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Sheggy13:
That's the irony of those jokers. Because of few Igbo names here and there among the Lagos participants, they've come here to beat their chest that they were the ones that helped Lagos. Same nonsense they're saying that they developed Lagos yet cannot develop their own ancestral states (home) but keep trooping to same Lagos like refugees.

I saw some Igbo girls win multi medals for Lagos but I wonder why the exclusively Igbo participants for the Igbo states didn't win medals for their state if it's an Igbo thing

When it comes to Nigerian sports, leave it for Delta and Edo. Every year same thing

Abagworo:
Ika is Igbo which is why there's difference between Edogun and Odogu . That's also why there's difference between Obasi and Abasi even though Umuahia and Itu use it for God. Umuahia is Igbo while Itu is Ibibio..

Goodnight. You're always out of point and make absolutely no sense in your comment. You lack comprehension and your responses are always off topic on this thread. I'll never reply you again

Abagworo:
Edogun is not Odogwu. Edogun is Edo and Odogwu is Igbo. Very soon you will say Ego is Igho or Obasi is Abasi.

How do I know that Edogun is the same as Odogwu? I'm am Ika man. The Binis have the Edogun title for the the war chief and we call it Odogun. Is that a coincidences? Of course no. The praise name of Edogun is Abigege or Abi and also Ebi and the praise name of the Odogun of my clan is Ebi and play exactly the same role, exactly the same salutation and exactly the same hair cut.


Do you want to tell me that Odogun is different from Odogwu because of the difference in spelling? Ika is known to be a nasal language and we reflect the inflection in our spelling following the Edo pattern.

Maduawuchukwu:
Burna Boy is Ijaw.

Maybe because the mother is Edo

BrodaBenad:
Una too lie Tue!


Archeology and everything tells otherwise!


Have stuff longer than most of your ancestors


The nsude pyramids outdates most of your kingdom


The Igbo ụkwụ bronze work are the first if it's kind In west Africa

Igbos are the first people to do bronze works in Nigeria



Igbos read and write in nsibidi hieroglyphs




I hate when people lie


It's common to share same words with your neighbours claiming ownership of certain word is an insult to any rational mind

Ever heard of "Language convergence " ?

It's a phenomenon that leads to the problem of not knowing the origin of a word because the speaker wants to sound like thier Neighbour

And it's easy to do that because both Igbos , Yorubas and edo Infact all southern Nigeria belongs to the Niger-Congo A group of languages
We have same linguistic origin so it's comon to see convergence of certain words

So coming out to say people loan a word from you is an insult to rational and educated mind

There are certain shared words that are almost impossible to tell it's origin maybe as a result of it being a word from a common ancestor - a proto-word. And as you rightly mentioned, language diffusion and convergence is a thing.

But in some cases, telling the origin of a language is a bit easier if the that word hold some very significant power in one language than the other. For example, Ewere and Odogun are two words that the Edos and Igbos share in common that as an Ika man I'm certain they're of Edo origin. Till tomorrow we celebrate the IbiEwere during our igue celebration and also check the Edo dictionary below

BrodaBenad:
I agree about the ehi

Chukwu is a derivative of chi-ukwu

It's a derivative of chi ukwu but the concept of chi didn't filter into Ika lingo like chukwu did. When an Ika man say chukwu, he's not doing that in comparison to any other God it's just a term for God generally. God is a general term but the chi/ehi is more connected to the belief-system hence the difficulty in infiltrating

Abagworo:
There's "Chi" in Ika and Chikwe is a common Ika surname. Ika bu Igbo. Orisakeruwa, Olisakeluwa, Olisebuluwa or Osebuluwa was the old Igbo name for God in corest Igbo areas between Imo and Anambra. Chukwu was introduced by the Aros across Igboland more recently and wasn't of use anywhere in Igboland than Arochukwu until then. Chi and Orisa are different.

You're a definition of ignoramus or misinformation or both. No where in my comment did I mention Ika being or not being Igbo. Why are you running amok spewing nonsense? I'm only here to educate those that are ready to learn and not engage in banters with deluded folks

BrodaBenad:
You don't have chi?

You've confirmed you're not ika

There is no chi in Ika. We use Oselobue and also chukwu for God although Oselobue is the creator in Ika cosmology, chukwu is quite popular in present day but in terms of personal god/guardian it's exclusively ehi. I'll try to educate you because you're not Ika

Abagworo:
That is reality. Edos borrowed that word from the name of the Igbo warrior. As for this topic the most popular African word in 2023 is "Nyash" not "Odogwu".

Your name is Ehikwe which is attempt to twist Chikwe knowing fully well that Ehi is Edo version of Chi but the Edo has "kue" not "kwe". Osakue is Edo while Osakwe is Igbo.

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Owa oral tradition has it that Odogu angrily left Ute-Okpu and settled near the present site of Oyibu village because his brother, Okpu, inherited everything after his father’s death, while Odogu was away serving the Oba of Benin in wars.
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The bolded is either a joke or you're such an ignoramus on this matter.

