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Right decision. But why did they not check their genotype before the traditional marriage?

Thundafireseun:
Back then in school we were always advised that it was better to go to a market square and announce your secret deals….
Than to confide in someone from the SW , those guys have no secret ….

Mouth always leaking like tap

Must you guys bring tribalism into everything?

akinsmail51:
What is engagement in Islam?

Engagement in Islam means that a man asks to marry a woman and is accepted. The view of the scholars is that engagement is prescribed for one who wants to get married. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning): {And there is no sin on you if you make a hint of betrothal…} [Al-Baqarah 2:235]

It was narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) got engaged to `Aishah. (Al-Bukhari, An-Nikah, 4793) It is also stated in Al-Bukhari and Muslim that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) got engaged to Hafsah. (Al-Bukhari, An-Nikah, 4830)

Looking at prospective wife I Islam

The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) encouraged the one who wants to get engaged to look at the woman to whom he wishes to propose . According to the Hadith, “When any one of you proposes marriage to a woman, if he can look at that which will encourage him to go ahead and marry her, then let him do so.” (Abu Dawud, An-Nikah, 2082; classed as sound by Al-Albani in Sahih Abu Dawud, 1832)

Prohibited Practices in Engagement in Islam

But in Islamic Shari`ah there are no specific practices that must be followed with regard to engagement. What some Muslims do, announcing the engagement, having a party to celebrate and exchanging gifts, all comes under the heading of customs which are permissible in principle, and none of them are prohibited except those which Shari`ah indicates are prohibited – which includes the exchange of rings between the engaged couple , a custom which is known in Arabic as “Diblah.”

This custom goes against Shari`ah for the following reasons:


Some people think that these rings increase the love between the spouses and have an effect on their relationship. This is an ignorant (Jahili) belief and is an attachment to something for which there is no basis in Shari`ah and which does not make sense.

This custom involves imitating the non-Muslims such as Christians and others. It is not a Muslim custom at all. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) warned us against that when he said, “You will inevitably follow the paths of those who came before you, handspan by handspan, cubit by cubit, until even if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will follow them.” We said, “O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean) the Jews and Christians?” He said, “Who else?” (Narrated by Al-Bukhari, Al-I`tisam bil Kitab was-Sunnah, 6889 and Muslim, Al-`Ilm, 6723)

And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawud, Al-Libas, 4031; classed as authentic by Al-Albani in Sahih Abu Dawud, 3401)

This engagement usually takes place before the marriage contract , in which case it is not permissible for the man to put the ring on his fiancée’s hand himself, because she is still a stranger (non-Mahram) to him, and has not yet become his wife.

Finally, we will quote the words of Shaykh Ibn `Uthaymin (may Allah have mercy on him) on this matter:

“‘Diblah’ is a word that refers to the engagement ring. In principle there is nothing wrong with rings (i.e., they are permissible), unless they are accompanied by certain beliefs, as some people do when the man writes his name on the ring that he gives to his fiancée, and the woman writes her name on the ring that she gives to her fiancé, believing that this will guarantee the bonds between the spouses.

In this case this ‘Diblah’ or engagement ring is haram, because it represents an attachment to something for which there is no basis in Shari`ah and which does not make sense.

Similarly it is not permissible for the man to put the ring on the woman’s hand himself, because she is not yet his wife, so she is still a stranger (i.e., non-mahram) to him; she is not his wife until after the marriage contract is done.” (Al-Fatawa Al-Jami`ah lil Mar’ah Al-Muslimah, 3/914).

And Allah knows best.

Culled from IslamQA

Modern day Muslims do not want to copy Christians but Mohammed copied Christians in almost everything

Sahih al-Bukhari 5917
Narrated Ibn `Abbas:
The Prophet (ﷺ) used to copy the people of the Scriptures in matters in which there was no order from Allah. The people of the Scripture used to let their hair hang down while the pagans used to part their hair. So the Prophet (ﷺ) let his hair hang down first, but later on he parted it.

What is the order from Allah in the Quran concerning engagement?

Please go ahead and copy Mohammed by marrying 6 year old girl like Aishat or giving out your 6 years old daughter in marriage

BTW, was Mohammed engaged to Khadija?

Why did Allah swear by the Lord of the Easts and Wests?

“ I swear by the Lord of the Easts and the Wests, that We are Able.” Quran 70:40

ogbonti:
who made Obaseki fight Wike?

