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@sheffyUTD
Good move.

Thanks once again to you all, a bit better thou losses not regained. However,I have to quickly prepare few things for my clients and OLIVERJIAD I will like to employ your service, now that you can almost read my 'e-tears' what do think?

@Oliverjiad
thanks for your advice.

@sheffyUTD
what are you agents doing about the thefts at the terminal?

@oliverjiad
but, is there no security measures? How do guys(agents) protects consignments? Have never been so touched as this as my customer has been waiting for d stolen goods for over two months.

oliverjiad: Let m explain something here,customs don't take anything except they request for it from ur while taking delivery of any job out port. Or during examination,the people involve in the situation are first the drivers who drive d vehicles from the ship to d discharge port where it'll be located for examination,secondly the clearing. Agent tooo,this happens when d agent drive d vehicle home before u pick up,or even it might happen immediately vehicle is out of port,but to b sincere customs don't take or manover importerrs good,it the handwork of either drivers or agent,but mostly it's d drivers during night transfer,but I tell u dat there are many good agent who are not after ur goods,like I. Always hate. Embarrassment of such thing from. Customers calling m his or. Hers goods was vanderlised,its always a shame to respond to that,but GOD will help us sir

Babajaid

you are on point,in this last case the operation was carefully carried out but what baffles me is that my brother was called in to witness the vehicle coming out yet l lost close 200k worth of goods. So sad bro

well! give you a try?

Mrcdorv: So sorry to say this but with this kind of situation you should know that's your agent sir..his job to ensure nothing is missing from your shipment.

yeah,thing is they keeps displaying this 'i don't know attitudes.
but 'missing' by who? They(agents) or the freight company officials? I can't just get it

Please, Clearing/ Forwarding Agents, Customs officers and other Nairalanders in the house. 50/60% of valuable items are always missing from my vehicle anytime l shipped to Nigeria, have tried several agents after the death of my main agent(may his gentle soul rest in peace)but same sad stories.This keeps me wondering WHO ARE THE THIEVES AT THE PORT? Am sick and tired of being ripped of my hard-earned money.

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@efficiencie. D fact is,u got none. One of d reasons l dumped christianity. Not scientific proof sir, far from it.

@efficiencie. Pls tell me, what makes your faith the only true religion?

efficiencie: logically and empirically speaking, if the bold portion of your assertion holds, then more than 99% of the world's population must be insane. This is because every philosophical stance concerning religion is a religion in itself and the fact that a person has a religious stance be it pantheism, polytheism, monotheism all connotes a lack of disharmony with all other religious stances and hence conveys a sense the immutability and total corrigibility.

So you see sir, going by logic and empirics, your bold comment implies that all of those that posted comments on this thread, Christians, Muslims, Atheist, Agnostics, Gnostics, Pantheists (like you sir), Polytheists and so called pagans are all INSANE including me sir!

in other word, if your religion claim to be the only faith that has the total right knowledge of what is call god(THE ALL)then is insanity. my 1
cent.


I regard all the theories, guesses and
speculations of the theologians and metaphysicians regarding the inner
nature of THE ALL, as but the childish efforts of mortal minds to grasp
the secret of the Infinite. Such efforts have always failed and will always
fail, from the very nature of the task. One pursuing such inquiries travels
around and around in the labyrinth of thought, until he is lost to all sane
reasoning, action or conduct, and is utterly unfitted for the work of life.
He is like the squirrel which frantically runs around and around the
circling treadmill wheel of his cage, traveling ever and yet reaching
nowhere — at the end a prisoner still, and standing just where he
started. 'THE THREE INITIATES' said it better

@Op. Energy,force,universal laws(by which d earth is govern) spirit,Nature, the unseen etc. What ever you/we might choose to call it, l think for easier references it was named god. It is insanity for any faith or religion to assume the right(monopoly) knowledge of these elements(permit to use d word) mentioned above. The totality of 'THE ALL' is and shall ever remain a mystery to the Living. Do to others what you want them to do unto you, the golden rule. For those who are for/dispute the supernatural, let your experience be your authority. My thought.

