₦airaland Forum

He used someone's diploma to apply for the degree program.

plaindealer:
Do you mean NL is now CSU and the US court of law where the deposition took place and facts stated?

Stop smoking igbo..

As complicit as CSU have been in this case, they didn't go to the extent that nairaland is pushing it. First, they did not authenticate the certificate neither did they admit that the same Tinubu that graduated is the one that's presently occupying the presidency. We all saw the disposition. Yall should stop these lies on nairaland.

Nairaland is doing the dirty job for Tinubu - very obvious. We all saw the disposition and it's completely different from what they're pushing to the frontpage

Larryndelaw:
You are just talking nonsense. You are not the only one that have lives Europe. I have live in 3 European countries and America . So stop spreading lies. Tinubu will go and bribed the Judge and the school. My problem with you people is rhat you keep on shifting the goal post. Whenever you are caught. Now Atiku and all of you have received what you wanted , now you are saying he bribed then.Do you know what it means to swear under oath in America and the implications?

Stop being such a joke. Nobody said he bribed the judges. The judges did their work with the evidences on ground but the school have being complicit from the beginning - that's very obvious.

People swear under oaths everyday in America - like every other day. America is one of the most corrupt country in the world that's a fact

They 100% know that he used false information and stolen identity to gain admission into their school. False name, false age, false High schools credentials and false diploma. They know this very well for them to cover it up shows how complicit they are

3ple9iner:
What has he investigated that has indicted anybody? The certificate issue, with all his noise nothing and most if what he does is what any right thinking Nigerian who is ready to search for knowledge should do on issues but no we don't, this is the reason why after his investigations his conclusion is always tailored to what people want to hear.

Do investigative journalist indict people? And what do you mean by conclusion?

iammo:


Fashola was interviewed by Morayo of TVC

Moraryo asked Fashola who was close to Tinubu as his Chief of Staff from about scandals surrounding Tinubu.

And Fashola said , Tinubu himself enjoys the media attention,

He recounted an ocassion that fake news was published about him, and Dele Alake came to his office on how to debunk the news.. but Tinubu insisted nothing must be done, and they should let the people talk



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Yet he said social media was giving him HBP?

Larryndelaw:
Soyou mean BAT bribed CSU?. You think America is Nigeria?

He didn't just bribe them - they've been complicit from the beginning. America is not Nigeria? Stop playing. People take and give bribe everywhere. I've lived in several EU countries and I can tell you the European countries are by far less corrupt than america, yet people give and take bribe here.

They've been complicit from the beginning. Is there anything money cannot do? What money can not do, too much money can do.

SonOfDSoil01:
idiot how does the comparison you made, make any sense to you?the Yoruba woman you mentioned, was she not voted for or how is eze or whatever title a political position? You mofo should learn to know your boundaries and restriction your nonsense to your 5 villages!

You're the idiot here. LP candidate who was a bonafide Lagos indigene was attacked and disparaged because he has an Igbo mother. What about the Yoruba council of Obas that is existing in FCT but Eze ndigbo in Lagos is a problem to y'all.

LegendHero:
You are just dumb.

SSN was created in the 1930s and sex has always been part of the data they collect right from inception.

Tinubu SSN record has always been consistent as a “Male” and even when he had issues with his forfeiture then, his record with the government shows he is a male.

So how can he then steal the SSN of a dead female and still proceed to live in USA as a male human.

Data in the 70s is as unified as data today. SSN has always been a unique identifier right from inception. Infact the main reason for initially creating it is to allow workers benefit from the social security scheme and for that a unique identifier is needed.

Data in the 70s is as unified as it is today? You're dumber than I thought. I'm a software engineer and I can tell you in the 70s, there was no unified central data anywhere in the world - most agencies kept paper records. The few agencies that used computer databases were using file system DBMS and if you know anything about database, you will understand what a file system DBMS is and how it works - it's 100% impossible to implement a unified national record on that.

