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Maximus69:
Anybody can quote God's word but the application is where most people have problems, because it's through the right application that the BENEFITS could be derived! Isaiah 48:17-18

You said someone should learn to fear God whereas God's word says the fear of God is the beginning of WISDOM {Proverbs 1:7} so where is that promised WISDOM in your argument?

You're claiming Jesus is this, Jesus is that, but there's nothing to show that wisdom is operating in your midst {James 2:18-26} perhaps you don't know what you're doing is called "sin against God's holy spirit" {Mark 3:29} because you're abusing the spirit of God by challenging the one and only group that's producing the FRUIT of God's holy spirit {Matthew 5:11-12} whereas LOOK! you have no better performing group to present! Galatians 5:22-23

If the Bible cannot convince you of the deity of Jesus then I can't help you either...
My submission still remains the same. Jesus Christ is God Almighty by virtue of the facts that He has the names of God, the attributes of God, and the authority of God; He does the works of God; and He is worshiped as God and He is sinless.

Janosky:
1 Corinthians 3:23 , John 20:17. Ephesians 4:6.
Ephesians 1:3.

Prayerfully Study and receive SENSE from these Scriptures listed..

Read Hebrews 1:6-9, Titus 2:13, John 20:28, Colossians 2:9... There are many Bible verses that portray Jesus as God...
You should learn to fear God!

Read Hebrews 1:6-9, Colossians 2:9, Titus 2:13, John 20: 28...
Learn to fear God...

Janosky:
Jehovah Tshidekenu is not the Almighty God in the same manner that Jehovah jireh is not the Almighty God., Genesis22:14.

Exodus 6:3. Psalms 83:18 Jehovah is God Almighty. (ASV).

Don't deceive yourself

If Jehovah Jireh and Jehovah Tdsikenu is not Almighty God then who is the Almighty God.

Janosky:
Artful dodger, John 5:37, pls explain. Acts 3:13, Pls explain.

Who ask you wetin dey for Revelation 22:1,3? Tomorrow if you fail JAMB/UTME you begin blame God

The Bible speaks for itself. No need to jump up and down with you.

Janosky:
John 5:37, pls explain.
Acts 3:13, Pls explain.

Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, There will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His bond-servants will serve Him;
Revelation 22:1‭, ‬3 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/rev.22.1-3.NASB
There is one throne of God and the Lamb... Not thrones...

Maximus69:
I'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses, all of us believe the same thing Sir/Ma so you're free to approach any of my brothers and sisters in your neighbourhood. Ask them questions if what you are reading here is interesting to you, but if you're not ready for that please worship your God the best way you know!

I was telling you that Jesus Christ which is the righteous Branch, the promised King shall be called THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS ( Jehovah Tdsikenu).. He can't be called what he is not.

Maximus69:
He is NOT the God of Moses!
Of course he worked with God during the time of creation {Proverbs 8:22-30} but Jehovah never shared his glory with any of his creatures. Isaiah 42:8
Jesus was created and he is playing his part in God's arrangement. That doesn't make him our God!
He will rule for 1000 years but Jehovah will take over rulership from him afterwards! 1Corinthians 15:26-28
So Jesus only served as God during those days he walked the earth, that's why Isaiah could say "he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace" {Isaiah 9:6} because his service as God just like Moses {Exodus 7:1} WAS within a time frame, no wonder John could say "and the word WAS God" {John 1:1} take note of the past tense, this was because by the time John was writing his gospel account Jesus has finished his earthly assignment!
So the one who has always been God right from the beginning till eternity remains our God {Exodus 6:2-3; Psalms 83:18} NOT Jesus!

God bless you!

