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Mikecold:
lol, joke on you o, where did it say 5 times

You have been roundly defeated, you are shinning your teeth olodo.

Q11:114)

And establish the Prayer at the two ends of the day and in the first hours of the night. Indeed the good deeds drive away the evil deeds.

Olodo 2+1 is =3

Sura 2:238

Sahih International: Maintain with care the [obligatory] prayers and [in particular] the middle prayer and stand before Allah , devoutly obedient.

Pickthall: Be guardians of your prayers, and of the midmost prayer, and stand up with devotion to Allah.

Yusuf Ali: Guard strictly your (habit of) prayers, especially the Middle Prayer; and stand before Allah in a devout (frame of mind).

Shakir: Attend constantly to prayers and to the middle prayer and stand up truly obedient to Allah.

No where did it say pray 5 times you Muslims Fabricated as usual five times in (as obligatory)

The question then becomes where did the obligatory of 5 times come from?

You had better go hide your head in shame, this type of defeat is why Islam is always second best to christianity

We always put you behind

oh Lord have mercy. So you still missed it despite it's obvious in my previous post?. You want me to repost the same list for you to see or itemize them for you?.

Second question is, where it says "5 daily prayers". This is rather a silly question. When something is already itemized, why does the QUR'AN needs to repeat itself by saying "5 daily prayers" when it already mentioned them by their signs?.

First all, what determines Salat times is SUN. Probably this is why you don't get it. So go back to all the verses quoted and read slowly this time and you realize it is 5 of them. But if what you are looking for mentioning their names in the Quran, then I wonder how you graduated?.

Mikecold:


Clown where is the 5 times?

you were defeated to the point that you can't see

Mikecold:
Can you bring the scripture in your Quran where you were told to pray 5 times a day?

It seems you think this is a jungle where you would start deflecting with distraction.

There is no question of yours in the Bible that hasn't been trashed here

You want to run from bringing the verse in the Quran for 5 prayers like you threw Hadith under the bus

I will frustrate you more. You will end up accepting Islam on nairaland

QUR'AN says "establish regular salat"


✓ Salat al-fajr: the dawn or any time before sunrise

✓ Salat al-zuhr: midday, after the sun passes its highest
✓ Salat al-'asr: the late part of the afternoon

✓ Salat al-maghrib: dusk or just after sunset

✓ Salat al-'isha: between sunset and midnight



Q11:114)

And establish the Prayer at the two ends of the day and in the first hours of the night. Indeed the good deeds drive away the evil deeds. This is a Reminder to those who are mindful of Allah.


^^^
This to refer to Salat al-fajr, Salat al-maghrib and Salat al-'isha.,



Surah 30 Rum Ayat 17-18 states,

"So, glorify Allah in the evening and in the morning; all praise is for Him in the heavens and the earth- as well as in the afternoon and at noon."

This to refer to Salat al-fajr, Salat al-zuhr, Salat al-asr and Salat al-magrib.



Salat Asr is the most delicate one. It is middle Salah. It is a great sin to miss it. A whole verse is specially dedicated for it. Sura 2:238 is very explicit about it not only this verse

"Guard strictly (five obligatory) AsSalawat (the prayers) especially the middle Salat (i:e the best prayer Asr). And with obedience"


O ti pe 5


O ya, go back to your pastor who sent you to me to ask me this question. Tell him that o ti jere mo ya (jere miah) . Tell your pastors that there is a guy on NL, the "Islam Empire", the one and only slayer of christianity

Mikecold:
First of all i don't do Taqiya you must stand by all your hadiths as i have by the Bible

you may not but your Paul did.




"'How can you say, "We are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely? Jere 8:8




Therefore let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, HEB 6:1


Our Hadith has CLASSIFICATIONS. This what defeated your purpose. Even if you wake up a Muslim baby and quote that hadith in Tabari the baby will tell you it is false and you should just your brain

I can not be dealing with some one that runs from his hadiths

If you stand by your hadiths then you must accept that Mohammed is a fabricator

Or do they say: "He (Muhammad SAW) has forged it (this Quran)?" Nay! They believe not! Q52:33

Quran is the 'criterion' that determines right from wrong not historian.


Blessed is the One Who sent down the Standard to His servant, so that he may be a warner to the whole world. Q25:1

As for Matthew i am typing my reply on it.

you are welcome to come up with your gibberish bring it on, man

Mikecold:
The Hadith are either useless or respected

You don't cherry pick what makes you happy

Bible is 100% the source of Christianity, we don't use anything outside Bible to live the Christian life so you basically have no other sources to bring (not like you have an opinion)

In Islam reverse is the case i have showed you no where in the Quran where you given 5 daily prayers.

