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Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by elfadconcept04(m): 1:17pm On Jul 27, 2017
Good day house. Do anyone know the going rate for rentals of the following
1. Iron scaffold
2. Steel form
3. Marine board
Pls contact me on 07082866677 if you have form work for rent, beam, deck and columns.
Kindly reply if you know where I can get one.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 10:39pm On Jan 09, 2017
Gud evening Nairalanders.
Happy New Year. Wish us all a year of Divine Restoration IJMN. Happy to b back to my big brother Mr Fash's site. I am grateful for d magnanimity of heart and inviting me back to help complete the project..
Kudos to Dominion for giving my ceiling a beautiful character/ attitude. Ur ceiling came out nicely with the lightings inplace, it came out well. It's a tin of joy wen artist impressions come out nicely. Kudos to Mr Fash. The project is almost there.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 8:56am On Dec 28, 2016
Raft or concrete generally is watered and the process is called "curing"
Curing is the protection of fresh concrete from evaporation and temperature extremes which might adversely affect cement hydration. If concrete is to gain potential strength and durability it must have sufficient water for the hydration of the cement, and a temperature conducive to maintain this chemical reaction at a rapid, continuous rate. Basically watering helps maintain, improve concrete temp to gain it's required strength.

adewaleID:
@Fash Pls who supplied your laterite?Can I have his details pls and why was the Raft watered after the form work was taken off?
Properties / Re: Integrated Waste Treatment Plant. by elfadconcept04(m): 8:44am On Dec 28, 2016
Can u see the gas piping in progress.. Waste to resource..

Properties / Re: Integrated Waste Treatment Plant. by elfadconcept04(m): 12:22am On Dec 28, 2016
Digester dome completed, expansion chamber completed and filtration bed completed.. Gas open installation on going.

Properties / Re: Integrated Waste Treatment Plant. by elfadconcept04(m): 12:18am On Dec 28, 2016
Making of 10cubic meter IWTP -integrated waste treatment plant to accommodate four flats of 3bedroom flats all ensuite at Nigeria Army post service Estate Ojoo. Lagos State

Properties / Integrated Waste Treatment Plant. by elfadconcept04(m): 10:56pm On Dec 27, 2016
1.Do u av troubles with ur septic tank and soakaway?
2. Are u tired of evacuating ur septic-tank/soakaway every month/ 6months?
3. Is ur proposed septic-tank/soakaway for ur new building occupying much space such dt u don't av space for parking ur vehicles?
4. Would u like to reduce d money u spend on ur cooking gas? Would u like to stop spending money to dispose ur kitchen waste and left overs? No more throwing away of ur left over rice, Amala or Eba. De can all be converted to Biogas- cooking gas.
6. Is ur septic-tank/soakaway leaking, such dt water is seeping into it?
7. Would u like to recycle ur waste water from ur septic-tank/soakaway to fertilizer for ur farm or recycle the effluent(waste water) to water ur green areas (garden)

Den u need search no more. Contact us at Elfad Concept for " Integrated Waste Treatment Plant" (IWTP.) Ur waste management solution.

We handle both kitchen and toilet waste at pocket friendly price.
Who can use IWTP? Everyone.
Homes, Offices, Churches, Mosques, Event centers, Hotels etc.
Below is our installation at RCCG - CITY OF DAVID, OFF LIGALI AYORINDE, VI, LAGOS. Other client include First Colony Hotel Ikosi Lagos, Carter's Court Abuja, propertymart Housing Development Magado Lagos.
On Going projects include Centre Mosque Dolphin estate Lagos. Four unit 3bedroom ensuite apartment at Nigeria Army post service Estate Ojoo.
Call us today for a quote on :
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Properties / Re: Making Of 4unit Block Of Flats At Magboro,2unit2beds &2unit3beds by elfadconcept04(m): 9:27am On Feb 22, 2016
Hihi folks.. One of my Nairaland clients just sent me pictures of her project which I handles just a small chunk of.. Basically d precast parapet and windowhoods. Check out d size of d columns n notice dt de r proportional to d size of d building..

Properties / Re: Making Of 4unit Block Of Flats At Magboro,2unit2beds &2unit3beds by elfadconcept04(m): 9:21am On Feb 22, 2016
Hihi folks.. One of my Nairaland clients just sent me pictures of her project which I handles just a small chunk of.. Basically d precast parapet and windowhoods.

Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 9:31am On Feb 17, 2016
Mr Funsho. I have not refuse to work on ur site. My plumber has not refuse or absconded...
We agreed on a day de will come to site to work, unfortunately de couldn't come because there was a pressing need to deliver on another of my job, we were also both working on my former bosses job dt was equally demanding attention n I apologized. I remember sending a mgs dt some works were demanding serious attention n dt was y we couldn't come. Guess u saw some of d pics of d lekki job on facebook.
In every construction, mechanical n Electrical r the last persons to leave d site.
U asked wen will den come? Unfortunately I could not give a definite ans on that Thursday wen u asked because another client wanted to use his house for his daughters wedding and All of a sudden, He started rushing to meet up so he could use d house. Like I mentioned, I could not ans d questions u asked so I decided to c how far I can meet up with d other demand n give a concrete ans and so I don't give another date n disappoint u. Like I did d previous week, wen I said de will come n de could not come. Thursday was still midweek n I could not rili give u a day, On Sunday I sent u a mgs dt d plumber will come on wed. Guess u dint read my mgs,b4 u sent me a stinker mgs with an ultimatum. Wow..
Anyways I am not quarreling with u.. Unfortunately n honestly, at ds stage of d work, it's not going to be easy for another plumber to understand Wat we have done. More so, your design Is a little complex. It's not in ur interest to get another plumber, bt u were too angry..and u want to prove a point. I rili would not like to use d kinds of words u usually use (I fired you) or words u use to attack me.. Each time I respond here, I am careful with words..just yday I ad a meeting with someone I met here on Nairaland n have worked for him. We discussed ds issues/tread n he asked if I av made effort to broker peace? I av tried not to call u names. Nevertheless I am open to finishing d job. D only problem I av with u is d fact dt u tink dt because u pay someone to do a job, den u can talk to d person anyhow.. I believe dts very wrong, we shld not even talk to our subordinates or d least pple around us anyhow.. D way u talk to me is Wat upsets me, wen I respond in d same manner, I am labelled rude. if u can Improve on dt (communication) or go back to d way u use to talk to me wen we started ds project den, there won't b any quarrels or misunderstanding. On the other hand, if u insist on using another person n de av Any issues. Call me. I will come look at it.

Mr Yinka like I said b4, din't know u ad grudges against me. Even wen fash sent me d mail u sent him, I still don't know it was u. I replied dt mail, and asked for a meeting iron out any issues, yet I don't get a reply. If I knew u ad grudges against me, I won't av d audacity to call u late last year, Wrt to the plumber not coming to ur site, it's Only normal dt u call his boss n not call him directly, unfortunately u dint call me, even wen I sent a msg Dt u shld not call dem bt call me.. Anyways I am opening to meeting with you like I mentioned in d last mail to settle any difference we have.

One thing I am happy about is dt, none of u av accused me of embezzlement of funds for materials which is usually the issues.
None of u av questioned my professional skills n Ability of Dt I did a bad job or dt my work n workmanship is not neat..
Wrt respect to labor rates, my labor rates are far cheaper Dan Wat ur Qs provides which is usually statutory. My labor rates are far cheaper than Wat ur BOQ stipulates. My labor rates r cheaper Dan Wat some other contractors take..
An example pple must realise is in tiling. The general direct labor rate is #300/350. Yet some guys will do 200/250(togo bois which is high risk Wrt workmanship not all of dem r Gud) some other tilers take 450/500 and some take 700 for granite n Marble.. Some folks will say is marble not tiles too? N want to pay 250/350. .
My advice to all dt care, in as much as u don't compromise materials try not to compromise labor.. U will pay twice wen u compromise labor/workmanship..



fash78:


My brother abeg let's stop responding to Dele. Let's all move on. I have given him my last comments so I won't respond to him directly anymore and I would like you to do the same.
Elfad is the one that needs to protect his business name cos anybody reading all these will be very careful in dealing with you. Dele immediately I noticed your workers charge ridiculous amount I put up a plan in place as mitigation. If you noticed I stopped you from suggesting artisans or negotiate with them on my behalf. I am now directly negotiating with all the artisans working on my project except for the plumbers and electrician who I have paid so much that I could not go back and find someone else.
You know the main reasons I fired you. I warned you severally about the plumber and electrician when you were collecting money for them. I told you that we are overpaying these guys you said they won't run away. And that shebi we are paying them from the amount negotiated so no problem. I asked you I will hold you responsible for them if after collecting money they refused to complete their work. You said I should go ahead that they are your workers you will take responsibilities for them. How much patience do you want me to have since last year November thsy you collected 40K and 30K for the plumber and electricians respectively. You even asked for additional 15K for the plumber this January claiming he has spent the initial 40k and he didn't have transport money to come to site that is why he has not come to complete the work. I initially refused to send you the additional 15K but when I see you don't care if the work is stalled, I sent you the 15K for the plumber 2nd week of January. Up till now the work is still not done and you expect me to keep quiet?? I work for my money, so I expect you and your workers to do the same.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 9:20am On Feb 16, 2016
Mr Yinka. If I dint give d plumber d 50k, he won't keep working for me. D 50k was suppose to b from foundation to decking sir..
1.yes u pleaded wit me to take 60k for d fence n I did
2.for professionals in d house, d volume of concrete for ur foundation is usually equal to d volume for ur decking.. It's a rule of thumb. If u remember sir, u practically was using my estimate wit mr fash as ur guide. Lemme remind u dt price differ from person. To person. D suppier dt started supplying sand to ur site, gave it to us at 50k per 20tons. Later u brought a woman dt gave us or gave u for less.. Can't b too use bt I tink 43 or 45. I know it was less Dan 50. Does dt make d initial suppier a cheat?? Everyone knows in surulere bt sharp sand is 50k. U got someone who I tink her husband has a truck n was ready to take less. WTs d crime.
3.check ur records sir. I advice we buy 300bags, guess we bought 200bags since we had some left overs from the blinding.. I 45 bags is even too much for German floor to decking.. If u use 5000blocks, u r likely to use 100bags. Rule of thumb. Mr Yinka sir, u dint use up to 5000blocks for your ground floor.. Where av my estimate gone wrong..
4. Ur project has bin roofed for a long while. Infact u noticed u rush d project. I am happy for u.. I can take d pics and post for others to c.. D design, d quality of workmanship is nothing compared to what I did with Mr fash's project.
5.. Anymore who is interested in ds case, I can give u my plumbers number to find out if I dint pay him..

