felixomor:

Yeah bro.
He has also already exposed himself here.

Don't you think we should enlighten the world about the mystery of Jerusalem?
They are wondering why the Christians are happy about Trump's declaration.
I am in particular happy because I know bible's prophecies are being fulfilled, Christ's second coming is imminent and the rapture is moments away!
I can't wait to be caught up in the rapture and forever be with my God, what Joy! what Glory!!
This is a call to Seun and his human instruments who detest God and His people to re-think and re-trace their steps for He will surely come again and judge the wicked and haters. Let all return to Hime with their whole hearts.
He has sworn that heaven and earth may pass away but not a jot of His word will go unfulfilled!

felixomor:

Sha answer the question

My Bro, don't tell me you haven't identified that 'mujahid'
There was a time he went about derailing Christian threads on this platform.
He should be avoided like leprosy. He detests Christians and anything that brings Glory to our Christ.
He doesn't offer any intelligent reasoning save to derail threads and kill op's intentions.

Nicey20:
Why should I? I am busy getting endued with another encounter with a more sure word.

Word!!!
We are just too busy breaking new grounds

MakeADifference:
When one man devotes all his attention to something that doesn't affect or concern him, when he raises and incites "mob" action against others. When he labels a group of people - Sheeple, and publicise a hashtag #FreeTheSheeple etc. All that isn't anything like criticism. It is an attack, a provocation, and nuisance.

Pls don't stress over that God Hater, Otem
They all follow their master's instruction.
@ Otem, ask Seun, he knows God has prepared a day for you all!
You will surely stand before Him speechless.

MakeADifference:
The same thing that protects the fundamental rights of others.

I love your response. Epic boss!
Some people are just too unlearned to learn.

geoworldedu:
I dreamt today and I saw Jesus Christ burning and yelling in Hell Fire. Jehovah his father is laughing at him in hell. Seems he isn't affected by the fire.

I swear that is what I saw!!!

You dont need to swear. I understnd it's the devil's ministry you are in.
I'm not amazed you are doing just fine in it cos He must have poured on you a double portion of his spirit
The devil takes all glory over you.
Let the simple be informed that this man is always in his right senses...He is just doing the bidding of his master!
At the right time, the master and the servant shall both have their part in the hell seen in the dream.

MsNgo40:
Honestly,
I was gonna keep mute myself....but Julivas you have been very deceptive.
I know people won't understand....but God knows...
Anybody who has read my posts on NL know that I have been brutally honest about who I am, my struggles with character flaws and my desire to serve Christ.
But as I am sincere and honest with people, I expect the same.
I despise fraud....
I hate hypocrisy.
I hate liars.
And that is what i have experienced with u.
Who you portray yourself to be on NL is NOT who u have been portraying to me on Whatsapp.
U are a "staunch" Christian yet never once have u invited me to any Christian group on Whatsapp.
U get gospel songs but lie to me each chance u get....please don't let me go there.
U kept claiming "I love u...." blah blah blah.
U wanted me to get u a laptop....and when i didn't u were through with me.
You looked me up online..and even called out a name you believed to be my blood sister.
I have asked for a pic for over 1 month now...and u claimed u couldn't put one up...yet u kept begging me for more pics (some of which would be inappropriate)...
Hence the reason I created some posts about character....
Was trying to be discreet.
Now I am not....i'm being blunt.
And the guys over in the travel section wonder why i am triple cautious.....
This is not Christlike.....but trying to speak to u privately has not worked.
I know i may be banned...and alienated because of this....
I reallt don't want to leave NL cauae I keep getting "yahoo" or "sakawa" boys....
I know folks will consider me "crazy"...and I apologize to those who are following or have held me in high regard. Perhaps you folks can pray for me....
Because what, folks, u are seeing now is a human being who has once again been deceived...and it hurts.
It's never okay to deceive or mistreat someone deliberately. I come from a different culture..but ad Christians....things should be done so much differently.
Hence the reason so many people become atheists.

Sir, you need to be honest....cause even if people don't know and will never know...
God does....

P.S. For your info sir,
This is why i will NEVER embarass him (u know who)...he's not totally false. I may disagree with him a whole lot, but he is who he is and not phony.
I saw what u did....very sneaky move...but God always brings things to light.

Now I understand the quote.
The Lord is your Strength.
Remember 'a righteous man falleth seven times yet rise the again'...
I am sure for you 'affliction shall not rise a second time'..
My sister, I'm praying for you that your Faith won't fail. Amen!

