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If your answer is yes and you are in Lagos, dont miss this workshop coming up on tuesday, 31st Oct. You will be very glad you did

Nickibeauty:
thanks so much op , Pls where is oke aro farms locatated ?

In Ogun State

llakes4real:
Thank you for this information! Can one lease land in that Oke Aro Farms?

sorry i have been away for a while.
No, you cant lease land at Oke-aro. you can only lease pens

Excelleon:
I'm not the type that comments much but I think I have to say few things I've learnt in the business.
This is to all those that are interested in starting a pig business: A lot of people here are exploiters, so before you do anything make sure you confirm from different sources. Forget what they tell you and what they show you, a lot will tell you they have pure breeds, a lot will tell you they have pigs with rapid growth...they will reduce age of the pig so you can think they have fast growth, they will even tell you feeding them won't strain your pocket...hmmmm. A lot of people are ready to exploit you at every turn, even those that you'd think are bigger than the little you have... They don't mind adding your 1 thousand to their 10 million. Shine your eyes... Money is not easy to come by these days, don't let anyone take advantage of you.

Your head dey dia

bjhaid:
so you don't know
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Are you from Somali?

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god2good:
I'm interested too

Check ur mail again

Calebsky:
CAN HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF AGAIN?

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god2good:
I'm interested too

Respond to my mail me******@gmail.com

beautyfunke:
GOODLUCK!

Hi, sent you a mail..... Kindly respond; i have an offer that might interest you

donem:
Though OMOTOWO is a Plonker, but most people castigating him earlier on are the same people kissing Calebsky A.ss, i smell hypocrisy everywhere.

Been punting since 2008 have never for once paid for a football tip, wont n never will, i can gratify after the outcome.

Except the tipster is among the footballers playing, before i can consider paying for that particular match tip.

Football prediction has and would always remian 90% luck and 10% forecast, nothing is sure.

Though The truth is bitter like Alomo, just saying it as it is, Calebsky is a Top Tipster i hold in so much esteem no bad blood whatsoever.

Bros 2008?? Na pool u bin dey play dat time??

imhere:
Please, who knows where i can buy this containers for toothpick here in Nigeria, i am seriously in need of them If possible the price as well. Thanks

Are you in Lagos?? If yes, go to Ojota, beside the footbridge there is a street with a market where they sell chemicals and plastics..... Ask people around there and you may get a producer's contact

3rdavefarms:
Thanks so much .... The journey to the marketing scope starts now

Hi...... I just thought to add my thoughts. Broiler farming is like holding a grenade with the pin pulled out; it will explode in seconds if you dont throw it away fast. I dont know what practices you apply in your farm, but by 6-8weeks maxxx, your broilers should attain an average weight of 1.6-2.1kg which is the acceptable weight most slaughtered chicken processors buy i.e eateries. As a result, if you keep your birds longer than that moment they attain that weight, anything u feed them with is a waste and note that they are heavy consumers. Selling them to normal consumers is also a waste because it will take forever to sell plenty birds.

What i will suggest is this, especially for subsequent rearings: at the point when you buy new stock, your marketing starts immediately so that by the end of 8 weeks, you will have a ready market or 12 weeks, if you like. Write proposals to eateries and hotels and reataurants and places you know that deal in chicken. Also talk to individuals you know; church members, family, friends, neighbours, housewives and let them know u rear broilers and they wil be ready in x weeks. By doing this, u will have a ready market before they are mature and save yourself broiler stress.

Success!!

nams77:
A beautiful mind! You also mentioned pig community. I don't think we have that around here(warri). Thanks once again. Following your thread keenly

Tanks..... Goat rearing is fantastic and its something i also want to venture into in the nearest future when we are fully settled with our piggery. They require lesser care and are relatively inexpensive to feed when u compare them with pigs or poultry (the craziest livestock to rear). You can rear them alongside your pigs and u can rear both eastern and northern breeds too.

As per your location, pig farming is nonexistent in warri. I know this because buyers come to Okearo and Ikorodu from Warri and load specially constructed trucks with animals to sell down there. I dont know why there arent piggeries but i believe u have a real ready hungry starving and underserved market. You need a very long term deliberate strategy to keep u on the front edge of the market there.

i am interested. kindly email your proposal to dynamics4life@gmail.com

uvalued:
yes

Pls can we chat on whatsapp? my number is 08082310865

stpat1:
The number you posted is not reachable.

Whatsapp only

OP, is the software still available?

akpaaba:
I am interested in going into buying and selling of Pigs and i need somebody to put me through from the scratch. Are you into Pig marketing big time? Fellow Nairalanders, I need your assistance please help your brother. I am currently located in Aba. Thanks[sup][/sup]

do you have a readily available market? what volume are you looking at doing?

