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Rashduct4luv:
Qur'an 2 vs 256.

There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the right path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break. And Allah is All-Hearer, All-Knower.

this ayah doesnt apply to muslims

baio:
Dear brothers, Salam alaekum warahmatullah.
As interesting and educating your argument is let's not forget the etiquettes of argument. May Almighty ALLAH remove any for of arrogance and pride from our soul.
On this issue of music and the evidence you brought, I would advise you to read the entire topic from the book of habit which you brought the evidence from from the beginning of the topic which has the hadiths before and after revelation came to prophet on music ban. That's why the imams doesn't have any argument where music is concerned. Pls kindly do this with an open heart and mind. And for the sake of being a better Muslim and gaining knowledge. May Almighty ALLAH reward us all.

walaikum salaam

As i have said before, opinion varies. You can do better sir by providing evidence that the ayah in the Quran was revealed to ban music after it was allowed. For instance, visiting graves was always tradition before nabi Muhammad(saw). He(saaw) temporarily banned it at the outstart of islam but later allowed it. That was clear. If you have evidence for this on music kindly present it. Besides, when we say music, we not talking about many in this modern time which involve, evil, sinful speeches (fawaish). Past Ulama themselves differ on Ma’aazif. While some considered it to mean singing and drumming, other said it simply means bad talks, sinful speeches etc



Al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: this includes all manner of haraam speech, all idle talk and falsehood, and all nonsense that encourages kufr and disobedience; the words of those who say things to refute the truth and argue in support of falsehood to defeat the truth; and backbiting, slander, lies, insults and curses; the singing and musical instruments of the Shaytaan; and musical instruments which are of no spiritual or worldly benefit. (Tafseer al-Sa’di, 6/150)



This issue is very old and was resolved long time ago. Imam al-Ghazzali, one of the most famous Muslim scholars, writing almost a thousand years ago, reported several Ahadith and came to the following conclusion: “All these Ahadith are reported by al-Bukhari and singing and playing are not haram.” Al-Ghazzali also convincingly answered many critics who had raised such objections in his book, “Ihya Ulum al-Deen.”

Those who are opposed to music, quote this Hadith:

“Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 69, Number 494v: Narrated Abu ‘Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash’ari: that he heard the Prophet saying, “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse, the wearing of silk, the drinking of alcoholic drinks and the use of musical instruments, as lawful. And there will be some people who will stay near the side of a mountain and in the evening their shepherd will come to them with their sheep and ask them for something, but they will say to him, ‘Return to us tomorrow.’ Allah will destroy them during the night and will let the mountain fall on them, and He will transform the rest of them into monkeys and pigs and they will remain so till the Day of Resurrection.”



It is dangerous to form an opinion on the basis of one or two Hadiths, and Hadith literature should be considered as raw data. Each Hadith should be evaluated and compared with other Ahadith as well as with other historical sources. The problem is that we usually don’t know the context of each Hadith, and it is difficult to know under what circumstances the Prophet (s.a.w) made certain statements.



The above Hadith most likely refers to musical instruments used in drinking parties during the period of “jahiliyaa” (pre-Islamic era) in which even men wore silk clothes and orgies included illegal sexual intercourse. Taken by itself, the Hadith should also ban silk, but that is not the case and silk is permitted for women. That is why it is important to look at all Ahadith and not come to a hasty conclusion. There are other Ahadiths which clearly show that musical instruments are permitted: For example this Hadith:

“Volume 6, Book 61, Number 568: Narrated Abu Musa: That the Prophet said to him’ ‘O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David .’”


Critics also argue that music instruments are ONLY allowed during festivities. They quote this Hadith:

Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72: Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, “Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah’s Apostle !” It happened on the ‘Id day and Allah’s Apostle said, “O Abu Bakr! There is an ‘Id for every nation and this is our ‘Id.”

That Hadith again has to be studied in proper context because the Prophet (pbuh) not only permitted singing on other occasions, he recommended it. “Aishah narrated that when her relative was married to an Ansari man, the Prophet (s.a.w) said: ‘Aishah, did they have any entertainment? The Ansar are fond of Entertainment.” He didn’t say they were fond of entertainment only on festivities or that it was wrong but allowed on some occasions.