I will not insult u or exchange words with u, after working for Mr fash n u, I learnt to insist on contract signing.. So all parties know their responsibility..
I dint know u hold grudges against me sef. Yet I called last year to ask for ur suppliers number. If I had something against u or if In my heart of hearts I av cheated u, would I av d audacity to call u.. Or send u a mgs. Which u replied.. Even wen fash sent me d mail u sent to him, I dint know it was u.. I sent a response to d email address explaining my mode of civil engineering practice and explaining Hw I prefer clients to buy materials because dts where d quarrels n misunderstanding usually comes from. Mr Yinka is there any material dt u gave me money to buy dt I dint buy
D problem u av with me is dt my plumber dint come to work on ur site..
D right tin to do, was to call me by because u had ur own plans. U refuse to call me.. I sent a mgs dt don't call my workers call me.. U gave me money not dem.
It is a known fact which both Engrs n clients usually do.. We get to give a job to someone, den go behind and collect d number of d artisan, so we can deal directly wit d artisan in future or in d course of d project... Alot of pple do this.. Even Engrs and contractors. Bt it is wrong. No trained Engr will take over his bosses job, no trained
Artisan will take over his bosses job or work behind his engr especially on d same site..
If I dint pay my plumber, will he ask u to call me? Will he call me to inform me dt ur wife has bin Calling him? How did I get to know u were in contact with him n I sent u a mgs to contact me n not my workers..

I have worked for madam Franka, Mr Hakeem, Mr Teslim all from Nairaland and a lot more. I dint have issues with them. I have done to sets of job for madam Franka, I finished d first one, she called to start d 2nd n we don't av issues..
The question anyone reading ds narratives from Mr fash Mr Yinka n myself Elfad's shld ask is, WATS d common problem..
Is it that they gave me money to buy materials n I ate it
Is it dt de gave me their job and my workmanship is bad or poor?? And =NO
Is it do I stole their materials from d site because some Engrs Do steal especially cement. And = NO
Did I make dem buy materials de don't need, de are not necessary or buy surplus of can't be reused. And = NO

If u check all d questions n their complain, d obvious ans is NO I dint do any of d above questions..

I simply asked for my statutory fee as an Engr. I simply asked for 10% of the amended quotations dt reflects d real picture of WATS required to build n finish d house In Question, which is negotiable. One of d names I mentioned earlier negotiated to 8.5% and in all honesty, he is a Gud man. Another of d names I mentioned earlier dt I met from Nairaland offer 5% even though his project sum is low, n d project is small, he did mention St he knows 5% I'd small bt dt he could not pay 10%..
De say Gud men r hard to find but I av met honest pple on Nairaland... who want to pay for services, who do not want to take advantage of u.. I am sure all d Engrs here understands Wat I am saying here Abt pple who r willing n ready to pay u for even consultation or give u some amount for ur fuel and time n not interested in taking advantage of u..
I simply ask n Negotiate with my workers on behalf my clients, directly n indirectly (indirectly so I don't lose d job because d artisan is asking for 2much n d client will either bring his own person or take d job completely from me) I know hw much shld b d limits. Most Engrs can attest dt sometimes we plead wit ds artisans to accept lower fee so d work can progress.
In all of the accusations, Mr Yinka n Mr fash said my plumber charged high.. I av asked severally on ds platform is 300k too much for a 4unit duplex with 16toilets, 4kitchen n external works? Remember d last artisan to leave a site or a building project is d plumber..
De av both mentioned d amount I charged dem. I av never requested for more Dan 10% even though depending on d project sum I can ask for a higher percentage if d project sum is low n a lower percentage if it's higher.
u want to pay an engr 1.2M for a duplex and 2nos 3bedroom flats... Haba Deris God.. Some Engrs can take it anyways.. Our level of experience differs and so is our charge.. Every Engr is free to charge Hw much he feels he is worth. I dkon't c dt as cheating. Some contractors prefer young graduates to experienced Engrs so DE can pay 50k or less.. Dts not a crime.. Some of my fomer bosses call me wen they want to do technical jobs dt require experience patience, accuracy.. Yet DE av young Engrs dt receive 50/100k..i can post pictures of such jobs as evidence..
If u cant pay an amount Dos not make it a reap off.
In d beginning of d projects, Elfad was Gud, after d foundation, u shout crucify him.. Dts bad..
We r men, u dint call me Mr Yinka. U got Wat u wanted which is for me to do ur foundation, U wanted to bring ur bricklayers in n push me off..
No trained n experienced worker will go to a site where his boss has bin push away.. I am sorry we r on ds road.. It's unfortunate. In all our communications, I never expected it to go de way. It's a pity u r bitter about d fact dt my plumber dint come to ur site after u pushed me off. I am sorry aby dt..
In all of d two accusations, we could av handled it differently bt it seems everyone had his mind set n intentions unknown to the other..
I am not going to call u names like u av done, bt if I av cheated u, God sees.

ycoxyng:
Dele,

What is the the problem with you? You are fond of writing long Epistle full of lies. You are the reason why some projects are abandoned half way due to exploitation by you and your workers. For your information, I have built 2 properties before I met you thru Fash project on dis forum. My candid opinion about you is that you a wicked and have no conscience.

