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Mitocyan:
So if a Christian bears Ogunkola it means he believes in Ogun?

scientists act by what they believe, they gave the constellations this name ,cos they believe their existence,you may be anxious to see God before you believe he exists,
then how do dreams come about??
many times I dreamed it happens exactly xame way It happened in my dream, I will be like this event have occurred somewhere before ,then I may remember It occurred in my dream,
what your answer to that??
you may call It hallucination

Mitocyan:
I have said over and over again that you don't need to understand big bang and evolution before you can see that the claims of the religions of today are not true. So the fact that you don't understand how these things work and you don't want to make efforts to does not make your religion right. As a matter of fact there are atheists before the big bang and evolution theory were propounded. So this your point is not strong.

Then why are scientists naming constellations after mythological creatures and beings ,if they do not believe in supernatural beings ,why should they do so??

Ekemeze:
Were you there when the "big bang" happened? I guess is no.

Nice question ,
they don't believe In God cos they ve not seen him ,but blindly believe in bigbang theory and evolution ,as if they witnessed it

nairaman66:
If the Big Bang is to be taken serious, I suppose no life on earth would have survived! Don’t you think? What about the Steady State theory? These are mere assertions by physicists, mathematicians as well as astronomers!!

Whenever the Big Bang theory comes to play, evolution lacks its foundation Vice versa! You need to understand that’s why it’s referred to as a “THEORY”.

Exactly bro ,these guys are just forcing themselves to accept atheism ,deep inside them their conscience is divided,even renowned atheists later retraced their steps when it dawned on them

NuissancePolice:
Funny thing is they never attended to any of the 10 questions posited in the original post.

The 3rd question you guys Lost it ,check it out and. see for yourself

NuissancePolice:
Your entire argument is based on the premise that the bible in itself is indeed an authority but I do not want to debate that inorder not to lose track of the subject. Assuming the bible is infact God's word and a record of events that actually happened, the question is can you point to any christian in our era that has done any "work" greater than Jesus with evidence? E.g. Jesus christ plugged back the ear of one of his disciples that were chopped off, turned water into wine, walked on water etc. These are objective proofs that prove supernaturality.

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@bolded, lets say that the people you referred to here did not believe. Well, how about you? Have you experienced any of these supernatural events through you? Have you done any works atleast comparable with that of Jesus christ since you believe? The converse implication of the bold claim that says "these signs shall follow them that believe" is that if you do not experience them, you are an unbeliever. Are you a believer based on these?



What I am doing is beyond looking for miracles. I am only probing the validity of your bible based on what it claims. I am simply just putting it to test just the way I would if any scientist come up with a new discovery. Imagine a scientist coming up with an equation that can be used to build a HIV cure or vaccine, shouldn't the equation be tested? Be reasonable. Not everyone is looking to mock God. If your bible had sad, those that believe in him will have green blood for instance, that is what I will ask yourself to show me. If indeed God is real, then he must honour everything he said in his book else he is either a or his book was made up by people.

bro I will say you are forcing urself not to believe in Gods existence due to some FACtors but deep inside you ,you are aware

larride:
Are you saying that Jesus isn’t real and He never existed?

Don't mind them bro ,most of them saying they don't believe in God ,believe in diabolic and fetish elements, who is deceiving who

bobowaja:
Lol... God of the gaps. Just plug in a god and go to bed. Never use "we dont know", always use "God did it".

Exactly bro ,God did it ,
cos it is beyond human comprehension, seeing a dead body buried in lime over 800 years ago still fresh and bleeding is stunning,
cos mummies dont look fresh or bleeds

Mitocyan:
Honestly I don't know how hard it is for people to understand. The day I understood this simple concept was the day I bade farewell to religion.

U have not understood it all,
the more I try to unravel the existence of God ,
the more confused I am,

LordReed2nd:
It is religious people who usually cite Darwin as an example of an atheist. Darwin was studying to be a pastor so his beliefs have nothing to do with his scientific findings. Similarly, Newton was a Christian who believed in the return of Jesus, it doesn't change the fact that his work lead us to better understanding of gravity and how the universe works.

astronauts and astrologers never believed God exists but they named some constellations after mythical Gods and Creatures ,is that not lame

Mitocyan:
Lol if any sane scientists describes an event as a miracle we can be sure he means it figuratively and not literally.

admittedly they could not prove the cause or give reasons, whether they said it figuratively or literally , if you put urself in their shoes you will do xame

Mitocyan:
Ok I think I get you now. What you have in mind is a deist(look it up for the full description) not atheist. The renowned Mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss was a Deist. He rejected all religion but still felt the existence of God was possible. A God whose character does not fit into any of those described by the known religions.

