₦airaland Forum

AlBaqir:
Israeli days are numbered.

They are muderfvkers... excuse me.

They actually forcing others to love them.

Don't think for a second most white people like them. Swear they don't. Last month took my car for service and this Jewish bearded man came in started talking about getting his car back before appointment time.

One of the employees who's white and mouthy started yelling at him that "don't bring Jewish superiority sh!t here. I don't give a flying fvck about you and your religion. Just because you are Jewish doesn't mean I have to serve you" bla bla bla. He just kept talking recklessly to the Jewish man. I don't blame him at all cuzz that's how they behave like they always wanna get their way.


You can see another proof in the video I sent you yesterday. See how the white guy stepped on Israeli flag and called it terrorist flag and would never serve it.


Also two night ago at a restaurant, a white lady came to sit by me and trying to be friend. She introduced herself and said she just wanted to get over stress and talk to someone. So I let her. She started talking about her Jewish boring family. She didn't mince words at all. Talked about her uncle, who suddenly turned devout Jewish and his life his so boring. That's why she left home and started drinking.

Said she visited Israel to see what people talking about how great it is. She said the place is "fvcking 3rd world country and can not live there". I can see rage on her face. She talked really bad about them trying to be superior. I simply kept quiet and listened more cuz what she was saying isn't new to me.

But the media portrayed as if most American white love Israel and they only show on TV few white pro Israel.

These are shuhadah OBVIOUSLY

Watching israelis on the news now overjoyous

Shame shame shame

adejaresalami1:
. كن حذرا يا سيدي

I don't know what's your problem with me

tintingz:
You know what I enjoy about you, when you see a question against your holy transcript and you want to escape from it you use the word "allegorical" to escape. We don't even know words that are literal and allegorical anymore, you're the one doing the mouth piece to explain and know which is allegorical/metaphorical and literal.

Ok, let's continue since you agree sins will continue even when Allah chain all the devils, then Satan is not the problem or is he? So where does evil cometh?

too hard to counter, abi Fact is, when it comes to religious text, we first all take it word for word I:e that's literal meaning until evidence suggests otherwise. So it is normal to assume literal interpretation that Angels actually open gates of hell in the lifeafter. But giving to account the activities of Angels as we know them, they do not need to take aircraft from Nigeria to America. They can be in America in a blink. Distance means nothing to them. You can check out for details on Seeing Angels thread by Emekaraj. Ikupakuti made brilliant contributions about this. We also see evidence in the time of Nabi Sulaimon(ra) activities of Jinn travelled to bring chair of Queens in a blink. If jinn could do this, Angels who are more powerfu, why would they need to physically open the gate?. These attributes used in the Qur'an and Hadith are pretty much for human comprehension purposes. They mean nothing in spiritual realm.

I think you almost answer the question below.


Allah infuse evil in humans?

I just want to be clear.

Well, since you have prior knowledge about Islam, it will be irrational arguing over this. You know better unless you chose to mock.

Anyways, ruh is pure at outstart when it is infused in the body. We human corrupt our ruh by doing illegal and sinful activities.

Fundamentalist:
Rubbish , I'm not surprised my people would be drinking his urine

what's wrong with you people?. What you guys are doing is not sunnah faah. Why are you so judgemental?. Why are you so suspicious?.

Suspicions can be sinful

tintingz:
How do you know this, have you been to heaven and hell gates before?

You're telling me that even if Allah chain all the devil permanently humans will still err, sin?

Sins and crime continue to take place in the month all around the world. Does this hadith mean the deviations in this month would not count? Does it mean that every sin in this month would be forgiven or does it mean that people cannot commit sin in this month?. The hadith explains some key concepts of Ramadan in an allegorical manner as I have alleged earlier. If we consider the language as symbolic, the hadith offers a logical and viable rationale for developing a strong conviction and appreciation of the Prophetic wisdom.


We can infer from the opening of the gates of heavens to mean that God makes our journey to the heavenly state of utmost peace and happiness effortless and accessible under His divine grace in the month of Ramadan. During this month believers have a month long opportunity to change their life style and environment to attain a higher state of self-consciousness.

