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xtianchris:
Okay my friend. Truth is a Statement true in all aspects. Belief is something personal, may or may not be true and it can change with time. As for Peter Obi believing his the president is just his own strong conviction which does not make it so....
As for my earlier statement saying Every religion is true( My own perception )is because I see my self as an ominst person who believes in a single transcendent purpose or cause uniting all things or people..❤️❤️ Love.. God is Love bro .Unity ,harmony is a powerful force in this our world it brings people together, sense of peace and it bring about Sense of belonging.... You can add yours my friend.. we learn everyday. let's learn from your own side.

Truth is that which is True. And in a statement some aspects of it may not be the true hence such a statement is half true.

Thus, Truth is above belief which is purely confined to a person's preference and understanding.

Therefore, your preferance and belief might be in goodness and love but for some people like muslim's boko haram they prefer evil and hatred.

Sapasenator:
Hmmm… so Satan killed Job’s family, according to the Bible, so he’s a murderer…
And the Seven Plagues of Egypt, The Flood, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah through fire and brimstone… who was responsible for those, again?

If you put Satan up in front of a court for murder, you have to put Jehovah up too, don’t you think?

When an accused criminal is put on trial, do you see the Judge Who punished him being docked?

You are just advertising your foolishness

illicit:
Exactly

I will do that because he hasn't done anything to me

Clear proof you are his child for so does he do evil to those who did nothing to him.

Have you arrested your parents for all the evils they did you?

No!

Thus, most of you would not because you are all his children and he would even point it out that every evil he did he got your approval, consent and praise. You even thanked him for it.

So, if he is guilty, all of you would be guilty with him, so you can not arrest him unless you are arresting yourself also.

Procashtips:
Does your comment even make sense to yourself?

I'm more spiritual than you self.
But if you're talking religion , I'm not.

Definitely makes sense.

Your problem is that you just repeated that stupid atheists statement without thinking about it.

For if you had truly thought about it then you would have real eyesed that one creation cannot have thousands of creators nor servants thousands of masters nor tenants thousands of landlords, hence stupidity of that statement.

xtianchris:
I don't understand your question.. Belief is a noun . Believe is a verb .
As for Peter Obi according to you Believes ( It means to have confidence in the truth) that he won the election... Belief and religion. (It means a religious faith or the feeling of being certain that something is true) So tis how much I can answer.. . Please be precise with questions.

Whether belief or believe they both refer to the same thing and they are both doing something or causing something to be done.

However, the point of my question is that, does belief determine Truth? eg if Peter Obi believes he is the president of Nigeria does it make it True?

Petalss:
I firmly believe that without the guidance of church teachings or doctrine, no one can read the Bible independently and conclude that it explicitly states Jesus Christ is God or equal to God. Just the other day, I had a conversation with my cousin that highlighted this point.

asked her, "Is Jesus God?" She confidently replied, "No." Then I followed up, "Do you believe in the Trinity?" She said, "Yes." So, I asked her to explain her understanding of the Trinity. She responded, "God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit."

"Okay," I said, "but what about them?" At this point, she was at a loss for words.

I repeated my earlier question, "Is Jesus God?" Once again, she said, "No." Then I asked, "How can you believe in the Trinity without accepting Jesus as God?" Her answer was puzzling: "Because He is not called God."

I jokingly told her she was on her way to becoming a Jehovah's Witness, to which she vehemently disagreed.

This exchange made me realize something: if you ask ten people to explain the Trinity, you might get eleven different interpretations. It’s a complex doctrine that, without proper theological understanding, can lead to confusion even among Trinity believers.

i disagree for when I heard the different teachings people presented both wrong and right and the confusions it created, i put away all they said and i read the bible like a text book asking any question i felt it raised and that is why i have my own assessments which I am ready to defend and explain upon every reasonable debate.

The secret about the bible is understanding but unfortunately for many readers, the bible is worse than any text book you will ever read for your normal human understanding will fail you.

The bible is like movies have shown which is readable and understandable only by one who is worthy to read it, otherwise, you are on your own.