From the numerous whatsapp messages I have gotten and am still getting, it is obvious that agriculture is the way to go because of its uniqueness – caring for life. But it’s such a shame that in every area that should be a money spinner, crooks abound in droves, ready to fleece whoever shows the capacity to spend. My mom and I were discussing this weekend about an encounter she had with our former attendant last week. The attendant was narrating how people were running in and running out of the farm after being bled dry with nothing to show. It is common to see and hear angry exchanges between new farmers and those who introduced them to the business because what was promised and invested did not tally with what was returned. If after reading this my long boring pieces you still fall mugu, you need to be flogged seriously.

Most of the messages I have been getting border on some of the issues I have outlined already in my earlier posts, but it seems I hid them, lol, so let me reiterate them:

Firstly, you MUST have a primary income source before delving into pig farming because it is very capital intensive. Don’t wait till you retire or are sacked and then use your entitlements/handshakes to start. The business will run you out eventually and you will join the bandwagon of those blaming others for their woes. You need to have an INITIAL investment then you should have monthly running costs to care for the business till such a time as you can start feeding off it. This is true with piggery as it is with any other business.

Secondly, please don’t ever do pig farming by proxy. If you or your spouse or a very close trusted person cannot be available up to 3 times a week to monitor the animals, sanitation, feeding, stock level etc especially during birthing, abeg don’t come in. you will definitely regret the decision to join.

Don’t give anyone money to buy anything for you or startup for you. Go and see what you want to pay for and pay for it and take it and leave with it. Don’t get scammed please. The only thing every newbie must do is to go along with someone who knows the terrain very well, who will help u look at the animals with an experienced eye and determine which will be best to stock your herd with. Not all good looking animals are good and not all bad looking animals are bad. Also don’t fall for all those crappy longwinded stories about biosecurity, improved superb stock, bla bla bla. You can create yours over time, it’s not rocket science. I can say a lot on this but the bottomline is this: Go with someone who knows the terrain so you don’t get duped pricewise and animalwise.

Also, don’t get swayed by figures and statistics. Seek knowledge because it is the only thing that will help you when all else fails. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. I have talked about weight gain. Ask anyone who boasts of incredible weights how old his animal is. Now here is the crazy fact; there are two ages in pig farming; the period from birth till now and the period from when the animal was bought till now. Imagine I bought an animal and kept it for 10 months and it attained a weight of 100kg, is the animal 10 months old?? What if I bought it as a 6 month old grower, is it still 10 months?? Do you understand this?? Read up and hear what the whites who own these exotic breeds say about the weight and one Nigerian will be bamboozling us with stories.

I asked you to decide on if it would be better to start with pregnant females or weaners, now let me be clear: no mature farmer will ever buy a pregnant animal because of the negatives I stated in that post. Imagine someone selling a pregnant sow for 65k and another last week was talking about 95k. For what nau?? Don’t try it else you will hear it hot.

I have come again with my breed brouhaha. This is why wars are fought and enemies are eventually made. Pig farming and livestock rearing should be all about improving your strain and raising the best animals through your own special program. Buy normal cheap females and then the only animal you should spend premium cash on is a male because therein lies the key to your breeding program’s success. Aren’t all those exotic breeds an actualization of somebody’s dreams? Why not create your own superb breed yourself in 5-7 years?? We are doing that and we are getting terrific results. You should too.

I will try to talk more on other issues but I need entrants to get these initial facts straight. Missing them is akin to hanging yourself with your own rope.

I am available to answer any questions you might have. Thanks to everyone who appreciates and everyone who has been emboldened to take that first step after reading this thread. You will succeed because the market is so wide that nobody can fill it, but wisdom is needed to be able to tap in.

MhissIfe:
How many productive cycle? I mean how many years do those sows produce?

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You mate them till you are tired or till their production levels drop..... But d beauty is that with each farrowing, they keep adding serious weight.

MhissIfe:
I agree with you, with proper feeding, 50-65 kg within 6-7 months.

Sometimes what is difficult for one person might be easier for another person.

Consequently, the gestation period of pig is always 113-115 days, which is almost 4 months before the nursing period.

Also, 8 months is too much to reach market size for a well fed pig. Though market size varies.

Good market sizes for pigs starts from 50kg upwards

Hmmm.... He is a newbie; test-running is deadly. He needs to learn.

FashPet:
It depends on the level of your experience and training my brother.
You could have gotten both if you have resources to acquire them. Weaners will give you experience on how to nurture piglets from the scratch and to prove all the information you knew based on breeds, feeds/feeding patterns. Also having pregnant sows will also afford you an opportunity to know how to take care of a pregnant sows and nurture till delivery; witnessing the delivery and nurturing the piglets from the first day.
Consequently in business wise, the weaners you acquired would have been reaching their market sizes at the time the newly farrowed would be reaching 8 weeks, thereby you can sell and use the money to nurture the farrowed piglets to their market size also.