And you haven't answer the question, are these chained-devils later released or escape?

Chaining the devils means that God makes it easier in this month of Ramadan for people to control their behavior in the wake of all temptations, physical, social and spiritual. In a moment of high self-consciousness an individual would ensure that he or she does not commit any act that would either defy the divine or reject his mercy.

By who?

By Creator's Command

adejaresalami1:
Soofi Vs freethinker......

أليس لديك احساس؟

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*Women and Education in Islam*
*Part 05 of 05*


Anas b. Malik (may Allah be well pleased with him) narrates: when people became separated from the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him), I saw ‘A’isha bint Abi Bakr and Umm Sulaym (may Allah be well pleased with them) were completely covered in attire. They would bring water-bags upon their back, offer it to the thirsty Muslims and then return. They would bring water-bags again and made the thirsty Muslims drink it. 

[Narrated by al-Bukhari in al-Sahih, 3:1055 §2724.]



Umm ‘Atiya (may Allah be well pleased with her) says: I participated in six battles with the Holy Prophet (blessings and peace be upon him). I would pursue the Ghazis in their tracks, cook food for them and do dressing for the injured and make arrangements for treatment of the diseased. [Narrated by al-Bukhari in al-Sahih, 1:333 §937 & 2:595 §1569.]



This practice continued in the period of the rightly-guided Caliphs after the period of Prophethood. It is related in the books of sira that women were part of the parliament (majlis al-shura) during the period of ‘Umar b. al-Khattab (may Allah be well pleased with him). [Narrated by ‘Abd al-Razzaq in al-Musannaf, 6:180 §10420.] During the rule of ‘Uthman (may Allah be well pleased with him), women were designated as ambassadors to other countries.

 [Related by al-Tabari in Tarikh al-Umam wa al-Muluk, 2:601.]



In a similar manner the history of Islam is replete with the mention of women who obtained distinguished positions in the fields of hadith sciences, the science of interpretation, jurisprudence, medical science, poetry and calligraphy. [Shaykh-ul-Islam Dr Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri, Women Rights in Islam.]



It is thus imperative, if a nation wishes to be successful and move towards a sustainable reality, the women of that society must be given every opportunity to attain knowledge and education which is not only her due but a right that has been ordained to her by Almighty Allah.


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Lajet:
Chief Imam is on his own we Yoruba Muslim are against what he is doing we stand with our Master Fulani

I would not say our masters. You are complicating that. Rather, our brothers in faith. The one who called himself chief Imam of Yoruba na yeyeman. As you can see him besides Gani Adams, they are alawo. Not true muslims.

That's what they want to bring to ilorin. They only have Muslim names. Anof!a them.

madridguy:
Lol, you mean this babalawo is imam again?

exactly what they want in ilorin. I don't want that crap

Lol

Interesting....

tintingz:
You also don't buy the "heaven gate will open and hell gate will close" literally right?

like the gate made by your welders mtcheew

Angels don't need to literally open physical gates. Imagine if they could travel thousands of miles in a blink, what the heck they gonna open physical gates for?. Makes sense?

So why are some devil chained and some left alone, why can't Allah chain all devil permanently? Are they later released or escape?

I don't need to wait for Fatwa to answer this. It is simple. As I said earlier, none us masoom except Allah and His messangers. Even messangers level masoom is restricted. They did not make mistakes with respect to the message of tawhid they brought. So therefore, average humans can never be masoom. We are bound to err or prone to sin. Otherwise there won't be difference btw Creator and creation. Even devils themselves make mistakes

Where does evil in human souls came from?

infused in us right in the womb

These are common questions isn't?.


You simply need tawil (interpretation) for better comprehension. The hadith doesn't in anyway meant to mean sins can not be committed. Rather means they are reduced and our soul elevated I:e close to God.

In another word, not all devils are chained but the strongest of them. We still commit sin due to bad behaviors and evil of our soul. We see some argue in the masjid over silly things like food during iftar. Some argue over misplaced of their shoes and they wanna pick up a fight. These are mini stuff. We are not masoom

Some may interpret "chain" literally but I don't buy that actually. It is actually means coercively restrained.