As for the sex being part of the requirement for SSN, the non unification of national records makes it very easy to claim typo on one record and they'll update it for you as there's no real time access to real time data as we have it now. Lots or Nigerians were travelling with other peoples identity it was very easy back in the days. Why was some records showing male and some female? He went on a regularization spree but was not able to effect the changes on some records

Besides, drug barons are masters at manipulating records. Cartels travel as whatever they want - they have the funds and the connection to do that in any country of their choice. It's a known fact

LegendHero:
Be like you you even dumb pass the penguin guy.

If after all I explained you still confuse “Passport” which is a Nigeria property with “SSN”, a USA property and a unique identifier with better ID validation, then you are more dull than the 3rd class candidate Obi.

So the original was a student, came to Nigeria, died, then Tinubu stole her passport, then resume class as the said female as a male and no one in school took notice of that. Then Tinubu foolishly then take over her SSN # and then tell everyone in any office validating his SSN that he is an hermaphrodite who look like a male but is a female on file.

Walahi mad people plenty for this counrty.

There's absolutely nothing in what you explained as you were only asking questions that showed you were completely lost. You claimed "he doesn't need to inherit SSN when he can simply apply for a new one" this line of thinking is dumb.

As for your dumb questions, he can travel with any passport in the 70s and 80 with very high success rate compared to present day. Once he got to US, he can start the process of regularization and the regularization will be one after the other - data in the 70s was not as unified as it is in the 21st century so one can easily claim typographical error to change official records which is not possible under the unified database of the present day.

And someone that's working with a drug cartel can easily get any documents validated and regularized as they're known to always travel with different identities including as male and females

tolue42:
It's a common sense , how can you forge what you have

The school just swear on oath now that you can get their certificate through a third party vendor, so far you have their transcripts and graduated from the school.

That is a game changer words!

As e dey happen now now now. The thing dey hot 🔥 self

I wonder how much of Nigerian Commonwealth tinubu is splashing on this case. Imagine claiming someone can obtain certificate from a third party

LegendHero:
You are even more dumber than I thought. I remember my teacher used to tell me half education is the worst thing that can happen to a man.

First USA SSN is a well guarded unique ID # that is impossible to just say you steal it. The documentation and record keeping that goes into assigning the unique number to an individual will make it hard to just steal it and then use it at all strata.

On Tinubu;
—firstly, you don’t need SSN to secure admission into USA Univeristy. So why would Tinubu want to steal someone SSN when he already got admission without SSN?

—After you get admission and resume school, you go to the DSO office and then take your I-20, I-94 and your passport and form of ID to the social security office to get a SSN.

Why would he need to go over the hassle of stealing someone else when he can give himself legitimacy by getting an actual SSN?

—Your argument would have been considered if you need a SSN before you can secure admission. Also, logically, how does stealing someone SSN even come into the picture?

* Was the lady in question a student of CSU? If yes, won’t she also make use of her SSN and won’t CSU have duplicate SSN on file?

*was the lady dead before Tinubu stole it, if yes, what is the connection between her and CSU? Was she a former student or a new admitted student who died before starting class?

*If the lady was dead, how did Tinubu got any further document he got after using a dead woman SSN? When opening bank accounts, filing taxes, securing loan, data capturing, mortgages, and etc, will they not know it’s a dead person SSN?

What is wrong with you guys for heaven sake?

I think you're the one that lacks comprehension ability. If he stole someone's identity, he also has to inherit his/her SSN to make it legitimate - that's how it's done. Let's assume the original owner of the identity came to Nigeria and died in Nigeria, the passport can be given to a different person to travel down to Europe and inherit all his/her credentials. It was very common practice in the 70s and 80s up to the 90s. It's still done till today but with how far Nigerians have cast these things, they've started conducting more checks hence people are getting caught

I'm surprised yorubas are running their mouth here. Yorubas have their Obas in FCT and a yoruba woman is the FCT minister. Maybe FCT is now a yorubaland and I didn't know

Obi submitted the certificates and they can be found on the INEC website.