In another Hadith, “Ibn Abbas said, ‘Aishah gave a girl relative of hers in marriage to a man of the Ansar. The Prophet (s.a.w) came and asked, ‘Did you send a singer along with her?’ ‘No,’ she said. The Messenger of Allah then said: ‘The Ansar are a people who love poetry. You should have sent along someone who would sing, ‘here we come, to you we come, greet us as we greet you.'”


Music-haters also reference this Hadith: “Anas ibn Malik related from the Prophet (saws) that, “two cursed sounds are that of the musical instrument(mizmaar) played on the occasion of joy and grace, and the woeful wailing upon the occasion of adversity.”


It is not difficult to find contradictory Ahadith. However, almost all scholars of Islam are of the view that singing is not only permitted, it is recommended on the occasions of Eid, weddings, births, aqiqahs, and on the return of a traveler. {See Yusuf al-Qardawi’s “The Lawful and the Prohibited in Islam.”] Qardawi in the same book also states the following: “It is reported that many Companions of the Prophet (may Allah be pleased with them) as well as second generation Muslim scholars used to listen to singing and did not see anything wrong with it. As for the Ahadith which have been reported against singing, they all are weak and have been shown by researchers to be unsound. The jurist Abu Bakr al-Arabi says, ‘No sound Hadith is available concerning the prohibition of singing,’ while Ibn Hazm says, ‘ All that is reported on this subject is false and fabricated…he who listens to singing intending neither obedience nor disobedience in doing something neutral and harmless, which is similar to going to the park and walking around, standing by a window and looking at the sky, wearing blue or green clothes, and so on.'”



The best answer was given by Ibn Hazm who quoted another verse: “And what is beyond the truth except error?” (Quran 10:32). In other words, those who are prohibiting something which God has not forbidden, for no apparent reason, are simply falling into error.

Then there are some Muslims who argue that only drums are allowed. That too is false. Note the Hadith that I have quoted above:
“Narrated Abu Musa: “That the Prophet said to him ‘O Abu Musa! You have been given one of the musical wind-instruments of the family of David.'”

That makes it obvious that Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) was not opposed to wind instruments. So there goes your “drums are OK” theory. Secondly, what is permitted on Eid day is also permitted on other days. There is not a single Hadith which says that what is permitted for Eid is not acceptable on other days. Muslims have been enjoying Music since the beginning of Islam with no guilt whatsoever.
https://www.quora.com/Is-music-prohibited-in-Islam-Why

Op however insist that ALL musics are haram. This is my line of disagreement.

Help yourselves https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uthman+dan+fodio+by+sheikh+abdullah+quick

Rashduct4luv:
What are you saying? From the list i posted how many did i not provide evidence for? It's left for Muslims with eyes to see and follow the truth! We know Emp.iree before!

what do you know about me?. I provided evidence and I have told you the context music is forbidden and also posted video showing your shuyukh danced to songs. So I'm saying anything strange or you simply don't understand?. I'm trying to correct you that all musics are not Haram. All music means including apala, Waka, Islamic praises etc. Are you saying those Alfa, mufti, Maulana who were musicians and have long gone are heretics?.

And lastly @madridguy, thanks for the compliment. I honestly don't subscribe to adjectives thing. I only believe that Muslims of different views, whatever prefixes they added to their Muslim title, they all have positive things to offer. Whether liberal, fundamentalist, conservative. I'm for all if they understand religious text in their context and with time.

Demmzy15:
This is because the Sheikh didn't actually know reality about Shi'as. Every Sunni (including myself) used to believe everything is politics and a ploy to divide the Muslims not until I saw how dangerous and illogical Shiism is.

Of course, if the Sheikh knew that they cursed our mothers (Aisha and Hafsah), despise Abubakar, Umar and Uthman; do you really think he will or even a man with an atom of sense and dignity praise them? NO!!!!

why did you show up only for this bro?. Everything you alleged there are not criteria to disregard shia by shariah standard. Besides, all Shias do that?

