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Newnas:
[s]the way you this Sufi guy advertise your ignorance is preposterous and absurd.[/s]

For your information such statement of Ibn Umar is called marfoo' hukman المرفوع حكما!! copy it and paste in your search bar!
This is just a very basic term known to the students of hadith.

You really suck, I must confess to you.

you dont get it do you?

Our Shia brothers dont get it. It would have been bid'ah (of bad influence) if Umar (ra) had made it OBLIGATORY on muslims. I dont know why it is difficult for them to grasp.

This is very simple physics.

Quran records in Surah At-Tawba 128


لَقَدْ جَاءَكُمْ رَسُولٌ مِّنْ أَنفُسِكُمْ عَزِيزٌ عَلَيْهِ مَا عَنِتُّمْ حَرِيصٌ عَلَيْكُم بِالْمُؤْمِنِينَ رَءُوفٌ رَّحِيمٌ


"There has certainly come to you a Messenger from among yourselves. Grievous to him is what you suffer; [he is] concerned over you and to the believers is kind and merciful."

I quoted this verse to refresh their memory but unfortunately, they hold on to a solitary hadith of Umar of "good bid'aa" to proof it wrong.

parisbookaddict:
of course u aviod the truth

u are an islamist and terrorism sympathizer

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spyder880:
Thanks Sir, my village people just love it. Some guys has called me and spoken in praise of the roof.

Was just about to ask who you built this for. Then I decided to check op for confirmation. Sir, God bless you. This is like your second house if i am not mistaken. i remember following a thread of another multi-million # house in 2011 with your kids outside the house.

You really tried. Hard work pays off.

Good job mister. Nothing pretty than being in your own home.

spyder880:
The farther you move, the taller it looks........

This is profound. Type of roof i want on mine.

spyder880:
Oga lastpage another advantage is that people from the next village can see my roof from three kilometres away (happy weekend everyone)

How high(ft) this is please?

Blackfire:
...... Or is it the next tears sorrows and blood they will spill tomorrow in the name of al -ilah.

This Muslims can lie... Imagine calling a man LIE and u add MOHAMED to his name what do u expect from him... LiE LiE LiE.

Thanks for your contributions but no thanks. And please, remember to take your pill as you exit

parisbookaddict:
[s]Calm down ,you are already getting carried away with you own nonsense. The pill does not exist, its satire by a deluded fundamentalist organization that has had former members within it persecuted for funding and aiding terrorism,


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next thing one of your deluded Muslim brothers will argue that muhammad invented the pill because he foresaw how people one day will criticize Islam for being dangerous..

by the way u said u Muslims hate no one ...lol..... mr altaqqiyya
[b]
wow, tell that to the jews u almost wiped out of the middle east?

or is it the black north Africans u murdered and replaced with the incestuous Arab Muslim bloodline?

or is it the beautiful Egyptians and their artistic civilization u wiped out and replaced with the lazy Arab Muslim blood line?

or is it the northern Nigeria pagans that were decimated and forcefully converted to Islam and transported the sahara desert as slaves for centuries?

or is it the thousands of shias, u Sunni Muslims kill every year?

or is it the peaceful Buddhists u pushed to war all over the middle east ?

or is it the hindus killed for centuries in the attempt to seize India and convert that nation to Islam but u succeeded in carving out Pakistan and Bangladesh from it (both filthy Muslim countries now)

or is it the yadizi Christians u massacred this last 2 years alone?

or is it the 1 million Armenians mass murdered by the Muslim ottomans ?

or is it the Israeli school children and elderly people u kill in Israel yearly ?

need i remind u how muslims danced in the streets after 9-11?

or is it the thousands of Christians, Yorubas, igbos, u Muslims kill in the north yearly ?


mr Muslim keep leaving in ur deluded world but please not come here and lie that muslims hate no one[/b[/s]]

