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Islam › Re: Islam And Spirituality by Empiree: 9:24pm On Jan 25, 2018*

Yes, muslims trying hard to ignore this fact. I have said here time and again the implication of abandoning Islamic spirituality or ihsan. Sheikh Imran Hosein better explains Islamic spirituality in all of his lectures. There are forces amongst the muslims who are trying harder everyday to bury Islamic spirituality or take it out of Islam. Islamic spirituality is what is termed "sufism" and it is in the Qur'an.

Unfortunately, we also have some people who are in fact deviated from Islamic spirituality as we know it and have adopted shayateen spiritual path. Islamic spirituality also known as mysticism in Islam, is now seen as outlandish practices. If you noticed, i have always talked about it but some ulama reject the idea of it probably because of some people misapplication of it. That's not excuse by the way.

Yes, Shaytan and his men are working tirelessly to divide muslims while muslims are busy eating kuli kuli. Right now, they are inventing another currency which i and some muslims have known beforehand. This currency (bitcoin) is meant to enslave people just like paper money. Brace for worse. A brother once said in a thread last year that "when we(northern nigeria) used to do dhikr together, there was nothing like BH. But the moment we abandoned it, BH and all types of vices crept in." There are indeed a lot going on in spiritual realm. We are so heedless.

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Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Meet New Cool People And Just Make Friends by Empiree: 6:13pm On Jan 25, 2018

Raintaker:
Lol
True the building is on a mountain top, next two his house is his son's on that same mountain top.

chai, smart guy. IBB was always smart. He knew by the time hoodlums storm his mansion, before they reach mountain top, Army go thwart their ploy. Remember he was called "maradona" in his young days.

Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Meet New Cool People And Just Make Friends by Empiree: 5:58pm On Jan 25, 2018

Raintaker:
I wouldn't call it remote, it's actually a state capital fa but definitely not a mega city.
About the security, I heard petty crimes are rampant.
I had to ask some people and I was told majority of the inhabitants are Abuja workers and they only come back to the city in the evening.

despite being a quiet city the still have crimes shocked

you better move close to IBB. i heard his "holy" mansion is in Minna cheesy

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 4:25pm On Jan 25, 2018

tintingz:
Oh really, Allah work with Satan or what, I don't understand?

If Satan is not Independent of power, how then Allah cannot stop Satan?

I'm not a perfect human, humans are not perfection of any God, if you read my response to Sino, you will get why both God and humans are not perfect.

I'm not perfect because I wish we could fly like birds and travel freely, a perfect all-knowing God should know what humans perfectly need.

Evolution is also a tool of an imperfect God.

Empty talk, Allah should end natural disasters and Satan first, then I will take Allah serious.

It's not late to accept Flying spaghetti monster as your God and creator, it's not too late, don't be blind to see the truth before you.

Yes who else?, Almighty Flying spaghetti monster is the one true God, you better turn the true God and repent.

I have seen more reason to press IGNORE button NOW shocked

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 3:19pm On Jan 25, 2018*

As I have said before, this argument will continue back n forth to no avail.

tintingz:
Satan also help people with money and wealth.

you have lost sense of reasoning. Even if Satan helps people with wealth and money, we know the source is always questionable and consequences follow, either on this planet or Afterlife.

Besides, it is not really Satan that gives wealth. All risq come from Allah. Channels may be different. Satan doesn't have independent power to give.

The fact that people claim God is a all perfect, good and moral is false, he is actually both malevolent and benevolent.

as always, your opinion. Yourself is evidence of perfection of God. Your problem is, you are ungrateful and Allah speaks of ungrateful people and consequences of their ungratefulness.

The messenger of ALLAH, the Prophet MUHAMMAD, peace and blessings be upon him, said,

'Allah says:

*- Oh you My creature, I gave you a place in the womb

*- I covered your face with a veil so that you do not be scared

*- I turned your face towards the back of your mother so that the smell of food does not bother you

*- I've put a support to your right and to your left a support to protect you

*- To your right the liver and spleen to your left

*- I taught you to stand and sit in the womb

*- Is there someone in the world who can do such things for you?