Please help me explain this--->Behold, the days come, saith the Lord , that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE Lord OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
Jeremiah 23:5‭-‬6 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/jer.23.5-6.KJV

chidifrank:
Pls Maximus, don't compare nor place Jesus n Moses in d same place. It's a sin. JESUS is d son of God and was presence before d foundation of ds world both heaven n earth. Moses is just a man like me n you born of a woman. the laws Moses talked about is all about JESUS but not all Moses knew abt Jesus dts why Jesus came to ds earth to reveal n tell us some more about Him which Moses did not tell cos he did not know. JESUS is d son of d Almighty God n co-head to His throne. What your father is you may not be but God so much love Jesus dt He made him b Glorified just like Himself. So yes, Jesus is God. Call Him a representation of God cos no man can see God but only the Son Jesus

Jesus Christ is the God of Moses as He is the God of Abraham and all humanity.

post=93233555:
Yes, but did you hear any Mosques or Alhajis making an issue of this so far?
We rest our case!
We are watching the outcome.

Section 839 (1) and (2) provides that religious bodies and non-governmental organisations will be strictly regulated by the Registrar-General of Corporate Affairs Commission, CAC, and a supervising minister.

It is best decision the federal government has made in recent times.. This new law will bring sanity into the operations of many of these non profit organizations.

The best decision the Nigerian government has ever made is regulating the church.

It is unafrican to knell down and ask a girl "will you marry me?". Europeans do that. In Africa, a man tells the woman, I want to marry you, I want to see your parents. Go and tell them that I am coming to ask for your hand in marriage! That's how we do it[/quote]I love this!

petra1:
Not against personal enemies but against the evil plans and works of the enemies . Especially the enemies against the work of God

Kindly help me differentiate between a personal enemy and an enemy that is against God's work...

[color=#000099][/color]There is nothing wrong with the law. It is the same law their branches adhere to in the U.S and the U.K.

OtemAtum:
OK, but that's the reality anyway. Praying is like chasing clout. It's a form of unproductive idleness.

From where did you learn all these?

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Homo Sapiens III 15:12 sacrifices are useless and prayers are for the weak. But he who wants to be great will use his head to think deep, be his own god and do good to his fellow[/quote][/color]

OtemAtum:
It's obvious the OP hasn't read the book of Homosapiens. Read it and you'll see how useless prayers are.

Homo Sapiens III 15:12 sacrifices are useless and prayers are for the weak. But he who wants to be great will use his head to think deep, be his own god and do good to his fellow

Oga cool down.

CodeTemplar:
God is a consuming fire.

Consuming those whom he wants to repent from their sins? Haven't you read in the Bible He is also a merciful God?

CodeTemplar:
Seeing it is a righteous thing with God to recompense tribulation on those that trouble the saints.

Surely God will punish an unrepentant evil doer...
Should such prayers be a part of a Christian prayer? Prayers like " die by fire", "fall down and die" are they suitable for christians..

shadeyinka:
1. The persistent widow was asking the king to get justice for her due to her her enemies.
She wasn't asking the king to kill, maim, demote her enemies. She simply asked the king to get her JUSTICE!
2. Is seeking Justice the same thing as seeking a revenge?


There is no scripture that says a Christian cannot REPORT those who hurt them to God.

We have only one enemy as Christians:
Eph6:12-13
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Anyone who fights against a human being as the enemy does not know the scriptures

You are quite correct.

shadeyinka:
1. The persistent widow was asking the king to get justice for her due to her her enemies.
She wasn't asking the king to kill, maim, demote her enemies. She simply asked the king to get her JUSTICE!
2. Is seeking Justice the same thing as seeking a revenge?


There is no scripture that says a Christian cannot REPORT those who hurt them to God.

We have only one enemy as Christians:
Eph6:12-13
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Anyone who fights against a human being as the enemy does not know the scriptures

You are quite correct.

shadeyinka:
1. The persistent widow was asking the king to get justice for her due to her her enemies.
She wasn't asking the king to kill, maim, demote her enemies. She simply asked the king to get her JUSTICE!
2. Is seeking Justice the same thing as seeking a revenge?


There is no scripture that says a Christian cannot REPORT those who hurt them to God.

We have only one enemy as Christians:
Eph6:12-13
12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. 13 Therefore put on the full armor of God, so that when the day of evil comes, you may be able to stand your ground, and after you have done everything, to stand.

Anyone who fights against a human being as the enemy does not know the scriptures

Thanks for taking the time to answer my question... A Christian is not supposed to pray against enemies but to pray for them.

shadeyinka:
@Eagban
Lk 6:27-28
27But to those of you who will listen, I say: Love your enemies , do good to those who hate you,
28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

Somebody quoted Luke 18:1-8, as a justification for praying against our enemies.