And Allah knows best

blackpanthers:
Southwest is already fixed, my wife is from Ilorin and goes there every year, the problem with people like you is you fail to read and understand history. History is an important tool that helps to forged one identity and help to project one view about the world.

If Nigeria were to disintegrate today, southwestern Nigeria will be the most developed, the most liberal, the region with the most educated populace, the region with city with the largest economy. Naturally, Kwara will want to be in that type of union, it is a simple economics, the majority of her inhabitant are working in Lagos, the majority of her trade her with other southwestern state tell me how they wouldn't want to be in that time of union.

The reality is Niger Delta oil is the only reason why people like saraki are still pushing that Northern thing and the Fulani tag, without oil money and with true federalism, the Ilorin elites will be begging to be in southwest

I don't think I ever disputed ilorin being Yorubaland.

blackpanthers:
I am a Muslim and I am strongly disappointed that people like you who are working zombies live among us.

what do you want to do now sir, anarchy?

There is a clear distinction between religion, ethnicity and political alignment. The Nigeria state configured to give some section of the country upper hand, they have mastered the use of this act to keep the nation poor and backward for years and actions like yours keep them on.

Again, what do you want to do now, start bombing ilorin to reclaim "Yoruba republic". And who told you there aren't crazy people in other cultures including Yoruba people keeping Nigeria backward?. Are Yoruba politicians and average Yoruba people aren't as corrupt as others?. You all corrupt.

The Emir of Ilorin is a reminder of an epic political mistake by the Yoruba nation, it is a symbol of imperial power in our land, no matter how Yorubanized he might have become he still represent the interest of the Fulani hegemony which is against the interest of the Yoruba nation.

I'm glad you said Yoruba themselves were part of the problem. So you gonna have to deal with it UNTIL this Emir dies God's death before anything. You all want anarchy on top of madness going on in the country?. Each state and each tribe is equally guilty of everything.

Nationhood transcends against religion that why in the Arabs are very tribal, tribal identity helps you yo build a nation that protects the interest of every member of the nation. My interest can ever be served by a Fulani man just because he is a Muslim, I am Yoruba first before my religion and they also see you first as Yoruba before your religion, that is why violence in the North affect Yoruba Muslim more than their Christian counterparts.

Ofc, they would have natural interest for themselves. That's normal. My concern in all of this is, is this priority at this time?. If war should break out in the name of regaining ilorin, I am sure all you keyboard warriors would flee. From my understanding Nigerian army are mostly Hausa-fulani and igbo by large percentage. So how you gonna deal with this crap that you can't finish when wahala breaks out?. I don't think there is national army with majority Yoruba. And sorry, I really don't buy the idea of culture thing save few.

I was born in the North and I have live among our so-called Muslim brother all my life, religion is more like a tool for political controls, the Fulanis knows that they are too few and the only rally factor that they can use to get people power is Islam but when they get that support do they serve the interest of the Muslim Ummah that gave them the power?

This is a whole new different topic

What they are interested in is power and they will be comfortable if you become a second-class citizen to them no matter how intelligent or good you are.

This is where Constitution comes in. Constitution must provide equal rights to all citizens but I know there will always be a hole. That's normal.

I will never lose my Yoruba identity for an inferior culture just because I am a Muslim. I am a proud Muslim and a very nationalistic Yoruba, my ancestor got Islam through a different means from the Fulanis, we were a different nation to Northern Nigeria before British brought us together in this fail nation, if my ancestor can fight the Fulanis over the control of our commonwealth, they will be rolling in their grave to see a slave like you defending their oppressor with all the power

Slave?. Me a slave?. Swear that all those ulama past and present felt they were under fulani colonial slave rule?. This is strange. I spent 4yrs in ilorin and I didn't even feel this slavery stuff you guys keep talking about. If you want to see slavery or occupation, go to Gaza. And did I hear you say inferior culture?. That's it. You guys feel you better than them. I thank God for the way I was brought up. We were detached from too many Yoruba cultural practices that go against Islam. Why would my grandpa dumped kingship style as practiced in Yorubland?. Yes, he did and preferred Emir type. He was next to ascend the throne but he was grounded in Islamic knowledge. By default, fvck culture in that sense. That's why my grandpa was happy I went to study in ilorin.

