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Going With your conduct here, who won't be sick and tired of you

They were misguided. They operated an independent structure without concrete back. Nigeria at the time wasn't a place where idealogical battles could be fought and an sympathy received. Tyrants ruled and most parts of africa then had tyrants rruling. Hijacking a plane which needed to land in africa before their onward journey was a big mistake.

iamdurent:
Ignorance is no excuse to be stopid

and yet you can't spell "stopid"

jenigurl:

well just as sterotyped. Beauty without brains. Have some self esteem sha in future. Don't go tripping on a little attention a man showed ur way. Goodday

jenigurl:
Does this actually work? Gosh!

this must be the first time a man is flirting with you. Why u tripping and taking it serious. You taking this serious ? Wow . U must really be needy. This is a place of fun oh. Its all for laughs . Scroll through my posts, you would have known that.

jenigurl:
I wonder please who is she?

well tell her we said she is beautiful. And she can always inquire from her daddy how much he wants, some of us here are declaring strong interests

This one is here writing a gay novel.

If you ask me to carry your baby, I will faint. I don't know why but I thank God am not alone in this freak phobia. They scare the hell outa me. I no want gbese. How will I explain that the thing fell down. Or dat I didn't pinch it cuasing all the weeping and wailing. Mba biko

jenigurl:
Gosh!
But why?

why are u trying to scam us here. Who is that gal on ur dp.

Blos, that man flom the other side with a biggi shop at lagus, has maney. Plent plenty maney. Abia state govt salary is peanuts , thus the gal is moving to her permanent site. Please bid her farewell and look for a decent lady who isn't a gold digger. Cheers

mercyville:
You are the weak ones who would rather bomb inanimte objects in the dead of night or give ultimatums.If Yorubas make up their minds to leave Nigeria now,all of you cannot stop us because it would be a well thought out move and the system used would be very potent but right now,most of us not all are still enjoying ONE NIGERIA

YOU SAID:

Because you are too weak to speak out, and rather take the coward stance to bow to the north and feed off crumbs

;DYORUBAS HAD NEVER BEEN TOO WEAK IN THEIR GLORIOUS LIVES BUT THEY ARE GREAT THINKERS WHO AT THE END OF THE DAY TAKE HOME THE WINNERS' CUP WHEN THEY EVENTUALLY SEE THE NEED TO GO TO WAR.YORUBAS ARE CONSIDERATE WARRIORS WHO HAVE FOUGHT LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL WARS FOR A PERIOD OF 100 YEARS WHEN YOU AND YOUR PARENTS DID NOT KNOW LEFT FROM RIGHT.Yoruba saved the whole SOUTH from being enslaved by the fulanis like they did to the hausas.Yorubas would decimate you with their eyes closed but a tiger does not shout its tigritude

as usual, mouthy with facts and distorted history gotten from ur rectum. Won't waste my time with ur ilk.

MarieSucre:
Oh I see, well some women, actually a lot of women don't like to be told that it's their fault that some people are downright evil and will continue to be evil.

So if you cannot understand why that is so from the woman's perspective. Then you'll have to understand that from the man's perspective. Which unfortunately includes anal rape. :-)

well we will simply read their rape stories here with picture evidence. Till then . Cheers

MarieSucre:
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Men should not wear inappropraite cloths in areas that could harbour homosexuals, men should endeavour not be walk in strange and lonely alleyways at night, men should ensure they have an escort when they go drinking especially with guys who they're not too familiar with or look rich, men should be careful when trusting strsngers and their demands, for instance you might be lucky that one bris might allow you crash at his place, but then he drugs and you wake up to him busting your asshole. These and many more will help to safe guard them. Those who do not follow these rules, and walk alone in a dark alley. especially where they're guys that konji have hold and they smoke igbo at night and get raped, will get my blames...yes BLAME

ok we are done here, enjoy ur weekend

MarieSucre:
Well those people are help them get justice What are you doing?

I am pointing out the fact that they also have a role to play in their plight. In many abuse and familiar rape cases, there is always a precedent. They should be able to iddentify red flags in their situations and act accordingly. Those who refuse to identify this, should be bla$ed and told to use their number "6"

MarieSucre:
Men are also sexual beings. Of course they're are going to have sexual descriptions.

How is it offensive?

I don't know the type of men you have been relating with, but don't generalise. Some men if not most like me, don't like sexual refrences made of us. Especially gay refrences

MarieSucre:
Well unfortunately if some muscular guy we're to rape you and say it's coz he liked how you dressed and you usually strolled by his house in the evening. I Hope then you'd be able to victim-blame yourself.

But for these other women. They don't need you to shame them. If you have nothing good to contribute to their lives. it's best you hold you peace.

