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Gayjesus:
Has NASA found hell fire and heaven ?

Is it possible for you to maintain a line of discourse? Go away, when you can codinate your thoughts, you can come back.

This thread is not for kids okay?

terrezo2002:
Life only makes a meaning to the living.
If you were nothing before you were created to be a living soul, then life can only be defined from the perspective of the creator.
If there was no creator, life will not have meaning to the creatures.
If God is the beginning of life, then the best definition of life is God.
God said I am the God of the living.
So the simplest definition of life is God.

Godbless you Sir

budaatum:
"Meaning" and "purpose" hardly ever mean the same thing. Try it with "combustion engine", see what you come up with

Sir, meaning can well be purpose. As a matter of fact, another word for purpose can be meaning. Meaning and purpose can be used interchangeably.
These words are the synonyms of Purpose, intention, import, meaning, reason, significance, content, and even sense. So, YES, Meaning and purpose are the same.

budaatum:
That said, "Purpose of life"? None really

Now, let me put down my Bible and face life from your point of view. Really? There's no purpose to Life?

Why then are you living? Why haven't you killed yourself and get it done with? Why do you eat when you are hungry? Why do you sleep when you get overworked and fatigued? Why do you medicate yourself when your body breaks down?

Why are sciencetist killing fellow humans in Laboratories using them as Lab Rats for experiments?

Why is there Center for Disease Control? Why won't they allow us to just die off.

Why fight to preserve humanity? Why protect the earth?

Why are scientists trying by all means to find a cure to Cancer and other terminal diseases?

Why do you strive to become someone in life? You go to school, try to come out wirh good grades to get a better job. You want to start a business and achieve a level of comfort. You marry and want children, when you don't have, you see the doctors, you do fertility this and that. Why?

Why do you strive to build homes and live a good life?

WHY ALL THESE IF THERE'S NO PURPOSE TO LIFE?

REALLYYYYYY. PLSSSSSSSSSS.

budaatum:
Most living things, humans specifically, just occupy space and consume resources to remain alive. In effect, one could say the sole purpose of life is to live.

The question will still be WHY?

budaatum:
If humans weren't in existence, the planet would most likely go on much better than with them in it. Even birds and goats probably serve a better purpose, birds by spreading seeds and goats by mowing the grass. Trees however help maintain a balance between CO2 and Oxygen

I will really appreciate if you'd sincerely answer my WHY questions.

budaatum:
There is one important difference between human beings and trees and birds. Birds and trees don't choose a purpose while human beings can. Some humans choose to make the world less bad than if they did nothing, whilst some choose to make the world much worse than it would have been if they actually ate, slept and eventually just died.

But, i thought you said there was no purpose? What then are they choosing from?

Guy, i think you just tied yourself in robes with this your assertion. You codedly just said, to those who have a purpose, they try to make the world leas bad, but those who feel there's no purpose to life, seek to desrroy it because they believe they are here to eat, sleep and just die.

Take a peek at the Chinese Government and some atheists regimes that had come and gone and you'd see these tensencies.

budaatum:
Regardless, all living things contribute towards the making of manure, in the end, whether they choose it as a purpose or not. Whether that manure makes up for what they consume is debatable though.

If humans are here primarily to fertilize the soil with manure, why then don't we allow our sick children die and contribute manure for us? Why medicate them?

tintingz:
That was my question, why did God create humans? Any reason?

The question 'WHY DID GOD CREATE MAN' or, 'WHAT IS MAN'S purpose ON Earth?'.

Let's see what the creator who created man says.

WHY DID GOD CREATE MAN?=== FOR FELLOWSHIP, FOR RELATIONSHIP. And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.
Genesis:2:19

And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.
Genesis:3:8

God created man to have a family of a different specie to do things together with. He created man to have a different kind of interaction, from the one he has with Angels.

Something like this,

YHWH== 'Adam, i will create, you will name".