Thus, the bible is full of codes which people will miss like this issue where people are not taking note of the word "Our God"! Deuteronomy 6:4/5

Expanse2020:
Lier it's the almajirisss that gave them that name Christianity..... Jésùs didn't call himself Christ Christ is white man word....it's these who are ignorant of the rubbish people where doin then they call them q10

See how Mad full you muslims are. Almajiri is not in the bible and carry your madness to Peter's grave to tell him that he should not call Jesus, the Christ! Damn muslims are mad people.

emmy512:
u have raised an interesting point and i agree that things like ur language, clothing, and behavior can also be adopted from various cultures without necessarily being tied to religion. ..

This is because you think religion in the sense of the popular stupid and myopic meaning of worship and belief whereas the true meaning of religion means "a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion."

And every interest pursued with devotion whether worship or fanaticism or morality or immorality are all based on choice.

Which is why a person can be raised up as a youruba man but he grows up and chooses to be as one raised up by an American. And we have all seen this happen so your argument does not stand.

Expanse2020:
did you not read that God and Christ means Christianity?
God and Christ means Christianity...was it God that said that or Jesus
Show me the verse that said that in the bible..
Because the last time I checked is the almajirisss, the unbelievers that name the disciples that name...
Abi why did like to lie gann self ...
Can you now see the person that is not normal now
Change your name to what fit you
Dlies-speaker

As I have always said you muslims are mad people. and i have not seen any reasonable or normal muslim here. You see Christ and Christian comes from both Christ and the word Christ, and Christ is God, Who came visiting earth as man and yet you are unable to comprehend it.

Mr mad muslim, go to your madslam, reasonability and normalcy is beyond your ability.

Atuero:
What the Bible Says About Tithe

All the arguments and counterarguments on tithes won't have been coming up now and then, assuming some persons are not hijacking the payment of tithes and making it look like our salvation is tied to it.

We are also having all these back-and-forth arguments on tithe because people have cherry-picked what suits them in the Bible. If we follow strictly the Bible on tithe, then the argument will be lost on Christians because:

1. First, to pay tithe, we must have Levites: It is only the Levites that collect tithes. And they do this in the presence of the priest (Nehemiah 10:37-39).

The Levites were given this mandate because they have no inheritance (Deuteronomy 14: 27,29).

In the strict sense of what necessitated the giving of tithes to the Levites, no minister in any of our Churches today qualifies to be a Levite.

To be a Levite, you must be from the tribe of Levi. Levites still exist to date, but they don’t believe that Jesus is God, unlike priests and pastors in our churches.

2. Secondly, in Deuteronomy 14:22, tithes are supposed to be paid annually. If we are really interested in following the Bible strictly, then it can’t be monthly even if you claim you are paid monthly.

3. The Israelites don’t just drop their tithes and leave. No! In Deuteronomy 14: 23-26 you are mandated to eat your tithe with the poor, the orphans, etc. It is usually the tithe of your tithe (10% of your tithe) that the Levites collect and take to the storehouse of God. (Nehemiah 10:38-39).

For example, assuming your tithe is N100, N10 will be taken to the storehouse, and the remaining N90 is what you will eat with the poor.

4. Tithe was NEVER monetized. You are mandated to eat your tithe (produce) with the poor. In the case where you live far away and may not be able to carry your produce to the place designated by God, you are to sell the produce, convert it into money and travel light, so that upon reaching the place Yahweh had designated, you will use the money and buy things which you will use to eat and drink with the poor and your household. Nowhere was the payment of tithe monetized, even though they had money then. Please try and read Deuteronomy 14:22-26 and see for yourself.

5. And finally, Malachi 3:8-10 was not in any way referring to today's Christians. I will show you why.

If you take your time to read Nehemiah Chapters 9 and 10, you will see that the people of Israel assembled and, on their own VOLITION and WILLINGNESS and without COERCION, made promises to God.

They called it a “firm agreement” about what they will be offering God every year. They made these promises in writing.

I will quote some of the agreements they made in Nehemiah 10. Remember, they made this agreement FREELY.

In Verse 32 they said: “We also lay on ourselves the obligation to charge ourselves yearly ONE THIRD OF A SHEKEL for the service of the house of our God.”