I have something to contribute to them, sometimes via their conduct they place themselves in compromsing situations that could make them easy preys to the evils of the world. They shoul watch their conducts as it serves to suppport the efforts of our law men towards protecting the polity. Women should not wear inappropraite cloths in areas that could harbour hooligans, women should endeavour not be walk in strange and lonely alleyways at night, women should ensure they have an escort when they go drinking , women should be careful when trusting strsngers and their demands. These and many more will help to safe guard them. Those who do not follow these rules, and walk alone in a dark alley at night and get raped, will get my blames...yes BLAME

MarieSucre:
looooolz. I am woman. I don't know what women you have been around but women can do and say whatever they want to say. You need to stop generalizing women.

The point of my post is put you in the shoes of rape victims. You have not walked in the shoes that pinch.

well I am a man, and I do not want sexual descriptions of my being. Its offensive. Let's keep it clean. Thanks

MarieSucre:
looooolz. I am woman. I don't know what women you have been around but women can do and say whatever they want to say. You need to stop generalizing women.

The point of my post is put you in the shoes of rape victims. You have not walked in the shoes that pinch.

I don't need to walk in their shoes to understand what they feel, do the judges and policemen who arrest rapist have to be raped first to do their jobs against those peeps ? Cmon

MarieSucre:
I'm sorry that you find it offensive. But it's hypocritical seeing as we are on a post about a dead woman who was raped and had her head bashed in. Yet you can still comfortably victim-blame when you have never experienced rape or sexual assault.

scroll up and read my earlier mention of you. I never blamed the subject victim of this post, I rather mentioned you and disagreed with ur views against any form of victim blaming. And I still disagree on dat. Has nothing to do with the badoo and the woman scenario

MarieSucre:
No I did correct. You can go back to read it. It has not been deleted yet. You did say some children wanted to have sex.
You did not clarify any further. So I had to do it for you.

My example does not deal with paedophilia part here, but the recognizing of signs part.

So what if you're grown man? And you were still raped in the ass? What then?

Who's fault is it?

women aren't always this explcit with sexual inuendos, I know ur profile indicates "f" . Its possible you are a male. So stop dat mention of sexual inuendos. Last time bro or dear

MarieSucre:
The point is not about me, but about the fact that people can be good. So bad people have zero excuse. Like the one you're giving them.

I am not trusting anybody with the same yard. I am telling you that people should not be given room to behave badly like their small children who do not have control over their actions.

e.g Oh look at Eddygourdo, I like those nice flashy shirts he wears and how those skinny jeans makes his ass look. Then my close muscular friend pushes you into an uncompleted. building and busts open your asshole.

Who's fault is it. You wey dey your own? or my friend who wore condom and busted your ass?

I told you, stop the gay and male asshole refrences. I find it disgusting and offensive. Won't respond to this post.

MarieSucre:
Earlier on you did same some children we here conplicit in it. Then I corrected that notion.

Anyways, the point of this example is in reply to when you said you try to notice the gay guys around you and keep away.

And i said how does the boy want to know his uncle is gay?

children could be complicit in a paedophilia of course, but the law does not recognise their complicity due to valid grounds, you didn't correct anything. The uncle and boy case are paedophilc and thus there is no room to consider the child's complicty. Its a violent crime which absolves all blame from the child and rightly so. This isn't a valid arguement. I am a grown ass man and made the gay refrences with that in mind

MarieSucre:
Sweetheart there is proof.
Example 1). It is true that no country is free from corruption on this earth. But China is definitely not as corrupt as Nigeria. They have the death penalty for corrupt charges.

Example 2) DURING the ordeal in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina, there was massive looting. People we're breaking into stores and carting away goods worth hundred of thousands. How come they do not do that anymore. Even though the city is rebuilt and activities have returned, shops are opening and closing at night.

Sure people still break it, but not with the same frequency as they would when the state was in chaos.

Why don't people say "well why don't you not leave store at night. once you leave we're gonna rob it"
There is law now! A law that says NO MATTER HOW JUICY THE FRUIT IS, IF ITS NOT YOURS DON'T EAT IT".

now answer this, God forbid another kat on new orleans. But if another happened tomorow. Would there be looting or not. This is by the same decent people you just described who aren't looting the place. Law or no law. A rape is an action is not a definition of an indidividual, same as murder. The rapist could have been a good upright citizen who pays his taxes and goes to church, yet on one summer evening, BAM! He rapes a woman. This means that the person u call normal today could be abnormal tomorow. This means that the propensity to obbserve evils like rape due to abnormal behaviour cannot be modeled by any law of conformity to rules. Therefore since people are adaptive in good and bad, why can't possible victims be adaptive to being easy preys when good turns bad

MarieSucre:
The example about Syria I gave is just perfect. So the victim also the Syrians, keep moving or modifying themselves so as not fall victim. But they're not the problem. The Fighters are the psychopaths. You could modify all you want. If it wasn't you It will be someone else. Because the person is rotten to the core.