AbdelKabir:
If you can't bring proof of me discussing music with you then pls quit lying on me, the ones you've lied on me are still on your neck, you wanna add more?

We discussed something to that effect here and several other places. Still searching.....

https://www.nairaland.com/3518814/stop-listening-music-haraam

Think over what a great scholar Shaikh Ahmad Deedat says concerning Sunni-Shi'a divide


"Can you imagine we Sunnis are 90% of the Muslim world and the 10% who are Shias want to be partners and brothers with you in faith and the 90% are terrified. I can't understand why should you the 90% be so terrified. They should be the ones terrified. And if you just knew the feelings that they have for you. During Jummah prayers in Iran, there are a million people. And you should see the way they look at you when you pass by, they recognize that you are a foreigner and not one of them and tears start rolling down their cheeks. This is the feeling that they have for you, but you say no, you want to keep them out, afraid that they will absolve you. You can only be absolved if there is something better than what you have. I don't know, maybe some of you think I am a Shia, but I'm still with you all here. What is all this Shia-Sunni tensions? It is all politics. These antagonisms we have are all politics now."


- Sheikh Ahmed Deedat, 1982 in his lectures in Durban, RSA, after his experience in Iran.

AbdelKabir:
Dancing to music was what you said, anyway can you bring were I discussed music with you to the extent of bringing a view from ibn baz rahimahullaah?

since last yr or even 2016, you kidding me?. Even dancing is allowed but not mixing is whats frown upon. Whats wrong with you guys?

AbdelKabir:
Empi.ree pls bring where we ever talked on dancing, why do you enjoy lying on me?

Music is what i said. Why do u enjoy lying on me?

Rashduct4luv:
Not all visitation can be termed as travel and this is simple english! What do you mean by an Hadith is solitary? Well as regards this hadith it is clear! I also agree we can visit graves and make du'a for the Muslims there but the the visitation must not involve traveling! And i will like you to offer explanation for that hadith.
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The evidence you require i don't have it anymore! I watched the video where the Sheikh was buried in a building and people were doing all sorts of things like throwing money and seeking blessings, etc. And where do you find it to offer sacrifice on behalf of the dead (as the Yoruba cleric does)? This your reasoning is faulty! I think it's pointless arguing with you! The Prophet was buried at home because Prophets are buried wherever they died. You are just trying to justify what you guys do....Anyways...i will only reply you on Music next and finally.

Sorry, you are dismissed. You have no evidence. As for saara on behalf of the dead is valid. Take it or leave it. Even at my masjid here with same ideology as your, they did the same thing when son of a brother passed away and gave everyone food. If they dont believe such saara is valid, why would they do it?. And what's your evidence and who told you that prophets are buried where they died. I dont wanna hear your sheikh said. I repeat, if prophet is buried in his house, is a clear evidence it is halal. You need evidence to prove otherwise not your whim. It is only if the law of the land prohibits graves on private property, that's the only time we can agree on. Otherwise, opinion of everyone else doesnt count

Rashduct4luv:
You forgot to put the Hadith collector sha! You were just too much in haste to promote Music!

I knew you would focus on Ibn Abass(ra). Every sahaba you quoted and tabi'in, how did they refute hadith of nabi (saw)stopping Abu Bakr for rebuking those people singing?. Plus i clearly posted in what context music is prohibited but you keep saying i am promoting music. And this are sahih ahadith I quoted, which you believe in 100% authentic, so why are you asking me about transmitters?. Until you tell me you know better than your sheikh dancing to music, i wont take you serious. Even abdelkabir gave up on it last yr after quoting sheikh bin baz(ra) who himself asked for difference of opinion. That's why he peeped through this thread and left bcus he knows you dont know what you talking about.

And what I mean by solitary Hadith is that you, just like your other brothers, when dealing with a topic on Islam, you quote one ayah of Quran or Hadith and validate your opinion on it while ignoring other parts of the Hadith or verses of Quran. Example:

A non-muslim may quote this ayah of Qur'an to justify the fact that Good accepts any religion. Q2:62 and the like, while ignoring Qur'an 3:19 and Qur'an 3:85.