This is the core pillar salat of a Muslim life yet it's from Hadith.

and so?. The Hadith about salat is mentioned in the Quran and it is perfectly in line with Quran.. So you aren't making point.

Going to toilet with left foot, licking your hands while eating and all the obnoxious practices practiced by Muslims are free from the Hadith.

these are voluntary practices. There is no Hadith that compelled them. So you aren't making point.

The Quran is actually the lesser source when Islam talks practice you can keep deceiving yourself.

this is your opinion. No practices in Islam can be exclusively mandatory on Muslims without Quran come first. Quran must first talk about it and Hadith elaborates. I seen you have been trained in your Bible classes how to deal with Muslims using hadith..I will teach you lessons. I already trashed your Bible. I'm glad you said Bible is your only source and that's why it is even easy for us to trash it and we did. I have just showed you fraud in the book of Matthew that shut you up.

Al Tabari Hadith confirmed Mohammed to be a fabricator

E dey pain you . I am christian slayer. Shey Tabari is God and Angel according to you, for you to hold on to that while there are many aHadith that debunk that?. CHRISTIANs and tricks are 6/5 . Millions of nonmuslims out there know only QUR'AN as Muslim holy book not Tabari.

The Quran is a fabrication of Mohammed which i don't take serious

I know you are in pain since I break your back in the book of Matthew. You have never heard your pastor interpreted those verses the way I did. It cut you off guard

You better return to your pastor to renew your energy and return here and I will slay you again or maybe you are pastor self Go and call Adeboye to come here or tell him to explain those Matthew verses to you and return here. I will teach you what you never heard of in your Bible studies

Quran is our primary source. And we believe in hadith so long as it is on compliance with the Quran. Why do you run to Hadith self?. It means Quran is too big to challenge.

Mikecold:
Can you see how the Abdul above have been running from pillar to post condemning his Hadith as corrupted when he found out Mohammed was a fabricator

He has relegated his Hadith to newspaper yet Hadith is what teaches them how to pray and live a Muslim life

stop lying. I didn't relegate hadith. I said Hadith that are in harmony with QUR'AN is what is acceptable. Hadith that is in conflict with the QUR'AN is set aside. QUR'AN is primary source in Islam. You quoted Tabari, an historian. Common now receive sense a little bit. Quran says it was revealed to prophet muhammad (SAW),




Say (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ): "Whoever is an enemy to Jibrael (Gabriel) (let him die in his fury), for indeed he has brought it (this Quran) down to your heart by Allah's Permission, confirming what came before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] and guidance and glad tidings for the believers. Q2:97


This Ayah refuted Tabari


Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad SAW) forged it (the Quran)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged Surah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth!"



O ya, this is Quran challenge^^^


Another one,


Or do they say: "He (Muhammad SAW) has forged it (this Quran)?" Nay! They believe not! Q52:33

Quran is the 'criterion' that determines right from wrong not historian.


Blessed is the One Who sent down the Standard to His servant, so that he may be a warner to the whole world. Q25:1



Bible is your primary source. Quran is our primary source. It only makes sense that you tackle Islam first by using QUR'AN because when we debate christian we use Bible. We do not rely on christian external sources 80% of the time. So you may need to try harder when you return.

La ko ni mo wa bi ibon

AdakaBoro8:
guy dont be fvcking dumb.. ask me question because everything you saying here is from ignorancy.

every thing is in the bible..

abeg go sit down.. You have nothing significant to say

Rilwayne001:
This is contrary to the earlier news that says he's finally dead. Hahaha. Shekau now has 6 lives. LMAO.

Even death dey fear him. Hehee

you have seen nothing yet. Next report's gonna be

"CORRECTION: BH leader was not involved in suicide bomb blast, it was a truck that came to deliver weapons to him that exploded"

Awon werey

Mikecold:
Simeon the prophet held the baby Jesus in his arms and declared, “a light for revelation to the ‘gentiles’ and for glory to your people Israel.” (Lk 2:30-32)

this was when Jesus was baby. Simeon was the one talking. His words have no weight. Jesus clarified to whom he was sent


"Then Jesus replied, "I have been sent only to the lost sheep of the people of Israel." Matthew 15:24


What is the meaning of ONLY?. Is Simeon God that sent Jesus?. Answer is no.

