SHOW COMPASSION TO WHOMEVER I SHOW COMPASSION.”
The above verse is the key point to OP question.
He chose to show David Mercy and judge Saul

Don't be stupid, God is never partial and this statement was said to be Moses to stop him when he was stupidly.asking God to sin by punishing him (Moses) for the evils the isrealites had committed.

See how you just brainlessly mouthed off stupidity. and you wonder why atheists tell.you people that you it are brainwashed people who do not think

GothamCities:
No proof!
You can't just claim I go off point without pointing exactly how!..

Proof of iff point? Now i know you are mad.

Modified!
I now understand why you talk and think like a mad person and why you lie and twist like a serpent, your madnessa and stupidity of being. a muslim still flows in your soul, so you still not yet normal and you still need plenty of help. I hope Ten Q and Steep and co can help remove your madness.

JagabanBorgu:
Lol.
Read what u wrote again if it makes sense to you, trying to force yourself into a conversation that's beyond your level of understanding don't make you sound intelligent.
This conversation is clearly beyond your level, sit it out

Clearly describing yourself because you see you cannot repair your goof neither can you attend to the issue i raised because clearly it is beyond your level of intelligence, so you resort to deflection to escape your lack of capacity to address the issue raised.

sonmvayina:
Dtruthspeaker will be the first inmate here...

I will pay for his treatment...

Mad druggie still speaks.

Yorimichi:
Thanks for agreeing to a civil conversation
now this is what i mean when i say " The Bible does not present a single depiction of God. It presents numerous different and frequently contradictory depiction of God," is simply as the words imply He is depicted differently across the Bible, for instance in Genesis 1:3 (. 3 Then God commanded, “Let there be light”...) He is depicted as an ever above distant God who commands things into existence and yet in Genesis 2: 7 (7 Then the Lord God took some soil from the ground and formed a man[c] out of it; he breathed life-giving breath into his nostrils and the man began to live.

8 Then the Lord God planted a garden in Eden,) meanwhile here is is depicted as a more grounded God who doesn't speak things into existence but come down to create them with his own hands from pre-existing materials. heck he even planted a garden in verse 8.
we see this throughout the Bible where in some context God is said to be all good and nothing evil can come out of him and yet in Isaiah 45:7 you God say he is creator of good and evil.

First of, you see God Commanded, then.you.see the bible runs throughout saying that The LORD GOD which we later see becamea The LORD andI The LORD GOD which interchangeably.

And later wr see The LORD GOD/The LORD iis The Son of God, called Jesus Christ, when He came visiting as a man.

And on creation of good and evil, is it not the same man who you praised for making the Bemz which you would have call good whom you still praise for making the evil machine gun used in killing bandits and kidnappers?

Did you call these things confusion? No.

You understand that the basic Law which is a thing is only good or evil depending on what it has done aka Deeds!

Hence, poison is what you use for your batteries and you called it good whereas, water is what you use for drinking whereas if you dropped in it, you would call it evil.

And there is no confusion in these things, so you see why i knee jerk on post like these?

GothamCities:
Is off point your newly acquired dictionary word? You keep shouting off point when you see that you've been cornered.

Says the one going off point thinking arguments are done any how.

Go and learn rules of argument, departure from posts (off points) are not allowed are are all invalid arguments. Here are some you should know

Rule 4
https://www.nairaland.com/7956638/some-atheists-pretend-not-know#127760835

GothamCities:
I never admitted that he repented.

Now you show that you do not know or knowing you, you are now pretending not to know that there is a thing called "impled admissions".

GothamCities:
Now that you've admitted that his repentance was a bad and fake one, you're now coming back home.

Off point/on fallacy of Reversal and re-argument now that the arguments are closed.

GothamCities:
You should have answered the question and prove me wrong.

See funny man. i already and you wete supposed to show that I am wrong or i lied, instead, you confessed the ruth saying " So, I didn't ask you to show me where Saul asked God for forgiveness.." as you now disgracefully real eyed that you were caught Lying

GothamCities:
It is a law of your god to wish hellfire to others?