Let's stop deceiving ourselves. For as long as Yoruba people have Oba style as we know it, with all trash they do, hell no, a concious muslim will never accept Yoruba Oba. Isn't this what Islam says as well?. That's cultural practices that go against it must be snubbed?. Yes, I am muslim and I am Yoruba. I'm not a fulani slave. But if they cross my line, I will show them I am Yoruba man. I don't give a flying fvck about any cultures that are clear cut anti-my religion

This is why ilorin is preserved to be "ilu Alfa".

You want ilorin to kick out it's Emir, be prepared for violence in this peaceful city or wait patiently until he dies and then raise your concern. Anything other than this I will not be part of it. You all just looking for disorder or chaos in the city of ilorin.

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Moneywomen17:
@Empi.ree: all u just showed is u and ur friend are Fulani asslicker so none of my concern. What I care about is the inevitable revolt in ilorin that will send the Fulani emir packing. If u care so much about British indirect rule confront it just like this imam do and open people eyes to it. But Fulani packing from ilorin is a task that must be done despite the fact of people like u will try to resist it. So u are from ijebu but u just care so much about Fulani ruling ilorin so much u have Been defending them like crazy here. Ijebu has an awujale a Yoruba oba not an emir and so will ilorin too. Dumbass u are am claiming ijebu but u have been saying u Sw like crazy in this comment shouting Yoruba is coward. Nobody is fool by u dan fodio descendants u are only fooling urself. If u shout from now till tomorrow on nairaland it will never change anything that’s in own motion. And ilorin has chased away the emir before the British return him but now if he is chased away it’s final

Why are you upset though?.

Ilorin being majority Yoruba muslims, and emir who is supposedly fulani is not tyrannical. By revolting a leader in a relatively peaceful land, you are creating anarchy. If emir was tyrannical i can reason with you. But he is not. Since he is not, guess what, your opinion doesn't count. We have islamic injunctions from Quran and sunnah


Qur'an

O you who have believed(muslims), obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority among you. And if you disagree over anything, refer it to Allah and the Messenger, if you should believe in Allah and the Last Day. That is the best [way] and best in result. Q 4:59



Suuna

Ibn `Umar (May Allah be pleased with them) reported: The Prophet (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, “It is obligatory upon a Muslim to listen (to the ruler) and obey whether he likes it or not, except when he is ordered to do a sinful thing; in such case, there is no obligation to listen or to obey.”
[Al-Bukhari and Muslim].


Whether you are muslim or not is not important. Majority of ilorin people are muslims. Hence, they have obligation not to rebel. This doesn't mean they are buttlickers damnit. What you say is irrelevant. Now, look at the second quotation up there which says unless ruler violates rights of God and the people. Emir of Ilorin had never debar people from thier God-given freedom nor is he tyrannical. If he was he would be gone long ago. ilorin is peaceful why would you expect muslims to rebel him for ethical reason?. Guess what, any muslim who participates in that will regret big time. You may not believe in islam but these two quotes up there dont recognize ethnicity or nationality in their context.



Now look at this hadith too


Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported: The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu ’alayhi wa sallam) said, “Hear and obey even if an Abyssinian slave whose head is like a raisin is placed in authority over you.” [Al-Bukhari].



Again, you dont have to believe this because you are not muslim but i am telling you that muslims have obligation. A muslim should not fight a war obase on nationalism or ethnicity. It is a wrong war and you pay the price. You consider Fulani inferior to Yoruba, bcus in your view you are westernized. This last quote up there trashes that. The last quote simply tells you even if a poor inferior person is made a king over you regardless of his background, you should obey him for as long as he obeys God and he is not tyrannical to his people. Please kindly point out evil done by this current Emir of ilorin and let's scrutinize that. Thank you. Now you may wanna bring up Israeli/palestinian as to why we support palestinian who are "in the same situation" like ilorin. Answer to this is simple. Israel is tyrannical and killing till now. Emir of ilorin is not doing that.