Abeg, take your preaching to vatican. This thread is not for this. Either take your pill and cool off or trash out

true2god:
English professor, we both spelt messenger wrongly. Anyway, we are not doing English lesson. I hate Islam but like Muslims. [s]I hate Islam because Mohammed (heat be upon him) hated, killed and commanded the killing of non-muslims. Do you need Quranic verses and the ha-death that sanctioned Mohammed's call for genocide against the infidels?[/s]

@bolded is rather silly. It is tactic employed by "Islamophobes" to create silly confusion and pretend to love muslims. You can't love adherent of faith and hate their faith at the same time. That's the most ridiculous thing have ever heard. The phrase "I hate Islam but like muslims" is pretty much evangelism tactic invented long ago. Below is short article written by intelligent man, Andrew Brown, to rubbish that nonsense of yours.

Read him below please.


[size=20pt]Why I don’t believe people who say they loathe Islam but not Muslims[/size]

It is a trope among people who loathe (hate) and fear Islam that their fear and loathing has nothing in common with racism because Islam is not a race, the implication being that hating Muslims is rational and wise whereas hating black people is deeply irrational and stupid.

Some people who claim that Islam is profoundly evil will also say that they bear Muslims no ill will but I don’t think they are telling the truth. It is really difficult and indeed psychologically unnatural to claim that you hate an ideology without hating the people in whose lives it is expressed. Religions, nations, and even races are all shared imaginative constructs (although nations and races have other characteristics as well) and if you really want to extirpate them, you must extirpate the people who imagine them as well.

I remember George W Bush https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_Iraq_War explaining that we were not going to war with the Iraqi people, but with the Iraqi government. Since then, something like a million of the Iraqi people have died as a result of our not going to war with them. The distinction is no doubt a great comfort to their surviving relatives but it’s not very useful for predictive purposes.


Racial and religious hatreds have one thing in common: they are not inspired by the race or religion of the hater, but by the religion or race of the victim. This is clearest in the case of antisemitism, which can appear as either a racial or a religious hatred, or indeed both. What’s constant is that it involves hating Jewish people, whatever the reasons given. Similarly, if you hate black people, you hate them on racist grounds whatever the colour of your own skin, and if you hate Muslims, Catholics, Quakers or Mormons, you hate them for their religion – whatever your own beliefs. So it is perfectly possible for religious hatred to be motivated by atheism and it may be quite common in the modern world.

Read The Rest: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2014/nov/05/islam-muslims-hate-ideology-racism

So true2god, your claim is baseless and irrational. Your fake "love" for muslim is TRASH!. Take your fake "love" and shove it. Leave op alone. He simply wants to be muslim and nothing is stopping him. He can read between the lines what you trying to do. He isn't a fool.

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truthmans2012:
What kind of spirit entered into you?

Why would they support you to create problem in the family ?

We have heard of a boy who was deceived to convert to islam and the next thing he did was go into the Church and beheaded his father.

Boy, don't allow Satan to preach islam to you. Jesus said "And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world as a witness to all nations and then the end shall come (Mat. 24:14). Jesus didn't tell us about islam, He said the Gospel should be preached till the end of the world, meaning islam is from the Devil.

[size=20pt]Liar with capital L[/size]

Leave the boy alone and take your drug here.

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true2god:
There is compulsion in Islam (Quran 8:39, Quran 9:29, Quran 98:6, Quran 9:5).

Op can see through your hate

He can see what u doing.

You think he's a fool

Anyways, pills are running out. Get yours really quick

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hericjames:
So I shold convert it is nt dat easy I have converted bt I pray I cn perform abulsion

Make it easy for yourself by mixing with muslims. May Allah make it easier for you. Ameena


How to perform wudu/ablution [with proof]


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hH14jeTG1Xc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ge0CnfFOQ8

Refutation of Those Who Abandoned Five {daily} Obligatory Salat


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xyQyi2gGuY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rv0UXMH7BNQ





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NypiGIojh4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYTu0WU3j3E

"Do you have a narration that specifically and explicitly prohibit nawafil in Jama’ah?! Please provide evidences…."