Am a private person and don't like to discuss my matter on a public forum, I think I need to open up a bit. Now let me refresh your memory on so many areas I had issue with you.

1. Your requested for the sum of N150K for supervising of the fence work. The fence that cost less than N400K. I finally paid you N60K after so much argument.

2. Casting of the raft labour. You insisted that I should pay N140k. Your attitude of don't negotiate labour charges forced me to pay this ridiculous amount. For you info, after I fired you, the Decking casting was done at the rate of N140k with two machines. Dele, you a big time cheat.

3. Materials savings; you don't save clients anything in fact it cost more. For example, the cement(145 bags) left after the German floor casting was enough to set the Blocks and casting of the Lintel. Your estimated numbers of cement was a fraud.

4. Supervision fee to Finish. You charged me the sum of N2.4M based on your wide dreams of sum of N24m to finish. I told you I will pay you N1.2m that I will not use N24m to finish my project. You insisted on N2m or nothing. You were so stubborn to deal with and you refused to shift grounds. To God be the glory the house is 85% completed and the total sum spent is N14m with quality and best of materials. Thank God I fired you. I would not have reached that level with u and your quack labourers.

5. Plumbing works; see your life. The N50K that I transferred to your account nko. Did you give the Plumber the money? Also, is N50k the labour for putting pipes waste in the raft foundation? Dele, you are cheat and between you and me, you never pay the plumber N50k. If you have integrity, you should have refund part of my money back.

I rest my case with you and if not for your unnecessary rants that you are not working with Fash again. Trying to gain sympathy from Nairaland for the action Fash took to fired you. Considering what I was able to achieve with my small money on that project, I will fire you one Million times. Yeye dey smell.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 8:04am On Feb 15, 2016
I won't argue sir. God is our witness. He knows who is lying n who is saying d truth..
If it's only u n Mr Yinka dt accuse me.. Dts fine by me. I won't call u names. I know u very well. I won't b tempted to reply u d same way u speak or accuse n Me.. There are pple here on Nairaland Dt I av finished their projects n we dint quarrel.. Pple who cheat others tink everybody is a cheat... I can roll out several occasions dt u av lied Abt comparative price especially during d roofing bt Deris no need.
I implore anyone who is interested in ds case to visit Mr Fash's site n c D mess d bricklayers from Ogbomoso av done.. Yet my oga says it is fine by him. His Elder brother n His cousin confirmed dt d workmanship is bad too. D question is Hw much did u pay d bricklayers.. I guess u agreed Abt 1.1 or 1.2 can't b to sure. D initial quotation fash mentioned his ogbomoso bricklayer made was 1.8M he miraculously settled wit d guy for Abt 1.1 or so.. Sir, if u like to hear praise singers, u wont hear d truth.. God knows dt Ur Cousin n bricklayer from ogbomoso n loads of pple bad mouths u.. I repeat all ur friends dt I know.. Bt I won't come on social media n wash dirty linens.
D ogbomoso project, dint u quarrel with ur uncle d surveyor over money n d work he did or u wanted him to do?? D fact dt u finance a project Dos not give u d right sir to talk to pple who work for u anyhow. U said u want someone u can control, no problem I wish u well in dt venture.
I don't a problem wit u like I av mentioned in our private chat, u r d one at is quarreling.. It's so not right dt we quarrel on social media bt no wahala..
U r right sir in everything. N I am wrong... I implore everyone reading to watch d language n tone of Mr fash.. Yet I am d rude one. D liar.
Pls go to his site n evaluate d quality of workmanship all d Pple he has brought in av done..
All d professionals in d house. If u say 300k is high for 16toilets, 4kitchen 2water tank. Piping fitting and finishing den I will accept Dt I am wrong n my workers reaped my senior brother n friend off.. How much is appropriate per toilet. Hw much will u or shld u pay a plumber working on a single duplex...
Anyways it's unfortunate dt we r on ds road.. I don't hate u, I am not rude bt I don't like injustice.. Wish u well. I am not bitter. It's simply unfortunate, not every relationship is for ever..i leave d rest narrative.. It is well..





fash78:
Dele this is the last time I will respond to.you on this forum. You can say whatever you like and God knows most of the things you wrote here are all lies.