Agbadorians are in full force these days. How much are you guys being paid for this job? Create a thread and keep thousands of jobless youths on standby to parrot the same line to cover the first pages of the thread then push it to front-page. This is very shameful

I've always known that tinubu did indeed attended CSU but there are lots of issues. First, he used another person's transcript to gain admission and also forged his O level. I don't understand why he had to forge O level when he can also use the O level of the person that he assumed her identity. Another issue is, why did he have to forge his CSU certificate when he should have asked for a replacement.

I guess it's because he has a drug cartel background and already used to forgery

Ttalk:
Now that it has been established that Tinubu graduated from CSU, can we now move to the next propaganda?

Let me suggest one for the headless mob.

"Tinubu must provide his birth certificate because he was born the same year Lord Lugard married Florra

Did you read the post or you've sold your conscience for $20 dollars a month?

femisplash:
Yeah but no permission was granted. Given the same event surrounding Trump's taxes, till date no court has ordered his tax clearance be made public.

what was the probable cause for demanding for it? Atiku was able to prove inconsistency in Tinubu's certificate beyond all reasonable doubts

femisplash:
The word "sealed" or a sealed document usually means a judge has ruled that records normally open to the public cannot be released without court permission. Despite Trump's requests, Obama's records supposedly sealed were not released.
As Obama was running for re-election in 2012, Trump called him a terrible student and demanded he release his academic records to the public. He offered to make a $5million charity donation if Obama released his transcripts, labelling him as the least transparent President in the history of the country.
Few years later, when Trump became candidate, he directed his Attorney to threaten his own high school, college0 and the college board against ever releasing his academic grades, "if in the event any of his records are released or otherwise disclose without his prior written consent, we will hold your institution liable to the fullest extent of the law including damages and criminality" Cohen wrote in a letter to Fordham University on behalf of Trump in May 2015.

Did they approach a court and the court declined? Was there any probable cause to demand for the release of those records? Tinubu forged a certificate to present to INEC which is enough probable cause. Why would he forge his own certificate if he actually graduated? He should have just asked for a replacement

accordadoga30:
Hehehe

If these people grab power dem go use nzogbu nzogbu kill Nigeria.

No Igbo man will ever rule Nigeria not even sensible Umahi or Soludo

Hope you're enjoying the Fulani and Yoruba?

walefresh3:
the chaos will only affect the igbos more.. don't pray for what will consume ur kind in the West...

Let the court do their job...

Firstly, I'm not Igbo but why do you think the chaos will affect the Igbos more? And yes, we want the cour and the senate t to do their job. But if they don't - depending on how much evidence CSU is able to suppress, that Would be an invitation for chaos

designking:
The Chicago State University persistent claims that Tinubu was their student and he graduated from the school shows Tinubu actually went to the School.

CSU knows that Tinubu is a male and if truly the Tinubu that attended the school was female, they won't stick their neck for Tinubu.

Tinubu is only fighting over this issue because the document might show other irregularities like age or secondary school he attended.

Tinubu attended and graduated from CSU and the documents which will be released tomorrow will show this.

Fielding false age and secondary school credentials is as incriminating as fielding false degree.

If CSU is not able to alter some incriminating details or dodge releasing them under some technicality, it doesn't matter if the supreme court admits it or not. There might be a room to compel the rubber stamp Senate to impeach Tinubu or there will be chaos.

The youths have not resolved to violence because there is no 100% concrete evidence. Th people in charge of instituting a better Nigeria are mostly learned people and would not resolve to violence without 100% evidence - beyond all reasonable doubts.

yemmit90:
The basic needs of humans existence and everything needed to build both capital and humans resources are well within power of states and local governments to implement.

Education, health, commerce and industry, sports, entertainment, infrastructure, agriculture, culture and tourism, security to some extent and most recently power generation are all in cucurent list.

So tell me why must you always focus on federal government instead of holding your state governors and local governments authorities responsible? You talked about resources control, fine, and that is absolutely necessary to achieve true federalism but what has your governors being doing with billions of monthly allocation from federal account? Must it always be "natural resources "? What about humans and other capital resources that these highly corrupt governors failed to invest in to generate income for their states? Can federal government do anything for you withiout passing through your state governors?