*- When you arrive at the end of your life

*- I will send the Angel of Death to welcome you

*- He will host a feather wings

*- You do not have teeth to eat, feet to walk

*- To feed you, I put you two thin veins in the breasts of your mother

*- Milk just for you, cold in summer and warm in winter

*- If you do not sleep, your mother does not sleep

*- If you do not eat, your mother does not eat!

After you have become a strong man, you start to deny me, and you experienced no discomfort in front of me

*- Despite this, if you ask me, I give you

*- If you invoke, I hear you
*- And if you repent, I accept your repentance

*- What do you want better than that??*

See highlighted part CLEARLY describes you. But it is not too late as the statement says if you repent now. So you are ungrateful after you grew up, you started worship Spaghetti shocked

What a shame!

Flying Spaghetti was the one taken care of you in your mom's womb?. You are very funny.

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Dating And Meet-up Zone › Re: Meet New Cool People And Just Make Friends by Empiree: 1:05pm On Jan 25, 2018

Raintaker:
Hello everybody.
I don't need friends, I just want to know if there are people living in Minna.
I just moved into the city and the place looks like a ghost town.

I like environment like that cool

that's Peace of mind and security. I hate megacity. That's fast paced

Sounds like remote countryside

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 12:21pm On Jan 25, 2018

tintingz:
* Evil
profoundly immoral and wicked.

* On what premise

- That God created the devil Satan and can't put stop to what he created.

- That God created natural disasters and can't do nothing about it

I asked why did God want this,

Sino said People affected by Natural disasters had to die, that God has a plan and paradise is part of it, because it's a test

Emp.iree said, natural disasters is a test.

And I react, why is God using evil to test people, how is God different from Satan in this case, is God malevolent?

God tests people with money and wealth as well. How about that?.

Once again, you are being tested but you have failed

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Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 10:01pm On Jan 24, 2018

^^^

What you are doing isn't new, and you not gonna be the last either. This just gonna keep going on in cycle

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 9:59pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
I won't reject it as long as it's not dependent on your book only.

I told you FSM exist, you ask for evidence, I said the book of Pastafarianism said FSM exist, you ask how, I said because I believe in the divinity of the book, you ask again show me the evidence, I told you FSM exist because the holy book said so.

Will you believe at above statement? That's how absurd you and your fellows sound.

Lakum deenukum waluyadeen. Simple, isn't?

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 6:57pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
Show me an independent evidence not from the same book that claim to be true.

Show me historical evidence Islam is the first religion.

@embolden is funny, Islam is also bound to perish according to Christianity, Judaism. Religion superiority is the problem of this world.

Empiree:
even if evidence is presented to you, you will still reject it. Case close.

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 5:46pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
No one knows about Islam from the beginning until 1400 years ago.

Stop the false claim and false history you muslim use to authenticate your religion, there's no evidence to back that up.

You have no reasonable counterclaim. So your case is closed. @bold, even if evidence is presented to you, you will still reject it. Case close.

One God

One religion

One message - Islam

All other rivals are bound to perish angry

It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad SAW) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam), to make it superior over all religions even though the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it). Q9:33

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 4:35pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
Let me make you reason.

Pastafarianism was founded 2005 and was later recognize as a religion.

Now let's delve into Islam.

Islam was founded 1400 years ago, was Islam recognized at first? It took war and treaties before Islam could be recognized as a religion in Mecca, did Muhammad Allah started existing 1400 years ago? What about the existing religions before Islam surface?

Do you believe a religion must be ancient/archaic before it can be called a religion or be the true religion?

If you can't see the irrationality in your post, I will help you out.

sorry, buddy. Islam was always there from the beginning of time with Adam. Perfected by nabi Ibrahim (as). Completed by nabi Muhammad (saw)

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 3:58pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
Your absurdity is getting alarming.

