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THE ALL(Almighty God) ''in itself'' is and must ever be UNKNOWABLE .thou regard all the theories, guesses and speculations of the theologians and methaphysicians regarding the inner nature of THE ALL(God) as but the childish efforts of mortal minds to grasp the secret of the Infinite.Such efforts have always failed and will always fail,from the very nature of the task. kybalion.

What will u do if u find Hitler in your heaven,fight God?

Once upon a time In America, on the list.

emotional: @Darthmaul,not that emotional anyway. I love mafia movie,LAST DON most,if na that one dey make your T shirt tear ready to chat any-time.


sopranos, is real as you said.

@jade
sometimes, same movies touches in a different ways.

@macof.
Thanks bro. What abt that of initiation?

Thanks.
Orunmila/Ifa, requires(animal) sacrifices, right? Is Ikin/Opele also d receptor of d blood? (Where d blood is sprinkled)

Initiation, scenario where d initiates is absent while d parents are present,how possible?

Divination through phone, your view?

Welcome back.
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Sin nombre(No name)Latino Gang movie

@FOLYKAZE. Bros u harsh small some of your respond carries some elements(tones)which reminds me of my old-days teacher,so if I sense that'' e-whip'' I take d next exit.

My hand raised for more questions.

Thanks guys, Cleared.

FOLYKAZE: To the best I know it, Orunmila covers intelligence and divinity. I have searched everywhere but cant find any image representation or carved wood that represent Orunmila. The only representation we could talk about here is Ikin Ifa. And from my best knowledge, Ikin is the tool use for communiting with Orunmila and having access to ones Ori and other Orisa.

And I read through the question again but cant grap what you really driving at. Is it that Orunmila doesn't have image representation (if it this, Ikin or Opele could be what you call representation)? Or can you rephrase your question more better here.

You nailed it,a kind of representation, this 'Ikin or Opele' are they (like)palm-kernel? Often Kept in a white plate or bowl,pls I realy need clarification,is it compulsory for Orunmila/Ifa child(seeker)to have this kind of(Ifa representation? Not to derail d thread do I drop my mail? Thanks once again

FOLYKAZE: Read about Orunmila and Ifa here. https://www.nairaland.com/1486568/plain-concept-eledumare-orisas-reality#19131425 . You can ask any question either on this thread or on the said thread. Thanks bro

You are wlcm. Am also following d said thread but I couldn't find any post directed at it,if u can explain it here briefly. thanks for d privilege.

macof: Mr man, u are a complete Jewish slave, there's nothing in ur head, ur brain has been polluted immensely with brainwash and mental slavery. Only Esu can save u from ur problem

U say ogboni doesn't do idolatry-.wat is idolatry?
I'll u show that Ogboni does idolatry

Lol Anybody who can't see the fraud of christianity cannot leave christianity. His enlightenment was flawed

Oduduwa is not Aaron, the last idolatrous leader of Israel that I can remember is Aaron. Israelis are not into idols because Moses claimed Yahweh was against it. They instead used the mountains around their cities as idols.

No one can rebel against The most high God, And The most high god doesn't interfere with human lives, that's why he has children and messengers

Lol Oduduwa a code name for numerous migrates. So Numerous people were crowned 1st king(s) of Ile-Ife

Imagine u point to the land of ur masters as the cradle of humanity. I say Africa is the cradle of humanity.

In Africa were the first evolutionary process on Humans achieved.


Look at this hypocrite talking about true seeker, are u a true seeker? You dat has sold ur live to a foreigner for free


Lmao so yeshua didn't really come for the world, he came only for the lost sheep of Israel. you the first Christan to actually admit this on NL

One thing u should know is that Orunmila worshiper's don't need idols, Ifa represents everything about him and even more. Why keep an idol?
Personally I have never seen Any Orunmila Idol, Orunmila walks with all his devotees, Idols are unnecessary and I think not allowed(could be wrong sha)

Of course, Iam not Israel, I am Yoruba Ekiti.

have been following and enjoying this thread,thanks to you all. pls FOLYKAZE / GHOSTOFSPARTA can you guys explain the bolded?

Every thing na 'SIN' SIN AND SIN.I wonder wetin remain for una to enjoy. I thank God say he (God) no be who una paint am to BE.

D man(mog) was trying to deliver d ''kpekus''

d defination is to be sure that we are talking abt same-thing that happens during sleep but when taking further there are more to it.

abt

Incrizz: You can influence your "night mind" by your "day mind" by The Word of God.