Verse 35: “We obligate ourselves to bring the FIRST FRUITS of our soil and the first fruits of all fruit of every tree, year by year.”

Verse 36,37,38: “Also we OBLIGATE OURSELVES to bring to the house of our God, to the priests who minister in the house of our God, the FIRSTBORN OF OUR SONS and our LIVESTOCK. . .And to bring to the LEVITES the TITHE from our soil. . .And the priest, the descendant of Aaron, shall be with the Levites when the LEVITES shall RECEIVE the TITHES.”

So, when the Israelites were NOT keeping all they wrote and swore to do, especially with paying tithes, and when the Levites were not bringing the tithe of tithes to the storehouse of God, it necessitated those words from Malachi that they were robbing God. Other versions used “defrauding,” “afflicting”, etc. Of course, when you make a promise and adamantly violate it, what is it called?

This is why when Christians of today begin to quote Malachi 3:10 and apply it to themselves as though they are still under the law, it just shows their ignorance of the scripture and in that process, they make a mess of the death and resurrection of Christ that ushered in a new Covenant where tithe is not emphasized, offering firstborn son or animals and laws on the Sabbath are not emphasized.

But in case you want to follow the tithe law because according to you it is in the bible, remember to bring also the firstborn of your sons and livestock. . . And there are many other things the people of Israel promised God in Nehemiah 10. Please read it and follow it strictly. Paying of tithe is just one out of many. Don't cherry-pick.

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Before Nehemiah you would see that they make this Agreement because they departed from obeying God, so this was them retying themselves to obey The Laws God Commanded.

And when you say strictly, then you make nonsense of The Law for The Law is Spirit and not letters as the jews and Galatians had rendered it to be.

Thus, it is clear for all to see and discern and to do that which they have purposed to do but in the end God will judge all and will give to each their lawful due.

encyclopediax:
If Jesussssssssss issssssssss God. Why did he ssssssit by the Right Hand of The Majesty on High ? Who issssssss the Majesssssty on High ?

If Jesus isssssss God why doesssssss He ssssay " Only the Father Knows when the World will End ? " Good Master.... " Why call me though good ? Non is Good but God ," Jesus is asking why ssssssomeone is calling Him good and Wants only God the Father to be called good
" for God so loved the World that He gave His only begotten Son ". We can see there are two different entities the Father who gave his Son . Jesus is The Messiah and Savior of The World. He is not God and does not need to be God to save the world. Adam was not God. Jesus is The New Adam to Restore mankind back to God.

Go and read the bible again, you would see it Says "The Lord, our God"

TemmyT002:
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God cannot come down to die for the same people He created.

Who told you? The fact that you won't even die for your family does not stop God from dying for His creations which He took as His friends and family especially as He was trying to teach us that He was greater than death, so we should not bother.

Expanse2020:
but God actually stop the Jews from polygamy not the Christians so why did Christianity carry am for head

Mr muslim, did you not read that God and Christ means Christianity?

The way you muslims head operate, something is,wrong with you people oo. There is hardly any reasonable and normal person in your group.

The no 1 reason is that Christianity beats witchcraft (paganism) in every way eg it is better, cleaner, more respectable, efficient and painless compared to paganism which involves knives, razors, wounds, fire, bush, night, blood both of man and animals etc.

AntiChristian:


Ọgbẹni where in the Bible did you see Jesus mention constituted authorities criticising them?

I just won learn o! No abuse me o!

Dis one dey reasonable.

Ipob and boko and Taiwan and Fayose have constituted their own authority, so why don't people allow them to stand and not criticize them?

Expanse2020:
Please is the Jew religion and christian religion are they the same?

No! They are not.

The jews religion is everything antiGod which developed from paganism, idolatry and Judahism.

So, even though God and Christ gave them Christianity through Moses, they rejectrd Him and it and gave themselves their own religion, which is why you saw them murder Christ when He came a visiting

xtianchris:
For me all every religion is true . Depends on the Individual... In reference to Duality.. Good and bad. So depends on the person. There are good Christians and bad once .Same goes for other religions..

Since everyone belief and religion is true, so as Peter Obi believes he is the president of Nigeria, it is True, right?