I just want to know this. Should a Christian pray imprecatory prayers i.e prayers for evil to befall your enemies. Is it not sinful to pray such prayers?

davidinchrist:
If anyone is REALLY concerned about pleasing Jesus and entering his Kingdom, here is what you need:

John.14.15 - "IF you LOVE me, OBEY my commandments (in the New testament, especially Matthew, Mark, Luke and John).

Question: Did Jesus or any of his apostles command it? ZERO! They taught 'cheerful giving' NOT compulsory giving of the law. In Matt. 23:23, Jesus was talking to Religious hypocrites, Pharisees NOT his disciples.

Jesus is constantly about IF, not by force: if people don't want to obey or follow him, and strictly want to go to hell; right, he doesn't FORCE or STOP them. "It's "IF" you love me, obey me..."

Again, for those who are very careful about God's kingdom, if you're not sure about something, just use these four tests by the Holy Spirit using the scriptures:

1. Did Jesus do it? (Matthew - John)

2. Did Jesus preach it? (Matthew - John)

3. Did the apostles do it? (Acts - Revelation)

4. Did the apostles preach it? (Acts - Revelation)

Friends, if it loses these four counts, and I have no personal command from God to do such, then ALL the Great Pastors/Church founders and their followers can preach it; threaten and FOOL people with self-made, Religious LIES as much as they like, but not for me in Jesus name. Because EVERYONE is a LIAR compare to Christ. Rom. 3:4.

And remember:
Rom.10.4 - For Christ is THE END OF THE LAW for righteousness to EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES.

May the Lord Jesus bless you.

Simple! If Jesus Christ did not preach it or do it, then any Christian should not do it or preach it.

alBHAGDADI:
You people know nada, yet you pose like an authority on the Bible.

Look at how you are trying to rubbish Abraham's tithe by calling it spoils of war. Since when did spoils of war stop amounting to what you worked for? Or do you think fighting a battle is child's play?

Abraham fought and got the spoils of war. He gave God ten percent. He did that to acknowledge that he didn't win that battle himself but with the help of God. Or how else do you think Abraham and his 300 men conquered ten Kings and their armies?

It's the same thing as going to work and getting paid out of which you pay tithe to God because he's really the one that made it possible for you to have that job, not your might.

You don't understand the concept behind animal sacrifice. It was a picture of Jesus Christ the Holy Lamb. They sacrificed animals to pay for their sins in anticipation of when Jesus Christ will be sacrificed so that we will no longer rely on the blood of bulls and rams but on his blood as payment for our sins.

If Abel, Abraham and Jacob were alive today, they won't be sacrificing animals but relying on the one time sacrifice of Jesus.

Mind you, because the Bible never recorded that Abraham tithed again doesn't mean he never did. Or are we to conclude that Abraham never brushed his teeth or used the toilet because no such record exists?

Please just shut up because you know nothing. Shut up or God will punish you for posing as knowledgeable on top of your ignorance. My Frank advice.

You are turning the Bible upside down!

WhisperedNoise:
Buhahahahahahaha
So because i disagreed with you, I'm not a Christian?
That is rich!

Mammonic mindset? That's richer.

Dear sir, I'm not saying that we should put our trust in money. Nope. Neither am i saying we should serve money or mammon. Os cof not.

What I don't understand in your diatribe is how adamantly you are opposing kingdom wealth.

Jesus spoke more about money than he did about prayer, faith and the realities of heaven and hell. Yes, you read that right.

Me serving the god of mammon because I said you should stop vituperating B.Oyedepo?
Permit me, but "mad ooo.

Anyways, on the last day when we stand before God in judgement, I pray that your words don't come back to haunt you.

Selah.

PS: What exactly, dear sir, is your issue with money and wealth sef?
Or don't you know, sir, that wealth is one of the tools for massive kingdom dominion?

Kingdom wealth and kingdom dominion are phrases coined by Oyedepo to hoodwink gullible individuals.