^


Thank you. I have asked them to provide evidence where taraweeh in congregation is prohibited by the prophet(saw).

Kendzyma:
Please,I don't no how to remove the Islamic oat on my profile..
I actually intended to comment on a particular thread on this section,but little did I no that have already accepted a oat form that will appear on my profile till infinity...
Please am not a Muslim..how can I remove it?.
And this is my first post on Islamic section...
Cc:maclatunji,empi.ree...

[size=40pt]Congratulations !!![/size]

Welcome To Islamic Den

I'm NOT Mod.

Mac is No Longer Mod either.

There is nothing you can really do as far as I know.

All you can do now is hola @holyspirit to take the cup away from you

Which post are you trying to comment on? .

Quote it and let's see how we can help.

The "Testimony of faith" will eventually disappear. For now, you are muslim don't get your bp high. It's all good, buddy. Does it hurt?

Loooool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91QEq8H3fZc

Ayat Of The Day

annunaki2:
Nobody hates anybody, it's the evil doctrine called Islam that causes so much sorrows, tears and blood that everybody hates passionately.

Thanks but no thanks. Dont forget to take your ISLAMOPHOBIN pill as you exit. Thank you

parisbookaddict:
i dont know how camel piss tastes.. since u are used to it , give me an idea..

The purpose of this pill is for people like you. You and true2god brought up camel piss. If you want to know if it has some piss in it, simply place your order from CAIR, take it and come back here to tell us how it tastes.

We dont need it because we hate no one.

parisbookaddict:
does the pill contain camel piss and milk as recommended by ur quack medical "prophet" muhammad.

you tell me after you have swallowed some

true2god:
Is it mixed with camel urine?

You can tell us after you have taken it.

annunaki2:
Very good question.

Remember to take yours while you exit

true2god:
When will Saudi Arabia stop Christianophobia and Jewophobia in their country?

Dont forget to take your medication

SubhannaLahi!

He explained Solati Fatih with some details


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPmX-ca19GA

Love his explanation

I think some people are now misrepresenting "isthighatha". I see bunch of videos after this debate titled "can we pray to the prophet after is death?". They placed the title under edited version of this debate. That's very wrong. That's not borne of contention. I dont think Asrar was talking about "praying to the prophet".

I just watched their debate "CONTRACT". That alone took over 2hrs before they reached agreement..LOL

Yea, Ustaz Rahman and his buddies did violate debate's conditions. Just that I am not worried about their worldly "contract or conditions".

And as I said earlier, the title of the debate is also inappropriate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NSK1VL7fGU

THIS IS A CONVINCE REASON WHY SHE EMBRACE ISLAM

1. Jesus christ when he was alive he never practice christianity, he only bring islam

2. Jesus was never mention anything like christian when he was alive. But in Al-qur'an GOD called us muslim like Qur'an 3:102

3. Jesus christ was never go to church when he was alive and there is no single verse in the bible that say go to church. But in Al-qur'an Allah says we should go to "jummuah"

4. There is no single verse in the bible where the word "BIBLE" is mention. But in Al-qur'an there was so many places where GOD mention Al-qur'an, like qur'an 4:82

5. There was no single verse where GOD or jesus says u should go to "jerusalem" But in the Al-qur'an GOD say in suratul hajj that we should go to hajj if we have the power to go

So, my brother & sister if islam is not the real way to salvation it will not be possible for millions of millions of millions of muslim today, from diffrent part of the word, from Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, we will all garder to mecca. At the back on one Imam, if imam say "Allahu Akbar" everybody will say "Allah Akbar" if imam bowed down everybody will bowed down for GOD. Because of what is in the book of {Zephaniah 3:9}, so what are we calling islam, we have 5 pillars of islam:

1. We should believe in oneness of GOD not threenity, is in the book of {Deutoronomy 6:4} also in the book of {Mark 12:28-29}

2. We should perfom solat {worship GOD} is in the book of {Nehemiah 8:4-6} & {matthew 26:39}

3. We should be paying "ZAKAT" is in the book of {Mark 12:41-42}

4. We should be fasting for GOD. Is in the book of {jeremiah 36:9}

5. We should be going to Hajj, is in the book of {Isaiah 2:2}

ISLAM IS THE ONLY — with Wahab Temidire.