Adam== Yes, Lord.

YHWH comes in the cool of the day for a visit.

Adam: Lord, this is a beautiful garden, so many fruits. I get confused from choosing which one to eat sometimes

YHWH: Oh, that should not be a problem, you can all of them except that one over there, it is poisoned, and poison kills.

Adam: Okay Lord.

YHWH: What did you call that creature over there?

Adam:, Oh, Lion, i called it Lion.

YHWH: That's great work you are doing here.

Did you See fellowship?

PURPOSE= MANDATE ==Genesis 1:26.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

The operative word in that verse is LET. This means allow them, do not interfere with, give them room, right, space, opportunity, power, and absolute authority to rule, dominate, the earth.

The Earth was created for man just like man was created for the earth. Man was put in a garden fully stock with what he needed for sustanance, that's why every human baby is born without the innate ability to care for itself until after a time on earth.

Every thing visible and invisible was already created and functional before man drew his first earth's breath.

God saw this day when men will begin to think they can help and add to Him, or without them He(God) can not function, hence, He made man last.

You can say to me, But, God needs man to fellowship with Him, without which God will be lonely. Man is very important to God.

The question then will be, how was God coping before He created man? And how did He cope after Man declared independence and left?

How is God coping now since very few persons actually fellowships with Him? There are so many so-called Christians or believers actually don't fellowships with Him, has it changed Him in anyway?

Who actually benefits from that time together, Man or God?/


GOD HAS NO NEED FOR MAN, BUT MAN HAS EVERY NEED FOR GOD.

Without his Complacent love, the rain won't fall on you, His sun won't shine on you. You'll plant crops they wont yield any fruits. You'll have sex and not have kids.

Be grateful to God that even when you reject and insults Him everyday, he still loves you. But that love expires the day you draw your ladt breath.

OkCornel:
Question of the Day:

Between the book of Enoch and the Epic of Gilgamesh...

Which one was written first?

Epic of Gilgamesh was written first before the Bible.

BUT,

WAS THE UNIVERSE CREATED WHEN THE BIBLE WAS WRITTEN, shd be the question of the day.

OkCornel:
Please check my comments on this thread...I never mocked ifenes...

Anyone is free to choose whatever he/she wants to believe in... that's why we all have the precious gift of choice...

I categorically told ifenes that I am not going to ridicule him for believing the Annunaki tales despite having no evidence from NASA or any other reputable astronomer on the sighting of planet Nibiru...even with all the telescopes invented so far

I have read Zachariah Stitchin's work... and y'all should wake me up when NASA or any other reputable astronomer discovers this planet Nibiru...

Good thing is, NASA's primary purpose is to sight such a planet. They want to prove God wrong by all means. NASA wanrs to explain and validate Aliens by all.means.

They believe if they sight a planet with life, they can use that as an excuse to unleash their demons who are fallen Angels on earth. They want to have a reason to allow demons to take up flesh and live and abide on earth with humans.

Ifenes is one of such persons who can not wait to see Aliens/demons/fallen Angels walking on earth.

OkCornel:
1) You went through my conversations with ifenes, yet you think I didn't make sense at all? Please tell us how?

2) You don't know much about the Annunaki story, but it makes more sense than the Bible abi? Please tell us how?

3) You are right, I have also pondered on this question on how Mary could have a baby without mating...but please examine this DNA test done on the burial cloth of Jesus (by National Geographic channel), then explain to us how it is possible for a man to have 23 (x) Chromosomes traceable to the mother and no chromosomes traceable to an earthly father...then you can connect the dots from there...

The Blood of Christ

Trace the blood stained Shroud of Oviedo to Israel in a quest to determine whether it holds Christ's DNA, and in a most chilling discovery, finds that it contains no evidence of a father's DNA.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/videos/the-blood-of-christ/




GayJesus... examine the persuasive evidence based on the DNA test performed in the link above (a 20-25 minutes documentary) before concluding;


I'll be expecting the usual excuses of anyone who wants to live in denial such as;

(a) Anyone can make a video
(b) It's a waste of precious time
(c) It's a conspiracy theory....

