killayut:

In Ijaw a town is called AMA. It is pure Ijaw borrowed by Southern Igbos.

Just stop it,in my villeage in south east, AMA is an evry day word wthing the area i'm from e.g. obinna nola ama dee amayeriowu this means that obinna is in the compound of dee amayeriowu not only thus it mean compound it can also use for gathering of people or group of people from a particular villeage{Ama ala} and the greeting that gose with it is Ama ala nmama nuoo.

odumchi:

Any historical evidence?

During the dark ages, Europe was politically fragmented and (for some time), Southern Spain was under the control of the Abbasids.

It's not Abbasids it is Almoravid empire the black people of north africa whom where converted to islam.

ChinenyeN: You're incorrect. The Ngwa/Ohuhu legend is a story to emphasize common ancestry and explain the Ngwa/Ohuhu ethnonyms. It is not a story of migration, because the story never named a starting or ending point. It is not an "origin-to-destination" tale.

Yes you are right but there is one that should be put into cnsideration this particular one is refer to as myth(the creational story) it says that the where created by the suprim God Chileke then the people of Ngwa/Ohuhu came into existence inwhich can be seen in the way they name some of their city state that dont point to their ancestral origin eg Nttgha,Nsulu,Akumimo,Ehenre etc.This is becuse the belive that the place the are living is the same place that Chileke created their ancestors this is common idealogy of Ngwa and Ohuhu's wherever the are found weither in mbaisi/Umuahia.

Obiagu1: All these whining by few disgruntled people helps no one.
Ngwa origin points to Mbaise. If Mbaise people say they came from Zululand, automatically that's where Ngwa people came from as well except they are not from Mbaise.
Every other argument, to me, is irrelevant.
Just like me, if Nri people say they came from Abidjan, that's where I came from as well. To know my root, I'll simply research Nri history.

So Mbaise people, where are you from?

not mbaise becuse it came into existence during the colonia era, during pre-colonia era the groups where an independent city state so it is either the origin of Ngwa pionts to Ezilihitte or the present day area that include Owerri,Ngor opor-ala and Ezilihitte.

Odenigbo Aroli: I also want to inform some of us that inspite of the "warrant chief" system that the white man introduced that almost destroyed the structure that was already on the ground when they arrived the Igbos still maintained their ancient "Priest King"(Eze Ani) and the "council of elders"(Ndi Ichie); However,the Priest Kings has been relegated to the role of keeping only the traditional obligations including faring for the deities and this position is hereditary....We call these "Eze Ani" the "True King"......Most of the traditional festivals,rituals of the town is presided over by the Eze Ani....They are still very much revered but the Igwes(warrant chiefs) are more famous....Its important to know these as we move forward.....I still think we should revert to the old system and give the Eze Ani their rightful place and give them the same glamour that is accorded to these warrant chiefs and ABOLISH the warrant chief system,afterall the Ezeani was ancient and hereditary which makes it more original.

Umu Igbo ekeneem unu rinne!

In my area, i think the whole Eze's(warrant chiefs) are nothing but ceremonial head becuse it is not part of our tradition/culture the British force it on us inform of warrant chiefs it was after colonial rule we borrow some tradition from our neighbour's inwhich we change the name from warrant chief to Eze and the area i come from the custodian of our culture/tradition are the Amaala followed by Nnadi inwhich the Eze is also a member.

olawalebabs: In no particular order, these monarchs stands out in Nigeria
Sultan of Sokoto
Alaafin of Oyo
Ooni Of Ife
Emir of Kano
Oba of Benin
Emir of Zauzau
Obi of Onithsa
Oba of Lagos
Lamido Adamawa
Alake of Egba
etc

Which Alaafin of Oyo are you talking about is it the old oyo or the new one.

mbatuku2:

I meant an expanding factor. Like in the case of Ngwa people, from their original ancestral settlement in Aba, they started expanding to other places to reduce the competition caused by overpopulation.