You said Pastafarianism was created 4 years ago, 2005 is 4 years ago? Your fallacy and lies you're desperately trying to promote your false agenda will not work in FSM name, Ramen.

this is what i said in the other thread. Here is the screenshot again.

Anyways, 2005 or 4 yrs ago, what sense does it make huh

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 3:31pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
ut. D

this is the nonsense you believe in. Why is son of Africa, who supposedly be wise and smarter fell victim of this trash shocked

Satarical is what we called "ere ómódé". I guess you believe cow jump off the moon too.

#yeyeman

Islam › Re: Wants To Invite An Atheist To Islam by Empiree: 3:17pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
And that Pastafarianism was created 4 years ago is what I don't get, where did you read that from?

Empir.ee should come and tell where he got this information from.

your so called "Almighty God" FSM is simply satarical made up a physics student. Flying Spaghetti ko, flying noodles ní .

And i have told you it is a tiny branch of Christianity that formed this nonsense. It came up as a joke, and then they trying to sound real. You notice the spaghetti thing has two "balls", a meatball looking figure "roosted" with spaghetti looking trash was a way of saying "my church got balls than yours". And you foolishly believe this trash is God?.

I can't imagine tintingz a son of Africa would be scammed by satarical white dude. They simply mock God. And if you search deeply the background of those guys, they are most likely Jews. They are known for doing sh!t like this.

If you have a smart thinking faculty, you don't need PhD to figure it this is a joke. You are very ridiculous to believe this.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 2:45pm On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
Evidence please.

Science has proven we evolve from ape-like ancestors, now prove we came from just two couples. Give archaeological anthropology, paleontology, geology, evidence for thier existence.

They simply mean species not necessarily Ape, Gorrilla or Monkey. Scientist are not all in harmony in this issue of human development. Contention here is, Adam existed. His existence led to you. And I ask you again, how would you feel in your grave 200yrs from now when your great grandchildren deny your existence?. Denying Adam means your grandpa also did not exist. Did he?.

FSM never claim he's perfect, he's drunk when he created the universe,

Good, he is not God.

What blueprint are you talking about? Did Allah write his name on this so called blueprint?

it is existing substance before science. Did scientists create their own soil, water, oil, gas etc?. NO. They utilized pre-existing tools. They can't come up with their own.

The so called ancient Greeks you're belittling are the founder of science and philosophy we're enjoying and benefitting today, give them good credit,

what's special in what they did?. They simply made use of tools created by God. Without pre-existing tools they are nothing. Their credit is with their Lord, not me.

As for tests and trials of disasters, you are currently being tested. This is your disaster. You better be careful. Every post of yours and us are recorded and will be used against you in the grave. You will have no excuse whatsoever.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 2:55am On Jan 24, 2018

tintingz:
Evidence Adam existed, we can find evidence of dinosaurs that lived million years ago, where is that for Adam?

Adam(as) was human being with 2-legs. In another word, like yourself. So yourself is evidence that Adam existed and we have billions of human skeletons. Pretty simple isn't.

tintingz:
It means if natural disasters can kill people without Allah doing nothing and we're the ones helping ourselves to survive, we can do without God.

You are incredible for reasoning from your bottom. This is very simple. Since you don't believe in Allah, it doesn't make sense to keep perambulating. Since you believe the so called "Flying Spaghetti Monster" created the world and everything, the implication is that he sends natural disasters on us. Why did he not stop all natural disasters and why did he bring it on us in the first place?.

tintingz:
I replied that video with questions, go and pass that question to the sheikh.

I will conclude on this by saying you have no evidence that scientists or science is independent of Creator. They rely on blueprints already fashioned by Allah. Case closed.

tintingz:
If God is actually doing something, how is he stopping natural disasters he created?