Matthew 28

18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,

first all, you have problem here.

Verse 18 says "All authority had been given to me"

First implication is that it proves there is a Supreme power beyond Jesus. This contradicts Christians propaganda that Jesus is God. If he's God when then have him power?.

Second implication is OBVIOUS CONTRADICTION. Matthew 28:18-19 CONTRADICTS Matthew 15:24. If Jesus said he was sent "ONLY to the lost sheep" and later said "to all nations", the only way Christians can reconcile this obvious contradiction is by harmonizing both verses to derive a meaning. This means "all nations refers to all twelve tribes of Israel not Nigeria, not America, not Europe etc. Jesus message was restricted to Lost Sheep Of Israel.

To make it worse, they added "baptize in the name of the father, son and holy spirit". This is where trinity crept in Christianity. The idea was forgery that was later added. Scholars such as F. C. Conybeare have claimed that the Trinitarian baptismal formula of Matthew 28:19 was not original to the text of Matthew.

The correct reading of Matthew 28:19 appears to be in Luke 24:47:


"and repentance for the forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in his name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem"

Again, All Nations refers to all 12 tribes. Otherwise Bible is false. Quran speaks about these 12 tribes of israelites as well. That's how muslims understand it better.



Quran 61.6. "And Jesus son of Mary said: "O Children of Israel! Surely I am the Messenger of God sent to you,.."



So you can see the manuscripts in Matthew was fraud

AdakaBoro8:
now i understand you clear..
pls use your brain bro..
ask you will understand..

you dont know any relationship between jews and christians, and their later hatred that occure.. instead of you to ask me questions, you choose to keep swimming in ignorancy.

same thing one of your brother does that i later educate him.

guy, stop dangling. Go to Israel and preach your Jesus to them and see what you get in return. I have shown you evidences. The Jews that relate with Christians only do so for emotional support for Jewish state nothing more.

The first video I showed you already clarified that your belief go against Judaism and Jewish values.

AdakaBoro8:
since i was born i never seen where a single person will represent a whole nation without their approval..

go and check percentage of Jews that believe in Jesus. I don't know why you guys are so hypocritical. It is known fact that Jews don't believe in Jesus.

Who do you think only this man reject Jesus?. Be sensible for once. Here are another ones.

"We Killed Jesus We Are Proud Of It"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IoCZO98CEs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xapPGi3HVV8

When it comes to crime, there is nothing like "begging", "please"etc. A nation can not be upright when you treat crime with kiddie gloves. This is why nigeria doesn't move forward.

If truly Baba ijesha committed crime and you people are begging on his behalf, you are doing exact same thing politicians do when they allow criminals off the hook.

Are you gonna be like this if you are able to have your Yorùbá nation?. We have gotta do away with culture of cover up in Black community.

Mikecold:
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It Is Finished



1 Corinthians 15: 18

In that case, all those who have died while believing in Christ are perished.


Gentiles are not Israelites or Jews. They lived outside of middle east and Jesus message was not for them. They are kufar (unbelievers) according to Jesus. They are the ones shouting "in Jesus name" today hoping Jesus name will aid them. Jesus didn't recognize them.


Matthew 12:21

"And in his name unbelievers will hope" (ISV)

Mikecold:
The pathetic thing about Muslims is hypocrisy

They would deny everything from their own source's if it doesn't make muhammad look good

For a people that scream Bible is corrupted even when Bible came before their religion, you would expect that they are free from the same hypocrisy called "corruption"

You are now shamelessly blaming Christian's and Jews for corrupting your own books too, even though Mohamed killed all Christian's and Muslims alone had say on Islamic collection in that time

Hadith is not wahy (revealation) except those that are in harmony with Quran. It is only Quran you can quote from that we can never deny. It is the primary source of information in Islam. Hadith is like Bible although still far better than Bible. Hadith contains words of many people, history and traditions of local people.

Hadith is not the first in line to describe character of the prophet, QUR'AN is. So any aHadith or stories that are in conflicts with QUR'AN have to be rejected. And yes, Jews and Nassara lived in Medina. Jews infiltrated Hadith and imputed unfounded stories after prophet had gone. May I educate you that there were no CHRISTIANS or CHRISTIANITY in Mecca and Medina those days. There were Jews and Nassara (not christians). Christianity did not exist in Arabia and entire middle east. It was translators and scholars of islam that translated nassara to Christians due to similarities in doctrines between nassara and CHRISTIANs. Nassara were followers of Jesus. Christians are followers of Paul. There is only one difference between NASSARA and CHRISTIANs.

