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Not just Christians in name but all.

As a Christian when you are guarded you may even see them trying to enter but you fight them off. But when you are resting and not expecting them and have no course to expect them, they also enter because normally they do not come when you until that day.

That's why you see them love entering when you are in deep sweet sleep and in dreams. And juju people also try to put it in, especially those whom you did not know use juju. This is one of the reasons i raised this thread as i finally noticed that we sometimes feel an evl spirit trying to enter us when we meet some people and i also saw that they were trying to push it into me
https://www.nairaland.com/8732401/people-either-juju-users-christians

writeprof:
Jonah 4:2,9,11 NLT
So he complained to the LORD about it: "Didn't I say before I left home that you would do this, LORD? That is why I ran away to Tarshish! I knew that you are a merciful and compassionate God, slow to get angry and filled with unfailing love. You are eager to turn back from destroying people.

[9] Then God said to Jonah, "Is it right for you to be angry because the plant died?" "Yes," Jonah retorted, "even angry enough to die!"

[11] But Nineveh has more than 120,000 people living in spiritual darkness, not to mention all the animals. Shouldn't I feel sorry for such a great city?"

Matthew 4:17 KJV
From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.

Matthew 9:13 KJV
But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Luke 15:7 NLT
In the same way, there is more joy in heaven over one lost sinner who repents and returns to God than over ninety-nine others who are righteous and haven't strayed away!

Now you are pleading Nineveh, not knowing that Nineveh was special.

Why?

Did you see The LORD Tell that to the juju users of Sodom and Gomorrah l, Ammonite, Hittites, etc?

Never!

So why did Nineveh get such a mercy? Because obviously they were a righteous country before they started messing up causing God to send Jonah to them.

Jonah 1
2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and cry against it; for their wickedness is come up before me." (And, funny, this is almost the same statement The LORD used against sodom and Gomorrah, (Genesis 18:20) yet no messenger was sent to them.

And as you see the people immediately repented (unlike Isreal) and that is what pained Jonah and made him jealous of them and forced him to wish peril on them.

So, citing Jonah does not work and yes, Christ did as Jonah, but as you can see, the people who repent are people who hate sin and not people who are trying to force God to give them.

Roycemadeit:


I didn't loose anything talk more of being terrible. Y'all are running on a program, so if a person asks an innocent question they are foolish, instead of you giving them an answer.

By the way, you have never provided one answer to any questions I have asked. All you do is abuse, label me derogatory names and evade all the questions... Why don't you turn a new leaf, become a new creature for once?

Admit you don't know the answer to my questions...
And didn't mention you because I want others to weigh in.

If you did not lose then why did you open this thread? It is exactly like a person who has lost a case in court going to another court to make that same case in that other court. It is still invalid and punitive action would follow.

Same thing here
The thread shows that you are re-trying to make your lost case.
Meanwhile, you lost that case because EVERYTHING YOU CLAIMED WAS INVALID FOR ONE REASON OR THE OTHER.

No Argument Can Proceed On An Invalidity that is the meaning and purpose of Fallacy.

fallacy
/ˈfaləsi/
A fallacy is a flaw in reasoning or an error in an argument that makes it logically invalid, unsound, or deceptive.

So, you are trying to deceive people. (You atheists always trying to deceive people and always arguing illogically and fallaciously)

And this thread is already screaming "FALLACY", exactly like the last 2 ...and the future ones you are going to make. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

A CASE OF BAD THINKING, BAD PRODUCT!

AI Overview
In formal logic and argumentation, arguments based on invalidity cannot continue because an invalid argument contains a structural flaw that completely breaks the chain of reasoning.

And your threads show that your reasonings are completely flawed and perfectly broken! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

So, you are not being logical here but trying to be manipulative and and appeal to people's illogical mind thereby committing the fallacy of argumentum ad passiones.

AI Overview
The appeal to emotion fallacy (Latin: argumentum ad passiones) occurs when someone tries to win an argument by manipulating feelings—such as fear, pity, anger,-instead of using proper evidence and logical reasoning

No Road friend! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Case expunged, thread closed with vexatious costs made against the op in the sum of ₦100,000.🤣🤣🤣

Mattswaggz:
No the op hasn't presented any evidence....what he presented so far isn't factual so it can still be regarded as a mere "claim" so you can't ask for the person that has refused to accept mere claims as fact to disapprove what wasn't factual in the first place.