It was Shaibu


Do you remember when Wike asked Shaibu

who is your father? Obaseki responded harshly


to Wike because of that and that was the


beginning of the problem


But e don pass - no wahala


Nigerians Who are hungry now should better

go buy snipper and drink now because

Tinubu will win all 36 states in 2027 to get

reelected with an overwhelming mandate


4 more years of shege promax for Nigerians

so the earlier Nigerians start committing suicide

the better - in order not to prolong the agony!

Nigerians won’t see any shege pro max and won’t commit suicide just because your candidate didn’t win. We survived under military, we shall survive this too.

If pdp wants to help Nigerians from APC, they should stop their internal crisis and resolve their differences. A divided pdp will never defeat a united PDP

Congratulations to him

PDP is a house divided against itself that will never stand until the house is set in order.

Obaseki fought Wike, fought Shuaibu and yet expected his party to win?

Almunjid:
1. If the Quran states that it is clear, where does it require the use of Tafsir for understanding? Please provide a reference.

The verse you mentioned on "a clear Quran" is correct; Allah has made the Quran clear by explaining its contents to Prophet Muhammad. Nobody is more qualified to explain the revelations than the Prophet himself, as the Angel Jibril also explained them to him.

But the same Mohammed did not write any Tafsir yet you are giving us wrong interpretations written by those not present when Mohammed received the revelation. So the answer to my first question is no. The Quran never said that you need the Tafsir to understand the Quran

2. Did Prophet Muhammad author any Tafsir?

[higlight]Muhammad did not author a Tafsir,[/highlight]

Another “NO”

3. Were the authors of the Tafsir present with Prophet Muhammad during his revelations to know the meaning of the clear Quran?

Tafsir authors are akin to the authors of some books in the Gospel, who never met Jesus but received his history and teachings passed down through generations. As with the Gospel, authors like Matthew, John, Luke etc wrote their versions of Jesus's history and teachings transmitted to them, demonstrating a comprehensive understanding. Luke says, "It seemed good to me also, having had perfect understanding of all things from the very first, to write to you an orderly account, most excellent Theophilus" (Luke 1:3).

Another “NO”

Almunjid:
Tafsir, in simple terms, refers to exegesis or commentary on the Quran. It encompasses explanations of linguistics, historical contexts, and the circumstances (when, where and how) in which Quranic verses were revealed. An author of Tafsir is called a "mufassir." Mufassirs compile or study numerous Hadiths of the Prophet, historical events, linguistic elements, and the context in which verses were revealed. They then use this knowledge to interpret the Quran for others. A Tafsir aims to provide elucidation, explanation, interpretation, context, or commentary to enhance the understanding and conviction of Quranic verses. To comprehend Quranic verses clearly, one needs to study Tafsir, considering other similar verses, the audience being addressed, and the circumstances surrounding the revelation.

Arabs are group of people with different dialects and tribes. Just as there are many Yoruba tribes who may need explanations to understand a book written in standard Yoruba due to complexity of its vocabularies and grammar, different Arab tribes may also require help understanding the linguistic content from other tribes. Since Prophet Muhammad was from the Quraish tribe, his companions from other tribes often faced difficulties comprehending the linguistics of the Quran, which was mainly revealed in the Quraish dialect. The Prophet would explain the meanings of the verses, considering the linguistic nuances and tribal differences, and these explanations, along with historical context, linguistics etc, formed the basis of Tafsir.

Moreover, Tafsir shares similarities with the Jewish Talmud, a collection of rabbinic discussions, debates, and commentary on Jewish law, history, theology, and ethics, which helps Jewish people interpret the Torah. Furthermore, A lack of understanding of Tafsir can lead to misinterpretations of the Quran, even by Arabic-speaking scholars, resulting in misinformation, radicalism, and terrorism. Similarly, the absence of a compilation of Jesus' explanations of Biblical verses has led to various English-speaking Christians interpreting the Bible based on their understanding, claiming guidance from the Holy Spirit. This has led to the emergence of numerous churches, Christian denominations, different teachings and doctrines. Hopefully, this explanation has helped clarify the concept and importance of Tafsir.


Peace!

Don’t think that by writing long write up is enough to evade my questions!
You didn’t answer any of my questions.
Let me ask you again.
The Quran itself says it is clear:
And We did not give Prophet Muhammad, knowledge of poetry, nor is it befitting for him. It is not but a message and a clear Qur'an"
-Quran 36:69

1. So if the Quran says that it is clear, where did it ask you to use the Tafsir to understand it? Please provide the reference

2. Did Mohammed author any Tafsir?


3. Are the authors of the Tafsir with Mohammed when he received the Quranic revelation for them to know the meaning of the clear Quran?