Now you show your god is satan for every Christian knows The God Who Said "Can a man take fire in his bosom, and his clothes not be burned? 28 Can one go upon hot coals, and his feet not be burned?"

GothamCities:
You clearly don't know what repentance is.
To repent is to turn away from sin with a mind never to go back to sin again.

You don't repent after asking man for forgiveness and then continue sinning. That's what Saul did. That's not repentance.

In true repentance, you ask God and not man for forgiveness.

Off point. And iin addition you make the error of saying "true repentance" which clearly means you admit he repented even if it is a bad and fake one. which was my point!

GothamCities:
So, I didn't ask you to show me where Saul asked God for forgiveness..

You are obviously talking to yourself.

GothamCities:
Hey, you're not a child of God, hence you wouldn't be wishing hellfire on me..

It is a Law man, if you take up hot coals into your bossom, you must be burnt.

GothamCities:
I pray that God will forgive you for all the lies against the word of God, the evil words and abuses you have thoughtlessly thrown on me this day in Jesus name

Even right in this post the fact that you lied is clear as you resorted to speaking to yourself since you could not show where you asked me to show you where Saul asked God for forgiveness in addition to your other lies and pretences which I complained about. And rather than come clean you went on pretending criminally.

On Judgment Day when the books are openec, you will see all these. Continue sinning.

calabaman:
No one can explain this.

Wonderful ..........

They don't want anybody reminding them that they are finished

calabaman:
Happy Sunday All,

What does the bible passage mean: Judge not lest ye be judged. (Mathew 7:1)

I had this conversation with a woman of God who said: it means judge yourself before you expect judgement from others.

But I just don't know what it all means.

Some may say: Don't judge others, so you won't be judged.

If a thief should judge a thief, how would the judgment be?

If he judges the thief, rightly, doth he not condemn himself?

if he judges pervertly doth he not sin also and still condemn himself even more?

And this commandment is for sinners as you can see Jesus was speaking to sinners.

But for the righteous, this is The Commandment.

1. Ephesians 5:11-12 Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. It is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret.

2 John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

Only devils and sinners say "judge not" becauseI they don't want to be condemned the exactly how oloshos do not want anybody telling them that they are oloshos.

https://www.nairaland.com/7519775/only-devils-say-judge-not#119924481

Kooyepeju01:
We were told not to question it's authenticity and written. So many contradictory verses in there are said to be "estacological dimension of the divine protocols". One day,our mumu go do!

That is what your Catholic cult told you whereas, the bible shows that God called and asked people to thinkI and reason and see if they can ever catch up to His Wisdom and knowledge.

So as you be anti.God so, your numu still never full.

Yorimichi:
You can always make your point without the use of foul language.
Now to your point, what verse in Genesis are you talking about and did you actually read and comprehend the post at all?
Shalom

Sorry, its my knee jerk reaction to potentially blasphemous post.

You said " The Bible does not present a singular depiction of God. It presents numerous different and frequently contradictory depiction of God,"

Whereas, the bible shows A great King issued Commands and His Subjects. carried out His Commands.

Then we also know every King a points Administrators to handle certain parts of His Domain.

In which Case The King a points His Son, The LORD to administer this place known as heaven and earth.

What is confusing about this?

VEHINTOLAR:
Absolutely! That's it; you're so on point.

Wrong!

He only proved that they are in hell (not hellfire, which is the place where the punishment is to be served).

He did not show where and when the dead are taking to heaven after they died.

See it, he said
by GothamCities: 10:23am
Some are in heaven, some in hell.
Here's why:

Jokerman:
From what I know, Hell Fire is the place where sinners and enemies of God are currently punished in spirit form after they dropped the flesh, and waiting for their lot on the last day.

While Hades, is the abode of the dead...

I stand to be corrected

Is it not on the last day that day shall be cast into hellfire?

GothamCities:
They're all judged according to their conscience. Please read my post again.

See, you are full of rubbish and you speak lies, oya, answer is his questions for i know in the end you would not be able to justify your answer.