This is exactly what you are doing in the case of music. It is called LAZY MAN METHODOLOGY. You should bring all verses of Quran and Hadith together to form harmonious whole before you derive the meaning.

Ayah Lukman you quoted and they put music in parentheses shows it is opinion. The ayah is talking about idle talks which means fawaish(isókusó), tried alufanshá, and can of course means bad music but not all music including music in praises of Allah.


What Are These Saudis Doing Here, isn't This music and dancing with drums which Imam Malik(ra) supposedly condemned including drums?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SZArprD9pw

iamgenius:
Empiree, kílódé tí o fi ń approve ABURÚ.? Please repent, please repent, please repent. May Allah forgive us all and straighten our affairs. Aamin

Abeg, tell me what "aburu" I approved?. Is it music other other stuff we discussed?. If it is music, you see clearly my counter argument using hadith. You should either bring up yours and let's see what's up.

Rashduct4luv:
And some Muslims erronously do offer du'a at the grave of Sheikh Adam of Markaz, Agege Lagos. And so many other Shirk/Kufr are commited by Muslims over graves.

There are ahadith approving visiting graves and making du'a there. When you go to visit graves, you basically travel. And you need to provide dalil that goes against making dua at the graves. This a 2 minutes video of Alhaji Malik Shabaz (Malcolm X). The people travelled there and made dua. That's haram and shirk?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KsygYd-VMA

You guys like quoting solitary hadith to derive meaning. This is sad. As for your claim about people visit to Sheikh Adam's grave and commit "shirk and kufr" , do you have evidence to buttress your point?. Newnas said the same thing last yr and i asked for evidence but he literally ran away till date. He goes as far as saying "awon obinrin (market women) sacrifice animal to him". Remember there is a difference between offering sacrifice TO someone (this is worship) and offering sacrifice FOR or ON BEHALF of someone(this is sadaqi) and family of deceased call people for saara. Purpose of visiting graves is to reflect and make du'a for the dea. So burying them close to home or in a compound where family constantly see give them constant reminder. There is nothing wrong burying the dead at home. And likewise nothing wrong with burying them in the cemetery. WHo remembers the dead on average day when she/he is buried miles away from home?. People pretend to "miss" loved one and visit the grave once a yr. For the fact that nab(saw0 was buried in his house is evidence that it is allowed. You gonna have to bring evidence otherwise directly from nabi that says otherwise. Else, i wont take it. Now, i understand lately that some have complained that the reason we should bury the dead at the cemetery is to avoid grave worship at home. This is not substantial enough. Grave may as well be worship at the cemetery.

Martinez19:
This was opened last year.

i know. His case is with Allah now. So he can settle his scores with HIM

N. Quraishi again?. He dont die so his case is closed

^^^

There are several others in Sahih Bukhari and Muslim relate to halal music. Signing is natural and part of human instinct.

Rashduct4luv:
Yes, Music is forbidden and you can bring evidence that music is permitted just as the Sheikh was doing!

Which Sheikh?. Your Sheikh in the video?. Thats your problem. I see no problem with baba oni baba dancing and happy.


Now digest this,


Volume 2, Book 15, Number 103:

Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of 'Aisha:

On the days of Mina, (11th, 12th, and 13th of Dhul-Hijjah) Abu Bakr came to her while two young girls were beating the tambourine and the Prophet was lying covered with his clothes. Abu Bakr scolded them and the Prophet uncovered his face and said to Abu Bakr, "Leave them, for these days are the days of 'Id and the days of Mina." 'Aisha further said, "Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said, 'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'."





Volume 2, Book 15, Number 72:

Narrated Aisha:

Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Apostle !" It happened on the 'Id day and Allah's Apostle said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an 'Id for every nation and this is our 'Id."




Volume 2, Book 15, Number 70:

Narrated Aisha:

Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, "Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ?" Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, "Leave them." When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signalled to those girls to go out and they left. It was the day of 'Id, and the Black people were playing with shields and spears; so either I requested the Prophet (p.b.u.h) or he asked me whether I would like to see the display. I replied in the affirmative. Then the Prophet (p.b.u.h) made me stand behind him and my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, "Carry on! O Bani Arfida," till I got tired. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked me, "Are you satisfied (Is that sufficient for you)?" I replied in the affirmative and he told me to leave.