Let me stop here for contributions from others.

Hmmmm........ Buying pregnant sows is a no-no...... If experienced farmers can never buy it, what justification does a newbie have to do so?? It is no easy feat nuturing newborns..... I can tell you because once your sow farrows, you must be at alert esp during the first week and you must go there daily to ensure they dont have complications or life threatening issues like the common stooling which kills them off anyhow.

Also it takes an average of 8-10months for a weaner to attain market weight. The pregnant sow will farrow in 2 months or less and they suckle for 2 months before they are weaned making it a total of 4 months..... Your weaners just turned growers.

castins:
My pig pen is almost ready, am a beginners, advice please. Do I go for weaner or pregnant ones, which one will be best for me to start with, am just new , pls advice. Am based in PH.

Vickifeanyi is correct. Buying growers is safer esp as you intend to breed. Never ever buy a pregnant animal. Its a dangerous shortcut that could be very disappointing and its definitely a price ripoff that you can never make up..... Dont mind whatever they tell you about the beauty of owning a pregnant female

MhissIfe:
If you say they can give birth 2.5 times a year, what does that mean?
Love this formular Lagbaja but will like to ask if cassava peels can replace whole cassava? Those worried about piglets, weaners and growers i think it work if the lysine , meth levels are ajusted. Fortification with enzymes will make it more digestible.
Lets keep this thread alive. Ogas are too silent o!

2.5 times a year means the farrow twice and are pregnant before the 12-month year cycle runs out. But i always have a problem with not allowing them to rest at all before they get pregnant after each weaning and the piglets dont get to stay for a complete 8 week suckling period

MhissIfe:
You must mean rooting. Pigs are not destructive. On the contrary they are very curious and intelligent animals. You have to make sure that their houses(pens/rooms) are not too high and the gates are iron but not fully covered so that they can always see what is going on.
Now, sometimes you have to observe your animal and study the times that it is displaying this kind of behaviour. It might just be that it's unsettled or hungry.
what a nice thread this is!
Please what causes d destructive tendencies pigs display ?
I supply pkc at affordable price . thanks

Hehehehehe!!! Its destructive tendency na. Sometimes i feel like conking them on the head with a heavy metal

ebena107:
Thank you for this inspiring piece.

I am a newbie with a peculiarity of unavailability of cluster pig farm around here. I am currently building a 30 rooms pen and digging a well for the water supply. any further advice on how a newbie can survive and learn the rope alone?

Also, how possible is it to get quality and pure bred Camborough pigs for a starter? or any advice on other good and high performing breed for starting a breeding herd?

Thanks

Hi

Sorry i havent been able to post for a while. Where do you reside as that would be helpful in knowing what to say concerning your new venture and sourcing for a good camborough boar.

But you need to ask yourself this: how do you intend to manage the smell and the huge amount of waste you will be generating on a daily basis?? A soakaway cannot help u except u are determined to build one that is as big as your land and as deep as 10 feet and then build your piggery on it

JideJamez:
Trust nobody

I have been trying to ignore your posts but i dont think i can any longer. I believe u are old enough and mature enough to know that what you are doing is very childish and immature. Why are u talking from the corner of your mouth and dropping snide comments upandan?? You have been griping to the extent of opening another thread and dropping your clueless accusation.

If you are confident that you have been scammed and you want to talk, talk abeg and mention names because at the end of it all, methinks all you are trying to do is to seek cheap attention which i have just given you.

wole1968:
i have some piglet that are excreting salad cream faeces, which antibiotic would be best for them

They are purging. You should urgently give them oral flagyll; the tablets we humans take. Grind, mix with water and administer with a syringe deepthroat, once daily for three days.
How old are they?

Jideams:
Exactly, the animals cannot be fed on 500k/month as they grow older. The attachment are as follows

Total pigs in the house - Shows the number of pigs in the house each month starting from 10 in January to 760 in Dec at different stages of growth.
Feeding cost per month - shows the feeding cost per month based on 3600 Naira for a Matured dry sow.
Running feeding cost - Shows the cumulative cost a the until the end of the year.


So in January, I will be spending 36,000 Naira to raise 10 adult pigs, while in December I will spend 1.160Million Naira on feed for 760 Pigs.
For the year, I will need 6Million naira on feeding alone. But by the time i start selling 100 pigs a month in month 13th (second year) I will have
a turn over of 3.5million a month with total extimated cose of not more than 2 million.

In addition,I do not plan to fatten any pig for more than 7months. My Target weight is 75 - 80 in 7months

Your estimates are very high. But all i can say is start first then get a practical experience of the real costs of feeding your animals.