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Annunaki:[size=15pt]Answer:[/size] And this Qur'an is not such as could ever be produced by other than Allah (Lord of the heavens and the earth), but it is a confirmation of (the revelation) which was before it [i.e. the Taurat (Torah), and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.], and a full explanation of the Book (i.e. laws and orders, etc, decreed for mankind) - wherein there is no doubt from the the Lord of the 'Alamin (mankind, jinns,and all that exists). Say: "If the mankind and the jinns were together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they helped one another." [Qur'an 17:88] And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Qur'an) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful. [Qur'an 2:23] Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it?" Say: "Bring then a surah (chapter) like unto it, and call upon whomsoever you can, besides Allah, if you are truthful!" [Qur'an 10:37-38] Or they say, "He (Prophet Muhammad(P)) forged it (the Qur'an)." Say: "Bring you then ten forged surah (chapters) like unto it, and call whomsoever you can, other than Allah (to your help), if you speak the truth!" [Qur'an 11:13] Or do they say: "He (Muhammad(P)) has forged it (this Qur'an)?" Nay! They believe not! Let them then produce a recital like unto it (the Qur'an) if they are truthful. [Qur'an 52:33-34] |
cckris:Sorry, you did not answer my question. You slideline |
Annunaki:Who is the author of Quran? |
Scholar8200:Did Luke meet Jesus Christ?. If answer is no, can you be so sure his account is accurate? |
cckris:What is all these. I asked simple question. This is what I asked: Good. You bold enough to admit that. Now, next question is, which of the bibles is MOST accurate direct word of God or Jesus?Or I should say which Bible is correct account of Jesus?. I dont need everything you said up there |
Rilwayne001:Barnabas is the same junk like uncle Luke and others ![]() |
Scholar8200:Dont you see you are being unfair by highlighting just that part to confuse readers? You forget these are histories and the nation in question know and have some of these as part of it handed down by their ancestors!!!That's your OT Research? I knew what I was saying when I said it is not your forte! You made the claim, so prove itEvidences are glaring. It is up to you to do the needful. You might be a good candidate to debate with ACADIP openly. Perhaps, your eyes will come to light at the end of debate. |
Rilwayne001:It looks like scholar8200 doesnt get it. He thinks we hold Gospel of Barnabas at high esteem. I told him several times that we only extract what is in harmony with Quran just like we do to other Gospels. But he insists like we believe in Gospel of Barnabas like Quran. I dont understand him and malvis sometimes. |
Scholar8200:Again, other Gospels, contradict themselves, Christians practices contradict bible, Bible also contradicts Christians practices. So is there any difference?. Even, in my opinion, Gospel of Barnabas probably denied "messiah" because the word is misused or misunderstood by Christians. Like when malvis says messiah also means God. It's probably the reason Barnabas said so. Either way, According to Quran, Jesus is messiah. Messiah does not mean God We should rather wonder why the wide acceptance by muslims without knowing its contents! This smacks off desperation.In as much Gospel of Barnabas denies Sonship and Lordship of Jesus, it will be used by muslims becuse that aspect is in harmony with true message of Jesus and Islam. simple, isnt. It denies the Messiah being Jesus, do you believe that? There are better ways to seek for truth! Holding on to a book like this for ANY reason reflects badly on those who do so.But you believe other Gospels that deny prophets of God not being prophets, like Solomon etc. You believe in blasphemous passages in other Gospels ridiculing God and His messangers like accusing a prophet of incest, being drunk and the list goes on. So I ask, what's the difference? Mention them and what/how the RSV claims to correct. I dont normally quote your Quran nor copy and paste from web since I dont know much except for the ones gleaned from NL; however, the Bible and its origin, the battles for truth and the miraculous preservation is not your (or any NL muslims') forte hence I would not that we waste time on that!Unfortunately, this is your assignment. You hold it to yourself to research on it. There is a reason is it called [size=15pt]Revised Standard[/size] version |
Scholar8200:That's one of the many discrepancies we Muslims talk about. Go understudy the book and what some of your ustadh are saying about it before you fight for it!You keep saying this as if I am defending Barnabas. I have said time and again that we only deduce from this Gospel as well just like we did to other Gospels. The reason Muslims talk about Gospel of Barnabas is that it denies Lordship and Sonship of Jesus which is in harmony with Quran. That's the most important aspect in Christendom and the borderline btw the two religions. Such as?[/quote]Bunch of them. Go back to the thread we recently had debate. We made lots of references there. |
Video Of The day (extract) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yqx8nzczr6E Video Of The day {Full} https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp4Qsg9pkAE |
cckris:Good. You bold enough to admit that. Now, next question is, which of the bibles is MOST accurate direct word of God or Jesus? |
malvisguy212:This nonsense was trashed in rilwayne's thread. Do you have other defenses? |
malvisguy212:Is Bible your first and primary source of knowledge or not? |
cckris:Read further here https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/7 Mr King James defender, read this https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/8 How do you feel after reading it? |
malvisguy212:Read again |
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malvisguy212:Lol. Hadith is the sayings attributed to the prophet of Islam(SAW). It is not a protected and guaranteed book. We never said it is. Here, we talking about Quran. We say Quran is God's perfect Holy Book. It is the first and primary source of guidance in Islam You also said Bible is word of God and Bible is primary source in Christendom. But then, you have plenty of contradicting Gospels but we have one Quran. See what i am talking about?. So we are competing primary source of guidance from both religions. We are not talking about other sources for now. Quran is the only guarantee Book in the world. Can you boost of this with Bible? |
See world of confused women. This type of women eventually make their husbands become thugs. Sometimes women dont know what they want. Women love thugs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy1DWizK_2Y |
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malvisguy212:muslims do not claim gospel of Barnabas is 100% authentic. We simply deduce from it same way we deduce from others. Now Gospel of Barnabas says Jesus is NOT God and NOT son of God. Do you agree with that or not?. Why Christians Hidden Gospel Of Barnabas http://www.jesus-islam.org/Pages/WhyhaveChristianshiddenthegospelofBarnabas.aspx |
Scholar8200:And how is Barnabas a failed bible? ....because it contradicts some of your doctrines? . Aren't other Gospels failed too? How about Gospel Of Judas, ever heard of that? . It defers with kjv and others as well. Havent you guys no sense to have figured this out. King James deficiencies gave birth to RSV. And yet you guys still telling us bible is the truth? |
parisbookaddict:And other Gospels weren't forged?. Are they any better?. With all the confusions and discrepancies in uncles Mathew, Mark Luke and John, are they any better than Barnabas?. Even your so called most reliable Gospel called KJV is full of "Holy" crap Right now, at the time of this post, there are currently some 62 different Bibles. You have no credibility whatsoever. We already discussed everything in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible Even a well mannered christian, scholar8200 put up his efforts recently but failed |
KayGold001:That's understandable. Some companies have different policy. That's my concern. Besides, you arent op. Was also going to ask how long it takes for delivery in SW/. |
Quote Of The Day “Don’t be in a hurry to condemn because he doesn’t do what you do or think as you think or as fast. There was a time when you didn’t know what you know today.”— Malcolm X |
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Annunaki:This thread is about Christians are losing faith in quantity, and finding out Islam, the ONLY acceptable WAY. What's your take on this? |
Just dropping this comment so that i can always come here for updates. I need to keep track of some appliances here. Op, question for you. When it comes to pay on delivery, how does that work?. I may need to have appliance delivered to old woman in Ogun state and she will pay cash. I dont want to bother her or anyone shopping out there for this. Thanks |
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