THIS IS A CONVINCE REASON WHY SHE EMBRACE ISLAM

1. Jesus christ when he was alive he never practice christianity, he only bring islam

2. Jesus was never mention anything like christian when he was alive. But in Al-qur'an GOD called us muslim like Qur'an 3:102

3. Jesus christ was never go to church when he was alive and there is no single verse in the bible that say go to church. But in Al-qur'an Allah says we should go to "jummuah"

4. There is no single verse in the bible where the word "BIBLE" is mention. But in Al-qur'an there was so many places where GOD mention Al-qur'an, like qur'an 4:82

5. There was no single verse where GOD or jesus says u should go to "jerusalem" But in the Al-qur'an GOD say in suratul hajj that we should go to hajj if we have the power to go

So, my brother & sister if islam is not the real way to salvation it will not be possible for millions of millions of millions of muslim today, from diffrent part of the word, from Europe, Asia, Australia, Africa, we will all garder to mecca. At the back on one Imam, if imam say "Allahu Akbar" everybody will say "Allah Akbar" if imam bowed down everybody will bowed down for GOD. Because of what is in the book of {Zephaniah 3:9}, so what are we calling islam, we have 5 pillars of islam:

1. We should believe in oneness of GOD not threenity, is in the book of {Deutoronomy 6:4} also in the book of {Mark 12:28-29}

2. We should perfom solat {worship GOD} is in the book of {Nehemiah 8:4-6} & {matthew 26:39}

3. We should be paying "ZAKAT" is in the book of {Mark 12:41-42}

4. We should be fasting for GOD. Is in the book of {jeremiah 36:9}

5. We should be going to Hajj, is in the book of {Isaiah 2:2}

ISLAM IS THE ONLY — with Wahab Temidire.

peteregwu:
You are just waiting your time. Are you among the protocol officers that counted the 6000 converts?

That's your homework. It was christians that made the claim years ago not muslims.

By the way, remember to take your medication before they run out over the counter.
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AlBaqir:
Tarawih is Bid'ah.

In what sense exactly?. That rosululah didnt make congregation of it or that taraweeh and timing (after ishai) is bid'a, which one?

AlBaqir:
# First, group of Abd al-Rahman violated the contract signed by their Ustaz which they themselves have read. That's thuggery.

I am personally not concerned about worldly "contract" but it is understandable. I heard the debate should have taken place since January but because they could not reach agreement on the contract, that's why it kept postponed. The dude who posted about 5 hours video seems to give "victory" on the basis of "violations of the contract" rather than focusing on the permissibility of isthighatha.

# Second, their shout of "Allahu Akbar" is slogan of assumed victory over their opponent. Word of truth they shouted but evil was their intention.

Is it okay to say you also assumed here? That's what you did actually

# Third, the other group naturally responded to affirm the victory of their sheik with the very slogan of al-isthighatha, "ya Rasulullah".

I can undestand. It's like provocation but i still believe it is just PROPER to shout "Allahu Akbar" than later. Sends wrong message to viewers of tawheed. However, i dont see them violating shahada for shouting 'Ya rasululah'

Both violated the contract and showed immaturity. That is expected anyway. Islamic discussion might sometimes become emotional!

Yup, that's what happened.