I think what you mean by original ancestral settlement is okpu alangwa,Nvusi,Ntiagh,Abayi,Nsulu this where the ancestral settlement and also the first city state from here the expanded and establish other city state/villeage state that is now part of isi alangwa nourth/sourth lga,osisioma ngwa and ugwunabor/Aba south where the assimilate with another igbo group Asa people of ndorki that occupy present day ukwa west in abia state and obigbo in rivers state also Obi ngwa and Aba north lga where a migration from Okpu alangwa, Nvusi, Abayi, Ntiagh, Nsulu establish city states and villeage states inwhich the later merge together and establish diffrent confederetion /repulic kingdom .e.g. mborko the head qurters of obi ngwa is a confederetion between Ntiagh,Nsulu and Nvusi.

PAGAN 9JA:



First of all Mr. Odumchi, who are you to tell me to take a backseat   Are you my master I am a man who has always taken the front seat, just remember that. I have joined Nairaland to spread the truth and knowledge to all my brothers who have forgotten or were made to forget these two words. I am free to convey my message wherever i please and I shall. Im not a private hired tutor, that I have come here to teach some obscurity called ""Odumchi"". NO. you are not playing a monopoly here. I have come to convey my message to all my Igbo brothers who have an open mind and a thirst for knowledge and the truth because, they have every right to know the truth and the corruption and enslavement of their ancestors at the hands of the church. People like you are trying to divert their path with all your nonsense of their so-calle Hebrew lineage and your comparisions of the great Chukwu with a foreign element called Jesus

Now coming back to the topic.

What is the difference between Odinani and Omenala?

Omenala are customs and traditions, and Odinani is the[b] study of the sacred sciences of nature; both  inner (human nature) and outer (the world as we know it)[/b]. In essence, Omenala is what is done, and Odinani is part of the reason why its done.

How old is Odinani?

As old as humanity itself. (remember its a Pagan religion)


How many people study it?

More than you think. There are ALOT of people who study Odinani behind closed doors because of the negative stigma that is currently attached to it. But this is rapidly changing as more people are challenging the status quo.  \\



What about human sacrifice?

Human sacrifice has been practiced by many societies throughout the world, since the Pagans believe that if animals are sacrificed, then why not humans we believe in equality among all Gods children. Animal sacrifice was usually done in the form of capital punishment. Instead of executing criminals at the gallows, they were sacrificed in front of the shrine of the Gods, in order that their corrupted souls attained purification and abolution.



What is the name of God in Odinani?

The word that is used for God in Igbo is Chi. It is a reference to the individual spark of divinity that exists within everyone.  The collective spirit of everyone and everything is known as Chukwu. It is a contraction of two words: Chi (God) and Ukwu (great or large in size). Literally, Chi-Ukwu or Chukwu means the Great God or the Great Spirit. 


What are the practitioners of  Odinani known as?

Ndi Igbo (Igbo people) did NOT  refer to themselves as servants, followers, devotees or slaves of any spirit or deity. Instead, they considered themselves to be Umu (children) of the Mmuo (Spirits).  Since the Universal Spirit was known as Chukwu, the most appropriate name for practitioners of Odinani would be Umuchukwu (Children of the Great God). A singular form of this would be Nwachukwu (Child of  the Great God).


Is there a Heaven or Hell in the Igbo afterlife? What happens after one dies?

The first law of thermodynamics states that energy cannot be created or destroyed,  it just changes forms. Likewise, there is no such thing as an “afterlife” in Igbo cosmology, as the spirit world is seen as the unseen part of the physical world. When you “die”, you just transition the same way that liquid water  makes its transition to water vapor when its heated at a high enough temperature.  If one chooses to, you can return to the earth plane, the same way that water vapor condenses to rain. Furthermore, Heaven and Hell are seen as states of mind that are experienced while you are “alive”,  rather than after you “die”.