Spoilers

Almunjid:
That interpretation is derived from the study of "tafsir" (Qur'an exegesis), which helps reveal the deeper meanings of Quranic verses. To gain a better understanding, you may consult sources like Tafsir ibn Kathir, Jalalain etc, or explore the Wikipedia entry on "shirk."

Wikipedia states that: "the Quran, the central religious text of Islam, states in 4:48 that God will not forgive shirk "if one dies" without repenting of it."


Peace!

Is there anywhere in the Quran where it is written that you need the Tafsir to understand the Quran?

Who wrote the Tafsir?


Was it Mohammed himself that received the Quran that also wrote the Tafsir? If he was not, then who were the authors of the Tafsir? Were they with Mohammed when he received Quran? Did they receive the Tafsir from Jibreel too?

Almunjid:
Lol. You misunderstood the context. The verse refers to those who die while associating partners with Allah; Allah can forgive other sins but not shirk (associating partners with Him). Abdullah reported that the Prophet, peace, and blessings be upon him, said, "Whoever dies while calling upon a partner besides Allah will enter Hellfire" (Sahih al-Bukhari 4497). However, if they convert to Islam and stop committing shirk, Allah says, "Say to those who have disbelieved [that] if they cease, what has previously occurred will be forgiven for them" (Qur'an 8:38).

We can understand three key points from this:
1. Those who die while associating anything with Allah will be forbidden from entering Paradise and will reside in Hell.
2. Those who repent for their sins, including shirk, will receive Allah's mercy.
3. Those who commit major sins but do not associate anything with Allah are subject to Allah's will. If Allah wills, He may punish or forgive them. If punished, their time in Hell will not be eternal; ultimately, they will find their way to Paradise.


Peace!

The verse didn’t mention “whoever dies”. Why are you adding to what is not there?

Sterope:
Blind leading the deaf @ ShoeGetSize:

Please show us where it was reported the prophet was a rich man. Don't bother replying. Quran has described you perfectly. . We know who you are

Show us where Khadija willingly gave her properties to Mohammed

Sterope:
Whatever rocks your boat

We are doing evidence-based discussion here. Is that Quran reference correct or not?

Sterope:
Yes, if you truly repent and don't go back to disbelief

That is not true. See that the Quran states that Allah does not forgive the sin of Shirk

Almunjid:
Verily! Allah forgives not (the sin of) setting up partners in worship with Him, but He forgives whom he pleases sins other than that, and whoever sets up partners in worship with Allah, has indeed strayed far away. (Qur'an 4:116)

Almunjid:
O My servants who have transgressed against themselves [by sinning], do not despair of the mercy of Allah. Indeed, Allah forgives all sins. Indeed, it is He who is the Forgiving, the Merciful,". (Qur'an 39:53)

All sins including Shirk? Does Allah forgive Shirk too?

doffman:
😀
Defend yourself with proof .

Have you shown the proof that I said he stole?

Because you believe he stole, you now thought that others have that belief too

doffman:
Since you confirmed he did not steal , I will let it go .

For thinking that I said he stole when I didn’t say it means that you believe that he stole, you can go now!

ibrhyme77:
Khadija wilingly gave her properties to the prophet to assist in his mission.She submitted her properties wiillingly,no other wives of the prophet did so and they were not forced to.

Where can we find what you wrote

doffman:
Revert to your first reply to me and tell me what you insinuated.

Show me where I said that Mohammed stole.
Put the screenshot here so that we can see who the liar is

doffman:
😀😀😀

I thought you said he stole her property ?

Indicate where I said such!

doffman:
Tell us where he turned her properties to her own ?

And compare it how your people use western court to steal properties of their husband ?

Tell us where Khadija willingly submitted her properties/money to Mohammed

Solitechworld:
There is nothing in the Quran that suggests that a man is allowed to beat his wife .

The Quran enjoins good treatment of one's wife: she is to be honoured and treated kindly, even when one no longer feels love in one's heart towards her. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good.” [al-Nisa 4:19]

The Quran explains that women have rights over their husbands , just as their husbands have rights over them. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise” [al-Baqarah 2:228]

This verse indicates that the man has additional rights, commensurate with his role as protector and maintainer and his responsibility of spending (on his wife) etc.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Majah, 1977; classed as sahih by al-Albani in Sahih al-Tirmidhi)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) spoke a beautiful word concerning kind treatment of one’s wife, stating that when the husband feeds his wife and puts a morsel of food in her mouth, he earns the reward of doing an act of charity. He said, “You never spend anything but you will be rewarded for it, even the morsel of food that you lift to your wife’s mouth.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6352; Muslim, 1628)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Fear Allah with regard to women, for you have taken them as a trust from Allah and intimacy with them has become permissible to you by the words of Allah. Your right over them is that they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike; if they do that then hit them but not in a harsh manner. And their right over you is that you should provide for them and clothe them on a reasonable basis.” Narrated by Muslim, 1218.
What is meant by “they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike” is that they should not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses, whether the person disliked is a man or a woman, or any of the woman’s mahrams [close relatives to whom marriage is forbidden]. The prohibition includes all of them. (From the words of al-Nawawi)

The hadith may be understood as meaning that a man has the right to hit his wife, in a manner that is not harsh and does not cause injury if there is a reason for that, such as her going against his wishes or disobeying him.

