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emekaRaj:
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Another question is, does the "catcher" (not raqi) gets physically weak when the Jinns come around her during conversation with raqi and what is the state of the 'catcher' during Jinn conversation with raqi, is she aware of the conversation?.

Other question is, is "catching" jinn also used to "cure" victim of jinn possession?.

emekaRaj:
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@emekaraj, it means (in my opinion) that whoever is 'cured' of jinn possession is still vulnerable due to the open part that link the jinn. Possibility exist they may be repossessed in the future. How would they be cured completely without them returning to the person?.

[quote author=BetaThings post=64781849][/quote]you dey look for trouble with our Shia brother

emekaRaj:
I just like the part where the Christian jinn was shock to find out Christianity is darkness as she receive the light of Islam. She also realizes on her own without been told that Jesus is not the son of God. After she claimed he was.

and see how simple the "debate" went to convince Christian jinn. But it will take a lot more effort to convince Christian human. ACADIP comes to mind we gotta pile up bunch of Bibles and quotations to convince them and crook ones amongst them will twist and drag the debate

Raintaker:
Hmm
Allahu Akbar, this world is beyond the physical.

I wouldn't have believed if someone very close have not had the same spiritual experiences.
In fact people with the experiences keep it within themselves because of the nay Sayers.
I just love the way the sheikh was dealing with the Jinns in that video and I believe the woman he used as the catcher was also his wife or a close relative.

Before becoming a raqi must one be a Quran Hafiz?
It seems one has to be a Quran Hafiz before venturing into this looking at the way the raqi was replying those Jinns with appropriate verses of the Quran.

you noticed how he responds with appropriate verses to them. That shows raqi must be able to not just recite but memorize and be able to extract verses in a blink.

@bold is what it used to be. Because everything is now out in the open is the reason some Muslims think practices like these are outside of Islam. It was always part of Islam.

LORD HAVE MERCY. CHAI, THIS ONE TIRE ME OOO



How l found out I’m not the the father of my 4 children after 22 years of marriage

He’s a 52 year old civil engineer. And his wife, a pharmacist, 50, both raised four children – 21, 19, 16 and 13.

The couple met in 1993, and married in 1995. And raised their four children to the best of their abilities with all the resources at their disposal… Until October 2017.

That’s when he discovered that all four are not his biological children! After DNA tests at HumGene Ltd in Lagos proved that he’s not in anyway related to the children that meant the world to him.

Here’s the distraught father’s narration of how his world collapsed…

This is my story:

On the 20th of September 2017, my 3rd child who happens to be a female was critically ill in the hospital and the doctor informed us that she needs an urgent blood transfusion.

My wife and I were in the hospital and we both decided to have our blood tested in other to know who has the same blood group with our daughter. But to our surprise when the result came out, we were informed that none of us has the same blood group with our daughter. We had to find a way out as soon as possible.

Fortunately for us, our first son came and he happened to be a match. I was innocent about the whole thing because I didn’t know the implication of a child not matching either of the parent’s blood group. After the whole thing was taken care of, the doctor called me in privately to ask if I was the real father of my own daughter. At first, I was furious but I calmed down and answered him by saying, “Of course, why would you be asking me such question?”

He went ahead to explain how a child can have either the mother’s or father’s blood group. I was confused and I asked him what he was trying to tell me. And he said it’s either I’m not the father of the child or my wife is not the mother because one of us is supposed to match. But since none is a match there is a problem. I didn’t take it seriously because it was sounding odd to me. When I informed my wife about it, her answer was, “Don’t mind that stupid doctor.”

After 3 days, our daughter was discharged from the hospital. My mind was no longer at rest because I didn’t know what to do. I went back to the doctor and asked for advice on what I should do. He told me that if I wanted to be sure of everything, I should have a paternity test done on my daughter. When he mentioned that to me, I almost collapsed because I know what that means. It was too much for me to handle. But I had to be a man and face whatever is about to happen. I asked him if I should do the same thing for the remaining 3. He told me that will be a good idea if I can afford it.