Music which incites the love of Allah, His Prophet (SAW), Awliya, and that of country (or Jihad) etc does not come under the category of haram. Almost every Hadith which talks against music also speaks against drinking (alcohol), doing zina with girls etc. So these Ahadith criticize that kind of music which can arouse sexual desires and can lead a person to drinking and zina etc. The music used in Qawali etc doesnt arouse sexual desires, but incites the love of Allah and His Prophet (SAW), so it does not come under the prohibited category. There are many events where music was played in the presence of the Prophet (SAW) and he didnt forbid it. As the Prophet (SAW) cannot allow a haram thing in his presence, so music is not haram (according to those scholars).


#On some occasions, when some Sahabi tried to stop someone from playing music, the Prophet (SAW) asked them to continue with their music. This kind of acceptance was not possible for a haram act .


#At some marriage occasions the Prophet (SAW) ordered Sahaba to play some music and said that the difference between a marriage and zina is music (which serves as an announcement of that marriage).

Hkana:
With regards to the above, I was actually referring to this part of the post below

Yes, that's the part in referring to. Maybe because I said AFTER RUQYA WAS DONE. It means after the Sheikh already recited verses and won him over. That's, you know jinn would first put up battle and try to prove stubborn. They mumble and refuse say anything in most cases until they can't take it no more and they start talking. That's what I meant.


I wish I could look for the video and post it if you understand Yoruba. The sheikh was narrating his experience

Hkana:
Wait wait wait... You mean even after the ruqya, the jinn was still saying that? Haba. Na wa ooo

Is that not an incomplete ruqya? Seeing how the jinn still has control over the sister.

actually it was ruqya the at forced him to talk. Without talking raqi can't possibly know what's next. To exit would be a great deal. I have to watch the video again to refresh my memory what happened in the end. I think he said he told him to sacrifice sheep but I'm not sure.

Rashduct4luv:
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Empi.ree, pls bring out daleel that permits Music! I usually have problems with people who carries Sheikhs on their head like this. Sheikhs are humans and are not infallible! Only the Prophet is infallible!
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What's my own with all this attachments you are sending?

Did the prophet (saw) allowed evil when girls were singing and beating tambourine in his presence?. Think brother, think. You don't understand.

And since you said only the prophet is infallible, then, why did you say music is Haram when he allowed it in his presence?. I will post the dalil if after this you ask again. This is just headsup.

Also, you turning away from your sheikh now where he doesn't suits you. Another time you will write like abdelkabir does and you will say the sheikh said that.

Remember you said both Islamic music and otherwise are Haram. Music forbidden by Islam are those fawaish and stuff

Rashduct4luv:
I think you already answered yourself here. As a Muslim we follow authentic evidences from our books and it doesn't mater whether the truth is lumped together or not. May Allaah give you the will to recognise and follow the truth!

Question is, the sheikh was wrong for dancing to music?. You have no dalil to prove him wrong. Islam doesn't forbid it. You made that up. This is not even king but Grand mufti.


Now, see the attachment?. That's what happens when you loose argument with your opponent. Alfa saheed(black jibab) confronted Sheikh Labibu on forbiddance of not Islam and he lost. Not only did he lose but he became Sufi onilawani gbangba

^^^

Similar thing happened to a single lady who looked like she already gave birth several times. She was brought for ruqya to sheikh Akindele. After ruqya was done, the jinn(male) said the lady already gave birth for him, I think set of twins total 6. Sheikh asked him to prove it?. Then his children (mini jinn) started suckling their mother (human) and her boobs were jumping up and down without anymore touched her.

The lady was crying and sheikh was speechless like he never seen this before. He said when the lady first told him that she never had a child, sheikh said he didn't believe her. So he pled to the jinn to leave her alone.

The jinn said she's love of his life and they already have children together. So this single lady is not attracted to men because many think she is married and have kids but she's not.