First of all, both believe that one is always being watched by the spirit of his ancestors. The living show appreciation to the deceased and pray to them for future well being. Before each meal, one takes a bit of his food and tosses it to the ground, calling out the names of his ancestors and every eight days (the "Fene Bene", the chief of the tribe sets out food and drink for the spirits. Every seven years a goat is sacrificed and the blood is sprinkled in front of images or clay pillars which represent the ancestors ("Nduen Fobara". One can also pray to the spirits at special shrines to ask for help in emergencies (if, for example, a loved one dies with no apparent cause or if a man has continual bad luck). It is also against tribal law to speak badly of a spirit. If a man does so and refuses to apologize, the family of the dead retaliates by speaking against the dead of the man's family. If the man does apologize, they all must perform a special ceremony of atonement.

The Ibo belive that every man has two souls -- the eternal ego (the Ijaw "Teme" or the Ibo "Maw" and the life force that dies with the body (the Ijaw "Bio-Maw" or the Ibo "Nkpuruk-Obi". Both souls leave the body on the last exhaling, but the life force can leave temporarily at times before that (in great fear of accident). If this soul does not return, however, the body perishes as well. The eternal soul leaves the body on the last breath and takes the form of a ghost, shadow, or reflection. For this reason the living consider it dangerous to step on a shadow, and they often use mirrors in religious ceremonies in order that the evil spirits will strike the mirror "image of the soul" and not the actual soul of a living man.

As in the tribes of the living, there is a hierarchy in the ghost realm, too. There is a Ghost King (the Ijaw "Nduen-Ama Yana-Gbaw" or the Ibo "Eze Ala Maw"; and a ghost messenger (the Ijaw "Ffe" or the Ibo "Onwu" who appears as a skeleton who brings death upon a person by striking him at the base of the skull with a large staff; a ferryman ("Asasaba" who brings good souls across the river of death to be reincarnated into trees, animals or other living things.

Although different ethnic groups believe in different forms of reincarnation for good and bad souls, all believe in karma (the rewards or punishments in present life for doings in a past life). For example, a good Oratta Ibo will take the shape of a cow, elephant, or leopard; a good Bakama soul will be reborn into a tree, whereas the Amuneke believe that only evil souls are doomed to become plants.

Ancestors who have done good deeds in their lifetime and died in a proper manner, were elevated to become one with the spirits and did not undergo rebirth again. They lived in the world that mirrors the living world. These ancestors are the oes that are worshipped and offered sacrifices.


you are a foolish man, Odumchi. The Igbos never believed in hell, nor was their hell an evil forest. amongst all the tribes in present-day Nigeria. The Igbo were the most forest-dwelling tribes. Apart from a few sparse settlements on the fringes, the forest was their true home. The got their food, shelter, etc from the the forest. The spirits of the forest were revered and helped them. the forest provided defence against enemy tribes. why in the name of the Gods, would they then call it as hell   Do you call your home as ""Hell"", Odumchi  

Also, how can a person be reincarnated as well as go to heaven or hell you are contradicting yourself Odumchi. how are these behaviour and traits passed down. please talk sense.

Did the Igbo people come from Israel or Egypt?

Igbos DID NOT come from Israel or Egypt. The only people that say that they come from Israel are Christians (including the Christians who masquerade as Igbo Jews). I have not met ONE practitioner of Odinani etc who ever made such a claim. In regards to the second question, Igboland has been occupied since pre-dynastic times, so NO.


Religious Practitioners: There are two different kinds of priests: the hereditary lineage priests and priests who are chosen by particular deities for their service. Diviners and priests—those empowered with ofo, the symbol of authority, truth, and justice—interpret the wishes of the spirits, who bless and favor devotees as well as punish social offenders and those who unwittingly infringe their privileges, and placate the spirits with ceremonial sacrifices.