Natural disasters are tests and trials, and WARNINGS

tintingz:
The ancient greek philosophers left many questions and arguments which can't be answered by God believers, which is giving them tough time and critical thinking, these argument are diminishing God.

And where are the so called Ancient Greek philosophers today?. They have gone back to their Maker. I am sure they now know for sure in their graves that there is a God.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 11:23pm On Jan 23, 2018*

tintingz:
^^^ Oga E.mpiree, Can you provide evidence for Adam existence?

Exactly, i knew it. it is the same if someone had told you Allah was created and you would have asked 'who created the one who created Allah , and who created that and who created that" and so on. Anyway, to answer your question, imagine 200 yrs from now your great great and great grandchildren deny your existence?. How would you feel in your grave? shocked

tintingz:
Science and religion will always conflicts at a point, science doesn't have anything to do with religion but can be used by religious people for thier personal agenda/interest!

whatever this means?

tintingz:
Humans survive without God, we discovered how the natural world function without God since God is Impotent to do something about natural disasters, we find cure for diseases without God, build technology without God, so God is NOTHING to science.

4 minutes video i posted earlier already answered this and i have also answered it in my last post. The Sheikh said humans (scientists) had to rely on blueprints. So tell me how human survive without God?. Besides, the implication is, you survive without your so called "Flying Spaghetti Monster god". See how silly you sound now?.

tintingz:
The skepticism about God existence by early scholars like the Greeks was what led to the genesis of science and philosophy, this is how the questions and arguments about God started which infact diminishing God as years goes by.

The Greeks guys are gone but God Almighty still functions. See yourself?

tintingz:
And I'm very certain in the future, many people won't take religion serious like it was in the past.

thats happening now but not becus God doesnt exist but because of evil that plague the world. You are a living example of such people who denied existent of God.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 8:49pm On Jan 23, 2018*

^^^

yourself is yet to reason outside the box. Science in itself is ingrained in the Quran and hadith. Scientists can not do anything outside of God's plans. In another word, they rely on templates or blueprints. All knowledge, including scientific knowledge were already imbibed along with Adam (as). These knowledge are revealed stage by stage according to their fitted times. It is all documented in the Quran. Only those who are firmly grounded in knowledge are able to decode them. So scientists aren't telling us anything new.

You on the other hand are calling for disbelief in God, the Creator. This is the propaganda of Pastafarianism. It is simply a godless group. There will forever be scientific discoveries. Whatever their discoveries will be in another 50yrs already came with Adam(as). It is only up to muslims to revisit Qur'an and the sunnah. Knowledge of science is in the Quran not outside of it. So you can't really tell us anything new.

Examples:

Aircraft, أَوَلَمْ يَرَوْا إِلَى الطَّيْرِ فَوْقَهُمْ صَافَّاتٍ وَيَقْبِضْنَ مَا يُمْسِكُهُنَّ إِلَّا الرَّحْمَنُ إِنَّهُ بِكُلِّ شَيْءٍ بَصِيرٌ

“Or did they not see towards the birds above them, spreading and contracting (their wings)? No one holds them except the beneficent (Allah). He is certainly the Seer of everything.”(67:19)

أَلَمْ يَرَوْاْ إِلَى الطَّيْرِ مُسَخَّرَاتٍ فِي جَوِّ السَّمَاء مَا يُمْسِكُهُنَّ إِلاَّ اللّهُ إِنَّ فِي ذَلِكَ لَآيَاتٍ لِّقَوْمٍ يُؤْمِنُونَ

“Did you not see towards the birds compelled (to follow His Laws) in the space of the sky, no one holds them but Allah, there are certainly signs in that for a people who believe.” (16:79)

The above verses of the Quran invite mankind to reflect on the shape of and the forces acting on birds, which keep them in flight. This invitation to reflect on birds could be to inspire human beings to invent means of transport like aeroplanes. The history of aviation too provides us with a proof that birds had dominated the inspiration of man right from the start.