You are special.

do u agree that one can recieve directions and warnings through dream? 'NOT ALL DREAMS ARE FEARFUL' not all dreams you do your 'binding and casting' some lives had been saved as a result of revelation in d dream. this is why i suggest you classify d topic.
there are cases u just have to yield to it instead of casting and binding that which is not there. this is my point.

[quote author=Tiphareth]Let us remember here that: ''Power is Neutral'' and can be used for both evil and good. There is no evil or good power. Whether the person invoking such power or 'prayer' is a christian, muslim, ATR, etc. it does not matter. Hence, the Bible, Quran, Bhagavad Gita, Book of Shadows, Upanisad, etc can be used to do evil or good depending on the doer's intension.
Tiphareth[/quote

You said it all. My 1000 like.

'the topic should have read 'GIVE YOUR EATING IN D DREAM A POSITIVE INTERPRETATIONS'
cos there are dreams which are visions of Warnings,revelation or direction which might be scarry at times.

Incrizz: Okay..
I didn't say vision though.
Peace.

Your topic says 'dream' i tried to find if there is a differ meaning to what i understood as dream(thou broad) but i found none,may be u should have classify it(topic)


Dreams are successions of images, ideas, emotions, and sensations that occur involuntarily in the mind during certain stages of sleep(wiki).

peace.

[quote author=Incrizz]Or sex-ual, from a mind full of sex-ual lust.
Or defeat, from a mind full of doubt.
Strengthen your mind by the word.


@op
Have u ever try to take note of your dreams? I mean pay attention to it.
If u say all dreams are just a reflection may be you are not being conscious enough.go through your bible and see for yourself d benefits/power of dreams.
I count myself as one who got this gift(to for-see things in d dream)or who is conscious.
Am not here to engage in argument or share my personal exp.thou I got a lot enough to write short book. But I ask u to be conscious take note of your dreams cos not all are reflections.peace

Are all dreams fearful? Dreams reflection of d mind? Not all.

ok, thanks.

@Ghostsparta
Thanks for taking your time to enlighten pple like myself.pls permit me to put these questions to u here(unrelated to topic) after reading most of your writings on NL.
1.Is there any relationship between 'awon-iya-onshoronga' (eleye/aje) and Orunmila? Cos I ve always think that they'eleye/aje' are d ones behind it.
2.Is it normal for babalawo to prescribe/suggest or recommend orunmila as a solution(to deliver/protect)to some spiritual problems?
3.Is being a child/ worshiper of orunmila a choice or destiny?e.g during ifa consultation, Babalawo asking his client who knew nothing abt Orunmila,where is his Orunmila/ifa(I mean the visible items seen on the altar or shrine)
4.What is ifa and Orunmila, Any difference?
5.Can Ifa be consult on phone or is just a scam?
Pls Note: terms used are based on my little knowledge abt this things. preferred mailing pls let me know

@Darthmaul,not that emotional anyway. I love mafia movie,LAST DON most,if na that one dey make your T shirt tear ready to chat any-time.


sopranos, is real as you said.

@Darthmaul. Please this is not about´wack´is abt sharing movie ideas. If I prefer THE LAST DON to GOD-FATHER am not asking you to do thisame.

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Firstly,it all depends on what ¨better life¨ means to you and secondly its depend on how you wish to live or enjoy your life or what makes you happy and lastly,the type of life you lived back home.for instance,availability of basic amenities in the western world  makes  life better while is opposite in 9ja. same-time pple in some villages in africa without electric power supply or other infrastructure yet consider themselves happy even more than some pple in abroad if I may say. e.g You cant imagine one in abroad with two kids,no job no un-employment benefits if uve finished the one you due for(in some western E.U contries)while back home he could easily provide for his family, so should such person consider abroad life better?
Some said something abt 24hr power supply but ask how many hours do you stay at home to enjoy the power?if abroad is better why do some come to abroad on vacation and yet go back home? if nigeria is good while do some have to trek tru the desert to make Europe? in all bro-BE CONTENTED WITH D  LITTLE YOU HAVE. comfort is not that too difficult to achieve in life,it only  depends on what to be comfortable means to you.cheers

invest in what? l mean what are u into?u should have go further.your proposal?we are talking abt money.

@ABUZOLA /OLABOWALE

WHAT IS THE FAITH OF THE AMPUTEES ON JUDGEMENT DAY? THEIR CASE RE-TRIED OR THEY ALREADY GOT STRAIGHT TICKET TO PARADISE BY AMPUTATING THEM? QUESTION STILL UNANSWERED.