I decided to take the bold step even though it was not easy. I asked him if he has an idea of where I can carry out the test here in Lagos and the cost. He advised me of 2 places and their prices. Coincidentally, a friend of mine told me that he saw an advert on Facebook about a company known as HumGene Limited, that they offer the cheapest DNA Paternity test in Nigeria. I quickly called the number they put on the advert and I spoke with the CEO of the company just to confirm if it’s actually true. She was nice and helpful and booked an appointment for me to come in with my 4 children in order to take samples from us. I asked her how accurate the result can be, and she said 99.99% if am the father and 0% if am not the father.

When we all arrived at her office, she told me to come in alone. She asked me for my story and if I was ready for this because the result could be either way and especially 4 children involved, the eldest is 21 years old. At first, I was scared and she asked me if I wanted to take time to think about it before making the decision. I was surprised and asked her if she doesn’t want money. She smiled and answered me by saying: “ Sir, it’s not just all about the money, I think of my clients’ psychological well being first.”

I had to be a man and I told her I was ready. I asked her when the result will be ready and she said 5 working days because she is yet to start the analysis in Nigeria. So, for now, she sends the samples to her partner company in Canada.

The waiting period seemed like a hundred years to me. When the results came in, she called me to come in for them. I was scared but at the same time, I wanted to know the truth. When I got to her office, counselling began even before giving me the results, I just knew the worst has happened but I didn’t expect it to be all my children that I have laboured for all my life, giving them the best in life. But unfortunately for me when I opened the results all the 4 children were not mine. 3 sons and 1 daughter. I couldn’t hold it as a man, I broke down in tears.

At first, I taught I was dreaming and waiting to wake up from sleep. The trauma was too much for me.

When I got home, I called my wife to the bedroom immediately and gave her the results. She denied everything. I wanted to believe her to make myself happy. I went ahead to call the CEO of HumGene Limited to ask her if she was sure about the result. I spoke with her with an angry tone, but she was calm and told me she is very sure and referred me to other places I can try doing another test. She informed me that although the prices are higher.

I didn’t know what to do and I went to the doctor that advised me to go for the paternity test. When he saw the results, he told me this can’t be a mistake because DNA does not lie and that the 22 loci region is the highest in the Paternity test. I felt more convinced and went back home. I told my wife that if she does not tell me the truth I will go ahead to our church pastor and show them the result. After hearing me say that, she broke down into tears and confession started.

She had all my supposed to be children for the same man. That was why our son had same blood group with the sister. She has refused to tell me the man and the reason why she did what she did.

We are yet to tell the children and our family members. I’m in great shock and don’t know where to start from.

The CEO of HumGene Limited has been of great help taking her time to counsel me anytime I needed that. I need advise. Please, what should I do? Men out there you need to be vigilant.


Here is a short interview with the civil engineer…

Were you always travelling when the children were conceived?

I was travelling a lot, but the maximum time I spend out of the house is 2 weeks. I do not keep track of when my wife gets pregnant.



Do you know the father of your ‘children’?

No, my wife is holding on to that.



Can you have babies?

I have never doubted that. So, I didn’t have any reason to check if I’m medically okay to have children.But I do not feel any abnormality in himself. I will go for a test to check, but I’m not in the right state of mind now.



What do you do? And your wife?

I’m a Civil Engineer, my wife is a pharmacist.



Why are you still living with her?

I am no longer living in the house now, I’m staying in the hotel.



When were the tests done?

Samples were submitted on the 3rd of October 2017 and results received on the 10th of October 2017.



What did you tell the children when the tests were done?

We told them they were going for a general checkup for genetic testing since HumGene Limited offers the services for that.



What kind of samples were taken?

Buccal Swabs.



Were the children not curious?

Not at all. We didn’t give them any reason to be curious.



Who have you told about the result?

Only my wife and the Doctor that suggested the test.



What’s your wife saying?

Just crying as usual and refused to tell me the reason behind her actions, I moved out the next day because I don’t want to be in the same house with her. The more I see her, the angrier I get, and I don’t want it to lead to something I will regret.



Are you not scared for your life?

I’m not, but this question is now making me think if I should be scared, I can’t think straight right now.



What do you want to do now?