“Early attempts at aviation were often based on bird flight, where the flapping wings provides both the lift and the propulsive thrust.” (page 3 of Aircraft flight, written by Barnard & Phillpott)

The Quran has also hinted about aerial attacks through aeroplanes:

"Did you not consider, how your Fosterer dealt with the owners of the Elephant? Did He not make their plot useless, and send on them flocks of flying creatures, who pelted them with stones of baked clay, so that He made them like eaten up straw (husk)?" (105:1-5)

So revelation of Qur'an by God predated modern science that you are trying to hypnotize us. Another example is "Rainbow mountains" in China which were discovered recently, while Qur'an already talked about it 1400 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcDimyET4Yk

Culture › Re: Ooni: "Adam And Eve Were Created In Ile-Ife, They Were Blacks" by Empiree: 3:30pm On Jan 23, 2018

BreezyCB:
Ooni of ife!...
Mans Constantly Hot!
Adam & Eve self come from Ile ife!
Garden of eden is in Ile ife!
How come Osun has all these!??

Aregbesola :

some laughter are capable of disabling physical organs. cheesy

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Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 3:13pm On Jan 23, 2018

tintingz:
When you want to explain something to a kid, you come down to his/her level.

thank God you conceded. Was going to say this. Some of your responses are better left unanswered bcuz they sound ridiculously kiddie.

And what happen to this if FSM was drunk when he created the universe,

this should have answered you already. When a so called God was drunk, I wonder if it knew what it was doing at the time. Smh

I wonder how this negate FSM being a creator and God.

Creator is UNSEEN, buddy. And creator doesn't in anyway looks like His creation. But your FSM "creator" looks pretty much like octopus

If I'm the only believer in FSM, you can't still disprove his existence, using the population of people to prove a God(Allah) has limited that God to that of Facebook and Gmail.

I didn't really use popularity or population per se. I'm talking about his recognition was only known just 5yrs ago less ago. Historically, who else talked or recognized FSM?.

Does that mean FSM is not the creator and God? Was Islam not a borrowed pagan ideology by an Arab man?

FSM as been existing, then he revealed himself to we his creation. May FSM have mercy on you, Ramen.

"has been in existence".... Says who?. If everything you see or touch is a creator, then, statues that some ppl crafted and bow to are also creators?. . You are incredibly unbelievably. The big question is Who Created Flying Spaghetti Monster?.

I asked this because, obviously we can see how FSM looks like. But this is not the case with Allah. Allah is UNSEEN. Therefore, He's uncreated Creator.

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Islam › Re: A Thread on Correcting Errors Made in Salat by Empiree: 4:16am On Jan 23, 2018

Talkingboy ^^

I think you need to properly rephrase your question for proper understanding.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 1:56am On Jan 23, 2018*

tintingz:
Where did Pastafarian said Flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist and not a Creator? Stop blasphemy, I'm a Pastafarian and I believe FSM exist, he's the creator of everything, everything about FSM is perfect, your invisible God is not perfect.

Pastafarianism is not part of Christianity, stop given wrong and fallacious information.

Was Islam not coin from other Abrahamic religion?

Ooh, I see. Seems you have just confessed your faith. You are Pastafarian.

it is a waste of time going back n forth. Do you agree your god FSM was drunk when it "created the world"?. You are obviously a pagan. If FSM created the world 4000yrs ago, how come it is only recognized in only 3 countries in the world and is only about 4yrs old? shocked

It was first recognized in Poland in 2014 as official registered religion cheesy

There is no need to discuss Allah with you or how He created the world. You have been inundated with references and logical proofs and reasoning.

Pastafarianism is mockery of God. You can see that at their opening so called "prayer" in the attached picture up there. It is essentially atheistic godless ideology. It was actually made popular by American named Henderson Bobby. Flying Spaghetti ko, flying noodles ni cheesy

Bush!t like this always start from white people. It is them doing that crap.

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Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 12:55am On Jan 23, 2018

tintingz:
Lol, now the reductio ad absurdum is working, you can see the absurdity about believing in a personal fairy God.

