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Religion / Re: Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 5:43pm On Dec 07, 2013
italo:

To simplify the matter:

Are you born of God?

Have you ever committed a sin since you became born of God?
mintayo, pls answer dis question.

Thanks
Religion / Re: Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 7:48am On Dec 06, 2013
anochuko01:
do u av the baptism of the holy spirit?. how long do u spend in prayer and studying of ur bible (personally)?
If u'v not been doing these, u'll continue to live in sin.
exactly my point, by dis ur standard and judgement, we av less born agains in nigeria dan serving governors. ME NEVER C ANY CHRISTIAN THAT DOSEN'T SIN. The closest av come 2 seeing is dis wonderful personalty i met in high school, Still, he cheated wit us in WASSCE. So, so far, u are d only self acclaimed 'Sinless' person ive 'met'.
Religion / Re: Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 7:38pm On Dec 05, 2013
jansie: the responses so far is not satisfactory
u can also air your views ma'am.
Religion / Re: Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 7:38pm On Dec 05, 2013
chukwudi44: every one of us are prone to sin even the spirit-filled chjristian.However unlike the unbeleiver the xtian strives to avoid sin to the best of his/her strenghts and immediately asks for forgiveness when the sin
tanx man, u av just answered d question unambiguosly, born again's COMMIT SIN.
Religion / Re: Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 10:04am On Dec 05, 2013
anochuko01:
100 is definately attainable, and God desires that from us.
1 Peter 1:16 says "for it is written: “Be holy, because I (God) am
holy.”
if a christain does what i wrote in the other thread, he cn attain 100percent holiness.
Like i said, a clean slate is given whenever one becomes born again. Its nt by one's power or abilities, its a spiritual RE-BIRTH that makes u REPEL sin with ease.
The nature of man is sinful (man would only struggle to please God)..., bt the God-nature, dat nature of holiness is gotten thru been born again.
i apologise 4 taking 2 long 2 reply, i refrained because u didn't really answer my questions and pointing dem 2 u over and over will just make me look silly. All ur explanations are geared towards d fact d@ being born again will avoid sin but d question was nt if it wld be easy 4 born again 2 commit sin, but that are dey impervious to the sin? If yes, u contradict 1 john 1:8, if no, u contradict 1 john 3:9. And if ur answer is born again are sinless, wot happens 2 all d sins and attrocities perpertrated by christians all over d world (other religion sin 2 ooo, dnt get me wrong). So, will u say all dis christians aren't born again?

Thanks 4 understanding
Religion / Re: Pastor Okotie Replies Catholics Over His "Hell Fire"sermon by dyfatai(m): 6:29pm On Dec 04, 2013
Orlando Owoh: On whether members of catholic church will make heaven, I can't tell but one thing is sure most of their practices are not biblical.
oh oh!! So which of d other church practices are biblical??
Christmas
New year
Valentine
White wedding
Wedding kiss
Trinity
Drum sets
Going to church on sunday
Etc
Tell me which of these was specifically mentioned in d bible and d verse.

Na all of una dey put anyting wey una like into your religion abeg.
Religion / Re: Pastor Okotie Replies Catholics Over His "Hell Fire"sermon by dyfatai(m): 5:49pm On Dec 04, 2013
qwinzi: it's not the church u go 2 dat determines if u go heaven or not, we r christians we all worship God n Jesus
thank u, u av said d truth. Two gods, plus holy spirit, making 3. Catholics add 1 to theirs, making 4. Y una con dey fight each other?? is it because they(catholics) av one more god dan the prostestants?

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Religion / Re: Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 9:32pm On Nov 30, 2013
^^^
I seem to understand ur point, but u dnt understand mine. Been born again makes it hard to sin has u av put it, for fear of argument, i agree. But 2 say dere is 100% full proof against sin is wot im trying hard 2 comprehend.
Religion / Re: Is It Good For A Muslim Lady To Marry A Christian by dyfatai(m): 8:10pm On Nov 30, 2013
anochuko01:
alright let me put in the best way, i pray u undrstnd better.
A born-again christain who fellowships with the Holy Spirit (pray in the Holy Spirit) and studies the word of God on a daily basis WILL NOT COMMIT SIN. Coz the more you do this, the more CHRIST-LIKE you become.
Any born-again who commits a sin must av failed in doing either of these.
ur reply prompted me 2 open this thread.www.nairaland.com/1537624/born-again-infallable
just view it nd lemme lets discuss there so as not to derail dis thread
Religion / Are Born Again Infallable by dyfatai(m): 7:04pm On Nov 30, 2013
Good day christian Nairalanders.
I am a Muslim. I was discussing with christian recently on d topic of salvation.
The discussion was getting interesting until he made a statement that ''Born agains don't sin''. I opened my mouth and cldnt close it. Of course i didn't agree, maybe its because i dnt av d 'holy spirit' as he put it.

