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Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 5:49pm On Nov 24, 2014
Kay17:
You are missing the point. The necessity of God creating everything has been removed. The term 'something' refers to all existent entities. If we can justify the existence of just one entity, all entities are justified.

I know you have it somewhere in your mind, a desperate need to justify God's existence, but it cannot be justified with my argument.
You are making a mistake here. Like I said, no matter how you look at an atom as one, there are still a lot of sub atomic elements e.g the bible mentioned the 7 Spirts of God, trinity, e.t.c. The writers of bible made God look monolytic so as to prevent His exploitation by pagans. E.g. God said, let US make man in.....
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 9:42am On Nov 24, 2014
plaetton:
So you agree that faith is irrational?
Plaetton, let's imagine someone comes to you at a bar, where you are drinking wine and tells you that your house is burning, as a rational person, what will you do?
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 9:47pm On Nov 23, 2014
Kay17:
Thankfully an admission! I think that settles it
Something can be anything and everything. They are all mutually inclusive. If I say that there is something in my room, it could be anything and everything in my room.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 9:05pm On Nov 23, 2014
Weah96:
Ask him again.
We are the image of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 8:47pm On Nov 23, 2014
Weah96:
Google "hair physiology" and you'll learn how hair follicles are made, sustained, and destroyed.

Here is everything you need to know about grasses, including how each single blade manages to spring out of the soil.
http://home.howstuffworks.com/grass1.htm

If that is insufficient, then purchase any old textbook on botany. They're really cheap, less than ten bucks. Many of them cost 99 cents.

You have yet to produce an argument why I should believe that a dead Jew rose from the dead two thousand years ago and still goes around talking to Nigerian pastors today.

How is that even a remote possibility? Is that a common occurrence around your area?
Faith
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 7:39pm On Nov 23, 2014
plaetton:
My questions, dear friend, highlights the fundamental differences our world views.

I am for continued scrutiny of existence, questioning every assumption, assembling bits of knowledge here and there, ever trying to get a clearer picture.
You and others, on the hand, have already concluded that it's all figured out, case closed.
As such, you feel discomfort when people like me challenge your absolute facts.
Sir Arthur Keith summarizes the evolution doctrine as follows: “Evolution is unproven and unprovable. We believe it, however, because the only alternative is an act of creation by a God, and that is unthinkable.” IS THIS ACTUALLY WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN? #ifeness #kay17
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 7:37pm On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
Were you an eye witness? If you wanna proof the existence of your god,give us a primary account, not them say them say.
Did you witness evolution and big bang?
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 7:31pm On Nov 23, 2014
TheFury:
Many thinkers, artists, writers, musicians, politicians, warriors etc have advanced diverse theories about the non existence of God for whatever reason they came up with.

To all the "smart-free born-enlightened-scientific-identity ripped out" fellows who believe powerfully and are absolutely convinced that there is nothing called God....only a "vindictive-bias-unintelligent-vagina loving deity", please I beg you to hold on firmly to your beliefs. Some of you think you have discovered the secrete to your existence and universe cos you can reproduce elaborate theories advanced by individuals who couldn't even explain how a grass grows everyday.

If you cannot see anything when you wake up from your bed everyday that tells you something about the nature of God then congratulations! You cannot even explain how a single strand of hair on your head can be created yet you are So confident, so sure, so absolute that there is no God, there is no beginning and end in time. Many intelligent people have taken your very "sound and reasonable" road, trust me you ain't the first neither will you be the last to doubt the existence of God. Keep the fire burning, "do what thou will".......its all a hoax...there is no God.
Big bang, which Ifeness holds as the source of his existence is just an intellectual combination of facts and fiction.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 7:25pm On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
Maybe because you are a fool. Are we supposed to believe anything without a reliable source?
I know how it feels quiting your faith, but when one's faith has failed valid scrutiny, be like a man, cave in.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 4:34pm On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
Lmao best reply so far! A god that made it clear he only loves Israel.
Istrael got the love of God because of her founding fathers. They also were beaten when they followed evil imagination e.g. The Roman siege which happened after the death of Amen and the Holocaust, both forseen. Through Jesus, both we and Jews are now one, no male, no female, one in the eyes of the most High.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 4:26pm On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
And that we have a detailed account of where he was buried right?
The disciples were accused of stealing Jesus' body. They were all persecuted and killed, safe for John. Could they have laid up their lives if it were fake. The book of Revelations was written when christianr were killed and persecuted in order to give them hope. Even Paul was once a persecutor, who met with Jesus and later ended up with fatal death and hopefully he is in Heaven with Amen. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 3:51pm On Nov 23, 2014
cold:
Lol..just seeing this. You give me too much credit. Seriously though, this kind of argument is tiring and leaves me mentally spent. All i say now is your god exists right? Fine,go fetch him let me have a one on one with him. I'm tired of debating with his minions and footsoldiers. I want to speak to the man in charge. Surely,if such an all powerful,almighty creator exists this simple request of mine shouldn't be to hard to fulfil. So far no theist has been successful in this quest. Until then your god is only a figment of your imagination. Fit only for a storybook written by primitive goat herding,slave owning men & meant for kids and the gullible.
For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were they thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools! Romans 1 vs 20-22 #ifeness #kay17 #plaetton
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 1:06pm On Nov 23, 2014
Kay17 'And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me and live.' Exodus 33:20
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 1:01pm On Nov 23, 2014
[quote author=Kay17 post=28276366][/quote]Like I said, we can through the bible have an idea about God; therefore his true nature can't be known.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:57pm On Nov 23, 2014
#ifeness 'won't be skeptical'
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:38pm On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
Looks like the OP has already abandoned his thread or he is on a queue to donate his 10% to Yahweh the Jewish deity.
Which church does your wife attend? huh
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:33pm On Nov 23, 2014
Kay17:
Now which is it? Is God known or Unknown, because He cannot be both.