Now the same argument you're trying to disprove Flying spaghetti monster(even tho you have not disprove his existence), why not use it to disprove Allah?

You only screenshot about Almighty Flying Spaghetti monster not disproving his existence as God and creator.

Pastafarians themselves know that 'it' doesnt exist in the sense that it is not a god or creator. They said in their article that "unlike mainstream christianity which believe that words in the Bible are not literal, therefore, FSM is not real". Pastafarianism is a heretic branch of christianity which I am sure majority of christians reject the nonsense. As for bolded part, my question stands, who is your Lord since FSM doesnt exist?.

"Flying Spaghetti Monster" is simply twin version of octopus. The creature itself exist in the sea but not a creator. YOu have a long way to go man.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 12:26am On Jan 23, 2018

tintingz:
Flying spaghetti monster created everything!

when I said earlier that shayateen are playing tricks with you, I didn't misspeak.

For the sake of this argument, at least you believe FSM is your creator sad

contrary to your saying there is no creator. Obviously there are plenty of the so called spaghetti monster. So you gonna have to tell us which of them created the world shocked

Let's see what your "creator" looks and if he exist at all?. The ugly thing you called your creator live in the deep sea and can't even help itself cheesy

Even United States can't tolerate the bullsh!t ideology, cuz know it is rubbish. And finally, it is said that FSM created the world 4000 yrs ago shocked

while it was drunk grin

.... Ooh yea, your "god" was drunk. To say that you are misguided is understament. You have exhibited the behavior of kufar.

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 11:27pm On Jan 22, 2018

tintingz:
Allah, fairies, aliens, pink unicorn, santa, Odin, Olorun, Brahma, Zeus, Unkulunkulu etc are all in the same category, they are all imaginary entities, you can't prove nor disprove them, you can't disprove something imagined. This is what Empiree and many of you don't get.

you can tell us how you came into being?

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 7:19pm On Jan 22, 2018

tintingz:
....

Atheists are liars. The reason you have been unreasonable throughout this thread and similar thread. This is 4 minutes video to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyi69H93lXw

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Islam › Re: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Empiree: 3:13am On Jan 22, 2018

https://naijagists.com/isis-west-africa-fighters-nigeria-fulani-herdsmen-security-agencies/

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Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 6:57pm On Jan 21, 2018

tintingz:
You agreed Allah is an angry god that depends on human worship?

u have serious comprehension problem angry

shayateen are playing tricks in ur head right now

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Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 5:40pm On Jan 21, 2018

tintingz:
Is Natural disasters part of your Allah's sign? I guess his name was written on it.

Allah must be an angry emotional insecured entity to curse people living in a tiny dust earth in milky way galaxy. Take the Quran away and Muslim Allah doesn't exist!

See why his invocation was appropriate?

Islam › Re: The Non Muslims Ask Who Created Allaah by Empiree: 7:20pm On Jan 20, 2018*

tintingz:
I'm not talking about humans wearing santa outfit to celebrate him, I'm not talking about Lord Santa Claus that ride on flying chariot!

He exist in the North Pole.

https://happyholidaysblog.com/wp-content/uploads/Real-Santa-Claus-And-Reindeer-Flying-08.jpg

You have serious problems. Still makes no difference. He is human being that emerged from Europe. Was said to be Kris Kringle now Saint N. Santa claus who was born in what is now modern day Turkey. Hence, he can not be god but human. His story mainly evolved around what US tell people. He was said to be toymaker and married to a lady called Jessica grin

Hence, he is nowhere close to Divine.

This simple descriptions of him does not in anyway close to being called God or Creator. But Allah describes Himself in surah Ikhlas "He is One, Self Sufficient, He has no wife, no children"

So, contrary to your statement that he lives in NP shows that, such "being" does not exist in real world. He could have been a mere priest, cardinal and so forth. You have no idea what you doing bro wink

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