To be honest with you, I’m yet to come to a decision. It’s very difficult. I have worked so hard to give the children the best anyone can imagine giving to their children.



How much did the tests cost?

For myself and one child, it was ₦60,000.00 and an extra child was ₦40,000. In total, I paid ₦180,000 for myself and the 4 children.



Blood group: Husband (A), wife (AB), first child (O+), second (B+), third (O+), fourth (B+)

COPIED!

Quran verses are so effective on them than human. I think kufar jinn will have double punishments on qiyama than human because they have tools and luxury to believe faster than human and the effects of Quran on them.

Walahu alam

LOL.

Biyonze:
.Seen U Inside spiritua Son And Body SoN Which One Is True khaliph?l

I am definitely not in position to answer that. Committee in charge takes care of that. I do know that biological son is not always the only heir

basugar441:
Its worth the whole ISLAM section

You guys simply have no knowledge. You have no idea what this thread was all about. You have no meaningful contributions. Therefore, it is really a waste of time talking to you guys. You aren't here to learn. I am sure "Jinn catching " means physically catching the jinn to you. That's what y'all thought. shame of you.

Biyonze:
This Is A Man Who His Next After Shaykh IBRAHIM NIYAS, Has A gaothu z zaman(shaykh bashir modawa)khalepha shaykh jamiu bulala.he his a spiritual son of shaykh jamiu bulala(amiru l aoliyah)

Someone disagrees

Well, i guess you mean "spiritual son" which could mean he studied under Sheikh Bulala.

emekaRaj:
Had I know u didn't get d jinn catching earlier, I would have send u some videos so u can watch, even the one about the pious man dat pple goto to his grave to ask for help. I was going to explain it but dis boys diverting my attention.

About a human possessing a human, it's the soul of those witches dat possess their victim. In dis case we recite the verse of the beast, and he will come and kill this souls.

In the video did u see wen iblis came their with his army but was powerless to do anything.

If u like it I will be posting more links for u to watch

Pls do. I have all the DATA in my hands. Time is all i need. Yes, i got that blis part. and i like when he asked: "are you still there?" and there was a brief silence indicating they all gone before the sister tried to unveil her hijab. Please kindly disregard those roaches and post whatever. There was even a salafi man who had 2hrs long conversation with jinn and Jinn told him lots of things. This is on youtube. I enjoyed that few yrs ago too

Raintaker:
Fundamentalust and his cohorts only Allah knows what you do in the corner of your rooms,

I essentially love the way you typed his moniker, even if it was typo error. He is indeed "LUST"

Fundamentalist:
We don't have "anough " data to watch

I rather use that data for for something better

Thats it. You are enemy of what you dont know

iamgenius:
E.mpiree, your BID'AH is worth another thread.

You didnt answer this.

emekaRaj:
Pls tell me what empir.ee has invented I will like to learn if it makes sense.

emekaRaj:
@ emp.iree did u see how they disappeared, I told u they dnt have anough data.

Instead of them to listen, ask questions and learn b4 they put up their arguments, they will just come and be shouting BID'AH without understanding d topic

That's amazing. I really like where he raised his hands and Allah "Ya Allah, show them the Muslim army of Jinn". She was amazed. That i called "sitting ovation" When raqi beseeched Allah to show them muslim army of Jinn is like UNVEILING reality to the kufar Jinns. They probably didnt know there are many muslim jinn of their likes just like some non-muslims don't know muslims are over a billion

Now what i am not clear about yet is how the sister used and those kufar jinns came. I know you explained this before but i need clarification again. I have never seen that before. I just watched the video yrs ago without paying attention

@emekaraj,

This is interesting. I watched the clip yrs ago as i said earlier but i didnt understand at that time or simply did not attention. Now i really enjoyed it how he "catches" them.

You seemed to explain it really nice earlier. I think you need to ignore these brothers. They are not here to learn. They place themselves in the position of the only ones that are righteous and the only ones on siratal mustaqim. I understand the "catching jinn" better with the video.

The brothers think "catching" means hide and seek and holding Jinns in your hands, bottle, plastic etc. In another word, physically restraining or tying them down. This is clearly metaphoric. Correct me if i am wrong. I have said earlier that they focused too much on external observation rather than internal reality.