Nassara believed in almost everything christians believe EXCEPT Iku ati Ajinde i:e Death & Resurrection of Jesus. Followers of Jesus at the time didn't believe this concept. This concept was the idea of Paul. So you can now understand why translators of QUR'AN and Hadith translated nassara to Christian but they are different. So death and resurrection of Jesus, which is where salvation of christians lies today is FALSE.

So wherever you see Christians mentioned in the QUR'AN or Hadith, it is referring to nassara (followers of Jesus) in Nasareti. This is bcuz the Quran and Bible say Jesus was sent ONLY to the children of Israel. You are NIGERIAN not Israelite. Jesus could not have been possibly sent to Africans. You are wasting your time in Christianity.

You want to throw Tabari your Muslim historian under the bus why don't we compare him to Bukhari who Muslims believe to be not just an imam but the most authentic Islamic scholar

From Bukhari's Hadith 3.786:

Narrated Anas bin Malik: A Jewess brought a poisoned (cooked) sheep for the Prophet who ate from it. She was brought to the Prophet and he was asked, "Shall we kill her?" He said, "No." I continued to see the effect of the poison on the palate of the mouth of Allah's Apostle.

Bukhari 5:59:713

Narrated 'Aisha: The Prophet in his ailment in which he died, used to say, "O 'Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison."



From Tabari Volume 8, page 124:

The messenger of God said during the illness from which he died- the mother of Bishr had come in to visit him - "Umm Bishr, ]at this very moment I feel my aorta being severed because of the food I ate with your son at Khaybar."

Above is the same narration of the same embarrassing event of which Mohamed died of poison by a Jewish woman.

and what do you want to derive from the Hadith?. AHadith did not say anything about character of the prophet. It simply narrated how prophet muhammad (SAW) felt about alleged poison he ate 4 years earlier. Is anything wrong with that?. But your Jesus died horrible on the cross why his God forsaken him there to die. Which is the worst death?.

If only Tabari had recorded it you would have also dismissed it, but look at your greatest scholar also confirming it.

You shamelessly forget that historical records everywhere are always relayed, and a faithful Muslim like Tabari had nothing to gain in telling lies about his prophet, neither picking sides with christians or muhammad haters for his records

As a Muslim historian he had better records than even Bukhari, the disclaimer he wrote is not an excuse, it is normal for all historical records that are relayed to have such explanation.

He didn't say his works were wrong, he said some readers might find it offensive if it doesn't agree with what they like to hear.


All you have done now is to cry as usual and blame christians for your own sources to run from the reality that Mohamed was a fabricator that fabricated his god word's (the Quran) upon which he erased clues to the fragments of his allegiance to Baal in the Quran which gets bursted with the full biography given by early Muslim scholars corresponding to the fabricated pieces in quran

so you mean to tell me the only thing you can find in entire Tabari was that "he said things that God did not tell him" while you ignored hundreds of positive things Tabari narrated?. For the fact that you brought issue of poison also shows that you are only looking for things to go against the prophet. My friend, I swear you are wasting your time. If prophet muhammad (SAW) imputed things that God did not tell him, then he would have removed from QUR'AN some verses that criticized him too such as first verse of sura Abassa.

All in all you just wasted my time reading your post. Like I knew you posted rubbish that's why I didn't read it yesterday. The only interesting part for me was to clarify Nassara and Christians. Your christianity religion has nothing to do with Jesus son of Mary.

Jesus son of Mary did not exist in the Bible. If you keep shouting "in Jesus name" till eternity you are wasting your time. There is nothing special in Jesus name. Matter of fact, you are gentile according to your Bible. And gentiles are infidels. So infidels rely on Jesus name. Believers rely on God's Name.

AdakaBoro8:
see this follower of abnomal mohamed..

was it not thesame jews that spread Jesus to the world..

you just watched him, didn't you?. He just told you they don't believe him. Why are you so myopic?.

AdakaBoro8:
islam is a useless religion. fake mohamed that was not even real.. Israel kill hem all we christians in nigeria are helping u with prayers. Israel shall win in Jesus mighty name. Amen.

they don't believe in your Jesus. Your prayer for them is futile.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ffneB51jws

Nathan2016:
Is Morons like you that keeps living in denial. So you dont know Hamas is an Islamic resistant Movement.


Islamic extremist like you wont see anything wrong with them launching missile to Israel.

