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JuanDeDios:
Captured? Ha. Captured by what naa? Scripture! No scripture, no Adam story for you. No scripture, no sin. See?

Do you not have a dictionary?
cap·ture ˈ
kap-chər
2 a : to record or note something, such as a scene, mood, or quality

So, are you saying that the Bible was written even before Adam's was created and he sinned?

JuanDeDios:
No. Sin is not a description of things we call right and wrong. A Christian's "sin" is things called wrong by the Bible. A Moslem's "sin" is something called wrong by the Quran. A smart and objectively moral person's wrong is anything that harms someone or something. Anyway, I explained it before - if you don't understand it, I won't reply you further. If you just want to argue, no point replying you further either.

Are you sure you are ok?

I said sin is a description of things we call wrong and bad and first admitted that "sin is things called wrong" by Christians and Moslems then you switch over to define harm as i sure that you are the moral objective person.

Is harm, the same as sin? If not, define sin according to your objective moral person let us see.

And i believe that you want to run away cos you real eyes that what you said is not correct and does not make any practical sense.

Kemetian:
OH SURE...400 MILLION PEOPLE REPORTING THE SAME EXPERIENCE ARE ''LYING''.

THE ONLY TRUTH TELLER IS YOUR WHITE BRITISH COLONIAL INVADER WHO SLAUGHTERED YOUR ANCESTORS, PLUNDERED YOUR LAND FOR A CENTURY AND GAVE YOU HIS ''HOLY'' BOOK.

THE SAME ''HOLY'' BOOK WHOSE ''COMMANDMENTS'' HE COMPLETELY IGNORED WHILE ENSLAVING, ROBBING AND SLAUGHTERING YOUR ANCESTORS.

CHAI.... AFRICANS...

THE DAY YOU ARE READY TO RECOVER IS STILL FAR AHEAD.

HOPELESS.

Brain laundered African who never learns. If you like let them be 400 billion people testifying as long as their testimonies fall under the hearsay rules, they re useless.

Secondly, your fallacious excess talk is testament that you still don't have a case to make and that you have not learnt how to argue so you think that arguments are made by shouting making noises.

He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak.". Michel de Montaigne

drlance:
Like sey satanist final boss no be Christianity

No! Oh
Satan na im own boss oo. God na just The Greatest wey dey always scatter satan plan and Who go finally delete am after Hin Own Plan don complete

Beautifulday:
Abraham had already passed being wronged.

Even God couldn't wrong Abraham at that point

What do you mean? For, Abraham committed the same crime as Adam did

And if you look at it, you would see that the brunt of all women's wickedness is mostly received by the unfortunate man who married them and became their husband. Even boyfriends and fiancees saw mwehn in their hands and ran away.

Hence, most children do not get to see their mother's evil

Tenrack:
word bros

🙏🏾

geoworldedu:
That's scam. God Almighty the creator of Jehovah doesn't make a judgement after death. You already saw the reference but you chose to remain ignorant of the truth.

ICUs and cancer section in hospitals and mortuaries have already proven that Judgement is waiting for everyone in the grave, so on that day, you would see whether you are not the scammer

ibtommy:
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Na so una eyes go clear one day. Human "reasonable" reasoning is not enoughbto alter the existence and power of the Almighty God. You can argue with your life, but that doesn't change the truth. E Pele,sir

When God Moves everyone sees it and it does not have any reasonable doubt blocking it

JuanDeDios:
So you don't realise that "sin" is defined by scripture? ...

Was there scripture to define sin when Adams, Cain's, Noah's world's sins were captured?

And is sin not a description of things we call wrong and bad ?

SultanYoung:
does that make the person to be in a furnace of fire for an forever pain and anguish??

You can't balance this scale brother if person commit a sin let him get his judgements be according to his sins

You judge and tell us what would be the just is you would demand if they did these things directly to you.

Kushites:
SHUT UP AND USE YOUR BRAIN.

GO AND RESEARCH N.D.Es BEFORE TRASHING THEM, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY CONTRADICT YOUR ''WHITE MAN IS MY ONLY SAVIOUR'' STUPID COLONIAL INVADER RELIGION.

THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO REPORT NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCES ARE HOSPITAL PATIENTS FROM ACROSS THE WORLD WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED DEEP ILLNESS AND HAVE BEEN CERTIFIED CLINICALLY DEAD, AND HAVE LUCKILY BEEN REVIVED, ONLY TO RECOUNT THEIR EXPERIENCE DURING THE PERIOD, IN REMARKABLY SIMILAR STORIES ACROSS VARIOUS NATIONS AND PEOPLES.