Procashtips:
Which one of the more than 2500 religions in the world is the true way to God?

If you think yours is, why?

Don't you think you'll burn in at least one out of 2499 hells if yours end up being wrong?

Typical atheists brainwashed statement.

Can a tenant have 2,499 Landlords at the same time?

emmy512:
Think about it for a second. If you were born in Saudi Arabia, would you likely be a Christian or a Muslim? Now, what if you were born in India? The odds definitely point to you being Hindu. And if you were born in a largely Christian nation like the U.S. or Italy na? Well, the answer seems obvious. These patterns aren’t coincidences becos they’re cultural.

My argument is simple: most people’s religion isn’t something they consciously choose as it’s a product of where they were born and how they were raised. ..

Presumably you are Nigerian, so I ask, this English you are speaking or the clothes, you wear, are they part of your religion?

I am certain you can even speak and behave better than Americans, yet are these cultures your religion? No.

Religion is a choice because that is what it means when a person grows up and we see him conduct himself in certain way both in action and in speech.

MightySparrow:
Yes. I know. Thanks for the observation. Many will be arguing that tithe is of the Law and it is not so.

They are not wrong when they say so, however, you are right in pointing out that like murder and adultery, people are aware of tithing even if God did not expressly state it as a Commandment

DZTech:
Lol 😏
Children everywhere you go. 💁🏾‍♂️
It's like saying that the police don't uphold the law, just because many are corrupt.🤨

So tell me, who was upholding the law then?

You are just dodging the issue, as Nigerian police are corrupt and do not uphold the law does anyone say they uphold the law?

There is nothing reasonable for you to say.

Clearly proving that Nigeria is still a slave and not free nor independent

AntiChristian:
Tufiakwa! Cheat with who?

You won't feel much temptation if you lower your gaze and condition your mind/eyes away from what's not yours both online and offline!

If you're not wayward before marriage you also should be able to stick to your spouse(s) successfully without thinking of fornication!

"you should be able to" already tells you.

As is seen, the world is desperately intent on seeing people fornicate and commit adultery, so problem dey

AntiChristian:
It's not every Christian that the Spirit inspires the word mad into their mouth!

Change of Post!

OriOko88:
This ignorant op thinks he knows more than Adeboye. We're Christians not Jews,so trying to relate the story of Abraham paying tithe to melzhicedek is grossly repugnant. Jesus never mentioned that name thru out the gospel.

So pa Adeboye was right to say Jesus never paid tithe.

What a fallacy. So no man can know above Adeboye? because Adeboye is your god and you are under him?

Secondly, Jews are not christians for they disobey and rebel against God and even murdered Him when He came visiting, and meanwhile, this is not the issue either.

So, this is just a case of Adeboye worship.and crazed fanatism just like muslims to their Mohammed

AntiChristian:
Na you get lucid moments abeg!

Right now, you prove its you.

AntiChristian:
It seems you were born with the word "mad" course it comes freely from your mouth!

I think that's your own form of speaking in tongues!

Who here has not called you mad muslim till the point that they no longer respond to you? Abeg keep your madness for your house and mosque make reasonable people see where dem bin dey go.

AntiChristian:
No one was able to answer anything! Mr. Mad!

The threads show that in your lucid moment, you had no reasonable thing to say again.

MightySparrow:
Nope.
You qouted what suits you.


Why did you omit the one that talks about Abraham's giving to Melchizedek and that even the Levites gave in Abraham?

Galatians 3:13-14
[13]Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
[14 ] That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

The problem is that folks want the blessings of Abraham not his deeds.

Again,
Isa.51.1 - Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, and to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.
Isa.51.2 - Look unto Abraham your father, and unto Sarah that bare you: for I called him alone, and blessed him, and increased him.


So, if Abraham is the owner of the blessings Jesus came to link us with, do his deeds. Even 10% is even smal.

i did not dispute this. i just loved that part you captured especially as it pointed out that The Law commanded it.

Uptownerd:


Really? Better wake up

Seems you are just checking if your voice still works

AntiChristian:
If your madness is permanent then you can curse yourself with your mouth!

Says the Mad Muslim who is permanently mad and definitely not curable.