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Scholar8200:
The Allaha Jesus called sent Him in fulfilment of the promise to Abraham and in performance of the New Covenant prophesied! Not the same as the modus operandi of Allah!

WORDWORLD:
In a nut shell, what TRUELY defines God whether spelt as DOG is the attributes of that diety and intention given to it.

I[b] might call on ALLAH like a Hausa Christian does and in my mind am not referring to ALLAH in His purity but in TRINITY.[/b]

Scholar8200:
At the time of Jesus, we had the Jews and the Samaritans. Before then we had the pharisees and the sadduccees. After Christ we've had various movements and sects some differing on non-essentials while others differing on major issues. As to who is right/scriptural, this will only be dealt with if he wants a discussion on it or opens a thread (like bin-gbabo does)stating his beliefs and the basis for such.


noted.

well, the best we are allowed to do in Scripture is to test all things and admonish or correct. If accepted, fine. If rejected, then the Day will declare it.


The rejection of the Trinity is not new. Those who rejected this, the Sabellianists/Modalists as early as the third(3rd) century, were known generally to be the heretics meaning the Trinity is not a creation of catholicism afterall! Sabellianism was the effort of one man to make a Mystery agree to rational thinking and that is the root of many movements applied to various issues but the Bible remains the same.
We also have the JWs that claim Jesus was an Angel. They also dont realise that they are only repeating the views of the deceptive Gnostics who Paul refuted in Colossians and John in 1 John.



Well, like I said in that other thread, we are not referring to the same God. Yahweh Who made the promise to Abraham and initiated both Covenants is not the same as Allah.(or you may want to show where in speaking of Mohammed's prophethood, Allah referred to any of these 3 points).



Factions and sects exist because we have an enemy whose most powerful tool is deception. Fortunately himself simply recycles old and forgotten(but recorded) methods.

AZUH:
27m . This man might go mad oh . All these contractors doesn't care .they think people pick money from a tree . Forget God in this and look for solution . If I spend that kind of money I won't be here on the net " I will be naked looking for the contractor . E better make e kill me oh .

EgunMogaji:
Confirm.

Ijebu Ode tinzs

Newnas:
Aqeedatu awwalan law kānuu ya'lamuun! "Creed first if they have known!" A lot of people often commence the acquisition of Islamic knowledge with subjects like fiqh (worship-jurispudence), nahw&sarf (grammar&syntax) etc, while creed is taken last or neglected and this make them fall into many errors. Mistake(s) could render one an innovator or even an apostate. Allãhs refuge is sought! Start learning the right aqeedah today! May Allãh bless you all.

Scholar8200:
Fine, the thread had its focus - an atheist asking him about the OT. Therein, he stated what his convictions were (I only saw the one where he said he cared not if what he believed contradicts others' belief, and I saw that because of the mention of my username and re-quoting of same by him otherwise, it was a thread I had no interest in.)

Perhaps if he decides to open a thread on that issue, then we can discuss it there.(At least I have done same with other NL christians on some issues)

Nafizzey:
tnx how much does it cost to send through Nipost?

malvisguy212:
my brother, Allah is not the God in the bible, the nature of God in the bible is Crystal clear from the true God we know in the bible, christ die for us. May God guide us in jesus name.

malvisguy212:
my brother, Allah is not the God in the bible, the nature of God in the bible is Crystal clear from the true God we know in the bible, christ die for us. May God guide us in jesus name.

Newnas:
QUESTION (344)
Can we observe our prayers behind an Imaam who does Bid'ah (Innovation)?.

ANSWER TO THE QUESTION

Praise be to Allaah.

If his bid’ah (innovation) amounts to shirk, such as calling upon someone other than Allaah, making vows to someone other than Allaah, or believing that their Shaykhs possess attributes that belong to Allaah alone – such as perfect knowledge, knowledge of the unseen or the power to influence events – then prayers offered behind him are not valid.

If his bid’ah does not amount to shirk, such as reciting Adhkaar that were narrated from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), but doing that in unison and swaying from side to side, then prayers offered behind him are valid, but the Muslim should look for an Imaam to pray behind who is not a follower of innovation, because that will increase his reward and is farther removed from evil.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 7/353
May Almighty Allaah accept our prayer as an act of worship.