MORE HUMAN: here it means sharia as a law is human and not of or made by God, or is  Allah a name of a person?(MAN-MADE LAWS) to be precise.for me sharia and its judges are same as d ¨kotu alagbada¨you mentioned.


OLABOWALE QUOTES:
Emotional, Omo boy, you amused me plenty. And am not in the mood to laugh hard, right now. Finally, if you wrong your fellow man, you are required to seek amendment with him. If you don't and he has not forgiven you, then you will get punished in the day of "Certainty", since your heart is not pure enough to have a resolve with him, in all the years you spent on earth.


READ THIS AGAIN:
If I offend any man,and I ask for forgiveness and the person or group of pple refuse to forgive  I´ll look up to GOD for forgiveness how does it sounds? cos HE IS GOD OF MERCY.these pple forgiveness doesn't  matter if really I REAPENT of my sins.

This means,after asking for forgiveness and yet they refused,I got no options than to Look up to God for total forgiveness.


YOUR QUOTES:And your God have to "arise" by your commandment before "He" acts? Allah is always ready.

You see, this is exactly my point,why not say u are always ready and not Allah cos l can only see you pple rising and  judging pple and not ALLAH or he potrayed himself tru you as d judge? pls dont tell me that cos I´ll say you are Allah and he his not God nor gods.

YOUR QUOTES:

Issue with Allah is clear. Afterall, in addition to belief as a muslim, Allah commands that you act right with your fellow man.

Then if your fellow isnt right with u he should be killed, maimed by asking Allah for intervention?

I tell you brother,RELIGION OR NOT if any body commands you to throw a stone at others for his own reasons or beliefs and you did without asking yourself why and d right you have to carry out such action,is INSANITY.

MY QUESTION STILL UNANSWERED.

@OLABOWALE.
Thanks,but I must confess, your explanations seems more human,e.g Nigeria laws states,death penalty is usually for those that commit murder according to the federal law not ISLAMIC,CHRISTIANITY OR PAGANISM.I think there is a difference between a government of a nation and of GOD ALMIGHTY. for example will you amputate your son for stealling your own money? the ways of men are not the ways of GOD, any religion that man intends to play God to judge other pple for me personally, is not a religion  that worship MERCIFUL,FORGIVING AND ALL-LOVING GOD. keep Islam aside and think for a while are the judges in SHARIA COURT WITHOUT SINS? as the Yoruba saying ¨ohun ti koda,koda. ko lo oruko meji¨ If rape crime is low in saudi because of sharia and not for the fear of ALLAH that means the pple are more fearful of sharia than the wrath of Allah but remember,how about the ones commited in secrecy,either sheiks nor imam are aware of it how are they judge, go unpunished? according to your sharia theory.

OLABOWALE QUOTES.
¨Interestingly, Michael Vicks of Atlanta Falcons, have just been released from Prison. Yet the debate is still raging on about his sin/crime against the dogs he raised in Virginia for fighting. This man have lost so much money, personally spent years in jail, yet the "good Christian society" of America have shown no "forgivenesss!" What is this guy to do? Is there no chance for him, again?


If I offend any man,and I ask for forgiveness and the person or group of pple refuse to forgive I´ll look up to GOD for forgiveness how does it sounds? cos HE IS GOD OF MERCY.these pple forgiveness doesnt really matter if really I REAPENT of my sins.

In christianity: OH LORD ARISE AND LET MY ENEMIES BE SCATERED,iS He Lord that need to arise not me so if some sects interprets it as ¨I ARISE  FOR MY  ENEMIES TO BE SCATERED¨surely they shall have their reward.YET MY QUESTIONS REMAIN UNANSWERED.

@ABUZOLA.

¨FORGIVING AND MERCIFUL¨please can u explain more further?(1) If Allah is merciful and forgiving why SHARIA COURT? the muslims believes in judgement day if am right,so (2)who are  to be judged on this day, if imam and sheiks has already judged all sinners ?(3) Allah is merciful why not let him purnish his offenders? PLEASE BE REASONABLE.

@olabowale-3 PEACE: submission to Allah's will,one can take a life of a man not his family as vengeance,please bros.drop quran just 4 once, ask yourself if really PEACE do exist in ur claim."ANYONE SHOULD COME-UP WITH HOLYBOOK"to prove its religion was created by God,obviously all were written by man and none (holybook)of any religion contradits its creation by god/supernatural being,so ?