You don pursue that guy like you did ifenes. Pls take it easy on them.

Gayjesus:
At the end of the day the truth did not matter to the Christians.

What is truth? We wld ve known the truth if ifenes had answered the questions i and Okcornel asked him, but he ran off unfollowing the thread.

He said at one point that Anu is YHWH tje creator of the Bible, later he said the Anunnaki visited earth from planet Nibiru or some place. If Anu created the earth, will he be visiting his own earth? If i am said to visit your house because there's something that interests me in your house, can i be said to own your house?

Ifenes' statement clearly suggested that Anu and those other gods were invaders upon earth (Aliens)

OkCornel asked him if the NASA had ever sighted Planet Nibiru, he said NASA (which is primarily antiGod) will hide the fact if they had. He was asked what he thought NASA will gain from hiding their discovery when their primary purpose is to find another planet with life other than earth? He could not answer that.

Gayjesus:
You invited someone to comment on your thread and all you ended up doing is mocking them without understanding the discussion.

I invited ifenes to this thread because he has been in the forefront of proponents of 'Moses copied from the Epic of Gilgamesh', so i needed him to answer the questions put to him here, by that we can conclude one way or the other, but he failed woefully.

Gayjesus:
Do you think the bible was written first, you clearly don’t want to learn from those with knowledge

Do you think you have knowledge? And, do you think or believe that the Universe was created when the Bible was wrtten?. I will really like to have this discussion with you if you'll not run away like ifenes.

Gayjesus:
Google Zachariah Stitchins and learn more about the Anunaki. Maybe you will believe the white man.

I want to believe you have goggled him and believe what he wrote abi? The rule in this thread is, 'No referrals', if you have read a link, you believe you read, post your points here.

So, can you now post what you garnered from Stitchins and also answer the questions put to ifenes by OkCornel?

Do you believe Stitchins because he is white or because what he wrote makes perfect sense?


@OkCornel, pls repost those questions to Gaysatan, only demons can call Jesus gay.

Gayjesus:
Where exactly did he corner him. I have gone through their discussions and I think okcornel didn’t make sense at all. Personally I think the bible borrowed from other books but I don’t know much about the Anunnaki or some sky monsters. But how could anyone accept mary could have a baby without mating ? It looks like you are the one bias here. I will advice you let those who know teach you rather than make fun. Don’t you think a virgin birth sounds funny too ? I still think the god of the bible is flesh and blood and many secret one does not know about the Jewish religion.

Sir, do you want to discuss Mary and her virgin birth? Pls open a thread and mention me, I promise to make out time to open you up to mysteries. Wait, you don't believe mysteries only magic/mystics.

This thread here is to ascertain which Creation account came first, whether the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Genesis account

The reason i opened this thread is, the likes of ifenes are all over this forum juggling thoughts about this without really settling down to tell us how.

Well, you said you don't know much about Enuma Elish, i would have asked you some questions ifenes dodged.

You said you personally believe that the Bible was copied from other sources, like which and which pls?

tintingz:
That was my question, why did God create humans? Any reason?

My ba3 is out now. We shall do this tomorrow.

Good nite.

CuteMadridista:
^^^

"He created us for us"

Yes he did. If not, what do you do for Him? You personally, what have you ever done to add to God? And, if there's one single human being who has done anything to improve God, let me know.

tintingz:
In a nutshell, God has no reason for creating humans?

The question i expected her or you to ask is, Why did God create man?'. Not making it seem like man can help God or God created man to help accomplish something.

Man is very important to God, but God can do absolutely without Man.

He was the last thing God created. Shouldn't that teach you something?

Kay17:
I would rephrase my question what use does God have for man to have use for himself?