1. I never told you or agreed with you that the duration of construction will be 6 months. That is a terrible lie. When I no be Dasuki son where would I get that amount of money in 6 months to finish this huge project.
2. Yes we have had just two major breaks during this project. The first one we were asked to stop work based on order from above. This was something beyond my control and you know it. This affected some people in the estate and not only us. The second break we had was when I was building the bungalow in the village. I told you that we needed to stop work on the Lagos project because my cash flow can't support two buildings at the same time.
3. I sent you to Ogbomoso just only once when we were trying to locate where borehole should be located. This was supposed to be a day trip however I still asked about accommodation you told me you would like to stay with your Pastor/lecturer whom you told me you needed to see as you have not seen him in a while. Dele if you are looking for things to castigate me look for something else.
4. On this 4-bedroom bungalow project issue I offered you 250K you refused. Dele I still have the records of all our chats. You insisted on 450K. Well I could not afford that and I moved on there is no wahala. And the total amount I spent is not up to 5M you are brandishing here. I don't know where you got that figure from. May be you are using that figure to justify the 500K you were asking for supervision.
5. As per the fence Dele I don't have anything more to say. Why would say fence is not part of the agreement?? That was very shocking when you said that last year. But anyway let's even assume it is out of scope, there is nobody that I told that my engineer was asking for 500K to supervise my fence construction. Some of the people I told were like is a supervisor in Julius Berger??
5. Dele we both know "your workers" charge cut throat wages. remember the roofing stage?? Your carpenter quoted one ridiculous amount to roof the house. I told you I would shop around. I got Muyensky and we agreed on a more reasonable price for the roofing. Did you allowed Muyensky to do the roof?? The answer is No. You latter turn around and told me you will convince your carpenter the same amount Muyensky agreed to do the roofing. This is one of the numerous cases of how I busted your workers. What of the plastering stage?? I was not sure of how much to negotiate the plastering of this building but thank God for people like Spyder and Muyensky. The price range both of them gave me is between N800K - 1.1M for the plastering work. Your mason was asking for 1.5M! That is why I brought those bricklayers in. They did the fence anyway and I am okay with their work.

I can go on and on Dele but anyway there is no need for that. I have moved on. I am the one losing at the end of the day because you have collected 1.4M out of your fee of 1.8M. You have collected 245K for the plumber out of the 300K negotiated. You have also collected 145K for the electrician out of the 230K negotiated. But you what I am ready to lose all that money even though the work you and your workers have done is not commensurate with the money in your pocket.

Dele, I will warn you to desist talking about family and friends of mine. Any of my friends or family that is afraid of me to tell me the truth (as it is in the figment of your imaginations) is not worth to be my friend or to be called my family. Why would my family and friends be afraid of me? I put fire for head shuo!

Lastly Dele, when people started complaining about you as a business man, then watch it. You can say everything here to justify your actions but you know what 2 people can not be wrong about everything. In a nut shell myself and Mr Yinka can not be wrong about everything we have said here about you. I didn't know Mr Yinka from anywhere. It was when he started having problems with you and he sent me an email that I got to know him. And as someone who wants your progress, I forwarded the email to you and advised accordingly that money is not everything.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 12:46am On Feb 15, 2016
Pls Dos who want d windows b careful of cheap, d quality of d Windows n burglary is questionable . D welder used white light pipe for burglary hence d price is cheaper Dan black pipe or black thick pipe..
D question is, do u want to use a white pipe for ur burglary U can ask ur Engr for d merits n demerit.. Cheap is never quality dt don't also b naive Abt price. Check ur prices.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 11:52pm On Feb 14, 2016
My spyder.. I agree with u dt our work is delicate.. I wont join words with Mr Funsho.. If u go by my last narrative, I was careful to b Civil. The problem Engrs /contractors av wit clients is wen a client tries to cheat the contractor..
I have worked with several pple from Nairaland, I dint even know Mr Yinka had issues with me not until he sent a mail to fash dt I reap pple off.. On the other hand, he later said my works reap off n charge high n not me. . Tank God he later corrected d statement even though his intention is to spoil my name..
For Mr Yinka Ogundele's project.. He knew Wat he wanted from d beginning dt he only wanted an engineer to handle his foundation because d site was water logged. His design/project is a standard duplex and a attached two numbers two bedroom flat, Sitting on ground n first floor...
Pls Hw much shld a plumber charge?? Hw much will u pay a plumber for piping, fittings, external worker n finishing for a duplex and an attached 2nos 3bedroom flats. D area of d entire building is Abt 11m x 25m..
Well like he mentioned my Plumber charged him 350 thousand to do d work from scratch to finish.. He pId 50k during d foundation where d plumber laid all d starter waste pipes In foundation for d 3 apartments.
Mr Yinka called me to a meeting after paying for foundation.. He offer a million Naira for supervision from oversite concrete (German floor) to completion of d project. Based on our calculations it will cost Abt 20M. Dts if we use my methods n resources. N not use Boq which we AL know dt, not all items n descriptions are usually paid for during construction. I asked for 10%. Making 2M, he offered 1M, I declined, he said he was going to contact me. I was hoping he will offer something reasonable say 7%, Unknowing to me, he had his plans.
D first day he invited me to his site, he came with his bricklayer dt has built for him b4. He shld av just open up to me dt he only needed me for d foundation, Wat de (client won't say) unfortunately is dt d following week, Mr Yinka bricklayer has began working, only for pple in d neighborhood to call Dt someone else was doing d work. Wen DE got to a stage, de needed my plumber, he called d plumber behind me n d plumber said he can't come to d site because d client ought to call his Engr to ask him to come to site. My Yinka n his wife kept calling him to come n work on dia site. Pls note dt since my last meeting with Mr Yinka, he dint n has not called me till date.. Last I can remember is dt I called him last year to give me d number of d sand Supplier he brought to site whose price was Gud.. Unknown to me, he holds grudges against me sef.
I had to send him a mail to stop contacting my workers, if he needs to dem,he shld call me. He dint engage dem on his own..
Pls tell me, is 350k for plumbering labor a reap off.? For a duplex n 2nos of 3bedrooms. From start to finish??