Nobody said we came from Nothing, nobody said the Universe is from Nothing. These were red herring positions you fathomed us make. We (especially from myself) don't have the contention that the Universe came from Nothing. What I concern myself with is the very important question of 'why there is something rather than nothing.' That is a genuine and enduring question which even religions struggle to solve. We all could easily not exist, and there should be a reason why or a reason why there must be a reason.



Yes, the Big Bang is said to be a result of some phenomenon. But at the point prior to the beginning of our Universe, we have to question everything we know and our empirical parameters. All our assumptions and understanding of causality (cause - effect relationship) has been under scrutiny in quantum physics, our understanding of time, of space almost absolutely lose meaning. Whether the Big Bang is an effect is also in question.

But for simple minded folks like Emmalot121, our basic assumptions are irrefutable. He does not know causality is an assumption we make and he can't afford to shake it out of his mind hence he creates the human - God!
Where in my post did I say that nothing is known about God. As I said, it is either life came from nothing or something. For life to come out of nothing, it means nothing itself is something. For nothing to be nothing it has to be dormant. You are just twisting the same questions, all your questions have already being answered.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:26pm On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
Just say you do not know! I do not believe Jesus existed either. My question remains unanswered.
The same way people won't skeptical about your existence 2000 years ago, even if you saved a whole nation. The fact is that the science then was not as developed as what we have now, but the case of Jesus couldn't have been fabricated because every tom d+ick and harry witnessed him. Is it possible to lie to a whole nation that Jesus lived amongst them. Think my brother, think.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 11:21am On Nov 23, 2014
@kay17 @ifeness If we came from nothing, then we all should be traceable to nothing. But it isn't, cos we are all traceable to something, the atom. So also can live not be traced to nothing, but something, God.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 11:12am On Nov 23, 2014
shachris03:
Like he said, for there is nothing like something from nothing. Big Bang tells us that the universe originated from some elements, how did does elements come about? Something must have brought about those elements, don't you think?

Think of God as the origin....like God just popped out and everything as we know them started pumping out from God....before God, there was nothing (as we know nothing to be)....
What created nothing? For nothing to be able to create, it is no longer nothing but something.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 11:09am On Nov 23, 2014
Where is cold and xcapisthuh
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 10:43am On Nov 23, 2014
Kay17:
The most interesting part Emmalo121 has talked about is the unknown true nature of God. He has said, God is unknown to us therefore it is not within our grasp to say who God is. But I wonder why he keeps saying God is the beginning of time when he does not truly know God!

Most of these threads are resolved by the OPs themselves.
It would have been so, were not for the bible that gave us the hint about him. Even with this, there are still much to know and I can't delve into explaining the unknown.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 10:38am On Nov 23, 2014
johnydon22:
do you hear yourself?? you are contradicting yourself. . . ok time didnt exist before yet god is time which means god didnt exist before... god has no beginning because he is the beginning? beginning of what exactly, himselfhuh
I've answered the question before. Saying that the world began from nothing is out of the argument. Like I said God is time itself, he is the beginning, the same way atom is the beginning of yam. In the creation of this world, before time didn't exist, becase before time itself is time. Like I said, God is the beginning of everything. He has no source, because he is the source itself. He didn't create himself, but is self existent. Like the atom, there are the proton, neutron and electron, which makes up the atom (just like the trinity makes up the Godliness.)
Therefore, no matter how whole you look at atom, there are distinct elements in it, which functions as a whole. This is the mystery of God.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 9:02am On Nov 23, 2014
johnydon22:
before timehuh... even that period that is so called before time is still a time... sohuh
I disagree that before time existed, because God is time itself. He has no beginning because He is the beginning, he is infinity and he has no end.
FamilyRe: To My Future Wife by Emmalot121(m): 8:55am On Nov 23, 2014
eleojo23:
Some guy on this thread thinks it's unlike a 'black man' to write something like this. He thinks it shows weakness. Well, that's his philosophy and a warped one at that. I intentionally wrote this to 'upset' people like him. A real man is not afraid of showing and expressing his feelings.