The Igbo concept of personhood and the dialectic between individual choice/freedom and destiny or fate is embodied in the notion of chi, variously interpreted as spirit double, guardian angel, personal deity, personality soul, or divine nature. Igbo have varied accounts of myths of origin because there are many gods and goddesses. According to one Igbo worldview, Chukwu created the visible universe, uwa. The universe is divided into two levels: the natural level, uwa, or human world, and the spiritual level of spirits, which include Anyanwu, the sun; Igwe, the sky; Andala (or Ana), the earth; women's water spirits/goddesses, and forest spirits. The Igbo forge a mediatory category of relations with nature and certain animals such as pythons, crocodiles, tigers, tortoises, and fish.


Chukwu or Chinewe has been existant in Igboland since time immortal. The only reason why it was not worshipped much by other tribes is because, each tribe, inspite of generally praying to ALL deities, had a personalised family/tribal God to which they were devoted. the tribe that had Chukwu as its main deity were the Akpa people or Ibom Isi who comprised one of the three lineages of the Aro people who are an IGBO subtribe.

Arochukwu is believed to have been the homeland of the Ibibio as they arrived in 300 AD from the Benue valley and founded early states like Obong Okon Ita and Ibom. Many years passed as Igbo immigrants came along and pressed into the Ibibio occupied territory and founded several states. The first Igbo group were the Ezeagwu group led by their leader Agwu Inobia. As Aro-Ibibio wars occurred, there was a stalemate. In reaction, the Eze Agwu clan invited a priest named Nnachi from the Edda clan of northeastern Igboland and another group from the east of the Cross River through Nnachi. These people were identified as the Akpa people. Akpa forces led by Osim and Akuma Nnubi, they helped the Igbo forces capture the rest of the area. This formed the alliance of 19 new and old states in the area known as the Arochukwu kingdom around 1650-1700. The first king (or Eze Aro) of a unified Arochukwu was Akuma but after his death, Nnachi son's Oke Nnachi took over and his descendants have the throne to this day.

So therefore, Chukwu was already existant, but he was brought from North-Eastern Igboland into the the Arochukwu area as a main deity. Aro mean spear and Chukwu is the Supreme God. Thefore Arochukwu = Spear of the Supreme God. Arochukwu was named after the Aro people and their God, NOT the other way round.

The Ibini Ukpabi Shrine is were the God Chuwu was installed. Today it is one of the main Igbo Pagan shrines and oracle in all Igboland. The Oracle at Ibini Ukpabi was used to settle cases, particularly does of murder, witchcraft, poisoning and family disputes. The losing party of a case was traditionally destroyed by the oracle. The British used to call it Long Juju, inorder to make that place sound evil, but it was just like a religious court of justice.


What is a Leopard Person?

A leopard person goes by many names around the world. The term “Leopard person” is a West African coinage, derived from the Efik term “ekpe”, “leopard.” All people of mystical true ability are Leopard people. And as humankind has evolved, so have Leopard folk around the world organized. One of the real life “Leopard people” are the Ekpe society of southeastern Nigeria. This society, which was started by the Ekik people, spread through to the rest of the Ibibio, Oron, Igbo and Ekoi peoples.

Ekpe Society members during a procession in Arochukwu:




The Ekpe Society was introduced to Igboland by the people of Arochukwu. In fact, their lodge is in the village of Atani. In Igboland, the Ekpe Society usually went by the name Okonko.


Ekpe Lodge in Atani Village, Arochukwu:

[img]http://people.wku.edu/johnston.njoku/arochukwu/landmarks/05.jpg[/img]

They were the premiere secret society in Southeastern Igboland, and the highest grades held alot of the secrets of the mystical arts, including the magical Nsibidi script.

Initiation, which simply means “beginning”, plays a huge role in Igbo culture, as well as with other cultures all over Africa. Traditionally, both men and women would receive multiple initiations at different points in their life. “Imagine that you are a computer that came with programs and applications already installed. In order to use them, they have to be activated; you have to , in a sense, wake it up. That’s what initiation is.”