Rayhut: Op Almighty God created mankind out of love,so that we will worship and adore him but sin created a barrier which is from satan,God knew that all this will happen and prepared his son,Jesus to come and redeem us from sin,so that as many as those that believe will pass from death to life,suffering and temptation came from the fall of man into sin,the reason why satan have power to cause havok,calamities and confusion on earth nobody knows,you cannot question God ratheryou havto b submissive to your creator

Are you saying d sole purpose of creating mankind is to entertain God,as he was so bored?

albiol: @emotional u are simply not good at using logic

Lanrexlan has answered all ur questions perfectly well with many references from the Qur'an

Mah u be guided to the straight path

i might not be good using logic but i got my senses right.

he answered d questions? I can't find any meaningful answer in his post or quran that he quotes.

straight path? If i may ask,what is d straight path? Islam?

lanrexlan: When does revealed from God becomes the same thing as dropped from the sky? No need wasting my precious time here anymore.

you go no where bro come back here ''holding your shirt's collar'' in 9ja police style

lanrexlan:Yes,Jinns are created from the fire.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Ar-Rahman 55:15 -And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire.Who created the fire?
Allah(swt) of course,for what purpose? Allah says in the glorious Quran in


allah created shaytan,jins and fire and who ever is deceived by same shaytan shall be cast into same fire he allah creates.lol.

lanrexlan: Where did I say Quran fell from the sky? You can't comprehend my posts,waste of my time.

''yes I can't comprehend cos I have to be in d ''spirit'' to comprehend, for your post was also spiritual and revealed by allah. you posted this above:I found this funny,are you interested in the dictionary meaning which was written by men or what the glorious Quran says revealed by God?
so my reply was I never knew quran fell from the sky. meaning,as if quran was not also written by man

lanrexlan: I found this funny,are you interested in the dictionary meaning which was written by men or what the glorious Quran says revealed by God?

Yes,Jinns are created from the fire.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Ar-Rahman 55:15 -And the jinns did He create from a smokeless flame of fire.Who created the fire?
Allah(swt) of course,for what purpose? Allah says in the glorious Quran in


Surah Al-Waqiah 56:71-73 -Tell Me! The fire which you kindle,Is it you who made the tree thereof to grow,or are We the Grower? We have made it a Reminder (for the Hell-fire,in the Hereafter);and an article of use for the travellers (and all the others,in this world).
So the fire is a blessing from Allah for man to use in this world and a reminder to him also about the hell in the hereafter,for him to work righteousness and save himself from it.

I never knew quran fell from the sky. bro listen, is insanity to think/believe the book(quran or other religious books) you are reading got the answer to the OP's question. 'shaytan/jins' in d jungle, lion is d shaytan/jins to an antelope''

lanrexlan: Shaytan himself,mankind and Jinns have been given freewill,choice to choose between right and wrong.
Where's murder origin? From Allah? Obviously No,it came from man's freewill.Allah says in the glorious Quran in Surah Ash-Shams 91:7-8 -And by Nafs (a soul),and Him Who perfected him in proportion;Then He showed him what is wrong for him and what is right for him.Shaytan rebel because of the freewill given to him.
N B Shaytan is from the Jinns and Jinns are created from fire.Shaytan isn't an angel because Angels don't have freewill and will never go against Allah's order.

'freewill' how free is it without a cause? Please check for d dictionary meaning and see if man was created with one.

shaytan and jins created out of fire? Who created d fire? For what purpose?he who created d fire also creates shaytan &jins,right? Just like lions were created with antelope in same enviroment.

OlaoChi: That's for the muslims to answer

yeah,it was meant for d muslim dude 'lanrexlan'

OlaoChi: In the quran Adam was created and placed above the jinns, pride made Shaytan rejected that status and disobeyed Allah, he went ahead to decieve Adam and his wife to disobey Allah as revenge.
The concept is quite different from Jews and Christians

'Pride' here causes Shaytan to disobey? Then where/what is its(pride) origin? I mean from which source? Thin air, allah or no origin?

'One pursuing such enquiries is like squirrel which frantically runs around and round the circling treadmill Wheel of his cage,travelling ever and yet reaching nowhere-at the end a prisoner still and standing just where he started'

'we are all here for a reason which has been written' the truth can only be revealed during 'transition' (death) to d other side. any religious theories are mere speculations. my thought.


oh, one more. free your mind from those religious dogma(those stories of Adam sinned and you are to pay d Price) that will help.