This is d verse d@ best justifies d@ claim.
1 john 3-9 ''Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in Him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God''

Is that verse not contradicting dis verse??1 John 1:8-10(KJV)
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

NB:- pls don't be quick to condemn me 4 quoting d Bible, I needed 2 bring d evidence for and against d arguement so d@ i can be best understood.
2- if u feel i dnt av d 'holy spirit' to understand d verses or i av quoted dem out of context, that shldn't cause for fight. Just provide d context of d verses and analyse wit d 'holy spirit'.

Now, my question to nairaland christians......
''Do born agains commit sin?''
''How do we categorize dis practices carried out by christians; backbitting, slander, Lust, Envy, pre-marital sex, FORNICATION, Insult/Abuse etc??

We av 2 be careful how we answer dis questions. Somebody might be quick to conclude that those who practice d aforementioned sins are not really 'born again'. If dis statement is true, d@ means d@ we av less dan 1% born again in the entire world because hardly will we find som1 dat has nt commited one or all of this sins since He/she was baptized.

On a final note, im nt here 2 make trouble with u christians, u can check my sinature for confirmation.
Religion / Re: Is It Good For A Muslim Lady To Marry A Christian by dyfatai(m): 6:05pm On Nov 30, 2013
anochuko01:
simply put, a BORN AGAIN is a person who has taken the nature of Christ....since Christ wasnt a sinner, a born again is nt expectd to sin.
However, if a born-again sins UN-WILLFULLY, he goes to God for forgivness.
if i get u correctly, born again are not expected to sin, but dey can commit SIN. Did Christ sin 'UN-WILLFULLY'?
Religion / Re: Is It Good For A Muslim Lady To Marry A Christian by dyfatai(m): 2:25pm On Nov 30, 2013
anochuko01:
thank goodness that God isnt in the business of INSTANT JUDGEMENT anymore....even me would av bn long gone.
is it possible 4 a born again 2 sin?
Religion / Re: Is It Good For A Muslim Lady To Marry A Christian by dyfatai(m): 10:00am On Nov 30, 2013
churchillfrank: I think what muslims pratice as their religion has been altered..its not the original message that holy profect muhammed gave them...some people changed it to suit their selfish desires.
U think. And we are meant to give ur thought superiority without scrutiny because u r who?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Inventions That Shaped The Modern World by dyfatai(m): 9:06am On Nov 24, 2013
maryam8080:

Salam alaekum once again.
I don't question ur stand or ur opinion, u av every right 2 it. But by saying d@ is hw it shld be and how every muslim shld behave is wot i av a problem with. I wldnt av quoted u if u aren't a muslim, but wen i saw my sister making statements d@ can take her out of d fold of d deen, i av 2 try and render wot little assistance i can.

I wldnt say much, so as nt 2 spark enmity with u, ill leave quran verses 2 do d talking.

2) "Do you see the man who makes his desire his God, the man
whom Allah leaves in error, setting a seal upon his ears and heart
and drawing a veil over his eyes? Who then can guide him after
Allah (has withdrawn guidance)? Will you not take heed? (Surah
45/Al-Jathiya, Verse 23)

3) "Can he who follows the guidance of his Rabb be compared to
him whose erroneous actions are made to seem fair to him, and
to those who follows their desires?" (Surah 47/Muhammad,Verse
14)

"Nor obey him whose heart We have made heedless of Our
Remembrance; who follows his desires and whose case exceeds
due bounds" (Surah 18/Al-Kahf, Verse 28)

"And if after all the knowledge you have been given, you yeild
to their desires, there shall be none to help or protect you from
the wrath of Allah" (Surah 2/Baqarah, Verse 120)
Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Inventions That Shaped The Modern World by dyfatai(m): 12:34am On Nov 24, 2013
Salam alaekum sister

U av made some powerful statement here. I will like 2 point out one or two things 4 u. May Allah (S.W.A) forgive us where we've erred.
maryam8080: I think you should think less of religion and be more human in your approach to issues in life.
Firstly, it is nt permissible 2 put our own desire/wot we think over wot Allah has ordained. U are advocating 4 secularism and not Islam by saying one shld separate islam from other issues of life because our religion encompasses all aspects of life.

maryam8080: If theology motivates inventions, then the Muslims should not use anything invented by anyone who is not a Muslim because such invention is corrupt and not holy, the way a Muslim is not allowed to marry a Hindu and other religion affiliated to idols

Allah (S.W.A) has clearly stated 4 us in d quran wot is Halal and Haram. By this statement of yours, u r tryying 2 make Haram wot Allah has made Halal. May Allah forgive us.