I see this as dishonesty. What is 'What use does God have for man to have use for himself? Lolzzz.

Kay, ask yourself this. How many years has it been since you decided there was no God? How has that affected God? Has it taken anything from God? If it has then you shd know you are useful to God, if not shouldn't it tell you God doesn't need you to be God?

How many yrs did you spend on earth while believing there was God? of what use were you to God then?

Let's get personal before going general. Of what use are you to God today?

Do you think God created man to compliment Himself?

Stop being dishonest and ask the right question, you shall get the right answers.

Kay17:
For what use was man created for?

You are still at the point of 'Use'. When you use the word 'Use' you'll still be implying God has use for man.

God has no use for man, for God was complete in Himself before He created man.

Man adds nothing to God. We don't improve him. If we do, He wouldn't create and keep us in a different reealn from Himself.

He created us for us. That's why He gave us everything to be like Him in our own realm. But to navigate our realm, we needed to depend on Him, for created the world and us.

Ask yourself this. Why is the human baby the only creature that is so helpless at birth. Every other animal begins fending for themselves right from birth. Even a snake as seeminly vulnerable as it is, begins looking for food immediately it begins to breath, but a human child gets up to two years to know how to care for it self. Why?

The reason is, God has made it so. We are helpless hence; depend on Him for everything.

The Human baby can only cry out of helplessness to get attention, even adults. It is that helplessness that makes you think 'there's no God, for if there is, this and that shd be in place'.

Mowoe:
For those of us who are Christians we often get to hear people say "every other activity would end here on earth except for Praise and Worship". We've heard many times even in church that when we get to heaven (For those who would make it there anyways), all we would do is offer songs of praise to God endlessly and for all eternity; continuously chanting "hallelujah". There's even a popular song we sing which says "hallelujah is the heavenly language" which further supports this Heaven "all praise" thingy. If that's what heaven is really like, would it not be better off to be on earth? Why should we struggles so much to live holy lives just because we want to "sing hallelujah" for eternity, knowing that eternity is a very long time? Would it not be better to live as you want here on earth and go to hell where you'd probably get used to the heat in no time (On a lighter note though). Many of us hate our jobs so much because we have to do thesame thing every other day and we find it boring so much so that the only reason we're still holding on to those jobs is because of the unemployment situation around us. This brings me to ask the question; if heaven is actually a place where we get to sing songs for eternity, would it not be a boring place to go to?

Very poor you. When that demon inside of you leaves when you die, then your eye go clear. Heaven go dey boring, so good luck in eternal fire. Hahahahahaha. If only you know.

Kay17:
The underlying premise is that God is self sufficient and by that character of self sufficiency man can not add or increase God. Hence man has no purpose to God and God wouldn't bother to create man as a result. God wouldn't need to create anything again for the reason of his self sufficiency.

Lolzzz. No girl. You got it all wrong. I think the question you shd be asking is 'Why did God create man?' He didn't create man because he is lacking something which only man can argument, or is there any other reason or purpose He did? Pls let me know

because, your underlining premise is, 'If God is self sufficient, then He didn't need to create man'. You don't tell Him what or not to do.

For instance, you and your likes, rejects Him all day. You not only reject Him, but proceed to malign Him. He gets nothing from you. Nothing in Him has diminished, (except you'd say it has, then you'd ve to tell me). Yet, His complacent love is still showered on you.

You still freely breath His air, get warmth from His Sun. His rain still fall on you. When you have sex, you'd get pregnant and have a Child. What has He lost by your rejection of Him. It is from this premise you shd ask yourself if God really needs man, and if Yes, what for?

May i never be found careless when my Master returns.

I want to go to heaven.

Kay17:
God, includes every imaginable creator, wouldn't need humans because of his self sufficiency. Invariably humans would not have a purpose as a hammar does.

Yes indeed, God is all sufficient, that's why He doesn't need man, but man can not do without God, for outside of Him, man has no purpose.