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EgunMogaji:
Looks very good, one of the regrets I have was not using 9 inchers for my fence.

6 and 9 have diff functions?. I didnt know that. Whats the implication of using 6 for fence?.

kopell:
No, I mean the entire building in and out including the fence.

Wait, let me understand you. You seem to be talking about building a house and fence it out, and you looking for who to give the job, correct?

Or you talking about the one i posted?

kopell:
Do the do plastering job to, I have one little plastering job, looking for whom to conceder for the job. Including fence in and out.

So you still trying to fence yours?. How Many plot is that and where?

brabus:
Not my quote o. Just an idea.

1" light pipe is N900 and you'll require 10 lengths at 150mm spacing in every 3m panel. That's just 9k. The frames and electrodes maybe another 9k.

Welder shouldn't take more than 4k per panel for welding and painting.

Thick pipe is 1300 per 18ft length but not good for outdoor installations. It rust quickly.

Now when you're doing more than 20 panels, there should be economic of scale. 1 gallon of paint can paint almost everything. 2 packets of electrodes etc. That's the area you make more savings.

I see. I'd rather leave this version of fence to Dangote . His quote self is not negotiable. By that, i mean, why should i when i can just fence for 811k. There is no way i can negotiate from 1.791k to less than a million. The gap is damn it.

kopell:
Wow look very good, when was this job done.

completed less than 2wks ago

kopell:
Pls where is this location if you don't mind,

Somewhere in Ogun state

Do the guy did the plastering @ that cost,

Excluded

anyway I will get in touch to see what he did.

See attachment.

If his cost is porker friendly with good finish, then I may need his service.

that's good

kopell:
My man are you sure 811k will pull that block fence for you, I don't think so. Pls tell whom ever gives you that quote, show you the cost step by step, quantity of material of every step. I can assure you at the end the job it will cost you over 1 million at the minimum. This is from experience ok.

Ok, let me throw in a little more info. This land in question is a plot and half with pre-existing neighbour's partial fence. That's discount number 1.

Besides, I have another land elsewhere in the same town which is a plot. It is this same contractor that fenced it for same quote, 811k. He told me when am ready to pay same amount for the plot and half as well. You want to see the quality job that 811k did for me?. It's even high that family members consider it waste of money. They thought i spent close to a #2m. I will show you at least 2 pix of the fence at your request.

sensegiver:
Ask him to break it down and show you how he arrived at that figure while you use Brabus's template as a guide during negotiation but take it with a pinch of salt.

you know you can also get quotes from other people or DIY.

Sure, I know.

mavverick:
Bros.

Am not surprised, it could be that the galvanise is imported from Turkey. Whereas the blocks can be ordered from Baba Lati down the road and they can use 911/land rover to deliver it sharply. Just one of the VERY GOOD examples of educating the audience, new concept and backing it up with the costs, so all man can make an informed decision.

At least I gave it a try

brabus:
A 3m iron fence panel using 1" square pipe with 2 x 4 frames can not cost you more than 20k per panel. And the perimeter is not more than 108m which means you need only 36 panel.

Do the maths! 36 panels x 20k = 720k. Add installation, transport and logistics at 10k per panel. That's 30k x 36 panels.

Your quote here though is reasonable

brabus:
Can you share the breakdown? I'm sure you can still have a plot of land done under a million.

A 3m iron fence panel using 1" square pipe with 2 x 4 frames can not cost you more than 20k per panel. And the perimeter is not more than 108m which means you need only 36 panel.

Do the maths! 36 panels x 20k = 720k. Add installation, transport and logistics at 10k per panel. That's 30k x 36 panels.

I didnt communicate with the dude directly. My brother got the quote from him.

sensegiver:
Is this the final quote after bargaining?

No, just the quote for now. There has been no negotiations so far.

Onuokwu:
If you are not looking for something fancy, you can try the iron wire mesh in picture. I believe it will be cheaper, serve the same purpose and reusable in multiple situations. It goes for between N18,000 - N20,000 for a roll of 20 meters. Of course you need to factor in the galvanized pipes to fasten it to.

brabus:
I don't have any pics to show you at the moment. It's been a while since I visited that area. But it's very similar to what you posted above.

Brothers, just got a quote for the iron fence i posted earlier, damn the quote is 1.791,000. Bricks (custom) Fence is 811k. Crazy difference!

