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addexx:
Good news for men

Now I can do my court wedding in peace.

But again if death is the only way to claim your properties and everyday you eat your wife's food, wahala still dey o .

Are u thinking that wives may start poisoning their husbands because of properties? Only the most wicked of the wicked will want to become a widow because of properties

Rashduct4luv:
Celebrating Birthdays is unfounded in Islam!

The day the Prophet was born is unknown!

What then is the point of your post?

Rashduct4luv:
When Was the Prophet of Islam - Salallaahu alayhi wa sallam - Born?

Popular but Unreliable Stories Series III

By Aboo Naasir - Hafidhahu-Llaah

There is hard evidence in the books of hadeeth and history that the Prophet, Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam), was born on a Monday and that he was born in the Year of the Elephant. As such, no known difference occurs among the people of knowledge on these points. However, that he was born in the month of Rabiu al-Awwal and specifically on its 12th day, although popular, is unreliable! The problem is compounded by the difference in the dates cited in the books of history.

Imam Ibn Katheer (d. 774 AH) – the author of the widely read book of Tafseer – has uniquely compiled the various dates that have been mentioned: Some say he was born on 17th Rabiu al-Awwal, others cite 2nd Rabiu al-Awwal and some others gave 8th Rabiu al-Awwal. 10th Rabiu al-Awwal, 17th Rabiu al-Awwal and 22nd Rabiu al-Awwal were also given in different sources. Other sources even said he was born in the month of Ramadan! Yet, no one of these dates – not any – is transmitted with an authentic chain!

The most deserving of attention is that collected by Ibn Abee Shaybah in his Musannaf from ‘Affan on the authority of Sa’eed bin Meenaa from Jabir bin Abdullah and Abdullah bin Abbass that: “The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) was born in the Year of the Elephant on the 12th day of Rabiu al-Awwal...” [al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah 2/260]. Apart from the fact that giving the chain of report includes a declaration that this report is weak and unreliable, Imam Ibn Katheer expressly said, “It has a broken chain.” [al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah 3/109]. And this is clear. ‘Affan bin Muslim as-Saffaar, a 10th category reporter cited the report from Sa’eed bin Meenaa, a tabi’ee in the 3rd category. [See Taqreeb at-Tahdheeb no. 2649 and 5200]. Shaykh Muhammad bin Abdullah al-‘Ushan included this date in his book on Maa shaa’a walam yathbut fee as-Seerat an-Nabawiyyah (Popular But Unreliable Reports Cited in the Prophet’s Biography) pg. 5-10, and Dr. Akram Diyaa al-‘Umaree who stipulated to give only reliable reports in his book about the Prophet’s biography did not even mention any of the dates at all.

So, that the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) was born on 12th Rabiu al-Awwal lacks evidence. He - sallallaahu alayhi wasallam - had said, “It suffices for a man to prove himself a liar when he goes on narrating whatever he hears”. (Muslim 7).

Dear reader, the fact remains that our religion is based on proven facts and Allah the Mighty and Sublime has promised and actually preserved it from any inclusions and deletions. If the actual date of birth of the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) has any act of worship consequent upon it, it would have been authentically preserved. The message of the Prophet (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) is centred upon rejecting every other deity and giving servitude to Allah Alone, FOLLOWING the Messenger (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam), not upon baseless suppositions and religious innovations.

Allahu al-Musta’an.

Sourced here

Also read In Madeenah Singing And Drumming Welcomed The Prophet Salallaahu'Alayhi Wasallam

Ok. We will help u to celebrate his birthday. just remind us when it is time but I heard that some of u Muslims don’t like celebrating his birthday

Godsonkemz:
corpers are paid stipendiary allowance not salary

And their stipendiary allowance has always been the minimum wage

Good one. They should remember the corp members too

gaskiyamagana:
It means Jesus did not die for all sins? Why the barking that Jesus died for sin as if it is all sins?

U did not answer the question I asked you: why will you still ask for forgiveness for the next one year if fasting on the day of Arafat will give you forgiveness of sins for another one year?