THEIR TESTIMONY IS 10000000000 TIMES MORE CREDIBLE AND WORTHY OF INVESTIGATION THAN SOME STUPID COLONIAL ''HOLY BOOK'' OF INDETERMINATE ORIGIN, BROUGHT BY FOREIGN INVADERS WHO CAME HERE TO MASSACRE YOUR PEOPLE AND LOOT YOUR RESOURCES.

DON'T USE YOU HEAD, YOU HEAR?

See pain!
When the debate is lost, insults become the tool of the loser"- Socrates

And your screaming won't stop a hearsay testimony from being a very bad testimony especially when it is known that people lie! So, your brain still has work to do

Originalsly:
Hmmm .... do you see how God sees? ... good for you ... you already made heaven... sitting on the right hand of God... seeing what he is seeing... and thanks for coming down and explaining to us... you can go back up now.

These are the people the Bible warned us about ... the wolves in sheep's clothing ... that will pretend they are of God but are not ... and it is for us to discern so we not be fooled .

Clearly, you were not in church or at hom6 when they taught "Lord, open my eyes that i should see as you see". In Rccg they called it in their bulletins "The eyes to see"/"the seeing eyes". Or your church believes that you people should remain blind where Jesus came to give us sight

SultanYoung:
I'm asking you as person how did it make sense

And I re-ask you as a person what is the just is that you would demand be given to bandits and kidnappers if they have murdered your parents, wife and kidnapped your children as in Plateau state?

Tenrack:
no lies here. Na only naive men dey see good in today's women.

Bros, e tay wen dem be like dat. Dem just dey show dia real colour

Meen, women are Wike. D

First, see Sarah even knew that what she did was not good.

Genesis 16:5-7
5 And Sarai said unto Abram, My wrong be upon thee: I have given my maid into thy bosom; and when she saw that she had conceived, I was despised in her eyes: the Lord judge between me and thee.

Then, the next thing after that, we then see her twisting it and putting it on Abraham and cursing him to be in trouble with God and liable for her crime EXACTLY as Eve did to Adam!

Which shows us that she deliberately did this to put Abraham in trouble

See set up.

Ehen! Another correction is that God's Way and man's ways are not close at all. So the diagram is not "V" but 5'o clock 🕔

geoworldedu:
God Almighty the creator of religious gods like Yahweh, Allah, etc do not punish people after death. All judgements are on earth and none after death...

God All Mighty Creator of heaven and earth and all that is in it has Said
"Vengeance is mine. I will repay it/" whether in death like in the case of Abel, His prophets and His Son and beheaded Saint',s or in life, as in the case of Pharoah, Canaan, David, Samson, Isreal, The Lord God shall repay all

And ICUs and cancer section in hospitals and mortuaries have already proven that Judgement is also in the grave waiting

emmy512:
Same in mass but occupy different volumes because iron is dense and feathers fluffy
Even their handling will be different

This shows they’re not the same

Years ago I carried 50kg rice on my own from ground to my head and took it inside the house
Then one day I was to carry a bag of cement at same weight and it just felt different as I struggled with it


Looking at the volume you’ll realise 50kg rice is larger than 50kg cement

I even experience the same with carry 20litres fuel and water and it felt different

Summary density plays a role too

Mass, volumes and densities are not measured in kgs and so 50kg oil or rice is the same as 50kg cement

Achor1111:
God can also change you too, nothing is impossible before God

God does not change anyone who does not want to change and it He already changed me so, i am fine

karmaolu1:
All sin no be the same.

Nothing like heaven/hell issues.

Folktales

Yet when cancer catch you, you go start to dey pray

hopeful95:
Where exactly is this hellfire located? The earth, the Sun, somewhere in the Solar system or outside the Milky way?

Let's get serious please.

Religion as we practice it today, is not more than 4000 years old. Humans have existed many times longer than that. Nobody has been able to convincingly explain what'll happen to people who were never Jews, Muslims or Christians. The many millions of people that have lived prior to these religions, what will happen to them?

Concept such as Paradise entered Judaism during their exiled in Persia. I'm sure you know that the root word for Paradise is from Farsi, the language of the Persians?

In fact, a lot of concepts entered Judaism during their interactions with the Sumerians, Babylonians and Persians. For example, the story about the flood has roots in Sumerian folklore.