As for the Ehikwe, we don't have chi in Ika land. You must be deluded to think it's deliberate attempt to twist it

Abagworo:
That is reality. Edos borrowed that word from the name of the Igbo warrior. As for this topic the most popular African word in 2023 is "Nyash" not "Odogwu".

There's no Igbo warrior called edogun. The title is a hereditary title that's reserved for certain royal families. Odogun is a very high ranking chief only below the likes of Iyase. His praise name is abigege or Abi, in my community we salute him as Ebi

Abagworo:
Odogwu is not Edo but Igbo. During the olden days an Igbo man whose name was Odogwu was employed by Oba of Benin as a mercenary fighter so it is possible he was deitified as honor for his war successes. His descendants founded some Igbo communities in present day Delta State.

This is fiction

Adelaide2:
The Igbo igbonized Edo word? So can I say the Edo edonized the Igbo word? You are obviously deluded.

Edogun is a word that's rooted in Edo culture and tradition for thousands of years even from the Ogiso era. This word was corrupted by the Ikas and the Aniochas to Odogun and transmitted to the Igbos through Onicha. Another word that got to the Igbos through the Ikas and Aniochas through Onitcha is Ewere which the Igbos call Awele. Before you argue, try and research this.

I'm an Ika man and I understand where most of our words and cultures came from

Yujin:
If it is a shared word, why are you now faulting him?
Odogwu is Igbo and Odogwu is the popular word today. Edogun is a variant of Odogwu and it is common among the Edo people.
The same way Igbos called the Cockerel 'Okuko' and the Binis call it 'Okuko' too.
There are actually more shared words so you should not be in haste to claim what you don't know.

Edogun is a word that's rooted in Edo culture and tradition for thousands of years even from the Ogiso era. This word was corrupted by the Ikas and the Aniochas to Odogun and transmitted to the Igbos through Onicha. Another word that got to the Igbos through the Ikas and Aniochas through Onitcha is Ewere which the Igbos call Awele. Before you argue, try and research this.

I'm an Ika man and I understand where most of our words and cultures came from

Zupay:
Odogwu remains an igbo word while Odogun remains an Edo word.

Oba to the Yorubas and Binis means King but to Igbos, Oba means barn.

are you dumb? Your example makes absolutely no sense in this context. We're not talking about homophones or homonyms here, we're talking about words that's shared by different ethnic groups. Do you know a word called "Etymology"? The level of dumbness on this thread is astonishing

Adelaide2:
Please stop creating confusion. Odogun is different from Odogwu. The word trending today is Odogwu (Igbo), not Odogun.

You seem slow. Odogun is the Edo spelling of the same word that the Igbo Igbonized and popularized. The problem with you guys is that you don't like to learn

Adelaide2:
Odogwu is an Igbo word. Odogun is different from Odogwu. The W and N make the difference

No, they're not different. Odogun is a chief in charge of warfare in ancient Edo empire. The title still exist in several kingdoms that made up the ancient Edo empire and as you might already known - some of these kingdoms have relationship with the Igbos of the South East.

Adelaide2:
The most popular African word in the world today happens to be an Igbo word: Odogwu. Do you know what that word means?

I hear it among Kenyans, South Africans, Ghanaians, Cameroonians, and all across Africa, the US, Canada, and Europe.

Odogwu is from the Edo word - Edogun/Odogun.

Odogun is one of the most powerful olotu in my community in Delta.

Igbos popularized it no doubt

You are deluded or you want to be a pulpit bandit - either way, you need help

Creativity22:
No, it was yaradua. A fulani man

How can it be yaradua when he only ruled for a year and half? Or you don't know a lot of government start well but show their true colors before the end of first term? E.g Oshiomole of Edo state and Rochas of Imo. Their first few years in office was heaven on earth for their people

Validated:
US is not Nigeria. Once a court give order, it is obeyed totally because any attempt to do otherwise is a recipe for jail term. I am not sure that Tinubu is as influential as Donald Trump and Biden family, whose cases the US courts are treating their duck ups.

It's not as straightforward as you think. The US is the home of magic. If it's in the interest of the US for Tinubu to stay in power, they will manufacture new records and release to the public.

You just spoke like an ignorant bushman. There's no absolute unity anywhere. Africans fight and discriminate among themselves so do Europeans and other whites. I live in Europe and I know the hierarchy of the Europeans. The supremacy complex is very serious there among different European countries m. For example, people from certain western European countries look down on people from certain European countries and discriminate against them.

Can this simple discrimination be compared with any form of racism? There is absolutely non basis for comparison.

His only legacy is founding a bloodsucking movement that has destroyed the lives of thousands of our youth. This man is a curse to Nigeria

If they didn't receive it as palliatives, can you kindly tell us under what guise they received it as? Constituency bla bla bla? Or some bogus terms?