Newnas:
I'm done arguing with you and your fellow infidels.

Surah Al-Kafiroon, Verse 6:
لَكُمْ دِينُكُمْ وَلِيَ دِينِ

"To you be your religion, and to me my religion (Islamic Monotheism)."
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

ShiaMuslim:
Subhanallah!

may Allah guide you and give you the courage to open your mind and see the truth of Islam of Muhammad Ibn Abdullah, the messenger of Allah, and his purified Ahlul-Bayt (as), and not the so called "islam" of Muhammad Ibn Abdul-Wahab (la), the horn of shaitan of Najd, and that of the terrorist Ibn Taymiyyah and his Umayyad predecessors.

zeyney:
want to commend demmzy and co for their good work in defending Islam against haters but u HV to take it easy wit d arguments in order to avoid committing sins unintentionally because some things are just not worth it

abdulwastecx:
Yes, they may not have the know how. Installation is not that straight forward you need people with know how to do the installation. Luckily, I have the know how

abdulwastecx:
There are different type... The choice is yours. Looks to the type we use for this building

abdulwastecx:
We don't measure polystyrene fascia in square meters, it is measured in linear meter (perimeter). The total perimeter was 120m @ about N4,000/m = N480,000 (excluding Transportation).

The polystyrene fascia is not very costly when you compare it to in-situ cast fascia, though it may be more expensive than pre cast but not by much

abdulwastecx:
Stone Coated tiles is better because it is more fashionable and people like it but is much expensive.

Metcoppo will also do a good job

Newnas:
Now you use the actions of some sacrilegious lunatics as your proof.

I'm not surprised, the Sufi are very common with such deviant methodologies. eg it's the Sufi sheikhs that will tell you that a mad man is a wali of Allah. that he was given a prayer in his dream (solatul fati) and it's better than the Quran 600 times. And many other craps. In Yoruba land here there is a Sufi sheikh that starts his fast ten days before Ramadan and ends it ten days before shawwal. And that Onikijipa the babalawo that attributes himself to Islam. if you want to count the deviations and non commonsensical feats of the Sufi and their sheikhs, a new section will be needed for it.

You are not the first to display this type of deviation in history, some deviants have preceded you in your misguidance. They innovated in the Deen by distorting the names and attributes of Allah, when they were asked for evidence they couldn't find any. Instead of turning back from their deviations they went deeper into it and used the word of a Christian poet (called al-akhtal) as proof.

SubhanaLLaah, A Christian, and even a poet, they used his word in discussing the names and attributes of their Lord the most exalted. إنا لله وإنا إليه راجعون.
That's the same thing you have done here!!!

Surah Ash-Shuara, Verse 224:
وَالشُّعَرَاءُ يَتَّبِعُهُمُ الْغَاوُونَ

As for the poets, the erring follow them,
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Shaykhul Islam Ibn Taymiyyah said regarding those deviants in his laamiyyah:

قبحا لمن نبذ القران وراءه
و إذا استدل يقول قال الأخطل

Hideous! the one who threw the Quran behind him.
And when he seeks proof he says: "al-akhtal said".

Newnas:
@bolded see how you contradict yourself!!!
It's right to attribute oneself to baseless sufiyyah but it's wrong to attribute oneself to the righteous predecessors of this ummah.

It's right to call oneself Sufi, shaziliy, solaty, adaby etc which cannot be traced back to the Messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam and his companions but it's wrong to attribute oneself to the righteous predecessors i.e salaf of the ummah.


So, tell me who else has the right to be followed and attributed to than the righteous predecessors. Salaf Solih.

Surah Yunus, Verse 32:
فَذَٰلِكُمُ اللَّهُ رَبُّكُمُ الْحَقُّ فَمَاذَا بَعْدَ الْحَقِّ إِلَّا الضَّلَالُ فَأَنَّىٰ تُصْرَفُونَ

Such is Allah, your Lord in truth. So after the truth, what else can there be, save error? How then are you turned away?
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran