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Kukutente23:
You didn't elect Sunday Dare either but here you are on his thread defending subsidy

Did I at any point suggest Sunday Dare should implement any policy?

Kukutente23:
Another lie

Jonathan removed subsidy on 1st Jan 2012

You see why I said you don't believe in subsidy removal, you only believe in the person doing it which is why you can't own up to any historical wrong but hiding behind lies and deflections
If you can't be honest enough with yourself to accept the mistake of history, how are you sure you're being honest with yourself right now that you claim you believe in subsidy removal

He chickened out, so he didn't.

Kukutente23:
If he didn't communicate, how did you then know that SLS and NOI advocated subsidy removal

Did Tinubu communicate anything before removing subsidy? Why didn't you take to the streets

Did you at any time elect SLS or NOI to make decisions for the country? They did what was required of them.

Kukutente23:
If you're the president and the country is shut down on your head with massive protests everywhere on the back of an unpopular decision, will you continue on the path of a major confrontation with the populace or will you look to tune down the polity?

This can only happen when you don't communicate with the people you lead or they have little or no trust in you.
Leading 250 million opinionated people is not a tea party.
Not being honest with the people is the worst thing a leader can do.

Kukutente23:
Jonathan was elected to make the decision
He did make the decision until the country was turned down on its head against him with everything shutdown with both human and economic losses
What do you suppose the leader was expected to do in the face of such confrontation less than a year after the Arab spring

He didn't. Otherwise, we wouldn't have to wait another 9 years to finally get it done.
It was his job to communicate his ideas and state of the economy to the citizens and he failed.

Kukutente23:
I'm not asking you
I ask why we refused as a country refused to listen to them then

Lies can only go so far

I can bet if it were SLS that is president and NOI Vice today removing subsidy, the reaction of that fame political group will be different

Who was supposed to make the decision? Did he, and why not? What exactly was he elected to do?
If I was the president and I have someone in the caliber of Ngozi Iweala telling me the country was heading in the wrong direction, I would rather listen to her than people who are not privileged to know.
How is this about lies rather than weakness in leadership?

Kukutente23:
Elected people listened to them and removed the subsidy
It was a critical political group that influenced the rest of the country against the elected leaders

Again I ask, why did we the rest of the country refuse to listen to them then?

I did,

Kukutente23:
Why didn't we listen to them then

What do you mean "we"? Were you in any position to determine whether it was removed or not.
We have elected people entrusted to do that.

Kukutente23:
You're right!
We should have listened to SLS and NOI in 2012
Why didn't we listen to them then

Their arguments were as solid then as it is today. This is why you need courageous leaders who will follow the facts rather than being swayed by folks who are not in a position to know better.

The real voters are not online. If you go by the chatter online you will cry on election day.

Akpaamunsi:
I believe you understand how to use chatgpt? You should have all the information you need from there. Even a nursery school kid understands the meaning of the word: "production targeted subsidy". Please what school did U attend and who raised you?

There is an orchestrated propaganda campaign by you and your people to continuously defame Atiku and cover up the failures of your kinsman Tinubu using the Lagos-Ibadan Expressway media. So I will not waste my time educating a Yoruba man who is hellbent on voting based on tribalism. Tinubu will only win south west, he is unsellable anywhere else

Timubu MUST GO.

Are you chatgpt? I am sure you are not. What I asked is straightforward. You don't need Ai to explain it.
Tell us Atiku's plan and I will explain to you without chatgpt why it is a ruse.

WizardOfNG:
You guys make me laugh. Do you know how Singapore developed?

A benevolent dictator called Lee Kuan Yew was in charge for 30 years and, painful as reforms were, Singaporeans were not allowed to derail it.

Who is laughing today if not them with one of the strongest passport in the world, one of the most developed nations that Britons, their former colonial masters, are moving to for better lives. Constantly voted inside the top five best nation to live in globally as well.

How did they achieve it? Simple they had no adversarial ethnic blackmail, as we see at work with Nigeria, because Singapore has one indigene ethnic group. The Malays. They could therefore pull in the same direction and even sacrifice together for the greater good. As would be the case if, for example Yorubas had regional autonomy and did not have to answer to Nigeria .

What we have today is self-destructive as it allows you guys who do not like Nigeria and your fellow Nigerians, and are only currently pretending to seek good governance, are being destructive because all you want is for Tinubu to fail and take perverse joy in Yorubas being thwarted.

Empirical truth is that fuel subsidy was killing Nigeria and we must never go back to it..

Whereas the like of Atiku who is only desperate to be President is courting garbage that will take us back into the dark ages.

See below to note the guaranteed "direct answer" outcome of returning to fuel subsidy every national economic expert will confirm after it almost bankrupted us.

No chance of ever attaining Singapore-like development that took decades while we are three years and five months into badly crucial reforms we want to abandon yo return to the weaponised poverty of fuel subsidy that was eternal damnation to underdevelopment and economic stagnation.

Yorubas know where they wish to head and we know you people and some from the North are backwards enemies of progress.

You won't stop us. With or without the Presidency, we know what we want and will get it because we have evolved beyond you, are genuinely progressive and seeking to live in a geographical space that can be as developed as any other in the world. It will happen. Only a question of time . Mark it down.

There is no one with knowledge of economics, whether expert or layman, who would wish fuel Subsidy return upon Nigeria that desperate Atiku is touting except you vindictive "anyone but Yoruba President" lot who have traditionally always hated Nigeria and wished her the worst because you are not allowed to control our nation and dominate others.

God bless you jare. These folks want the best of everything but not a single one is willing to work for it.
If Tinubu wants to be wicked he will flood the country with cheap imported food, borrow more money to subsidize fuel.
They will be happy and hail him as the best president in the whole universe. But once again in the near future their children will one day have to confront the reality that it was all a lie.

Akpaamunsi:
I am sure you are a Yoruba man
Now let me school you. There is a big difference between production targeted subsidy and importation based subsidy. Atiku is promising production targeted subsidy.
Stop this peddling of false propaganda by you and your people. Tinubu must GO

Can you explain Atiku's production targeted subsidy before I explain to you why it is a farce?

BigkokoRep:
The heroin trafficker!

How is this different from what you did the last time. You are running another losing campaign.

Do not interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. Tinubu will remain our president for sure.

victorazyvictor:
Your education is a waste...

No worry "water no get enemy, water no get enemy" go jump inside ocean and see.

You are clearly the illiterate.

Gbadebo outside Chinedu inside. He doesn't think in Yoruba. He said it himself.

VOsimhen144:
I will be campaigning harder for Peter Obi until the end of the 2027 elections. He might win, they might not let him win, but I just want to clear my conscience that I stood for what's right, that I did the right thing, even if he doesn't win.

You should do same. Stand for what's right. God bless Nigeria.

Saying he will bring back subsidy is a clear indication that he doesn't know anything.
There's is no magic about it. Does he know better than Ngozi Iweala who had the unenviable task of dealing with the subsidy fraud first hand?
This is a huge problem for a country that will listen to the likes of Rufai (who should be managing chickens and goats) and not Sanusi Lamido or Ngozi Iweala.

2special:
I support the action of the driver, other slowpoke will learn from that and if they refuse, they will learn in a hard way.

So, if the person on the road is mentally ill you will run over her anyway?
And if someone calls you a fanatic you will say no, you are not.

Hueyreckless0007:
Alot of people prefer prosperity after 3 years of DISASTER? TF is wrong with people like you?

If Tinubu hadn't intervened you would have seen real disaster. The type where people would rather take take garri from you than money. Nigeria was already there. Folks like you wouldn't know because everything is all about food to you.

Hueyreckless0007:
Hahahahaha

Well, i was generalizing for the people who want the progress of this country. And I believe quite a number of sensible people would agree with me.

Its not for people like “you” So why don’t you run along and eat you agbado.

Nobody forced you to declare that you don't want prosperity. You said it yourself.

Hueyreckless0007:
Nobody needs your prosperity. Pack your luggage

You can only speak for yourself, quite a lot of people prefer prosperity.

Ford Foundation will probably not give him any more money if he gets elected. He knows he can never win the presidency.

The more you look, the less you see.

Nigerians are with the president. Naysayers are never nation builders.

Those who are blaming Tinubu for the rise in oil prices are either mischievous or dumb.
Russia and Ukraine war was already putting a lot of pressure on oil supply before Trump again attacked Iran.

Next is Gbarebo. He is free to think in whatever language he likes but Yoruba he must speak.

divine010:
The politicians you worship do they not drive against traffic,. ..

Do you not notice people dont go to jail for driving offence instead they just pay Fine nd case close

Have you seen anyone discredited to contest on basis of driving offence

You wanted to clap back by all means buh the IQ no dey. eeyha !

People don't go to jail for driving offenses? In which country is it legal to drive against the traffic?
This can only happen when your pundit on finance and civic duties is a feral zoologist.

divine010:
Je stidied animal husbandry buh today people you worship that don't even know you exist ...knows Rufai oseni, they follow is comment

weyrey subsidy last payment was 4trillion under Buhari they say we cant afford subsidy buh Nnpc spemt 11.2m on pipeline security and declare a profit if 7.2m

who is cursed here, All the money Tinubu as spent into sharing palliative, Rice and conditional cash transfer with any impact ..who is really wasting here

I'm not known but I don't drive my car against traffic. A person's intelligence, common sense, or character is judged best by their actions and choices not by whether you are on TV or not.
No wonder people like this would vote against their own interests.

Naustine:
After speaking grammar, I'll want you to post the dictionary or Google meaning of subsidy here let's see... It's not about trying to be clever by speaking unnecessary grammar..

It's not called trying to be clever, it is called using your brain.
Don't be led by the nose like a sheep.

If subsidy was not removed by now Tinubu would have spent at least $36 billion on that nonsense.
When he took over we had around $3 billion dollars only in foreign reserves no lender was willing to lend us money. Our oil already sold upfront!
We should all be grateful for the courage of Tinubu to stop the madness.
As for people who are asking for it to be returned a part of me secretly want them to succeed so they can experience real hunger and poverty.
But I also know it's all a scam, if they win they will find every reason in the world not to return it.