The thread shows the op has presented some evidence as you yourself admit he presented something. Yes, we would like more evidence but he has presented the evidence he has which prima facie establishes that we should all look at the case. So, moving on, anyone who opposes the op's claim can bring a rebuttal evidence. Exactly how someone claimed that there was never traffic on Onitsha bridge and the opponent brought the rebuttal evidence. So bring your own

uunwanaobong3:
THE DEVIL IS CLEARLY AT WORK HERE.

THIS REMINDS ME OF THE MOVE "THE UNHOLY"..... WHEN THE PRIEST WAS ABOUT TO EXORCISED THE DEMON, THE DEMON CAUSES THE BURNT CROSS TO FALL ON THE PRIEST AND KILL HIM.

IT IS TRUE THAT WHERE EVER GOD BUILD HIS CHURCH, THE DEVIL ESTABLISHED HIS ALTER NEARBY

Was devil near the tabernacle?
No.

This is just one of the confusions dev plants in the minds of people who are not discerning

gabzyworld:
Exactly brother, Religion is a hux

If God did this to a religious priest imagine what He has in mind for you.. Continue

oofjm:
Chief There is nothing like hate-filled gibberish there. When the time has come for you to leave the world you will and nothing can stop it.

Yes, but how you leave matters. And this departure, is certainly a message from God.

This is clearly a message from God to Catholic churches and their priests.

altteemy:
Assassination cannot be ruled out especially as all three top holding nails failed at the same time.

Where people dey wey assassin go enter church, carry ladder, climb go up kon weaken nails?

Only an angel can do that.

This is clearly a Judgement and a message to Catholic churches and priests

Mattswaggz:
Why should he fly to SA to go and disapprove what haven't been proven in the first place?.

To get more evidence to prove that the op is lying after all the op has giving the evidence he has.

So, if he wants to prove the op wrong he too should bring evidence of his own. It is not only a claimant that should bring evidence, the opponent too should bring his own evidence in rebuttal

bukatyne:
Who is Joseph?

Do you not know Jacob's second to the last born son? The one who was vice president of Egypt?

writeprof:
Why do think so

Because God Said so

He hates witchcraft (juju and paganism)

Exodus 22:18 – "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."
Leviticus 19:31 – "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God."
• Leviticus 20:6 – "And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people."

boxypane:
You no be God, calm down

He don tell us Hin Mind already so e better make person know wetin go happen than to dey deceive himself

bluefilm:
What is the difference between God and juju?

Plenty!

1) With God, you don't go anywhere but with juju you must go to a witch.

2) With God you enjoy your blessings in perpetual peace but with juju, they are always afraid of who would spoil their juju or when God would remember them and destroy everything

olyrayy:
So the Christians that are suffering aren't God's children? The ones getting wasted by bandits every eke market day aren't God's children?

Even you sef. I'm certain that hunger dey waya you for where you dey. Na just nonsense you dey talk.

Either they are still at the beginning of Christianity or they are not Christians!

ZolotuaLorenzo:
Your Governors, wealthy men putting us In this misery, never knew God tho. Yet they are being blessed like excessively.....
Also, God can talk to him if he's genuinely repentant.

Is it God that blessed them abi it is juju?
Ever seen God bless a bad person?
Never!

peteregwu:
You quoted Acts 19:15 but failed to understand the context. The evil spirit acknowledged Jesus and Paul; it did not say Paul was a sorcerer! Read Acts 19:11–12: Scripture explicitly says GOD wrought special miracles through Paul. Simon the sorcerer practised sorcery (Acts 8:9–11), while Bar-Jesus was called a child of the devil and an enemy of righteousness (Acts 13:6–10). The Bible itself distinguishes them!

Your argument is not biblical discernment; it is a refusal to distinguish God's power from sorcery. If you claim our church practises paganism, produce evidence instead of twisting Scripture to justify your accusations.

See Red herring fallacy!
Who is talking about the evil spirit's acknowledgement? Or do you want to liiie and say the evil spirit called the name of your juju priest founder Lazarus maduka?

writeprof:
If he repents and promise God not to return to juju, God will forgive him o.

Not likely!

You are such a terrible loser and I am only going to make it worse for you because there is no valid way of rearguing a case you have lost. 🤣🤣🤣

It is permanent!! 🤣🤣🤣

And opening new threads on them won't still make them valid as you would be guilty of more fallacies in addition to the ones you committed in the main thread.