Young boy undergoing his dibia initiation:

[img]http://anthro.siuc.edu/mccall/ohafia/igboscans/kids/initiate.jpg[/img]



What are the Masquerades?

“Up to now you’ve known masquerades to be mere symbolic manifestations of the ancestors or spirits. Men and boys dress up in elaborate cloth and raffia costumes and dance, jeer, or joke depending on who they are manifesting. Up to now, you’ve believed masquerades to be nothing more than myth, folklore and tradition. Now that you are a Leopard person, know that your world has just become more real. Creatures are real. Ghosts, witches, demons, shape-shifters, and masquerades, all real. Masquerades are always dangerous. They can kill, steal your soul, take your mind, take your past, rewrite your future, bring the end of the world, even. As a free agent you will have nothing to do with the real thing, otherwise you face certain death. If you are smart you leave true masquerades up to those who know what to do with juju".


Masquerades in Igboland are known as mmanwu. Here are some pictures of some of them. Some of them are people in costumes, but the older pictures might be real ones:

Agbogho Mmuo (Maiden Spirits):

[img]http://odinanilawsofnature.files./2011/03/mmanwu.jpg?w=400&h=269[/img]


Masquerade at Igbo Farm Village:




Ijele Masquerade:

The Ijele masquerade originated in Anambra state is known as the “King of all masquerades.” In ancient times, it had 45 masquerades perform on top of it, which are now represented by 45 figures. It was also used to scare away some of the early missionaries in Igboland. 


Honoring Your Ancestors:

The Ndiichie (esteemed ancestor spirits) also held a high place in traditional Igbo society. Elders have always been revered in Igbo society, and even more so after they passed onto Be Mmuo (the land of the spirits). The Ndiichie would often be consulted to offer advice to their descendants and appeal to the Alusi on their behalf. Ndi Igbo have never worshiped their ancestors only venerated them, which is no different then what Catholics do to their saints or what every country does to its national heroes. Respect and honor for the Ndiichie was shown in one way by pouring of libations while chanting incantations. Ndi Igbo believed in the concept of reincarnation and felt that the Ndiichie often reincarnated back on Earth. In fact, all Mmadu (human beings) were believed to reincarnate seven or eight times, and that depending on your karma, one either ascends or descends into another spiritual plane.

Obu Figures:

[img]http://mccoy.lib.siu.edu/jmccall/jones/igbo/abiriba29.JPG[/img]

Ancestral veneration is a very ancient and common practice all over the world. The Igbo people have understood the importance of honoring the Ndichie (Venerated ancestors)  in order for the civilization to survive and progress from times immemorial. One of the reasons Igbos and Africans in general are in a state of damnation is because they have forgotten how to honor their ancestors. Yet the Igbo can learn if he wishes to seek.

Figure in an ancestral shrine:

[img]http://mccoy.lib.siu.edu/jmccall/jones/igbo/ika17.JPG[/img]

Instead of developing your own culture as a people, the Igbo see Western culture as superior to their own and trap themselves in an inferiority complex. Yes despite hardcore resistance against the Atlantic slave trade, British colonialism, and the Nigerian genocide against their people, you ended up losing. Yes the Igbo Civilizations collapsed. Yes Nigeria continues to discriminate and oppress Igbo people. You have suffered a lot and nobody shall ever down play that. However, until you remember to honor your ancestors, you will continue on the path of self destruction your enemies have planted for you.

Uxurhe Ancestral Staffs:

[img]http://mccoy.lib.siu.edu/jmccall/jones/igbo/ika18.JPG[/img]


The Igbo people are one of the most ancient groups in the world. Like most African groups and civilizations in ancient times had advanced human consciousness, culture, knowledge, creativity, leadership, philosophy, science, and etc. True civilizations respect, honor, and live in accordance to Nature. They once understood the oneness of the Source/Creator (Chineke) with Creation and thei relationship with Nature (Ani). Nowadays who cares when an Igbo man sees an injured dog on the road in a crowded market., will he stoop down to help it or will he just kick it aside because society is watching him it is up to you, to choose your path.