Wot im saying in essence is d@ wen discussing about religion, we shldn't put wot we think is right over Allah's decree. Allahu Allam
Islam for Muslims / Re: 15 Anti-corruption Hadiths by dyfatai(m): 5:03pm On Nov 22, 2013
Ma'sha Allah. May Allah (S.W.A) reward u and continue 2 guide us 2 d straight path.

Also, we shldn't all be quick 2 point fingers @ d leaders.........dis Ahadiths are nt one sided, it concerns d leaders nd d follower. So we all av a part 2 play. Allahu Allam

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Muslim Inventions That Shaped The Modern World by dyfatai(m): 7:39am On Nov 22, 2013
abbeysteph: ....... is wat u pple calld peace den I will start worshipin d lord of adolf hitler because he is d only 1 dat try 2 outdo ur horse riding warrior calld prophet thru slaughterin n blood sheds get dat into ur fukin brain assholes

The hatred in ur heart has left deep black spot dere d@ its almost impossible to cleanse. Just look @ d hate words u r divulging and compare 2 d person u quote. U hav nt made any point my friend, u av just succeeded in giving satan a good smile.

abbeysteph: Ar u saying dea ar fake hadiths in d quran or wat is d meaning of authentic hadith chai islam n madness

Ur level of ignorance is amazing. One will think u will @ least know wot u r criticizing b4 u open ur mouth. Who told u hadiths r found in d quran??

Well, u probably wldnt embrace d idea of learning, but i'll still help u curb u ignorance

www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith

U ar free 2 insult me, if it will make u sleep better.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Nairaland Muslim Newbies: Introduce Yourselves Here by dyfatai(m): 10:28pm On Nov 21, 2013
ive been a guest on nairaland 4 over 2 years nw, wen i c wot goes on in d islamic section and i cldnt contribute my own quota (to correct misconceptions and appreciate good islamic post) i was hyper motivated 2 register. Now im here Alhamdulillah. Since my debut on Nairaland...........I ONLY COMMENT ON ISLAMIC THREADS. U can verify. Lol

Now, im Abdulfattah (yoruba people call me fatai. My grandma fatayi). Im currently serving in a predominantly kafir state (BENUE) and d only thru family i got here are my MCAN brodas and NAIRALAND's ISLAM FOR MUSLIMS.

I don talk too much, no vex......i cldnt cantain my happiness at d prospect of sharing d same thread wit Maclatunji, tbaba lanrexlan, devotedone nd dis wonderful muslimahs; ummusullaym, deols, hardeola, babylaroy and YOU too. U guys are really striving in Allah's cause againt all dem hypocrites.
I say jazak Allah khairan

Finally Assalam Alaekum waramotullah wabarakatu
Islam for Muslims / Re: Did Prophet Isa Really Die? by dyfatai(m): 6:57pm On Nov 20, 2013
babylolaroy: @devoted one, you are not expected to say salam to a non muslim first. They dont merit that atttibute of Allah and thats trite enough
you can only say 'wa alayk' if they say salaam first
salam alaekum, as a student of knowledge, i asked some of my Aalim dis question a while back, nd i fink dere is a difference of opinion on it. Dere is an Aayat in d quran where Ibrahim (A.S) (....not 2 sure) said salam to his father who was a kafir.

I cld do a little a little research nd come up wif d ayat
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 7:46am On Nov 17, 2013
babylolaroy: @ifyjemila..wa iyyak
@broda Esji and dyfatai...thanx. mashaaAllah. Broda fatai wants to HIS WIFE to be the trainer of kids to learn the sahihs and the quran..mashaaAllah!!. i love that buh lets face one truth here...am just being objective o...in our nigeria of today, a woman cant proudly say it in public that she wnts to be the full house type. people will discourage her nd some will even abuse her.