The one i was talking about earlier was where human possessed another human being. That's what Sheikh Akindele experienced. He said he never seen that before. And he asked the woman why she possessed the young lady. She said she offended her. Sheikh said to her that she was lying that she is human. That she is jinn. She denied. She said she is human and even gave descriptions of her neighborhood and residence. That she possesses another human and she would not forgive the lady. This sheikh is salafi man. Now will these arrogant brothers call sheikh Akindele "innovator" and urge him to bring dalil?. Experience or haqiqa surpasses reading text mechanically.

Fundamentalist:
We're so rijid against falsehood and innovation.

I'm Happy with that

what's the innovation?. Do you even understand this thread at all?. Let me simply help you. Jinn catching", is same appearance with normal ruqya. The difference here is what emekaraj explained earlier when i talked about sheikh Akindele. Your form of ruqya however involved beating the victims and spraying water on them and some of them die in the process. Thats sunnah too right?. So i ask again, whats innovation here?. You guys have serious problems with language barrier and comprehension. I have long knew that. This is why i said you are rigid.

emekaRaj:
LOL student.... Go and face ur studies boy

they think you mean "catching" is my holding jinn physically in your hands like running after chicken in order to "catch" it. If they watch the first 13 mins of the vid, they should understand. They are so rigid. I have watched this clip yrs ago

emekaRaj:
I know most of u dat disturb online dnt have data

basugar441:
Mechanically?

Does the Qur'an have esoteric meaning ni. Apart from the Tafseer that Scholars have done due to the understanding of the Salaf, are there things in the Qur'an that only some people understand or have knowledge of.

inna lilahi waina ilahi rojiun

You mind them? ^^^^

They only read religious text mechanically. They still have my question from 3yrs ago unanswered in "Jinn Stories" thread about similar thing. None of them answered.

Fundamentalist:
They believe in hidden knowledge

As for empi.ree that guy is something else his second name is baid'ah . After alb.aqir , I haven't seen a strong innovator like him

why are you calling him?. Looking for trouble?. You love derailing, isn't?

Fundamentalist:
Opportunity in liaising with jinns

Is that allowed in Islam

what's wrong with you bro?. Why are you full of assumptions and suspicions?. Didn't the prophet (saw) warn you of this shameful habit?

liaising kó, liassumption nì

basugar441:
Trust me, i now have time for these people that are just so eager to invent lies in the deen. I have always been following the Islamic section ever since i knew it was active. I was very amused reading emekaraj's comment where he talked about jinn catching..... just sit down in one place and start concocting lies....

#iro_lasan

everything you see or read is not always as it seems to be. You guys focused too much only on external observations. You failed to realized internal reality. You can as well say seeing them is also fallacy just bcus Hadith says they see us where we can't see them, right?. Yoruba people say Airinjina ni airi abuke okéré

I don't understand how this is a lie when you see traces in history. Anyways, I would discourage anyone to go around "catching" them for biz stuff.

Fundamentalist:
After all the English I was expecting a hadeeth to support your claims but you fell short .

How a mighty thinking

hummm, no. You are the one jumping to conclusion. Your were supposed to have answered his first question with evidence but you failed to do that. So why are you asking me for a prove now?. It seems you don't really understand what the opportunity is about.

Fundamentalist:
I was thinking I was the only anti progressive on this section

I'm happy others are seeing garbage been typed in the name exorcism

I don't get what your problem. Shariah is standard by which a practice is judge. Not your whim. Help yourself.

http://ruqyatreatment.com/jinn-catching/

EgunMogaji:
I’ll look up my receipt when I get out of bed.

I used Nigerian tile throughout my project.

your house in the pics?

Emmytes:
It makes no sense arguing with this fanatics, leave them to their ignorance.

The brain washing is sewed inside the fabrics of their heart. It takes self realization to step out from the illusion. I was once a staunch religionist until my eyes became open and I saw beneath the lies and deceit.

Im never going down that road again.

what are you now?

I guess you too can also claim "Crawling Lobster Monster" is your 'God', humm?