Ani in Mbari House:



You honored and respected Ani. That is why you had rich societies and collective democratic leadership that lived by justice, order, peace, unity, and balance. Your ancestors built many ancient civilizations such as the Ugwelle (6000 BCE), Afikpo (3000 BCE), Nsukka (3000 BCE), UmuEri/UmuNri dynasties (500 BCE), Igbo Ukwu (900 CE), and etc. You developed sophisticated architecture such as the Nsude pyramids in Agbaja, Mbari structures, and etc. Igbos developed writing scripts such as Uli, Aniocha writing systems, Nsidibi, Ikwu, and many more. The level of knowledge and scientific (especially metaphysics) discoveries and practices done by the Igbo Civilizations is most likely beyond our imagination. You have a long history of achievements. Now, you are no one. You are just an obscurity like Odumchi, taking part in petty squabbles and living your day like you hardly care for life.


Illustration of fully dressed corpse seated on stool wearing copper crown with elephant tusks on ground in Igbo-Ukwu burial chamber:



In order for the Igbo people to really rebuild and progress, you MUST honor your ancestors. You shall not live exactly how your ancestors lived but revive the institutions they built that are applicable today and improve on it. How can you know what today and tomorrow will be if you don’t know how yesterday was? How can you know who you are if you don’t know who brought you here? The ancestors brought us here and as a mixture of all of them into one, you must know who they were to know who you are. You may say you are children of the ultimate source of all creation and life (Chineke). But through who are you children of Chineke? Who did Chineke give power to bring you into this world and gave life? The answer is your ancestors. Therefore, we must honor and respect them. To honor the ancestors is to honor yourselves and the ultimate ancestor/source of us all Chineke.  Chi (God)

Learn from the past, live the present and work for the future.

The Gods Bless

pegan is like you know some of histories of igbo people but i'm intrested in the writing system .e.g. uli and ikwu that of nsibidi i know about it can write more on those two.

Chintuwa uka[Ngwa]:when God is speking no one can interrupt him.
Chinturu uka [Ngwa]: God say's
Obiageriaku[Nwa]: Born to enjoy wealth
Ahudiya[NGWA] FEMAIL NAME:her husband body
Ikudiya[Ngwa] femail :her husband friend
Obulezi[Ngwa]:Asking qustion wether something is true
Nwehzu o[Ngwa]: Child is complite
Oyooyo,in short form will be oyo[Ngwa] and also Ubani:Both has to do with somthing that is good/beautiful
Ngwakwe[Ngwa]:this has to do with agreement
Emetuka[Ngwa] in full Emetuka achowa oye ikpe
Wen ibara [Ngwa]: A jovial person
Hukwunmere[Ngwa]:Something great happend
Dinmkpa[Ngwa]:A great or strong person
Ehilebuw[Ngwa] in full Ehilebuw oye akaya ndi ocha ma nukwalaya

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NRI PRIEST: You had knowledge of the Nri week days but you dont know where it originated from nor how it was formed !! Nri influence was very wide in Igboland and some people dont know how some traditions which they have adopted developed! I am not here to force anything on anybody but we must give respect to whom it belongs to. ChinenyeN,the Igbo week days that Ngwa use today where do they originated from ? [You adopted something significant as days of the week from somebody yet you said they dont have influence on you !] You name your children partly with the names of the days of the week which originated from Nri yet you said NO influnce! I think you should bear in mind that the "mburuchis" did not travel every part of Igbo land; A lot of time they will travel so far to set-up shrines and ordain new priests who will in turn carry the rituals missionary along. My point is that Nri mburuchis may not be the one that set-up your markets in Ngwa but somehow they learnt the practice from their neighbors who followed Nri traditions. I know you will never accept because of what it will do to your little ego.