Rashduct4luv:
13. Bleaching the skin, tattooing, shaving eyebrows, gaping the tooth, using hair extensions and dyeing hair black.

who this nonsense help

Rashduct4luv:
14. Watching the display of the Kuffar eg. Ẹyọ in Lagos, Eégún, Ọṣun-Oṣogbo, Story of Jesus by Churches, etc.

Na only watching you feel talk?. You no go warn muslim who participate?.

Rashduct4luv:
15. Believing that we all worship the same God.

Explain this to them after you make this statement.

Rashduct4luv:
16. Believing it is abnormal to call disbelievers Kuffar.

Do so with hikma

Rashduct4luv:
17. Believing Allaah is everywhere physically.

Allah's Names and Attributes are in everything. Thats why everything functions. And yes, to think He is physically by my side is improper. This was aqeeda that Sheikh Jabaru who died mysterious professed. He used to broadcast on TV in the 80s and 90s. He used to say where he is sitting, Allah is sitting next to him on one side, nabi Muhammad (saw) is sitting next to him the other side. That Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman and Ali are sitting in front of him. Allah disgraced and humiliated him before he died. All his investments gone before his eyes in a blink of an eye, and no one heard about him for years even though he lived until he died. However, there is nothing wrong to identify Allah's Signs from oneself especially when preaching to Atheists. Thats the best example. You preach to them using thier own self. This is what happened to Namurusu

Rashduct4luv:
18. Rearing pets like dogs and cats for sale.

You need to bring forward dalil to substantiate your claim. What we dealing here is by standard of Shairi'a not your whims

Rashduct4luv:
19. Hanging pictures/images around one's body, around the house or mosques, etc.

I personally dont like it. But then, this is minute issue. Definitely not in the masajid

Rashduct4luv:
20. Visiting the graves of dead Sheikhs (eg Ibrahim Niass, Ahmada Tijani,) etc to offer some forms of worship/prayers around their graves.

Two things are combined. VISITIN: nothing wrong with this. We have dalil. OFFERING: to offer something to them is haram and kufr. Muslims dont do that. But what you copied pasted here is vague @underlined. Purpose of ziyara is to offer prayer for them. So you can offer prayers around graves and i am not talking about salat.

Rashduct4luv:
21. Working in a brewery, helping the sale of Alcohol in any way even if its just helping the seller to put the wares on her head

no questions asked

Rashduct4luv:
May Allaah Pardon us our past sin and grant us Taqwa, Istiqama and Sabr to follow the Haqq till the end!

Amina

Rashduct4luv:
2. Creating Images/ Pictures of animate beings.

whatever this means?. Like one of your govnors did erecting South African president's image or camera photos?

Rashduct4luv:
3. A male using golden items such as chains, wristwatches, rings, etc.

of course, but you better yannana re before you confuse ppl.

Rashduct4luv:
4. A lady using perfume outside her home.

no problems. But then, there are difference of opinion. but i have no objection personally

Rashduct4luv:
5. Praying two or more Solah together after their time has passed due to work everyday.

where is your dalil?

Rashduct4luv:
6. Abortion.

who this help before nko

Rashduct4luv:
7. Praying in the name of anyone other than Allaah.

of course this is violation. but you need to to clarify cus you might mean something else. And don't misconstrue this for tawasul

Rashduct4luv:
8. Not using the right hijab, exposing tightly fitted dress, revealing body parts,exposing make-up, etc by the females.

no question asked

Rashduct4luv:
9. Swearing by other than Allah.

Yes, not proper

Rashduct4luv:
10. Praying by virtue of the Prophet or Kaaba or other creations.

You wrong buddy. I believe you referred to something like saying "Ola anobi", right?. If that's what you condemned, you are OYO. No wonder they can made prayer carpets depicting Masjid Haram and have people step on and pray on it. That very disrespective. Saying Ola Kaaba, Ola safa and marwa etc are halal. Take it or leave it. It is like saying "mo fi ola baba re be o". Omo ti won ba fi ola baba re be even if he is right but refuse to let go, omo ale ni omo na.