You can only dream of taking back ilorin from Fulani for now until Emir transits to a great beyond. Until then, you live on dreamland, buddy

Moneywomen17:
u talk about British indirect rule. But if Nigeria try to break free from this rule will it be wrong.

Good. I am glad you said this. Now, how is a divided house within itself wanna confront external forces?. You have lots of internal bickering was the reason the British succeeded and the reason you still subservient to them. By the way, why did you mention Nigeria?. I thought you wanted Odúdúwá Republic?. See see see that?. Whether you are Arewa, Odúdúwá or Biafra, that doesn't concern the British. These tribes mentioned are all slaves to them. So how you gonna break away from their indirect rule when you hate one another?. How you gonna break their indirect rule when you guys are instigating anarchy in ilorin?. Think buddy.

So why are u screaming about the people who don’t want Fulani rule.

said who?. If majority of ilorin people don't want fulani, fulani would be gone long ago. Islam is their bond buddy. I communicate with citizens of ilorin severally on WhatsApp. Take a look at what he said yesterday in the first attachments.

And u are fooling no one u are Fulani

kikikikikiki... Let me show my brown teeth you don become mind reader?. I am under no obligation to convince you otherwise. Mimicking Toyin Aimakhu, I am Yoruba man to the core born and bred in SW state to Awujale of Ijebuland why do you think a Yoruba man can't disagree with you on this?

we know u are just scared of what will happen when the Yoruba of ilorin wake up just like they have did twice before in history

I thought you said they already 'woke up'. You confused

Buddy, you can't do anything.

The 3rd picture is what you should fight to fix ✌️ at home and abroad

^^^

You two above me, what exactly have you contributed that could match this young Alfa other than irrational hatred?. Can you two show us what you have achieved or contributed to the development of Muslims in Yorubland?. I watched this young man's lectures randomly and I have nothing against him.

When you were at his age, did you have such knowledge he has?. The boy is naturally gifted and you are jealous of that? You don't see anything good in anyone who differs with you.

Smh

myobjective:
You are too ignorant to understand the effect of your line of reasoning. Slavery is a mental block that is been perpetrated by religion, one can be mentally enslaved without chains like you, Islam doesn't mean you should lose control of one homeland to a foreign invader and all these lame excuses doesn't hold any water.

The Fulani only uses religion as a means of political control, It has been exhibited in many parts of Northern Nigeria, religion is just a means to an end for them, gullible people like you buy into that senseless blackmail and lies that Nigeria cultural practice is not compatible to Islam.

you guys keep talking about slavery but yet you are still under British colonial rule indirectly.

Who told you Muslims in ilorin and ilorin generally claimed to be under slavery right now?. In this fragile Nigeria you guys want to compound more problems. Abeg, go and do the fight alone with the fulani. You need to worry about bigger issues in Nigeria now not this one. We know for sure Yoruba are cowards people. You only get mouth to cause trouble. If war starts now, you gonna back off and betray your fellow Yorubas. And then a total distraction from common problems plaguing the country are ignored. Nigeria is one damn it.

Fix the SW before agitating crap.

kayfra:
أنت أحمق فولاني الرقيق

. وانت ايضا

MY CANDID OPINION & RESPONSE to the utterances of the person who calls himself the Chief Imam of "Yoruba General"

By LUKMAN IMAM



1. Apart from the very valid point of the dominance of the Fulanis in some areas which originally belonged to the Yorubas, his utterances are false and mischievously misleading. Am not aware of, and certainly, there is NO person in Ilorin or Kwara State known as the Chief Imam of Yorubas. Neither in Ilorin nor in any part of Kwara State there is any particular mosque for the Yorubas and any other mosque (s) for non - Yorubas.