Antlislaam:
They mumu no be small with the stones they are throwing at sheytan.. Sheytan they have been stoning for centuries now never die na dem they die at the end

No single soul recorded in quran about been forgiven of his or her sin, they are only deceiving themselves

Real deceit

gaskiyamagana:
If truly Jesus died for your sin, why, why and what is meaning of your FORGIVE US OUR SIN in your daily prayer?

He died for the sins humanity committed through Adam and he told us to stop committing sins he never told us that we had the permission to be committing future sins like u teach in Islam, but because we are humans and hence not perfect anytime we sin again, we should ask for forgiveness.
As for you Muslims, why will you still ask for forgiveness for the next one year if fasting on the day of Arafat will give you forgiveness of sins for another one year?

Antlislaam:
Is tomorrow the day you will throw sheytan stones

It is one of the things that amuse me about Islam. Is Satan a physical body that they think they can stone?
Muslims don’t accept that Jesus died for the sins of the world but they believe that if they fast on the Arafat day, they would have their sins forgiven for the sins they will commit in the next one year, little wonder they do as they like!

ANTllSLAAM:
Eleribu Omo, take a look at the various versions of your Quran in the market. Ode oponu ayerada

This got me rolling with laughter

MaxInDHouse:
You should be wise enough to say whatever interests you in the discussion between two persons!

Answer the questions advocatejare asked you

MaxInDHouse:
Blackman's mentality!

Someone accuses the other and the next thing a black man awaits is SHOWTIME instead of thinking about what could have led to such an accusation that's unfounded?

OK now that i choose not to respond to the noisemaker according to his foolishness what has happened?

You are the fool here mr man, you are always everywhere acting like you know everything and someone asked questions about the foundation of your religious sect and you are wailing and looking for escape route by trying to pounce on me. I don’t have time for your nonsense attitudes, face the person that is asking you the questions you are uncomfortable to answer!

Almost everyone is feeling the heat of this administration!

advocatejare:
MaxInDHouse is ashamed of the life Russel the founder of his cult lived, he won’t answer you

I see!

MaxInDHouse:
OK you're not ORIGINAL but follow follow shey?
It's OK!

Mtcheew.Why don’t u face the person asking you questions and give him the answers?

MaxInDHouse:
If you have any question you're free to ask me on my thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/6589422/study-bible-jehovahs-witnesses
The OP is an atheist and if you're also an atheist let me know!

Go and answer the one advocatejare asked u

advocatejare:
I like the way you’re dissociating yourself with the founder of your cult, Russel the abuser, his lifestyle is not worth emulating. He failed in the simple task of keeping his home together

He went against the Christ’s teaching on divorce, he divorced his wife
He subjected his wife to mental torture.
He never followed Christ.
What is your sect’s stance on divorce today? Tell us MaxInDHouse do you also subject your wife to mental torture like your founder or you’re ashamed of his lifestyle and deeds?

Did he respond to these questions?

Bukola94:
I won't call you olodo like someone call me on this same topic. Forbidden of eating certain animals dey Hadiths, and same with horse and donkey meat. Did Jesus chop pork meat or dog meat ?

Allah revealed in the Koran that you can eat everything except a few ones, donkey meat is not one of the forbidden. Which do you rank first: hadith or Koran?

Bukola94:
I don't need to show you, Jesus made mention of prophet coming after him. He does speak in parables and only those that sees the light & those that have shared light in them will get the message clearly. Have giving you clue, so do your research

Be changing mouth there. Where did Jesus mention Mohammed in the Bible?

From the disastrous Buharinomics to the looking-good Tinubunomics

Lukuluku69:
When Jesus said eat Pork was he going against the word of Jehovah his Father or as some Christians says he is God, going against his own word as contained in the Laws he gave Moses?

Where in the Koran did the sacrificial animal of Abraham changed from ram to all kinds of animals?

Where in the Koran did Allah later forbid eating of donkey meat?

Lukuluku69:
Ease with the adjective.

That said, the change to eat Pork came from Jesus mouth: Someone who claimed to be sent by God.

So, if there is a Prophetic Utterances to that abrogation, it is good to go.