Back to Mr Fash...
I know Mr fash 2well dt I am not suppose to say something here. By I will respond a little.
1. Mr fash said he fired me. No problem.
2. I av worked with some pple here, we finished d scope of work, de dint cheat me, DE paid as at wen due, we respect each other.. I av adviced dem severally n DE dint av any issue wit me, for Mr Fash to say I am rude is one side of d coin. He dint mention his own statement to me.. Trust me, I know him so well. I know Wat his friends n family say Abt him by I won't go there.
3. Mr fash asked me to supervise his project in ogbomoso, I told him I won't charge him, dt he shld tell me Wat he has in mind to pay.. He said he will give me 150thousand Naira for a 4bedroom bungalow in ogbomoso. Pls note dt he dint also mention ds wen he reported me on ds platform. Mr spyder, 150k for an Engr to leave Lagos to ogbomoso for a project he proposed will last three month. I told him Haba, I shld ask for 500k or more bt don't rubbish me wit 150k, there r times I went to ogbomoso on his behalf, he dint provide accommodation ooo.. I ad to stay over at my psts place. To cut d long story, he said dt was his final offer n I notice dt his father n brother were also interested In Handling d project because de av bin. Calling me to send d drawings so d bricklayer can study it.. I had to ask Mr fash weda or not I shld send it. He gave go ahead n I sent it to dem.. D history here is dt I dint do d job..
150k.. 4bedroom in ogbomoso... Deris God. For some reason he said he will 2.5m on d 4bedroom bungalow, which everyone dt knows construction know dt, dts not possible. I did a bill n told him he will spend Abt 2.4M from start to roof stage which he said no ooo, ds materials n labor is cheap in ogbomoso ds n ds dp he's Max spend WIl b 3M. Last I can remember, he confirmed dt he spent Abt 2.5M to get to roof covering. We all know a Gud finish 4bedroom will cost Abt 5M to build.
4.wrt d fence,
wen fash n I discussed d project cost, I showed him how we can do d project for less Dan d 52M his Qs had prepared if we do direct labor which removes a lot of unnecessary cost.. We settled for 32m, give n take which I assured him was doable for d Design provided d taste of finishing is not too high. I asked for 10%. Fash said he was going to give me 1.5M. We later settled for 2M after several pleading n promises, he will introduce me to his friends ds n dt. God is my witness dt he was pleading n made all sort of promises. He promised dt we will finish d project in 6months...
Ds project is 2years 4month old 2day. He stopped d project for some times which is normal. My workers wanted variation due to inflation n time loss yet I told dem we won't do dt.. After one of Dos stoppage, we decided to do d fence, Pls note dt we dint discuss fence, d 32M was for d main building. So I asked to be paid for d fence.. Pls Mr spyder is dt a sin or a crime.. He was furious dt he won't pay, said so many things, I later sent him a mail to pay 500k knowing well dt he won't pay it n will offer a ridiculous amount as usual. He blasted n blasted dt he will fire me, infact he has fired me, later he sent another mail dt he will do d fence himself n I will continue wit d project.. I said no problem, do d fence ur sef.. If u go by d analysis he posted on d fence n gate house, he spent over 2M.. D record is still on Nairaland.. For Godsake, ds project is in Lasu iyano iba.. I will spend money on logistics, fuel n I av a family. N u don't want to pay.. I told him, Hw much will u pay for d fence n he insulted me.. We both moved on after d fence he cLled on me, we moved on, I bought doors for him n we continue d project..
Pls is it wrong to ask to be paid for fence work? If he had even said Elfad I will give u 50k or 100k. Withing Lagos here, I will do it.. Yet he spent 2.2M or more on d fence..
At d inception of any project I always advice my clients to get security men on ground.. For Mr fash's project we were paying 5k to a farmer who resides in d estate to stay over at our place.. We resumed to site, d plumber wrote out d mats he needed. Fash was buying dem in bites. Unfortunately some items were stolen after work had started, now ds is d issue,
wen we had nobody on ground no security man, d site had no door or window, not got missing. Wen d bricklayers he brought from ogbomoso came n DE sleep in d site o, mats get missing not ones bt twice..
B4 d 3rd purchase like Mr fash mentioned, we gave d list to his cousin, for some reasons, he refuse to give d list to fash, d same cousin dt all of a sudden started acting up, infact he benefited from my absence during d fence work n guess he was not happy I came back to d project.. Not until after a week or so b4 d list of mats needed was passed to fash. I sent several mgs to fash dt I av given d plumber d money he sent, honestly I dint want to mix up d cash in my hands, sincd he sent 30k fir d plumber, I simply sent it to d plumbers acct, and dt d materials shld b purchased on-time ooo.. I will leave d history..
Pls Hw has my workers charged me fash n Yinka high..for Mr Fash's project :
For a 4unit duplexes, d plumber charged 300k.. All rooms r ensuite. 16toilets and 4kitchen.. 2water tanks n all external works.
My electrician charge 230k for four unit attached duplexes... Pls Mr spyder is dt high.. I had to plead wit my team to take ds amount dt fash was my brother.
I av worked for d finance manager of floor mills of Nigeria tru ds platform. She can attest dt I am not in any way rude.. She doesn't know me b4, she's igbo n I am Yoruba yet we finished her work no quarrel.. We still exchanged new year mgs's. I av worked for some other pple on Nairaland, who r not in any way trying to cheat u for telling dem d truth Abt construction. It won't b right to mention dia names here..
I av chatted wit Haji M. Which I even told Mr Fash, I am sure Haji M would nt say I was rude or dint ans d questions he asked me..
I am tempted to talk Abt Mr fash's personality bt I won't.
His cousin n his friends r happy n benefiting from d fact dt I am not on d site. Fash has sent over 15M tru me n we dint av issues of I bought an item twice or I chop or dasuki his money.. There r so many things I am not at liberty to say because it will b wrong, even though Mr fash has decided to Spoil my name..
My Joy is dt, it is not a case of Elfad chop my money or.. I gave him money to buy A n he chop it or dt Elfad is incompetent...
If telling u d blunt truth is rudeness, no problem. If we can't respect each other because we know each other in Ch or because of age.. No problem.. Respect is Reciprocal de say..