Don't get it twisted muslimah, i just reread my post and i don't c nothing like house wife dere. Pious cld hav different translations, but house wife isnt one of dem.

babylolaroy: Now the same woman is to be the COOK, THE LAUNDRY PERSON, THE WIFE, THE MOTHER, THE TEACHER (to d kids) and @ her place of work too, THE WORKER!!!!


U blow dis out of proportion. As u r nw, aren't u a DAUGHTER, STUDENT OF KNOWLEDGE, SISTER, NAIRALANDER (+ others i dunno)........with none of dis roles interfering

babylolaroy: Allahu Akbar.. and what happens?..The husband doesnt know all of that...he only knows the cook nd 'wife' in her. The kids den love dia mum and daddies grow JEALOUS of dia own kids!


Are u for real?? U just painted everybody wit d same brush dere. U mean dis is wot is happening every single muslim family?? Its definitely nt happening in mine, and propably nt in urs even though our parents are combining d roles effectively.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 7:44am On Nov 17, 2013
babylolaroy: @ifyjemila..wa iyyak
@broda Esji and dyfatai...thanx. mashaaAllah. Broda fatai wants to HIS WIFE to be the trainer of kids to learn the sahihs and the quran..mashaaAllah!!. i love that buh lets face one truth here...am just being objective o...in our nigeria of today, a woman cant proudly say it in public that she wnts to be the full house type. people will discourage her nd some will even abuse her.

Don't get it twisted muslimah, i just reread my post and i don't c nothing like house wife dere. Pious cld hav different translations, but house wife isnt one of dem.

[/quote] Now the same woman is to be the COOK, THE LAUNDRY PERSON, THE WIFE, THE MOTHER, THE TEACHER (to d kids) and @ her place of work too, THE WORKER!!!!

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U blow dis out of proportion. As u r nw, aren't u a DAUGHTER, STUDENT OF KNOWLEDGE, SISTER, NAIRALANDER (+ others i dunno)........with none of dis roles interfering

[/quote]Allahu Akbar.. and what happens?..The husband doesnt know all of that...he only knows the cook nd 'wife' in her. The kids den love dia mum and daddies grow JEALOUS of dia own kids!
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Are u for real?? U just painted everybody wit d same brush dere. U mean dis is wot is happening every single muslim family?? Its definitely nt happening in mine, and propably nt in urs even though our parents are combining d roles effectively.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 7:43am On Nov 17, 2013
babylolaroy: @ifyjemila..wa iyyak
@broda Esji and dyfatai...thanx. mashaaAllah. Broda fatai wants to HIS WIFE to be the trainer of kids to learn the sahihs and the quran..mashaaAllah!!. i love that buh lets face one truth here...am just being objective o...in our nigeria of today, a woman cant proudly say it in public that she wnts to be the full house type. people will discourage her nd some will even abuse her.

Don't get it twisted muslimah, i just reread my post and i don't c nothing like house wife dere. Pious cld hav different translations, but house wife isnt one of dem.

Now the same woman is to be the COOK, THE LAUNDRY PERSON, THE WIFE, THE MOTHER, THE TEACHER (to d kids) and @ her place of work too, THE WORKER!!!!


U blow dis out of proportion. As u r nw, aren't u a DAUGHTER, STUDENT OF KNOWLEDGE, SISTER, NAIRALANDER (+ others i dunno)........with none of dis roles interfering

Allahu Akbar.. and what happens?..The husband doesnt know all of that...he only knows the cook nd 'wife' in her. The kids den love dia mum and daddies grow JEALOUS of dia own kids!


Are u for real?? U just painted everybody wit d same brush dere. U mean dis is wot is happening every single muslim family?? Its definitely nt happening in mine, and propably nt in urs even though our parents are combining d roles effectively.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 4:16pm On Nov 16, 2013
Esji80:

Bro. dyfatai it can start frm here o...In Q24:26 Allah s.w.t says GOOD MEN ARE FOR GOOD WOMEN and vice versa...
lol. jazak Allah khair. On a serious note, d@s where Qadar sets in, if it has been predestined by Allah, den all d pieces will just fall into place.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 10:23am On Nov 16, 2013
babylolaroy:
wa alayka salam. thanx ....was that a proposal or a compliment
its more of a compliment. Wot kinda man proposes on a social network? Well, not d kind d@ wants a wife d@'ll train his children 2 memorize d quran by TEN years of age, sahih bukhari nd muslim by FIFTEEN.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 4:40pm On Nov 15, 2013
harmeenart:
Seems u missed the sacarsm in my post.undecided
But seriously, come to think of it,if he can afford it,its not too much to ask.And please ,kindly explain what u mean by double starndard? I don't understand.
as to ur first point, i also posed my question in a friendly (sarcasm induced) tone.