Onuokwu:
If you are not looking for something fancy, you can try the iron wire mesh in picture. I believe it will be cheaper, serve the same purpose and reusable in multiple situations. It goes for between N18,000 - N20,000 for a roll of 20 meters. Of course you need to factor in the galvanized pipes to fasten it to.

oh wow, was looking for something like this earlier. However, it's better for me to use strong iron one time permanently. And I think the pix I posted earlier would be good for the job. You have idea the cost of such material?

brabus:
It's cheaper in the long run especially in waterlogged terrains.

A 3m wide panel ranges between 15 - 20k depending on material used. The best material is using galvanized angle iron though it's a little more pricey though.

The whole of LFTZ and Dangote refinery was fenced using the same material.

can you please post pictures of what you said here for clarification?

udatso:
As you have rightly said, the hadith has many versions. So it's actually unfair to judge him based on just one version

What I thought. Actually there is more to it. Op probably doesn't get the whole clue yet. Hopefully I will be back here to contribute.

And even if this is the only valid hadith to this effect, still does not in anyways relegates his status as kalifah. A kalifah does not denotes the most knowledge able nor are the kulafah infallible.

Hello people, what you do think of iron fence as alternative to bricks (nigerian custom). There is a plot and half commercial land i want to fence but I don't intend to build residential property on it.

The land may be used as community center in the future. So i don't think fencing it with bunch of blocks makes sense bcus I want the place to be transparent. But for now, in order to secure the land, I want to fence it using iron like they do in the West. Doesn't have to be very song solid iron though. But definitely as high as average fence in nija.

If I use bricks now and later I may have to demolish most part of that. That's ways of money. But even if I have to remove iron in the future it can always be reused.

So what's the cost effect compared to blocks?. Is iron fence reasonable in nigerian environment?

Thanks all

^ Mister usermane, you do not address the topic, sir.

Too much talks. Husband misconducts or demands is another topic. I was going to talk about that as well bcus relationships is 2-way street. But in this particular verse, we know what it is saying. There is no need to complicate it. Now, save me your epistle for a moment and give us your understanding of the verse. Quran gives 3 steps to solve the issue. Forget about local laws, cultures etc. JUST THE VERSE. What's your understanding of it?.

Thank You

^ I am coming back here Albaqir. You are very intelligent fellow. You clearly watched the 3 clips in detail from your analysis. Yes, remember i posted the videos about Najd by Sheik Imran Hussein and "converted2islam" brother, yellow beard young scholar as you put it a while back?.

Spyder880, how much the sliding gate cost you?

EgunMogaji:
That's the point but where do we start from?

I spend maybe 30 days in a year in Nigeria and can't really do much but those that spend 365 days are idling by wringing their hands and writing stories

I think the reason they don't care to do something about it is because cultural bondage.

abdulwastecx:
Here in the north we don't have problem of 'omo onile' . Youth here will be you to be involved as laborer or artisan.

We have too many hoodlums down south, people who want to make money without working. Government need to look into these miscreants

my point. I won't mind hiring them to work as laborers instead of getting free money. The thing is, there is not enough strong universal resistance against them. See the difference btw north and south. Even foundation diggers are mostly northerners as I understood it. Omo onile need to work for money, period.

brabus:
How many students police go kill? I handled one situation sometimes ago using stern-looking northeast mopos. Shockingly, the mopos were preaching peace and the Omo oniles were booing me saying "You just go waste our money carry mopo wey no shoot gun "

The best way to deal with Omo oniles is to be their friend. If you win them today, you'll have a bigger battle to contend with in the future. Get them on your side by shaking body for them.

No matter who you are or what power you may think you have. They are always the winner. If you think otherwise, ask Late DISU (Lekki Free Trade Zone Boss with all his armed security details)
http://www.channelstv.com/2015/10/12/lekki-free-trade-zone-boss-tajudeen-disu-shot-dead/

Lord have mercy. In that case I'd find me omo onile free zone to build. I don't want situation where them fellas go still follow me everywhere saying " owo meji loke f'enikan", "te ori mi mole koja". I guess with this post of yours my approach wont work either. It's all come down to govt to pass a bill banning this nonsense or simply cooperate and throway money to these lazy ass folks. Africa aint improving. This is a pathetic state

EgunMogaji:
They are not everywhere.

You won't find them in a lot of GRAs in Ibadan. I can tell you that they are not in Bodija GRA where Executives, Industry Leaders, Politicians, Military higher echelons reside in.

Also, there are many gated communities where you can't find them.

It's possible to avoid them and you mustn't buy virgin lands cause that's their bread and butter.

Like you I know for a fact that their time for comeuppance is coming.

An old man in my area bought 2 acres but ended up with only 1 plot, just imagine that. So I asked him how he was able to shoulder the loss. He told me all he lost was land but I should ask them what they lost I later asked around and found out that none of the omo oniles even with multiple wife has any surviving children, they all die either at childbirth or shortly thereafter

Ono kan owoja.