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Properties / Re: Making Of Four Unit Attached Duplexes And A 3bedroom Pent Floor At Lekki Phase 1 by elfadconcept04(m): 11:45pm On Feb 10, 2016
45cubic meter concrete cast using Ready mixed concrete. Cast done in 2hours as against using d entire day if u cast manually

Properties / Re: Making Of Four Unit Attached Duplexes And A 3bedroom Pent Floor At Lekki Phase 1 by elfadconcept04(m): 11:37pm On Feb 10, 2016
Additional construction work. Deroof first floor roof and replace by Decking..

Properties / Re: Making Of Four Unit Attached Duplexes And A 3bedroom Pent Floor At Lekki Phase 1 by elfadconcept04(m): 11:31pm On Feb 10, 2016
I used oguruguru. It's anti termite. Due to d odour.
befto:
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Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 11:26pm On Feb 10, 2016
Hello folks, I like to mention here dt as at 2day Feb 10th 2016, I no longer work for Mr Fash.
This is due to some differences and divergent view on site communication, Clients role / contractors role/responsibility n dignity of labor..
Nevertheless I wish him Well and who ever he engages to complete his project.
For as many who have viewed my work, those who av contacted me, those I av designed for or done some civil jobs for, u can attest dt, my craftmanship, experience, supervision skil and ability to reduce construction cost is not in question.
For as many who r on Nairaland to seek quality n qualified artisans n professionals, u will find..
Dont b blinded by cheap at all cost syndrome Bt be mindfull of d quality n prices u c in some pages/treads, u cant confirm d quality vis-a-vis d relatively low cost u c some Engrs / property owners post.
All d suppliers on Nairaland can confirm dt u can never cheat a supplier/some artisans, de will give u d quality dts commensurate with d price u r willing to pay. They say cheap is never quality bt dt those not mean u shld b naive..
On a final note. Conflict is a normal thing in every construction site, de can b resolved Depending on d maturity of d parties n Wat provisions d contract stipulates, provided, Deris a contract.
Nevertheless It was Mr fash's idea to open ds tread to showcase my work, I did foot drag bt he went ahead to open ds tread. Which I appreciate, I might not contribute on ds page/ tread anymore bt like I av mentioned earlier, i wish Mr Fash well..
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 10:35pm On Jan 06, 2016
Yes it is #4,000 per meter.
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Dominionng:


I believe he meant N4,000/meter
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 4:43pm On Dec 20, 2015
I will do the precast parapet for #4000 labor charge, provided your it's on the first floor and #5000 for second floor. Material requirement is quite cheap. A few bags of cement, sharp sand, binding wire and quarter rod. going by experience, I av not used more Dan 30/40 bags of cement, No mata Hw big d size of ur building.. Nevertheless I need to c d building to prefer d right qualities.
The 2nd question u asked. It is precast parapet. It is cheaper than to cast ur parapet insitu. U save the following :
1. granite,
2. 12/10mm iron rod,
3. Plywood,
4. u don't av to plaster it wen plastering ur external wall.
5. U won't need to pay labor fee for ironbender, carpenter for formwork of d parapet although they we still av to work on d roof beam. The precast parapet is anchored to d room beam. Room beam is straight forward hence d charge is low compared to carpenter n ironbender doing both d beam n d parapet.
6. Structurally, u av reduce excess load dt us usually not factored during design from d building.
I just finished parapet work for one of those following this tread at okota. Kindly call 07082866677 /08037217936 # Elfadconcept
nameoh:
fash 78/elfadoconcept04

pls how much did it cost u to do that roof parapet(both labour and material.also is it pre cast or otherwise.