Rashduct4luv:
11. Burying the dead at home.

you have dalil against this?. I am talking about clear caught dalil. Besides, Oga wa Anobi Muhammad(saw) was buried in his house. Now what?.

As usual, you lumped things together. But i can agree more to this one than the former

Rashduct4luv:
In continuation of our former post from:

https://www.nairaland.com/3692784/some-deeds-not-meant-muslims

Muslims should beware of these:

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1. Music (whether the so called Islamic songs or otherwise).

Like you know better than your shuyukh? These are few seconds videos. So dont tell me you dont have data.What are they dancing to?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BndZc47vA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvhDsXYTzHI

You can say you dont follow sheikh. That's irrelevant. Bunch of your shuyukh dance and there is nothing haram there so long as it is segregated. The guy named Alfa Saheed from UK who was criticizing Alfas ilorin has finally bowed. He condemned music too. You guys dont understand. Music that Islam forbids are those of fawaish. ALfa Saheed is now a sufi oni lawani gbangba after meeting Sheikh Labibu



to be continued...

ayho0om:
Dude
As a foreigner here in Nigeria i can see things that you guys don't see .. the government (in my opinion) is doing great compared to the previous one .. cutting on Importation is so helpful for the country .. we will absolutely see hardtimes because you guys are not even cultivating what you eat .. it's really starnge to see a nation that depend on other to feed it self .. its so wrong .. i would say go for agriculture or anything related to food .. because from what i see .. Nigeria is Hungry. And yet the resources are uncountable
Thank you

I said this several times but unfortunately they don't listen.

What Nigerians want is do called "office job". They want to walk around from one office to another on suit and tie. For this reason, they have abandoned agriculture which many of them grew up with. It is sad.

The first time I heard that Nigerians now import chickens I know they are done like dinner. I have also supported this administration for banning importation of groceries but I think it actually banned importation of cars instead. That's like misplaced priority

huss421:
There is this girl I proposed to years ago during my undergraduate who accepted the offer based on the belief that after school I would have a nice job that would enable me care for her.

After my NYSC, when she saw that things were not as expected, she lose interest in me and walked away, however, she now wants to come back as she had heard the news of my employment even though, I don't like her again and I have gotten some body better off than her.

The problem is, am finding it difficult to tell her the truth, pls pals how do I go about it? Pls I need your advice pls, no insult it's a serious matter.

It doesn't mean she's a gold digger or any thing of that nature. Women do need financial security. Put your sister in her position; family members would most likely tell him to get a job before marrying their daughter (you sister). So i see nothing wrong for the fact that she left you. It is better than she played you. That would have been heartbreak.

Now that you already have someone else, you need not complicate issue at all. Simply tell her politely that there is someone in your life. I dont think you can afford women wahala for now but if you think you can, then, you are on your own and play your game well. Afterall, men can have multiple women so long as you love her but in this case you said you no longer in love with her. So let her go but dont be rude to her.

@emekaraj,

Did you have objection or one or two things to say about the Sheikh in S.African whom the people considered pious and sought help from his grave?. I sensed you had something to say about it when you raised this subject. Please dont hesitate to share.

And this witch also claimed to be "direct descendant" of the prophet (saw) and Arabs are dancing to her tune. She should just embrace Islam if she's so willing. I don't want to hear descendant story. Everyone wants to belong.

yournewswire.com/queen-elizabeth-descendant-muhammad/

iamgenius:
Where and when do we ever follow the Shaykhs and their countries where their words and actions are against that of the Prophet (peace be upon him)?

don't worry buddy. I don't need to engage in endless arguments. You-all have seen the signs of their betrayal and pretense and are gradually stepping back. Don't be surprised if we later found that Zionists have been helping them building and funding Masjid Haram. A new design is up to make it look more like Las Vegas. The more Grand structure it is the more people are misguided.

iamgenius:
^^^ We only follow what the Prophet(peace be upon him) said, we don't follow Saudi or any other Islamic countries. So what's ur problem O Shi'iSufi!

this is your new set of campaign now, isn't?. You backtrack?

Dang...I have been saying this for long. My intuitiveness pays off.