No I don't mean deist ,Darwin was a pure atheist until he saw the prove of God's existence and retraced his step

bobowaja:
Lack of believe in gods or deities.
He said you committed a fallacy by referring to Darwin in your post which you did and you even went further to assume (which is another fallacy).

You must understand that this is a discussion, not an argument. So there is no need to go extreme to prove a point.

OK I got you, check my disco with mitocyan and see the prove the of Gods existence

Mitocyan:
So how do we know it is God doing these things and not a process we have not yet understood?

bro I don't think science will even unravel or understand that mystery, scientists have already declared it a miracle officially,cause all their years in research have been futile

bobowaja:
Then, what is atheist and what is fallacy? Let's start from there.

Even a kindergarten kid no that atheist is someone that doesn't pledge allegiance to any religion

bobowaja:
Then, what is atheist and what is fallacy? Let's start from there.

I may call this your question dump question

Mitocyan:
So what does this prove? At some point scientist didn't have the answer to communication over the internet of two people far apart. Here we are talking to each other without even knowing one another's location today?

That is a real prove of God existence, cos normally dead bodies are supposed to decay in in 2 or 3 years I guess ,
but seeing a dead body buried in decaying agent in 1145 still fresh and bleeding, Even producing sweet scents as at now is a mindblowing miracle ,
check it out on Google and watch the video,u will hardly believe that is a dead body ,u will think they are sleeping

bobowaja:
Please check the following words meanings: 1. Fallacy 2. Atheist

Can you put my knowledge to test, I don't think you got me

Mitocyan:
Because they are all made up hogwash by people that didn't know much. So why do you believe in the existence of God? Has he helped you raise a dead man before?

Have you not heard of places like Guadalupe, sienna,Assisi, Fatima, just to mention a few
many Catholic saints are incorruptible so many years after death ,most recent one died in 1968 but their body have defied decaying, some are still bleeding since 1233 ,sweet scents oozing out from some of the bodies,
scientist have no answer to this miracle ,because some of them are buried in lime ,
check It out and attest to that

bobowaja:
You committed a fallacy of authority and he pointed it out. And why did you assume he is a follower of Darwin? That itself is another fallacy.

Nothing like fallacy in what I said,these scientists are the real atheists but they believed

Mitocyan:
No nothing like witches. If there were they would have been employed during the civil war. People would have milked cbn dry by now. I don't want to go into the endless scenarios that can arise if they exist. Please those statements are complete rubbish.

U have not witnessed or heard some of their fetish tricks and stunts before,
I don't believe in fetish and diabolic elements, but I strongly believe in the existence of God

NuissancePolice:
Do you have any answers to any of the 10 quesrions raised on the OP?

There are a lot of miracles in this era,my friend who is a die hard aspiring astronaut and astrologer was in doubts like u before ,
I surely guess you believe in the existence of diabolic elements like witches attack and traditional gods like amadioha and co

NuissancePolice:
The bolded is a classic example of the Fallacy of Relevance. Appealing to authority to support your argument won't change the position of the fact.

am not appealing to any authority, I just mentioned someone who comes to mind when we talk of atheists but he believed in God,
let me ask you,: are miracles natural occurrence??

NuissancePolice:
The bolded is a classic example of the Fallacy of Relevance. Appealing to authority to support your argument won't change the position of the fact.

am not appealing to any authority, I just mentioned someone who comes to mind when we talk of atheists but he believed in God

NuissancePolice:
The bolded is a classic example of the Fallacy of Relevance. Appealing to authority to support your argument won't change the position of the fact.

I am not appealing to any authority to support my argument, I just mentioned someone u may be looking up to ,someone who comes to mind when we talk of atheists ,but he believed in. God

You go demolish buildings tire ,before u have enough space to build the bicycle path

Mitocyan:
Lol it doesn't matter. Even Isaac Newton Belived there was God. But it is on records today that over 90% of members of academy of science are atheists. And we are both sure that they are more knowledgeable than Charles Darwin and Isaac Newton because knowledge evolves. Admittedly they haven't had as much impact as these two.

Bro ,probably God exists ,people are just anxious to see him one on one before they believe

NuissancePolice:
I believe in the big bang, evolution, quantum mechanics and relativity.

I believe in things that are real. God is not real.

U don't believe that there is God,one of the Greatest scientist Charles Darwin believed God exist

NuissancePolice:
I believe in the big bang, evolution, quantum mechanics and relativity.

I believe in things that are real. God is not real.

U don't believe that there is God,one of the Greatest scientist Charles Darwin believed God existing

Mitocyan:
Good move Nuisancepolice. I'm atheist and I like this discussion.

Shake hand

why running from ur cows nah just watching you people