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Properties / Re: Current Prices Of Building Materials In Nigeria by elfadconcept04(m): 10:31pm On Nov 21, 2015
befto:
hello house. How much does the labour cost for AC piping work? materials supplied.

Labor cost for piping is 3k and 3k for installation per AC for a professional AC installer
But u can negotiate to 2k or 2.5k for piping if the quantity of AC is large, if the ACs are on d flangs of the building and not necessarily in d middle of d house. If d artisan is desperate to work, he can also take 2k.
Properties / Re: Current Prices Of Building Materials In Nigeria by elfadconcept04(m): 2:13pm On Nov 19, 2015
befto:


How much do you charge for Labour for AC piping work? Materials supplied by me?

I went to your site at IBA last week.
Very nice

Madam befto, u went go my site and u dint call mi. Deris God o..
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 10:49pm On Nov 16, 2015
For those who want to see the doors, here you have them. Walnut turkey doors for the main entrance and the terrace for the main duplexes facing the road. China doors for rooms n toilets.
Trust dt Mr fash will publish d prices asap as usual. Ac, electrical, mechanical piping on going along side plastering n installation of doors.

Properties / Re: Making Of 4unit Block Of Flats At Magboro,2unit2beds &2unit3beds by elfadconcept04(m): 10:29pm On Nov 05, 2015
Option two. Which of the finishing do u prefer?

Properties / Making Of 4unit Block Of Flats At Magboro,2unit2beds &2unit3beds by elfadconcept04(m): 10:22pm On Nov 05, 2015
Architectural drawings & Structural drawings completed... 3D for ur viewing pleasure.. Watch our for construction proper.

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Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 12:26pm On Oct 20, 2015
Hello house.. Just to share a job I am doing for one of you who has stumbled on this tread/ project for my friend, brother n Oga mr fash
Once again, we r available to help u save cost n ensure safety in building ur dream house based on ur brief, preferences n our professional guide.
The client wants 8 flats compromising of 2nos 3bedrooms and 6nos 2bedroom all ensuite '' all on one plot''
Feel free to call us at Elfadconcept
07082866677; 08037217936

Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 12:18pm On Oct 20, 2015
brag3:
what is her name?
Mama Emma.
just tell her from Engr dele
Properties / Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by elfadconcept04(m): 12:16am On Oct 16, 2015
It is not cheap at all.. Bt its actually beautiful n durable.. Its comes in different moulds.. Some stamps look like interlock, a particular design is called European fan..
If ur project is not in a high society or classy zone such as Lekki, its not necessary.. It's beautiful bt more of a show off.. D price is btw 6&7k per Sqm.


3strike:
Anyone heard of concrete floor with stamping to look like interlocking?


So I was talking to couple of people about the different option of floor I can do for my compound instead of doing the interlocking stone. Someone mentioned concrete floor with stamping. he did say that its way cheaper than the interlocking stone and that the stamping will give it the interlocking look.


Can someone please advice.
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 2:58pm On Oct 10, 2015
brag3:
@elfadconcept04
It is located about 10 mins away from LASU first gate
Kindly call D's woman. She lives close to Lasu. Ibadore. Shes a gud agent n knows loads of pple hence can handle ur property.. 08131656547
brag3:
@elfadconcept04
It is located about 10 mins away from LASU first gate
brag3:


Hello Fash.
good job here..keep it up my brother.
pls can you supply me the details of the agent so I can tell her to look at my property for tenants?
just want to have a rough idea of rental income so I can guage what to spend on finishing.
Also thinking of adding at 3 bedroom pent above so wana see what I can get for that.

Thanks and God bless. keep up the good work
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 2:33pm On Oct 02, 2015
Where exactly in iyano Oba is ur project??
quote author=brag3 post=38317268]

@elfadconcept04 and @fash78. Good job here. done very well.

How much is the rental income in Iyana-oba for 2 bedroom Flat (both en-suite)?
Do you have a good estate management team that you can recommend?

Keep up the good work[/quote]
Properties / Re: The Making Of 4-units Duplex In Iyana-Iba Lagos by elfadconcept04(m): 2:31pm On Oct 02, 2015
Tank u Oga spyder... I hail. Appreciate ur kind comment n observation.. We can do construction together.. I am open to working with professional colleagues too.

spyder880:
Very good work here elfadconcept, and congratulations to the owner, I especially love the raft foundation process, very detailed and professionally done. Keep it up.
Properties / Re: Making Of Four Unit Attached Duplexes And A 3bedroom Pent Floor At Lekki Phase 1 by elfadconcept04(m): 5:40pm On Sep 27, 2015
we used aluminium for the roofing. it is concealed hence no need to use stone coated step tile.
for parapet i do precast. it is cheaper than to cast insitu. if u cast insitu, u will use 1, granite, 2, iron rod, 3, wood and plywood while all u need for precast is cement and sand, binding wire and nails..
i will do precast parapet for you at 4000 Naira per meter labor. you only buy the material(cement and a few bags of cement) to save some cost.
contact me so i can help u save some cost..
befto:


Fantastic job. Well done.
Who did you use for your roofing? How much did the paraphet cost?
Did you use step tiles aluminium or stone coated?
What type of wood was used for the roofing?

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