2. On the dominance of the Fulanis, there is little or nothing anybody can do about it. Sheikh Alimi came with Islam and the entire Ilorin indigenes (made up of Yorubas, Nupes, Kannikes, Barubas, Gobiris and Fulanis) accepted the religion. Though, there are 6 ethnic groups in Ilorin, Islam remains the unifying factor and they are ALL always ready to defend the ILORIN EMIRATE which they see as a symbol of Islam. That is why it has always been extremely difficult to sell the idea of an "Oba" in place of the Emir to an average Ilorin man. Contrary to his false claim, there is the position of Amir امير in Islam. Amir means leader. It is pronounced as "Emir" in this part of the world. In Saudi Arabia, the over all head is called "King", while the head of each city is known as "Amir". For example, Amir Mecca. The over all head of Oman, an Arab nation, is called Amir. The leader of Brunel, a very rich Muslim nation, is called Sultan. The popular Sultan of Brunel. The self acclaimed Chief Imam is an ignoramus, publicly celebrating his ignorance.




3. The progenitor of the Yorubas in Ilorin, Afonja, an Oyo native, betrayed his master, Alaafin, who appointed him to govern Ilorin. He became power drunk and wanted to be autonomous. He sought the assistance of the Fulanis and defeated the Oyo army. He later went into war with the Fulanis over political control of Ilorin, but he was defeated. For about 210 years now, the Fulanis have been in control and asking them to go now is an almost impossible task. It is like asking the white citizens of South Africa to leave after about 190 years of existence in the country. So, the Yorubas should blame their father, Afonja, for his treacherous act against his land, Oyo.




4. The man who claims to be the Chief Imam of Yoruba land is a miseducated and mischievous ignoramus. Contrary to his claims, his utterances are obvious signs that he is not well grounded in Arabic Language. His Arabic utterances in the video contain some unpardonable grammatical irregularities. 9 years in Saudi Arabia indeed !!!





5. His mischievous interpretations of names like Hajara, Muftau, Wasila and Mistura further exhibit his shallow knowledge of Arabic Language and little understanding of Islam. A self acclaimed "Chief Imam" who does not know proper meanings of common Muslim names.




6. Hajar literarily means stone. However, in Islam a person is named Hajar in honour of Hajar Alaswad, the precious black stone at Ka'abah, the holy building of Islam in Mecca. So, it is not an ordinary stone.




7. Muftau means key. In Islam, a person is named Muftau which is the short form of مفتاح النور Muftau Noor meaning, the key to light, or مفتاح الهدى Muftau Lihuda meaning, the key to guidance, or مفتاح الجنة Muftau Lijannat meaning, the key to paradise, all of which are some of the attributes and names of Prophet Muhammad (SAW).




8. Waseelat وسيلة gramatically means a means or medium to get to one's destination, the way or the path to get to or attain one's goal or ambition. In Islam, a person is named Waseelat which is the short form of Waseelat Likhair meaning, the way to goodness or the means to success. Yorubas call it Wosila just as they call Gabriel, Gebu and Samuel, Saamu. The self acclaimed "Chief Imam" has mischievously interpreted the name Waseelat to mean ladder because it is also a means to get to a particular place.




9. Mistura مسطرة means ruler, scale, measurement etc. In Islam, a person is named Mistura meaning the straight path just like ruler which is equally straight. The miseducated fellow has mischievously interpreted the name Mistura to mean an ordinary ruler which students use to draw lines.




10. Apata, which ordinarily means rock, is a popular family name in Yoruba land. It will be mischievous of anybody to state that a Yoruba man names his child "stone or rock", because the intended meaning is "as solid and reliable as rock".




11. Ekun, which means tiger, is a famous family name in Ibadan, while Kekere-Ekun, which means small tiger, is a famous family name in Lagos. When a person is referred to or called Ekun, tiger, it means he is brave, audacious and adventurous. It will be mischievous of me to call that person an animal, because Ekun is an animal.




12. Some people bear the name Okin, peacock, as a result of beauty. Should they be called birds ?!! Most Ijebus and Egbas have surnames like Soyinka, Sholarin, Shotimehin, Soleye. In Yoruba Language, Osho means a wizard (a male witch). But among the Ijebus and Egbas, Osho is regarded as a brave warrior. Erinfolami is the surnames of some families in Yoruba land. One of my family's praises is " Omo Erin" which means "the child of elephant". It doesn't mean an elephant gave birth to me. Elephant symbolizes strength, courage, ruggedness and invincibility. It means, that person can not be easily conquered, over powered or dominated. The elephant is the logo of First Bank...Big, Strong and Reliable.