Let me ask, can you confidently and honestly state that the flood of Noah or the Ark reach any near Lagos, Nigeria? Since the tale is that it reached all of the world?

*Do good. Do right. Be honest. Be kind. Be fair and just. Be honourable in your conduct. Do not kill. Do not hurt others. And especially the golden rule, do unto others what you'll want them to do to you.*

To me, these are the essence of religion, not the hellfire obsession you lot yap on about.

Just think for yourself based on the empirical available to present day humans.

If you are serious and thinking for yourself, then why did you run from my response and change post to asking me where is the location of hell? If not for the Google today would you have known the location of your physical prisons today? And when you accused and standing trial, do you think you would care about the location of prisons? And as you even know and can know the locations of prisons, has it stopped you from sinning?

Or is it the change of post of asking about the "religion that is practised today" and other off points.

Please, when you are serious and have a proper cognitive, logical and emperical thought on the subject on ground you can respond. Running all over the place raising issues that are not in focus show that you are not in order

zenburster:
Who is counting?

Everyone is counting

Kemetian:
What you call ''judgement day'' is a CHRISTIAN DISTORTION of the 'Life Review' reported by Near-Death experiencers.

Once you transit, you will at some point find yourself in a place where your various actions ...

SO, YOU JUDGE YOURSELF AT THE LIFE REVIEW.

Nobody stands in judgement over you.

YOU judge yourself with your then expanded awareness, not with your current human mind.

I said Judgement Day based on the real eyeity and fact of every human crying for just is whether in life or in death. And your belief of the reports of Near-Death experiencers.shows you rely on hearsay even when you know people lie a lot, like you are even doing now.

And the remainder of your talk in bold and edited off, are all your wish fuelled thinkings, hopes and speculation and NOT FACTS or Truth!

And the cries, wails and prayers people when they are about to die and their fear of hell and the fact that people ssy that it is not good to wish for people to die already proves that Judgement waits in the grave as proven by the cries that people should not laugh at Buhari's death.

That is when they real eyes that they are the rich young man.

And your picture is not accurate. The people going right should be fewer than what you are showing.

It should show only 4 people. one walking confidently in the middle, one walking very slowly at the beginning in that direction and one before the middle not facing the direction of obedience but looking at the multitude considering he should cross over and join the multitude. And the last one a tiny head in the obedience way

emmy512:
Yes 10,000kg or iron of feathers are different

You were not paying attention in integrated science. They are the same

SultanYoung:
If you can answer this question then please do what sin can a person commit that will warrant you send him to an eternal fire 🔥 and your claim to the person is you love him/her

What Sin can a Son commit to make a father hand him over to eternal condemnation?

I await your answer

Is it one sin you commit all your life?

And secondly did you not read of the kano father who said that the govt should kil his son for the murders he has committed?
https://www.nairaland.com/8602510/father-kano-murder-suspect-demands#138196002

Kemetian:
. ..THAT ''SIN'' IS RELATIVE AND DEPENDENT ON CIRCUMSTANCES.

TO CALL AN ACT A 'SIN', YOU MUST LOOK AT THE SPECIFIC SITUATION, WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY IT HAPPENED.

IF A MAN TRIES TO RAPE MY DAUGHTER AND I SMASH HIS SKULL, IT IS NOT A ''SIN''.

IF MY CHILD IS STARVING AND I SEE A LOAF OF BREAD IN SOMEONE'S DOOR FRONT AND GRAB IT AND RUN, I HAVE NOT COMMITTED A ''SIN''.

IF MY SON IS GAY AND FEELS HE WANTS TO SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN, HE IS NOT EVIL OR A ''SINNER''...

In other words you are asking for Just is and this is why Judgement Day is important for, that bread you stole by the door and ran away was the last meal that the hungry child was going to eat when it fell there because a cobra was in the house as he opened the door. So, you are the sinner called a thief and a murderer and any other charge that "police" can lay on you

geoworldedu:
Murder is evil and punishable under every single law in the world
Malice is immoral and has no punishment, except fictitious punishments from religious gods.

So from these two, you can judge which of them is weightier.

Before murder, is malice, so both are punished together.

And women have long since murdered by using Malice but whilst you, man cannot punish that God can and He must do so for " ibi errorem ibi remedium"

WatchYourSix:
I get ur point …. But still not a reason to write them all off all the time even when there is no reason to do so at that time

You are right I'm actually not writing them off but i definitely express suspicion and wonder what are they up to bow and what is going on