Like I said, go easy on the adjectives...

Where in the Koran did the sacrificial animal of Abraham changed from ram to all kinds of animals?

Where in the Koran did Allah later forbid eating of donkey meat?

Lukuluku69:
Are you ready to learn or just on one of your you lot meaningless and needless argument?

Chairman I asked you to show me two things in your Koran, if they are there show me, if they are not say it.
Stop playing dumb :

Where in the Koran did the sacrificial animal of Abraham changed from ram to all kinds of animals?

Where in the Koran did Allah later forbid eating of donkey meat?

Lukuluku69:
Ok.

Here is a lil' education for you. The Laws do change. I just showed you with the Restriction on Pork in the Old Testament and the supposedly abolition in the New Testament.

The same way Jesus came with the Amendment to eating Pork, so do the Quran make amendment to the Sacrificial Animals.

If Jehovah can allow Swine/Pork which Jehovah forbids thru Moses, why then it becomes an issue if Camels, Cows, Goats are now included?

Where in the Koran did the sacrificial animal changed from ram to all kinds of animals

Where in the Koran did Allah later forbid eating of donkey meat?

braveboy64:
You know nothing about Islam, just jumping from one argument to another, I won't continue arguing with you, go do more research, get concrete, unambiguous and indisputable evidences before coming for evidence.

Answer the questions I asked before you go:

your prophet was also an idol worshipper like his grandfather.

Do you know why he referred to himself as “the son of two sacrificed ones." ?

Do you know why Mohammed was said to be lost in the Koran

Can you tell us what god Mohammed was serving before he became a prophet?

braveboy64:
I'm a Muslim not an idol worshiper

But your prophet was also an idol worshipper like his grandfather.

Do you know why he referred to himself as “the son of two sacrificed ones." ?

Do you know why Mohammed was said to be lost in the Koran

Can you tell us what god Mohammed was serving before he became a prophet?

braveboy64:
I'm a Muslim

But your prophet was also an idol worshipper like his grandfather.

Do you know why he referred to himself as “the son of two sacrificed ones." ?

Do you know why Mohammed was said to be lost in the Koran

Can you tell us what god Mohammed was serving before he became a prophet?

braveboy64:
search for the names of Arabs idols, I'm a Muslim

Tell us the name of the idol the grandfather of Mohammed worhsipped and sacrificed the camels to

braveboy64:
I told you already, Allah isn't an idol, he worships his idols not Allah

What was the name of his idol?

Lukuluku69:
Chairman rest.

Jehovah told the Children of Israel not to eat Pork/Swine then enter Jesus (Who you claimed to be same Jehovah) who declared ALL Meat CLEAN and Eatable. You lapped that up because it is your "God" that commands such.

A Beam is about to cut off your head but you can see the speck in someone's eye?

If you believe Jehovah made that amendment, then Allah allows Camels, Goats too.

So, rest

chairman I think you should rest too.
you muslims say that you believe in the law of Moses and that your Allah revealed it. That law on forbiddance of some meat was given through Moses but your koran states otherwise that you can now eat everything except pigs, blood, what is sacrificed to another god and dead animals (Koran 2:173). No wonder some of your clerics are now saying that you can eat dogs, cat and anything except those forbidden in the Koran

So why did Mohammed go against what allah said in the koran by Mohammed forbidding eating the meat of donkeys?

braveboy64:
You should be more concern about yourself, they are believers

They are believers. Olright. They are just doing water Mohammed didn’t do, olright.

braveboy64:
Google, copy and paste as usual 😄.
Water is limited in the Middle East, so they utilize the ones available and accessible if they don't have supply to clean ones.
Islam is a flexible religion which makes provision for difficult times. If you have no access to cleaner water you use the one available. Water we use in performing ablution is dependent on accessibility and availability. Most people use clean water currently because it is readily available and accessible.

Now tell us about the chain of distribution of that hadith 😏, since you know about Hadith

Bring evidence that clean water was not available when Mohammed used the stinking water to do ablution.

And bring evidence that the only reason Mohammed used the stinking water was because there was no clean water 😂