Far as i am concerned, I was not taught Isthighatha growing up. Does that mean my grandfather who taught me at-tawheed doesnt know that?. Absolutely not. He was firm on Quran and sunna and he's Sufi ( awon alfa oni lawani gbangba). I forgot the local name they are called (their group). The old time classical name. My point, Isthighatha, I just heard for the first time last Ramadan from Sheik Rabiu and his explanation has absolutely nothing to do with Shirk. The thing however is, it is much better NOT to teach muridi (murid). They go overboard which is what salafis are concerned about. People can easily be misled. We see that clearly this days. They go to the grave and do all type of nonsense. If you warn them they quote hadith where rosululah (saw) said:

" I do not fear shirk for my Ummah after me"

They use this has proof that they arent committing shirk. Was surprised though when Ustaz rahman acknowledged tawasul of the prophet like the saying " Ola anobi wa Muhammad" i:e with glory of the prophet which many salafis consider shirk. Sheik faisal in his 2008 lecture after visiting Ibadan, he said many Nigerian muslims involve in shirk by saying that statement and making tawasul of the prophet.

Anyways, Isthighatha should DEFINITELY be properly coordinated for the safety of the deen. There are people who go overboard. That's why I believe my grandpa didnt teach us. After all, it is not necessary. It is only permissible. It is mustahab.

AlBaqir:
^Empi.ree, your assumptions are too much. If I say the Salafi guy is just blah blah blah, did I meant his accusations of Shi'a? Even Asrar is against Shi'a too. I only wonder how you think sometimes.

# The Salafi Ustaz started is blah blah (to make cheap point) by saying "those on this side (reference to himself and his cult) advocate to call Allah alone, and those on this side (reference to Asrar) say call upon other than Allah".
That is very silly. Asrar made clear definition out of the meaning of Isthighatha and the Salafi guy confirmed isthighatha (as halal) "during the lifetime of the Prophet and on Qiyamat".

Yea, I condemned the way he segregated them. Not fair at all. He passed wrong message like that.

# He made fruitless efforts (blah blah blah) to weaken some of the ahadith submitted by Asrar

Well, I wont say 'fruitless'. He simply doesnt seem to understand isthighatha. It is just proper for any muslims to argue with verses of Quran he cited against isthighatha.

# He falsely attributed his Salafiyah to al-Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Asqalani. That is outrageous.

Yea, i heard that but I am not familiar with al-Hafiz ibn Hajar al-Asqalani. Is he in support of isthighatha?

# He falsely attributed the concept of isthighatha to a "Shia" but the Sheik was NEVER a Shia. I dare him proving it.

Now you talking. That's why i assumed you trashed him cus he wanted to make cheap point by driving shia into the mud.

# He tried to established a part of Tawheed for the Mushriqun (liken Muslims who practice isthighatha to them). Alhamdulillah Asrar affirmed if you believe in a part of Tawheed and not the other, it negates each other. Mushriqun is Mushroqun.

Yea, i tried to figure that out. It does sound confusing to me at first. I think he's determined isthighatha is shirk. But I was surprised at the end when he distinguished isthighatha to mean positive and negative.

# He erroneously or mistakenly or pretend (just to make cheap point) to disregard Hayat Barzakhi and blindly arguing that Asrar "do not believe" in the worldly death of the Prophet. Alhamdulillah, in my view, Asrar rubbished him completely on that.

Yes, Asrar did rubbish that. He tried to impose his view that Asrar and co dont believe in worldly death of the prophet(saw). Asrar explained it clearly at the end that "we believe the prophet is dead and buried in Medina munawara and he is in his grave". He also argued that Rasululah is categorized with shaheed according to the verse of sura Imran.

I can go on and on. Since it is better to watch than posting summary, everyone (viewers) deserves his/her own conclusion. So bros Em.piree stop making wrong assumptions (avoid it even if it is right unless you are 100% certain).

I made assumptions because, unlike the dude that posted the video, you should have left the readers and viewers to voice their opinion. But the way you castigated Ustaz Rahman would suggest that he's automatically incorrect before we even viewed the video. That's what the poster did by saying Asrar won the debate. Winner or losers should be audience opinion.