The last time I checked, no law has ever prevented any state governor to start a business, pay his unemployed indigenes, take care of elders and children, built affordable estates, invest heavily in agriculture for food surplus, give free health care and education. So tell me why you have to neglect those taking money from Federal accounts to cater for your needs but keep blaming the same FG?

We need to thoroughly educate our youths on the important of their state and local governments system in their lives. These are the people mandated to take care of your community needs and not federal government. Infact we don't have much business with federal government. The only time we should apportion blame to FG is when they fail to give our state what it deserved.

Are you a joker? Do you know how much it takes for governance? States don't have enough funds to do all these things. For example, tell me any state in Nigeria that can fund state police or generate own electricity by themselves from the federal allocation? They're not doing business because they know that at the end of the day, they'll share from the common wealth. Put all these responsibilities on states and see how they must sit up or perish. If State A starts performing at optimal, state B will sit up or face the wrath of their citizens. There would be more and the non innovative states would be exposed

wakaman:
Na small small una go start to dey accept defeat.

Who be una? Though I gave up on Nigeria since I was a kid - I completely gave up on Nigeria in 2015 when Obama and the world powers connived with the worst of the political class which same Tinubu belongs in, to form APC. I'm not emotional about anything pertaining to Nigeria because I already know from that moment Nigeria was finished and will continue downwards

Parents are too selfish

yoruboid:
By Tuesday, the CSU will release PBAT’s non privileged records and at the end of the day, I can bet they will say CSU was bribed. They’ve been going on and on with several propaganda and insinuations but wait for it instead of preempting the court.

100% of their expectations have been dashed with respect to PBAT from the beginning of the year

From his mental state before the elections
To his criminality in the US which the FBI has debunked
To the belief that he will lose the elections
To the anticipation that he will never be inaugurated
To their rumor that he is on life support and will rule from abroad
To their expectation that he will be arrested on Inauguration Day
To their hope that the PEPT will sack him as president
To their conviction that he didn’t attend CSU (and the college has insisted he did)
To their claim that PBAT will be arrested if he sets foot in the USA

Show me one single thing the Obidenses have anticipated and achieved. Not one. All their lies and propaganda have been bursted but they never stop vindictively labouring in vain

Now it’s about his gender
Now it’s about the forfeiture
Now it’s about the FBI files
Now it’s the appeal to the Supreme Court

Just watch, like the others, they will cry premium tears

Fear a rich desperate man that knows how to use his money to achieve his goals. Tinubu is an evil genius and he is desperate, selfish and evil. He can sellout Nigeria to preserve himself. Unless America don't have any need of him anymore, nothing will come out of this case. One thing is certain - Tinubu has skeletons in his closet that the records will reveal but they'll only release information that will not reveal them or try to alter them. For example, date of birth and other information will not match with that of Tinubu because he has changed his identity and other information numerous times. Gender may or may not match but he most likely attended the university but he entered with another person's record

yemmit90:
FG has power, same with the state.

Except exploration of resources, foreign policy, security, and monetary policy, many others are on cucurent list, so why are we so focus on FG, while we allow governors to hide under our ignorance to milk the country dry?

States don't have power. FG has all the power. If we must prosper in this american system of government, there must be devolution of power as too much power at the center is ineffective. Well meaning Nigerians have been crying for resource control and true federalism but the northern dominated national assembly has been clamping down on it. Every sensible Nigerian knows this is the only solution to Nigeria's woes - in that case, having a Buhari or Tinubu as president will not have as much impact

MrBONE2:
Just simply put Horse race, camel race, Horse, cows and Ox-Carts race and see them dominate the table Bwana

That's why we shouldn't be in the same country. They should be added to Niger and Chad

yemmit90:
What happened to your state and local governments?

Many us don't even aware that most of the things we accuses FG of are purely state and local governments duties.

The FG has too much power and it doesn't make any sense. More power should be given to states to drive healthy competition