NRI PRIEST imagin someone who have never step out of his villeage inwhich everything about him and his education was done withing his villeage and he like's the name Alejandro or the method inwhich the name sound and he name his son Alejandro does not mean that his villeage is under or was under the influence of the people of Latin the anwser is [NO] The same goes with ngwa/nri influence.

ChinenyeN: Snake [something something] to give birth to something long.
My Guess: Snake cannot help but give birth to something that will also be long.


Red Hat wearing in Ngwa is post-colonial, and less than 1% of Ngwa men actually wear it.

How many times are we going to tell Nri people that their influnce did not reach ngwa land.

odumchi: @ Ify

Nri was the first Igbo group to adopt the four day calendar. Nri mythology has it that when the founder of Nri went on a journey to discover the mystery of time, he was greeted by four spirits named "Eke, Orie, Afor, and Nkwo" and upon returning to Nri, he used their to form a calendar.

This calendar system, along with many other Nri-made ideas (such as the ozo/nze title), spread to other parts of Igboland during Nri's golden age along with Nri priests and pioneers. It's also noteworthy to say that the further you go south from the Nri-Awka region the less you see these characteristics of "Nri presence".

Well, the general idea is that any community that uses Eke, Orie, Afor, and Nkwo as market days was in some way or anther influenced by Nri. With this in mind, there are some places that don't use this calendar or ozo/nze for that matter.

Odumchi it looks like you dont know about another vasion of this four market days story,among the people of aro chukwu,arondizuogu probable the poeple also aro ngwa etc, the belive that the four market days originated through what the call IKE IJ which the celebrite during the time for new yam festival.

NRI PRIEST:

Nri influence on Ngwa might be small but that isnt to say Ngwa wasnt influenced by Nri.

the small influence you are talking about is that of colonia era

ChinenyeN:

I'm not sure I'm understanding the point that you're trying to make.

Chinenye it was the ngwa/asa you mention that got me confuse not knowing wither you where talking about the asa's in ngwa eg ugwunabo and osisioma ngwa or the asa in ndoki and that of "umu aro ubani" has to do with the way i understand what he was saying inwhich it looks as if he was talking about all the people of bonny and opobo i have to let him know that the name ubani is indigenous among ngwa people i'm one of those that have ubani as their surname other names that have ubani attach to it eg Ubani ukoma , ubani wokoma or wukoma and nwubani or wubani this last one is what i dont understand why ngwa poeple in those days whold give their children name as nwubani.

ChinenyeN:

What is known as "Ndoki language/dialect" is the result of Ijo mixing with Ngwa/Asa, then the people interacting with Annang, then Aro traders who were invited into the community and lastly, Isu and other hinterland groups who came to what is now Obigbo and other surrounding Ndoki communities, for work.

Ubani and Ndoki both had some hinterland (Isu and other) influence. In the case of Ubani, it was due to the slave trade. In the case of Ndoki, it was due to 20th century influx of hinterland people, looking for work. The deep/historical interaction between the two communities makes their speech very similar, if not exactly the same.

Notwithstanding, there are Ndoki communities that still speak something much like Ngwa and Asa, but the more "Ndoki"-type speech is spoken particularly by Azumini, Abaki, Akirika, and a few other surrounding communities.

Chinenye what do you mean by ngwa/asa, you shold know that withing ugwunabo and osisiomangwa their are many community/villeage that bears asa as their name.

odumchi:

This is interesting. As I was reading the Ndoki words, I found them very similar to those found in my own dialect. It doesn't strike me as a surprise since Bonny and Opobo were founded partly by Aro settlers. We call Igbos from Bonny and Opobo "umu Aro Ubani".

Odumchi you shold know that the name ubani is not only an indigenous in bonny and opobo but it is allso an indigenous name among ngwa and ndoki people thus that make them part of your "umu Aro Ubani" or you just want to turn history upside down.

It is a well know fact that the jews originated from ala igbo full stop