Thereby proving that all these you have done was a complete waste of your time and energy FOR THEY ARE STILL INVALID AND A NULLITY just like your arguments in the threads.🤣🤣🤣

AI Overview
In formal logic, legal proceedings, and structured debate, arguing outside a determined case is known as an irrelevancy fallacy, most commonly referred to as ignoratio elenchi (irrelevant conclusion) or a red herring.

Why It Is Considered Wrong
• Changes the Subject: It introduces points that, while they might be true on their own, have no logical bearing on the specific claim being tested.

• Evades the Burden of Proof: It is often used as a distraction tactic when a speaker cannot defend their position within the established framework of the case.

“You cannot put something on nothing and expect it to stay there. It will collapse.”- Lord Denning

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femi4:
You still missed it

Restitution is the act of restoring something lost, damaged, or stolen to its rightful owner (or compensating them directly),

Whereas atonement is the act of making amends, reconciling a broken relationship

Dont mixed them together

When you repair, restore, replace and compensate a person you injured, are you not mending and atoning the injury and wrong you caused the person you injured?

AI Overview

atone
/əˈtəʊn/
To atone means to do something right to make up for a wrong, crime, sin, or failure

They end in the same place

Now that you see you do not have any reasonable thing to say having severally tried circling back to find how to reargue your failed claim thereby committing to circular argument, now in frustration, you have now resorted to bullying me threatening that you would BLOCK ME. Argumentum ad baccullum

See Pride and self importance. Why would you not be perpetually afraid of hel?

There is never rest for the wicked

FayaBall:
He is God na, so you must do what he tells you 🤣🤣🤣🤣

The god don true true block me for frustrating am. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

FayaBall:
He is God na, so you must do what he tells you 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Ah! Make hin go fight God dat one as God don take that position go.

Truthseeker10:
So how does me answering you prove that Ecclesiastes 9:10 is talking about people that are alive? Was it not when you realized that you were not making sense that you said that those who are in cell are alive and I gave you the contrast with Ecclesiastes 9:10 describing dead people? If you cannot prove in your next reply that I've contradicted myself in this discussion, I would have no choice but to BLOCK YOU.

The thread shows that you asked about aliveness in your Eccl 9:10 post back at 9:21am where I replied that "Sure.
A person held in custody is always alive and must be alive to be kept in custody.".

And now that you see you do not have any reasonable thing to say having severally tried circling back to find how to reargue your failed claim thereby committing to circular argument, now in frustration, you have noe resorted to bullying me threatening that you would BLOCK ME. Argumentum ad baccullum

See self importance ooo.

Truthseeker10:
Do you agree with the screenshot below.

If you are not partisan do you care to be sure about who will win next year's presidential election even though you know the outcomes?
No.

Case closed

Truthseeker10:
lol....you are funny. So your analogy simply bend the fact that Ecclesiastes 9:10 is talking about dead people?

The thread already shows what you said and what i answered, no need to bend and repeat yourself

Truthseeker10:
The same outcome that you claimed that your God is not sure of? Does that not also make you omniscient since you are unsure of the outcome of tomorrow?

Circular argument.
Answered up above that
'Why does He need to be sure? If you cheat or diiiee does it affect Him?
And if you do well does it stop Him from being God?
No.

Proverbs 9:12
"If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it."

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO IN THIS WORLD ALONE! "

Truthseeker10:
What is the meaning of the gibberish above? You used a person held in cell as an analogy to Ecclesiastics 9:10. Is Ecclesiastics 9:10 talking about the living or the dead?

Is it now you are seeing what I said since and you even responded to?
Now you are crooking to Afterthought and Circular argument!

As i said you see you do not have any reasonable thing to say you have re-circled back, hence circular argument

Truthseeker10:
So your Omniscient God is not sure of the futrue?

Omniscientnesss is about "knowing".

So, the fact that God knows the outcomes, is omniscientness.

Truthseeker10:
So your God sees both outcome as "may" before creating people. He is not sure of the outcome?

Why does He need to be sure? If you cheat or diiiee does it affect Him?
And if you do well does it stop Him from being God?
No.

Proverbs 9:12
"If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it."

YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO IN THIS WORLD ALONE!

Truthseeker10:
Funny man using false logic. If you were logical enough, you would see that the word "alive" is not present in Ecclesiastics 9:10 and that it should not be imported in an analogy by an acclaimed logical person like you?

I don't care. The thread shows that you added about aliveness in your Eccl 9:10 back at 9:21am where I replied that "Sure.
A person held in custody is always alive and must be alive to be kept in custody.".

And now that you see you do not have any reasonable thing to say you have circled back to where you asked your question, hence circular argument