You are rookie


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIbPJX5DdqU

BobbieZion:
Isn't this what you headslam to?

this is your Pope licking your baby Jesus dick. How do you feel now?.

And the baby feels damn good about it

Nathan2016:
I really don't know what you people that bring these nonsense think. A simple google search willl telll you the percentage of religion organisation in Israel. Yes we know oo. Israel is not a Christian nation. We are fully aware of it.

Christains all over the world arr freaking tired of Islam and their extremists practices. We are tired of it and if Israel can atleast teach those people a lesson... Yes, we are in support of it. I feel bad for the civilians (children and women) killed in cross fire.

Islam should find a way to modify their teachings. If it continues producing terrorist then something is wrong somewhere

something is obviously wrong with your head. What is Islam has to do with Israel killing people?. Can't you idiots be just for once?. Yet you are screaming about bh and HERDSMEN?. Imagine you said children and women are killed in crossfire. Why are you kiriyo so damn evil?.

Well, if you watched the whole debate you should known already it was actually a Christian guy that condemned any Christians that support Israel. But you idiotic african CHRISTIANS on this platform are full of evil

Donpenny:
by the time they started hitting your blood sucking brothers back to back like their palestinian counterpart you will started shouting crime against humanity

E dey pain you ooooo

Kebbiprince:
Don't support evil, I'm a core fulani Muslim but have seen friends being victims of bandits. Know what you wish for brother

you don't get the gist..I am mocking Christians for their support for Israel but claimed Palestinians can't defend themselves. So please leave me and them alone. Let me frustrate them until they get sense

BobbieZion:
Keep head slamming to the black stone of Lucifer in the Ka'ba.
Keep it up.

they are all headslammers including Jesus. There is no difference where they slammed their heads

BobbieZion:
They where not Head slamming to the black stone of Satan. Situated in the the ka'aba .

this means you agree they are headslammers... Just that they aren't bowing at the Kaaba.

Don't worry, I got some for you

BobbieZion:
Headslamming pain pass!!

Jesus and Pope were headslammers

Donpenny:
What we need is counter christian sect deadlier than the crustedier to checkmate this blood sucking islamic sect

it is too late dummy.

Your Bible says you are to turn the other side of your face. You are not to fight back. You are to be submissive to your oppressors my friend. If you dare pick up weapons against the bandits you are terrorsts

BobbieZion:
A terrorist writing from a mental asylum.

E dey pain u ooooo

Northernblood3:
Pigs. You will die a gruesome death. I know all these terrorists are after one thing. They are after Eradicating Christianity but, God will disappoint both them and some foolish ones in Christianity that keeps praying for them

God willing, bandits will actually take over. What goes around comes around. I'm glad you said they are trying to obliterate christianity in Nigeria.

Kindly go back history lane just a little less than 30 years ago, when your stupid christian leaders wrote a manifesto at Ebute Meta and published in Ibadan that called for eradication of Islam in Nigeria between 1990 and 2000 with help of western power and killings of Muslim leaders around the world. So I stand with bandits

Kandeed:
When would CAN advice Christians nationwide to get themselves guns to defend themselves and when would there be a Christian rebel leader? When for crying out loud??

no my friend. Christians do not have right to defend themselves like those Palestinians do not have right to defend themselves. If you pick up arms against bandits you are terrorists.

You get the gist?

Bunch of clowns

Live Debate - What Nigerians say


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rUX2MR6AO8


Christian Debater: "FFK, Daddy Freeze and all christians that support Israel are not Christians. God does not support Israel violence"

Mikecold:
Israel - Palestine debate didn't start in 1948

Those who want to start rounding the clock from 1948 are either possessed or scared of history

History remains the pointer to our present, if you are comfortable with going to 1948 why not go beyond it because the Palestinians, the Jews and the land in question pre ceeds 1948

Let's Dive In Shall We

Romans were already having issues with Jewish people in the Jewish state as at the 4th century that was around the time the established temple was destroyed and they were dispersed around the world

No time have the Jews shared heritage with Palestinians all this while until the Jews were chased by the invaders.


Ottoman establish their presence in the land in the late 1517 and upon their exit handed it to the Palestinians (their descendants) on a platter of gold (only because they were Muslims and would help surplant the "Jewish Infidel" forever from it)

This is exactly what Muslims turn around to blame UK for today

By the end of the world war, ottoman was sacked by the UK and allies.

They simply asked for equity that the original displaced Jews must be given a fair chance to integrate with Palestinians.