13. The surname of my English Language teacher in Secondary School, an Indian, is Kwarjah, which means lion in his native Hindi language. Should we call him the son of an animal ??




14. As a student of Arabic Language, an Ilorin indigene and most importantly, as a Muslim, I have painstakingly taken my time to analyse the video in order to put the records straight and correct the wrong impressions the misleading utterances of the mischievous self acclaimed "scholar" might have created, particularly concerning some Muslim names.




15. Finally, two things are certain:

i) He is an ignorant fellow
OR
ii) He is being sponsored or he is deliberately being mischievous in order to cause anarchy and civil disturbances.

Whatever his devilish intention, I have nothing to say, except :

ومكروا ومكر الله والله خير الماكرين

LUKMAN IMAM
Ikeja Lagos, Nigeria
7th May, 2018

Demmzy15:
No wonder you're like this, you don't think beyond politics. This is why Saudi Arabia despite the good they're still doing for the Ummah are giving you nightmares.

Alhamdulillah, you keep revealing yourself everyday

Lord have mercy. What's Saudi got to do with this for crying out loud?.

What kind of reasoning you people have?. Three of you that commented on this post made no sense at all.

Very simple post you don't comprehend.

AbdelKabir:
Talking with an ignoramus is a waste of time when that ignoramus thinks he knows. And by the way I didn't read that Wallaahi...

since you didn't read my post that's evidence against you

Fundamentalist:
You mean people on the other side like you

smh

Moneywomen17:
the question is an hypothetical question a Yoruba Muslim with no “nasty” over over a Fulani emir no violence or anarchy nothing and will be installed when the current emir is dead yes or no. I just want yes or no

You too is placed in my recycle bin. You guys are machineries. You want chaos in ilorin in the name of preserving yoruba culture which you yourselves are losing to Western lifestyle. Having read this post and previous one shows you are bending your knees gradually.


If current one dies, you simply select qualified people and pick the MOST qualified one among them. I will be so glad if you guys are arrested for disorderly conduct if you people try to overthrow a legitimate Emir of ilorin. ilorites never said to you they are Fulani stooges.

kayfra:
You've exposed yourself. Dont have time to go back and forth with a Fulani pretending to be Yoruba.

I just put you in a permanent state of shut up. You guys are undercover machineries. You want chaotic ilorin

Moneywomen17:
so ur answer is no

I am sure you understood me well. Are you supporting anachy?

Fundamentalist:
Your belief that Allah is everywhere and in everything , Is against tawheed Mr empi.ree

can you quote me and besides, those who believe this have their valid argument which you refused to understand.

Both sides have consequences if they are taken literally unless they are understood within the boundaries of Sharia.

So abeg you, quote me where I made such claim so I can look into the context?.

Moneywomen17:
@Empiree: my guy u don sleep answer the question now u dey form Jackie chan in this comment since yesterday and just one yes or no answer u run comot

You think I live my life on NL?. I have a lot to do outside of NL. So don't get too excited

kayfra:
Will you support the removal of a Fulani Emir and the installation of a culturally neutral Yoruba Oba in his rightful throne?

"removal" denotes impeechment. There must be due process to go through to achieve this.

First all, the same traditional laws guiding typical oba in Yorubaland guides Emir too. That's, you can not remove emir without due process. Like either emir dies and then you install Yoruba man. Or emir violates conditions to retain his Emirship leading to dismissal.

You can't just claim because he's fulani, therefore you want to remove him. That's very silly. Doesn't work like that.

Now from Islamic point of view, we can not rebel a leader without a just cause. To remove a leader in Islam, the leader must have openly violated right of Sharia law and right of the people.

Is Emir of ilorin guilty of this?. It is up to you prove it. If you can establish the fact that he abused his position I can look into that but I'm not supporting his removal solely because he's fulani. That's calling for anachy in the city of ilorin.

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