This is like the verse in which Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (next) refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allah is Ever Most High, Most Great” [al-Nisa 4:34]

If a woman rebels against her husband and disobeys his commands, then he should follow this method of admonishing her, forsaking her in bed and hitting her. Hitting is subject to the condition that it should not be harsh or cause injury.

Al-Hasan al-Basri said: “This means that it should not cause pain.”

‘Ata said: I said to Ibn `Abbas, what is the kind of hitting that is not harsh? He said, Hitting with a siwak and the like. [A siwak is a small stick or twig used for cleaning the teeth ]

The purpose behind this is not to hurt or humiliate the woman, rather it is intended to make her realize that she has transgressed against her husband’s rights, and that her husband has the right to set her straight and discipline her.

I provided you with Quran verse that shows that men should beat their wives and there you are doing copy and paste to confide yourself

Your Hadith shows that wife beating was rampant among Muslims during the days of Mohammed and he did not condemn it

Sahih al-Bukhari 5825
Narrated `Ikrima:
Rifa`a divorced his wife whereupon `AbdurRahman bin Az-Zubair Al-Qurazi married her. `Aisha said that the lady (came), wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came, `Aisha said, "I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!" When `AbdurRahman heard that his wife had gone to the Prophet, he came with his two sons from another wife. She said, "By Allah! I have done no wrong to him but he is impotent and is as useless to me as this," holding and showing the fringe of her garment, `Abdur-Rahman said, "By Allah, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! She has told a lie! I am very strong and can satisfy her but she is disobedient and wants to go back to Rifa`a." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, to her, "If that is your intention, then know that it is unlawful for you to remarry Rifa`a unless `Abdur-Rahman has had sexual intercourse with you." Then the Prophet (ﷺ) saw two boys with `Abdur- Rahman and asked (him), "Are these your sons?" On that `AbdurRahman said, "Yes." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "You claim what you claim (i.e.. that he is impotent)? But by Allah, these boys resemble him as a crow resembles a crow,"

Solitechworld:
Deuteronomy 22:13-21) calls for stoning a new wife to death if she's found to not be a virgin.

That was the punishment for sexual immorality in the days of Moses


What is the punishment for sexual immorality in Islam that even Mohammed himself executed while alive?

Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior." Ephesians 5:22-23

I still have more where this came from, but I want you to Yabb first

This is talking about wives submitting to their husband. It didn’t ask husbands to beat their wives unlike Quran 4:34 prescription:
“Men are caretakers of women, since Allah has made some of them excel the others, and because of the wealth they have spent. So, the righteous women are obedient, (and) guard (the property and honor of their husbands) in (their) absence with the protection given by Allah. As for women of whom you fear rebellion, convince them, and leave them apart in beds, and beat them. Then, if they obey you, do not seek a way against them. Surely, Allah is the Highest, the Greatest.”

AbuTwins:
Absolutely!

Lovely deenul Haq!

The wife can give alms Zakaat to her husband if he's poor!

And the wife can give anyone she wishes her property!

Khadijah gave the Prophet salallahu alayhi waslam all her wealth after marriage! She's an epitome of Submission! A woman of Jannah!

Please can you tell us where we can read what you wrote here

Islam freed women 1500 years ago!

How? Which wives of Mohammed had her own business or means of livelihood apart from Khadija who had her own business before she and Mohammed married?

English woman no fit own property after marriage before 1882's Married Women Property Act!
Even their inheritance was extremely limited.

Which religion ask husband to beat their wives?

ShoeGetSize:
Embarrassment will never allow them to admit this.

They sugarcoat lies too much

doffman:
Nice one . We Muslims do not steal people properties in the name of inheritance unlike some people we all know .

Who inherited Khadija and turned her properties to his own?

Solitechworld:
What you don't understand is that , it was willingly handed over to him by Khadeejah to control it and not to take over the ownership, He didn't ask for it....

The narrative has now changed from “her money is hers” to “she submitted willingly” ?