A two state solution was reached, but Muslims are crying foul

Who is unjust to who here?

When did Palestinians conquer Israel in war?

They keep changing history and calling the land "Palestine" up to the 8th century but they have no history to give for the so called Palestinians (the history they give is all about Jews)

Can you call a land Palestine and yet it's people/stories are Jewish?

Attached is all i could get on the history of Palestinians, only the land bears Palestine to the historians but the people are all Jewish events in history

even history didn't start in 1517. If you truly want to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth you must start history from day one when the land was given to the Jews on CONDITIONS which they violated and led to their banishment from holy land forever. This is how to start history. Don't cut in

Mikecold:
What lie?

Al Tabari 6:111

I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to him words which he has not spoken.. Mohammed

On this basis Mohammed is a fraud that can fabricate quran

Naturally no prophet of God has ever fabricated a thing against God and lived (except Mohammed and his god)

Your posts are just laughable sometimes. For record, Tabari was historian not a scholar of islam. Let this sink. This weak arguments you have been using aren't gonna help you. Weak and stupid argument made by you Christians , and you desperately and shamelessly use it to disprove the prophethood of Muhammed, forgetting there are verses on the Quran that actually talk to the prophet muhammad himself. Why did he not remove those verses?.



Anyways, this is gleaned from Tabari (below)



I shall likewise mention those (narrators) who came after them, giving additional information about them. I do this so that it can be clarified whose transmission (of traditions) is praised and whose information is transmitted, whose transmission is to be rejected and whose transmission is to be disregarded…The reader should know that with respect to all I have mentioned and made it a condition to set down in this book of mine, I rely upon traditions and reports which have been transmitted and which I attribute to their transmitters. I rely only very rarely upon (my own) rationality and internal thought processes. For no knowledge of the history of men of the past and of recent men and events is attainable by those who were not able to observe them and did not live in their time, except through information and transmission produced by informants and transmitters. This knowledge cannot be brought out by reason or produced by internal thought processes. This book of mine may contain some information mentioned by me on the authority of certain men of the past, which the reader may disapprove of and the listener may find detestable, because he can find nothing sound and no real meaning in it. In such cases, he should know that it is not my fault that such information comes to him, but the fault of someone who transmitted it to me. I HAVE MERELY REPORTED IT as it was reported to me.(Tareekh at-Tabari, Vol.1, Introduction)”

[ http://www.ahlelbayt.com/articles/islam/tabari ]


So this quote is a LIE against Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him), not just that, but there were many lies invented by the hypocrites from among the Jews in order to REJECT prophet Muhammed. The people were certain that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) was the awaited one and to defend themselves, the hypocrites from the Jews invented such lies.

Inventing lies is not a big problem for the liars, this is their job. For example, the Prophet once recited some Surahs(verses from Quran) to the pagans in Makkah and prostrated to God Almighty at the end. The pagans who were speechless at the beauty of the recitation also prostrated. When the news spread to the leaders of the pagans, they were upset and were looking to take action against those pagans who had prostrated. In order to defend themselves, those pagans lied that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had said good things about their false gods. The lie was made to defend themselves


^^^^

This also addressed your previous post that pagans etc prostrated with the holy prophet Muhammad [saw]


If Christians feel that the hypocrites were telling the truth and he really praised the pagan gods, then he must also accept the hypocrites around Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) who claimed the same for Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him).

Just like the hypocrites invented lies against the Prophets of the Old Testament (sinners, rapists, killers, incest performers, idol worshippers, nudists etc), they invented lies against Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) but the difference is that Muslims have rejected these hypocrites and have thrown them of their books .



Another thing, prophet Muhammed peace be upon him was SINCERE, and he was called ”The Trustworthy” and “Truthful” before his prophethood, so how can he fabricate things on God, doesn’t make any sense, does it ?!

Christians’ conclusion that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) had Satan behind him just reminds one of the story of Lazarus when Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) raised him from death by the permission of God Almighty. The hypocrites around him stated that “the devil was behind him”. Such allegations have been labeled at Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) as well and it is no surprise at all.



So this argument that Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) openly said that he lied is just PATHETIC and CHILDISH as can be seen. Making use of the weakest of weak narrations is the job of the HYPOCRITES.



I bear witness there’s no god but Allah, and Muhammed is his final messenger..


NOTE: I don't reply you solely for you to accept whatever I say. Nairaland is encyclopedia where people come for knowledge. Everyone picks what suit them from it.


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