Throwback:
So David Hundeyin established his own standard to determine the existence of a human being?

He did not tell us about a non-existing academic record, or employment record, or medical record, or tax record, or residential record?

His own standard is that the Internet record is only about his admission of being Tinubu's classmate, and based on this Internet record it means he does not exist?

And you say this person is a trained journalist?

It's very unlikely that he's wrong this time. He's been proven right 100% of the times he makes revelations about Tinubu

ElSudani:
You don't understand what he is saying at all.

Wtf is he saying? That when the citizens are poor, nobody can afford to import after all?

Devalue the naira, impoverish the populace and push them to start manufacturing? Is that how it actually works?

DeLaRue:
Importation will reduce by fire by force.

The current high inflation has reduced people's ability to purchase goods, particularly imported ones.

Demand for non-essential imports must already be falling drastically, and with crude oil price increasing, Nigeria's balance of payment will rebalance in favour of higher export earnings.

Making imports expensive by devaluing the naira, which is what the government has done is one of the most effective tools for achieving increased local production even though there are unfortunate downsides to that policy.

I think we finally have a clever government.

Go to any supermarket, you will see up to 10 different types of imported breakfast cereals, olive oil, this oil and that oil. Even imported can coke, and many more non-essential imports.

We can produce all the corn we need to make different breakfast cereals, but we don't. We have palm oil, groundnut oil etc, and there is nothing wrong with locally produced coke.

These are just few examples of non-essential imports that is killing the naira.

In the future, when we are producing more and the economy is in a better condition, may be these things can be imported.

For now, we can go back to eating yam, beans etc for breakfast. People did this in the past, it didn't kill them.

wonders shall never end. You want to use poverty to fight against importation?

tollyboy5:
Orisirisi, Nigerians are very funny set of people. Emeka, Ebuka and kingsley are into importation business and they import all manners of rubbish from abroad.
Tayo, Taiwo are also importing all kind of jargons from Europe. Now the government import petrol and many of you are complaining. The government is just a mirror of her people.

Give ten Nigerians loan today if they wont build hotels, club etc everywhere. I honestly asked one person who criticize obi when he was a governor on this forum why he/she was now rooting for obi now. The person did not reply my mention. Obi business model and performance as Anambra does not make him the best candidate over others to me.

You cant give what you don't have, how can a importer model the Nigeria economy when he failed to do that in his state?
My friend do say my soft spot for tinubu is because i'm a lagosian, i dont just have time for his capping yet. I know his soft spot for obi is because he likes igbo and edo people are big fan of obi.
Normally the igbos are being cheated in Nigeria but obi will fail if he was the president in nigeria kind of government settings where cabals has a bigger say in government. The person most fit for this job is the boastful mr tinubu. Lets see if he can really prove himself.

Obi fans feel they apply common sense but what they apply is emotional sense of entitlement. My friends tag me as tinubu supporter but some of my APC family tag me obidient but this obidient dont know we cant hate on our family because they're APC or tolerate insult because of a political party lol. On the day of election everyone in our house went to vote obi, my mum forced our igbo tenant to come out to vote obi. I had my reservations but my uncle said "Obi ni o!" . Now elections are over everyone has moved on but obi fans are still insulting us.

Obi is just like the rest nothing special to offer, at this stage of my understanding i can tell when someone is just gathering enough fans to when someone will actually perform. Obi will perform well in a government where there are lesser opposing forces but for this type of government, tinubu or atiku are ones that can make big moves and dare alot of opposing forces in government.

And those rooting for military rule and yet complaining about wike arrogant nature are confused and might also be obidient also.

APC is a devilish party. After Buhari spent years victim blaming, Tinubu is taking it to another new height.

Why is Tinubu and his minions bent on transferring all government failures on Nigerians?

Acekidc4:
Fashola is still the Best Governor Nigeria has ever Produced. All thanks to the Jagaban himself who pave the way for him to emerge!!

It's no Longer Tinubu?

TemplarLandry:
The Losers' Party people are masters at rigging.

Where did you see rig? If anything, APC disrupted elections because they knew they were losing in all national assembly and president elections taking place in Lagos state.

Even with all the disruptions, they still lost with a high margin. Even with the rerun, LP is still in the lead even if they did not get any vote on the rerun day

These tribunal judgements is APC eating their cake and having it back. When it favours them, they cite the rule, when it's against them, then the rule no longer apply. Or do we have different electoral acts in Nigeria?

helinues:
Abi, so both Apc and Pdp agents deliberately scammed their party?

No politician in Nigerian history has ever had the type of organic cult following that PO had. It's very possible that those party agents scammed their parties otherwise they would have complained about how their vote not counting

Come to think of it, how is parties scoring 0 at a party polling unit an evidence of rigging? If not that some South South states rigged in certain polling units, PDP and APC would have scored only a few thousands in each of the south South states - let alone the South East were rigging against PO is almost impossible because of the cult following around him