I don't go about raping people. I Have seen enough drunk to know that I never stole their wallet or phone to take advantage of them.

But there are people who are sick in their head. And how to cure their sickness is not to tell the victims to rub paracetol all over their body.

that you don't do it, does that mean the next man won't ? That u have the good sense to not be evil , does that absolve the next man? Do you know his story ? His thinking and perception of good and bad is dependent on his life's story. Thus do we have the same stories ? I doubt that .

How do you protect urself in a world with people who have.a differnt perception of good and bad from urs. Would u rather fall victim to them and have us blame them ? And absolve u ? Maybe u never visited lagos. Cos if u had you would know not to trust others with the same yard stick u trust uirself

MarieSucre:
Ever heard of societal conditioning. As a woman trust me. I know. I grew up with it.

And no, I am not mixing issues I am giving you examples to help you better understand my position.

I notice you didn't address the issue of the uncle molesting the male child.

that is paedophilia, we always have a consensus on that. Its different from what we are saying, because the law doesn't hold a child complicity even if she or he gave consent to the act. Thus that arguement is moot to the subject matter

MarieSucre:
And I already made the point earlier that if the world didn't say NO, he world would have been much more worse. I made the point earlier. We might never be able to fully eradicate evil. But we damn well will not allow perpetrators think it's their birthright to be evil, or they can do it and get away with and then come back again and do it.

there is no proof to ur statement. That without the laws it would be worse. Go down history. It didn't have all the laws we had today and yet can't be said to be worse than the crimes we had. Between 1700 and 1800 and also 1800 and 1900 would u say more evils and violent deaths due to rape , wars etc more than 1900 to 2000 and beyond ? Yet we had a lot of the laws you are talking about in 1900 to 2000. The united nations treaties , nuclear treaties etc even we had a treaty after the world war and yet the cold war happened. My dear no matter waht you do eveil will always abound. Simple. Get that engrained

MarieSucre:
Looooolz. I'm sorry but what cave do you live in. No offence. Do you think all gays wear colourful skinny jeans, and tight body hug shirts and behave girly. Those are the flamboyant ones. Gays dress like any normal man.

Let me ask you a question, all those guys who were molested by their uncles when they we're younger, do you think their uncles acted "gay"?
How would they have acted to prevent it?

Let me tell what you don't know about victim blaming. Its the reason why a lot of men and women font come forward about their rape experience. Its make them feel ashamed. Meanwhile the perpetrator walks scot-free in the knowledge that they we're justified in their assault.

am certain I live in the same cave you live. So don't throw shades or we done here.

You keep mixing issues. You aren't facing a particular issue with correlative arguements . Victims feeling ashamed could be because they blame their complicity in what befell them. So if such is the case, are the so blameless?

MarieSucre:
Leave to where? To whom? Do you think the world is one big backyard where if it gets tough you just go to your neighbours house to sleep. Its clear you are not the realist you say you are.

So lets assume they are able to leave, through all the bombing and even the road mines and the air raids and the chasing soldiers on the way out.

And then those evil Iraqi and Syrian fighters see just like Badoo saw that there is nobody else to kill. No women to rape. No houses to loot. What is stopping them from going to next country. And then the citizens of that one leave too. And then the next country. And then the next country after that.

At what time does the world say "NO! you do not have monopoly over violence and rape and what you're doing is wrong, we will not continue to be victims and you have to be stopped for peace to reign"

Is it after they now like a child fat and pampered by doting and irresponsible parents, fat on victim-blaming finally come to your doorsteps.

don't be dramatic , the world already says NO. Yet evil abounds. So what next should be done to prevent future evils? There is no country that doesn't criminalize rape, yet it abounds. So what can be done in this case? Since me advicing victims to avoid the occurence of vulnerablity is victim blaming to you. And yes dear. I am an objective realist

MarieSucre:
I am happy it makes you feel uncomfortable . Just imagine how actual an rape victims feel. And then multiply it by 20x when they see you trying to make excuses here for rape.

as a man, who isn't comfortable with gay things. Do you know wat I do to prevent an occurence? I watch myself and ensure that men around me are normal. And I have never ever seen a gay nor had an encounter. Because I find them distateful and I model my lifestyle to ensure I am never in contact with them. I can't model what gays will do, who they will love, or waste time criticising their sexual choices. Its easier for me to model my own behaviour to ensure they never bother me.

I won't accept a general norm that hasn't worked. Villification of victims in all situations, this is the same as the female abuse thing. Very theoertical yet we are surprised its not working.