To ur question, i guess i was 2 busy trying 2 make a point d@ i didn't bother minding d words i imported.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Is It Permissible To Close Your Eyes During Solat? by dyfatai(m): 3:41pm On Nov 15, 2013
@Op i will like to correct one thing, there is no scholar here on nairaland. Raising nairalands students of knowledge to d status of scholar is something to be frowned at. May allah forgive u and me
Politics / Re: Muslim And Christian Girls Stand-against Violence In Jos by dyfatai(m): 12:45pm On Nov 15, 2013
lirusehn: u can say dat again, buh it shud b addressed 2 ya fellow blooderz. We dnt nirit here.
ode nie
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 12:28pm On Nov 15, 2013
harmeenart: Wait o...But I think if he can afford it,then its not too much to ask,and he can top it wit a hajj ticket and recitation of some verses of the quran. grin
come to think of it, u sisters are claiming the men aren't as poor as d sohabas and therefore shouldn't use poverty as an excuse yet u still want private jet and hajj ticket 4 sadaq. Isn't d@ double standardly.
Islam for Muslims / Re: The Sunnah of Love by dyfatai(m): 12:14pm On Nov 15, 2013
babylolaroy: Ama woman o buh lemme rush and defend the men
Sometimes a married man means well and wud love to love his wife forever. Buh it comes like when 'bukata' enters and dey start making kids who need money for this and that, the man gets frustrated and feels like the whole responsibilty is heavily upon him. What men of nowadays dont know is that they are richer than most of the sahabas of the prophet and even MUHAMMAD s.a.w himself. was there not a sahaba who had nothing as dowry for his wife except some verses of the quran?
were there not days when the prophet tied stones around his tummy to make him feel weighty against the pangs of hunger?
so many instances. if our men now can manage any condition. Give it when yu av it and be polite to ur wife when you dont. That way she will also learn to trust and pray for you and accept whteva yu give ha

Now to we ladies..We let men think all we want is money. They think a woman can marry a sill.y man if hez rich..lets rewrite that story because it shouldnt be.
lets be like our mother Aisha who was the poor prophet's wife
lets think of our mother Fatimah who was his daughter. they all went hungry togeda. Even i think av read somewhere that there was when fatimah had just one cloth..subhanallah! And she happily stayed with ha husband Alli without complains.

So Akhis wa ukhtis, if we learn to accept all situations together and making the best of our marriages, we will love our partners more. i believe it is money issue that causes bitterness which then remove the love in marriage

play a game together. the prophet did horse riding togeda. if however yu r one rich family den do this togeda. for instance if yu av swimming pool in ur house, swim togeda to see who reaches d edge of the pool first. etc
the bone of contention sha is that love ur wife genuinely and wives, love ur husband unconditionally

may Allah make the brothers here husbands like Muhammad and may Allah make we sisters here wives like Aisha or Khadijah
Anytime i think of a wife 2 marry, i can't but think of one d@ has proper understanding of d deen like u. I've never met u, but u'll make a very wonderful wife to any man who is blessed 2 marry u. Salam
Politics / Re: Muslim And Christian Girls Stand-against Violence In Jos by dyfatai(m): 10:41am On Nov 15, 2013
Alhamdulillah. Treaty is supported in Islam. Lets there be no more bloodshed of innocent children and women
Religion / Re: The Bones Of St Peter Go On Display by dyfatai(m): 7:46am On Nov 15, 2013
onnairaland: WHAT A FIGHT!!!
What will u say to the Hindu or Moslems who don't believe in Christ Jesus.

Guy, this is nairaland. If u dnt get ur fact right, be sure 2 av @ least someone d@ will put u straight. Wherever did u get d concept d@ muslims dnt blieve in Jesus (P.B.U.H)? Actually, muslim do blieve HE was one of the mightiest prophets of God. We believe He was d messiah(Annointed). We blieve in His miraculous conception and Birth. We believe He healed d leapers and gave life 2 d dead by God's permission. Wat we don't do is to worship Him. We worship the God d@ sent Him.

NB:- maybe u dn't know d@ if a muslim mentions Jesus, he has to say 'Peace Be Upon Him'.

By name, Jesus (Peace Be Upon Him) was mentioned 23 times in d quran.

So, my distinguish friend, dont commit dat blunder again.

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