Mujah1deen: Christians won't make heaven .none of you will make it .
That's why they must embrace Islam and accept Allah in their life

Am glad GOD is far from your finite mind.

'Free-will' is it really free without a cause?

'Sin' attributed to satan as its origin,according to d scriptures(bible) he(satan) is a spirit then where/what is the origin of the 'spirit' that posessed d said angel Lucifer to become 'satan' and rebel against God? Free-will? Without a cause?

If Archangel 'lucifer' created by God b4 man(according to d bible)as Angel could be corrupted then truly THE IFFINITE MiND OF ALL is UNKNOWABLE.

scampy: I prefer.......
LAST DON
THE GODFATHER
THE GOODFELLAS.

Your first 'three' are real.

Originalsly: Scarface... Jerusalema... Shottas.... City of God.

Nice movies good taste.

enkaay: My husband has infertility issues; low count and motility. We have tried all sorts of infertility treatments without luck. Right now we've decided to take it slow and try natural vitamins that boost count/motility. If anyone has an experience, please share so others can learn.

Do your hubby place lap-top upon his lap often? if he does then ask if he often feels vibration in his 'male-part' during and after browsing.
if YES let me know.
this might seems funny to some,but I tell u it almost ruin my life as a man.

thanks bro,for your enlightening responds

macof: True the bini came to know about the personality of Orunmila through Ife but bini/Edo Doesn't have to have the same practices since they don't like to be referred as part of yorubaland.

Isekiri also has the Orunmila personality and concept but wit little difference in practices.

In yorubaland, Babalawo doesn't use blood for divination, only during initiation

The only tools are : opon Ifa(Ifa tray), opele, ikin. the client doesn't take part in the process(he doesn't know Ifa divination) he doesnt need to talk about his problem, his duty is to find how Ifa's message relates to him or let the Babalawo do the full interpretation(if he has been told wat d problem is already)

Ifa/Iha is an old system in bini, existing since Eweka.

do u know how many Odu Ifa exist in the bini version?

Actually not during divination i will say initiation cos rites are involved and then prepared in plate with a cover(the 32 nuts) given to the client to offer sacrifices and oblations when necessary(the reason for my first question in my first post) note, the client knows nothing abt casting Ifa divination.

No bro.

'This Thing Of Ours' almost 2hrs worth it but not a good end.

FOLYKAZE
Pls don't get me wrong. There is no where in my/your post that suggest Orunmila is from benin, most of Edo deities are from Yoruba Land. You have helped so much to clarify issues which I had little or no knowledge abt.

Then in Benin, looking around every-where you see 'this' which they refers as Orunmila, while reverse was d case during all my years in Yoruba-Land who hold the origin to these Deities. I could recall a visit to Babalawo(in Benin)with my parents for a solution to a particular problem which finally this man recommend Orunmila which was performed and kept(as to be worshiped) in a way I explained in my previous post.
What am saying is that,this tradition(Orunmila)seems to be highly ADULTERATED amongst we the Binis, from my inquiries so far.

@FOLYKAZE/MACOF.
Is like d concept of Orunmila by (MOST) Edos(binis) is either 1.adulterated 2.is a different Orunmila(there is only one I supposed) 3.or is just a scam.
From my findings so far(mostly from u guys),what many Babalawos(in benin) refers to as Orunmila is not,because the way and manner it being done which is quite different from their Yoruba counterpart where Orunmila has its Origin.the Edo concept, 32 nuts are involved,blood of 'hen' is required first and seventh day and these 'nuts' are to be used as means or representation of Orunmila.imagine these 'nuts' being given to a client( who has no idea of divination) as Ifa/ Orunmila,it will yield Zero result I think.

The Edos(binis) traditional means of divination,is Iha/Ominigbon(thou also brought to Benin Kingdom by a foreigner) similar to Ifa/Orunmila which I would have believed to be d Bini's version of Orunmila is also strictly a divination tools which doesn't require blood.

One of the reasons(lack of proper knowledge) stated above could make pple embrace other foreign Belief.