To be honest, personally, if I have to but land, I dont mean giving someone money to look and buy for me. I mean Me, I would not buy in known omo onile hood. I'd prefer GRA or gated community.

And what you said up there clearly shows that what omo onile designated is dispeakable. It's waste of resources to keep giving them money. I am sure this old man settled them and still lost that much of his acres

EgunMogaji:
I know of a better way for those of us in diaspora who doesn't have time to court vagabonds, but....

That's what I'm talking about. You just getting it. Ain't get no time for bs. I bought my land and that's. No one else

Once you get rid of "capo", the rest will back off

true2home:
The best way to deal with omo onile is to buy from gov period. The second best is to become omo onile yourself. When you are looking to buy in such crazy areas, first come and play in that area first. Eat dinner and drink at their local joints. Get to know who is the "Capo" and start doing the needy. Ones the know you and are familiar with you, then you tell one of them to help you look. Then you just show them the one you are interested in. They will look into it and guide you through. Thats how you become omo onile original!!!

You cracked my ribs @highlighted Them bad guys bear such bs name

Capo is their boss

44chux:
Warri asks for millions because you waited for the jobless youth to confront you on ur site.

If you go to the family head or his rep prior to commencement of project, each payment is usually between 20k to 200k per stage (foundation, decking & roofing) depending on the area. Some areas demand u use their engr/builder/workers hence u additionally use between 100k to 200k for total cut-off.

wtf is this?. My question still the same; why in the world I have to pay lazy sonvab!tches all these just bcus I want to build in their hood?. Listen, I think it's builders that allow them to flourish in the name of "I don't want trouble". Hey, I would cut off govt and secure my own thing. All these money being thrown away can be used to strengthen security around the site. I'm telling you, once a builder stands up to them, this sh!t would begin to desolve.

What do they use the money for, community or ogogoro, weed etc ?. Hell I won't pay. This is too much unnecessary burden on homeowners. This money giving to them can definitely provide 24/7 armed security around the site. Fence first, gate second, security third, projet begins. If the money paid to them gored towards community development lik better road(street), securing community etc, I won't mind. But on silly things that have no positive feedback is pretty much waset of resources.

lexiconkabir:
she is only just a woman...

yea, I know she's worried

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mufutau55:
I hope so o. I just make their budget with the usual costs. Recently I paid N350,00 for decking, and they still collected money from iron man, carpenter who did the form work, plumber, and the electrician. Then after about a month from paying for decking I had to pay N200,000 for roofing. Hopefully after the roofing I should not have problem with any of them again, but I heard usually after the roofing they will still come begging... but this time is begging if you can give them something.
It's better to just pay and move on... at least it's thousands in Lagos but in Warri they ask for millions... There is no Omo-Onile in my village though.

Hajji M.

Lord have mercy. At first highlight, you meant 350k? in addition to you decking cost?. LORD! 350k dashed for free, just like that?. No one wonder decking cost a lot more then. That means my friend was lucky. When he was decking his place, his dad only paid them 10k in Ogun state.

And additional 200k that has nothing to do with your roofing, given to those lazy $#ss for no real reason and they would still come back begging for more?. Must you build in the area?. What you spent on omo-onile is enough to buy blocks for 3 bedroom bungalow.

To be honest, this sh!t gotta stop. They are going to meet crazy builders eventually who wont give a fig leaf about them. Perhaps, it could be someone who hires private armed security men. Common now, if you have to spend that much on these sonofvab!tches, the money could used or spent ongenuine beggers or open a small grocery biz. These omo-onile, I am sure they spent the money on igbo. Waste of money for crying out loud


Do they also have "committee", "association of omo-onile"?. In that case, they may be fighting hard not to allow bill to pass against them.

P291:
Better you were Sir. Our lives matter most.

Mark 12:17. Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.

but I can understand paying them something at foundation. How about all other stages and even after completing project they still lock around like hajji mufu highlighted? . The sh!t is gotta stop

P291:
Do not try using army or mopol officers to hold them off. They will let you complete the project, and one night pull it down for you. Army won't be there after you have completed your building.
The best approach to omo-oniles is settling with the head of the group, and ,in turn fight your battles for you with the rest.

smh...I'm sick of this

And @Hajji mufu, I hope he's planning to eradicate them. It's long due. Brief story of the man who can't even be buried peacefully on his own lands of 50yrs should have been a close call. If looks like omo onile nationwide aren't facing strong, tedious resistance from builders. That's why they flourishing.