Someone ( Yangki Christine) wrote this somewhere and I wish to repeat them here. Every person is born with qualities of the opposite energy (masculine AND feminine) within him or her— and not simply in the biological sense, but also in the psychosexual sense of attitudes, feelings, dreams and desires.
Men because of their biological make up express more of the masculine energy and women because of their biological make up express more of their feminine energies.

If a man or woman is well adjusted and harmoniously balanced, the feminine traits and the masculine traits are both expressed. To say one is a “real” man or woman would be to say one is a “real” human being with a good balance of both masculine and feminine energies.

When a man has his masculine energy well developed he can afford to express his feminine energy without fear, timidity or feeling a threat to his masculinity — which is already strong and developed.

When a man’s masculinity is not well developed and strong, he’ll tend to suppress his feminine side (i.e. being sensitive, nurturing etc) because he is already insecure about his masculinity. He’ll tend to express a more “macho” image to try to cover up his insecurity about his masculinity.
I disagree with you, having a little mix of feminine attribute is better than 50:50. There are little benefits attatched to feminine attributes, in fact, like Jesus said, it is better to have children's attribute. Being emotional only makes you less logical.
Pastors nowadays try to preach emotionally, but Jesus said women of Samaria shouldn't cry over him. We saw Elijah, Elisha, they were manly and not emotional, they only show this when its needed or symbolic e.g. When Jesus wept. Being emotional has to do a lot with weakness, which I think isn't desireable. sad
FamilyRe: To My Future Wife by Emmalot121(m): 8:42am On Nov 23, 2014
edozie04:
Dy dere dy write letter while another guy is shining her congo
lwkmd! cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 8:30am On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
That is wrong. I think the Bible was referring to a particular deity. It was even given a name called Yahweh,am i wrong? This particular deity described by the Bible had a peculiar characteristic which includes being vicious,control freak,jealous and always angry. Yahweh could also be referred to as an extraterrestrial. How could you describe that as an infinite being?

Tell me one good attribute of your God?
I can vividly remember that I have answered this same question before, but I will answer you again. When you are far from me, you can call me ugly, you only know if I'm truely ugly if I move nearer to you, if you move nearer to me or if we move nearer to one another. Try as much as possible to use the actions of Jesus, because its the closest we've got. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 8:04am On Nov 23, 2014
plaetton:
So is god just an event or a being that is conscious and alive.
If god is conscious and live being, then god a beginning, a time that he did not exist.

Of course, I don't expect that cognitive dissonance would allow you deal with the above.
Did you read my argument at all? Life could have emanated from something or nothing, both can't exist at same time, so one started the universe, and I proved its something which I enumerated his characteristics. If God has a creator, then his creator becomes God. God is a mystery which your little head can't comprehend.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 7:55am On Nov 23, 2014
Weah96:
And he's called the groom who wants to marry the virgin bride.

The infatuation with the female reproductive organ is mind boggling. Yahweh considers the condition of the v)agina to be very important.
Funny! I'm sure this was intended to be pun. As old as you are, you can't interpret a parable. I would have loved to think that way but even Muhammad made the same mistake when he was lifting from the bible.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:22am On Nov 23, 2014
ifeness:
He cannot be used for someone without gender,that is a wrong way to put it. When a baby is born,you use "It" until you are sure of it's gender. Therefore,when you use "He" for you God,you are trying to say your God has muscle-line qualities.

When you describe your God,you have personified and quantified it. Then your God becomes finite and not infinite.
"He is used to represent him in Bible because it is in this view of him that we can have a clue of him. We are image of him and not otherwise." I've assisted you in quoting the answer.
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:17am On Nov 23, 2014
Christianity EtcRe: Absolute Proof Of God's Existence by Emmalot121(op): 12:15am On Nov 23, 2014
They keep visiting and going! They have 'nothing' to say wink

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