Michael547:
So why did Christ still go to preach to those who died without knowing him before he came to earth according to you?

Jokerman:
Please what happened to souls that died without knowing or seeing Jesus.

Are they in hell, heaven or still in Hades?

Did you not read the bible to see that no man or angel is in hellfire until after they have been Judged by God in HIs Court?

Yorimichi:
The Bible does not present a singular depiction of God. It presents numerous different and frequently contradictory depiction of God, And you can't just add them all together and look at the sum and have a fuller picture of God. You just get a tangled paradoxical mess.

What you can do to get a notion of a "God of the Bible" is negotiate with the the text, and center and prioritize certain depictions, and marginalize, reinterpret or outright ignore other depictions. And all of these is in the interest of making the text more meaningful or more useful for us within a given context or situation.

Which mean any "God of the Bible" that we fine is a situationally emergent, negotiated divine profile, because the Bible is not univocal.
it does not speak with a single unified voice, and does not present a single unified idea of God.

Don't be stupid.

Genesis shows The King Spoke and hands over this world to His Mighty Son, Who remained in charge throughout.

GothamCities:
Ah! So, it was Samuel that would pardon Saul's sins?

Off point.

You thought Saul. did not repent and now you have seen it, you are now changing post.

GothamCities:
I asked you to show me where Saul asked God, not Samuel for forgiveness.

See how you prove you are a Liar and a criminal? See what was said

! by GothamCities: 7:45am
Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see Saul repents asked for the forgiveness in verse 25?

Gotham reply
Okay, I don't think I've seen that. Verse 25 of which chapter?
..................

No where did you ask me to show me where "Saul asked God, not Samuel for forgiveness".

So you see, you are not a repentant sinner but a sinner who loves sinning.. Keep sinning hellfire is never full.

GothamCities:
1 Samuel 15:24-25 says:
"Then Saul said to Samuel, 'I have sinned. I violated the Lord’s command and your instructions. I was afraid of the men and so I gave in to them.'"

Show me how Saul asked for forgiveness in the verses above. He was even giving excuses. Lol.

See why you should use kjv?

And clearly, you are a crook for i said 24/25 but you chose to stop at 24 with your satanic bible. No wonder you are twisted like a criminal.

See what kjv says and see the difference. But with the kind of evil mind, i am certain you won't see the difference and it is definitely outpossible to explain it to you.

1 samuel 15
24 And Saul said unto Samuel, I have sinned: for I have transgressed the commandment of the Lord, and thy words: because I feared the people, and obeyed their voice.

25 Now therefore, I pray thee, pardon my sin, and turn again with me, that I may worship the Lord.

GothamCities:
Conscience! God created conscience in man. The conscience has been in existence before the law, . ...

off point!

GothamCities:
So, you're talking about what Abraham did after Sarah's death?

Where else did Abraham sin if not after Sarah's death where he marries keturah and commits adultery with CONCUBINES

And you see he had children and grandchildren with keturah and The LORD Never Spoke to him which tells us how long God had stopped taking to him.

And we can all see that Keturah not concubines were not even there when Isaac was getting married.

GothamCities:
That's actually untrue. Many people actually tell their first wives they'll marry multiple wives.

See criminal mind at work. See how you openly Lie and have crookedly changed it to first wife whereas, i was talking about the courting/ "you are the love of my life and the only one of my life and the one I want to spend my life with". which every man told and promised his fiancee before marrying her, the very first time he married.

Clearly, you are a crook and a criminal and there is no point going on. We shall see on Judgment Day what The Most High Judge shall judge thee.

panpan:
After Saul was rejected, he could have just resigned or abdicated.
It was not by force for him to remain on the throne.
He could have negotiated a soft landing for himself and his family, then lived happily ever after.

It makes no difference for he has already done the worst thing he could do to himself in not being the same man who God Saw and pointed out to be the First King of His people.

https://www.nairaland.com/8281391/god-thing-first-there-always#133098226

Padipadi:
Why not buy paracetamol for ya headache?
Jobless hungry paedophile looking alfa!