MsNgo40:
Honestly,
I was gonna keep mute myself....but Julivas you have been very deceptive.
I know people won't understand....but God knows...
Anybody who has read my posts on NL know that I have been brutally honest about who I am, my struggles with character flaws and my desire to serve Christ.
But as I am sincere and honest with people, I expect the same.
I despise fraud....
I hate hypocrisy.
I hate liars.
And that is what i have experienced with u.
Who you portray yourself to be on NL is NOT who u have been portraying to me on Whatsapp.
U are a "staunch" Christian yet never once have u invited me to any Christian group on Whatsapp.
U get gospel songs but lie to me each chance u get....please don't let me go there.
U kept claiming "I love u...." blah blah blah.
U wanted me to get u a laptop....and when i didn't u were through with me.
You looked me up online..and even called out a name you believed to be my blood sister.
I have asked for a pic for over 1 month now...and u claimed u couldn't put one up...yet u kept begging me for more pics (some of which would be inappropriate)...
Hence the reason I created some posts about character....
Was trying to be discreet.
Now I am not....i'm being blunt.
And the guys over in the travel section wonder why i am triple cautious.....
This is not Christlike.....but trying to speak to u privately has not worked.
I know i may be banned...and alienated because of this....
I reallt don't want to leave NL cauae I keep getting "yahoo" or "sakawa" boys....
I know folks will consider me "crazy"...and I apologize to those who are following or have held me in high regard. Perhaps you folks can pray for me....
Because what, folks, u are seeing now is a human being who has once again been deceived...and it hurts.
It's never okay to deceive or mistreat someone deliberately. I come from a different culture..but ad Christians....things should be done so much differently.
Hence the reason so many people become atheists.

Sir, you need to be honest....cause even if people don't know and will never know...
God does....

P.S. For your info sir,
This is why i will NEVER embarass him (u know who)...he's not totally false. I may disagree with him a whole lot, but he is who he is and not phony.
I saw what u did....very sneaky move...but God always brings things to light.

Now I understand the quote.
The Lord is your Strength.
Remember 'a righteous man fillets seven times yet rise the again'...
I am sure for you 'affliction shall not rise a second time'..
My sister, I'm praying for you that your Faith won't fail. Amen!

[quote author=MsNgo40 post=62629595][/quote]
Really long time sis.
On the issue, I'm clear and unyielding.
The purpose isn't in consonance with biblical injunctions
Dating and Building relationship with God can't stand together: It's like creating a foothold for the devil!
That's why the first time, she got the wrong audience.
Please check her posts you will see why I made this stand.

Akin1212:


You are the one who seems lost.

Well, I don't know if the OP has the Devil as his father though, but you shouldn't have been so ignorant to the extent of assuming that atheists have the devil as their imaginary father.

We simply don't subscribe to beliefs that your imaginary sky daddy, God and his gay partner, the Devil exist. We don't give a fuck_ about any of them because they only reign forever in your small skull.

How can the devil help in bringing about what God has planned already? God planned the death of his son or himself, whichever it is, the Devil was not around at that time lol, or was he?

The son or God himself was not aware and he cried why had God forsaken him? Or why the fuck_ was he surprised on the cross? Lol

If atheism is making you zealous, don't you think you are the one who is sick? Continue going crazy for Jesus, I hope he replicates it for you too, lol. After all, you are going to be his bride, aren't you?

Yes, the church and Christ lives on in the mind of fools who are nearing extinction. Or you haven't heard?

Young Man, if you are sure God doesn't exist, then act it!
You just wasted your vocabulary, data and energy making a worthless point on a pointless issue. What does that say of you?
Hey, don't get bloated, you are just one more ignorant man who lives for nothing more than himself!

hopefulLandlord:


OP is not an atheist, now find another strawman to knock down

He can only seem worse than one!

geoworldedu:
Going by what Jesus said, he should have returned since 2000 years ago. He said that before his disciples finish preaching in Jerusalem he would return. He said that before that generation won't pass away before he would return. He said that he went to prepare a place for his disciples and he would return after preparing. It's more than 2000 years already and he's still preparing that place? Where are the disciples he is preparing that place for now? Are they still inside the grave awaiting Jesus to finish preparing the place?

IS JESUS LOST IN SPACE?
Please what do you think people?

You couldn't do better!
To know that you do this of your own volition baffles me.
I conclude then that you must be so obsessed about this Jesus that you speak of him more than some Christians on this forum.
I'm challenged to speak more about Him.
The more darts you throw, the crazier I get for Jesus! You and your cohorts in atheism have majorly become my reason for my new zeal, passion and enthusiasm for God and His Work!
It's therefore obvious that you have become the Christian's tool to further the gospel...No wonder your Father the devil not knowing the plans for redemption in Heaven assisted in raising the Jews against Christ and ensure His death...If your Father was a tool to achieve God's redemptive purpose, I bet your are just one more little tool!
The Church lives and Christ reigns forever! You can't change this forever!!

Seun:
Focusing on souls that can be converted into tithe-paying members of Deeper Life church will bring in more money on the long run. Smart.

Update: Apologies to those who were offended.

In the natural, you have acted like a true leader and matured man. Kudos!
But honestly, your apology is to mortal men and who are we to take offence?
Ild rather you give God place in your heart...Repent and submit your talents...You will find life everlasting.
You are a great man on earth...You deserve greatness on the other side...You need Jesus!
May God help you find him. Amen!

It is appointed unto man once to die, after this is judgement!

superhumanist:


Open your eyes. What was gained when nairaland was more religious?

What do we even enjoy with christianity in Nigeria? Our country is still corrupt and backwards. Other countries that are not religious are better.

Please, your preaching holds no ground.

It's because you don't have spiritual insight and knowledge sir.
God doesn't work with groups, he does with individuals. He has no covenant with nations but individuals.
Under the new covenant, he says 'let him that is hungry come, let him that is a thirst come'...He didn't call them but him as an individual.
If you want a better life, seek God!
Our country is corrupt because leaders and followers individually yielded their lives to it. What about you? In your office, home, business, are you clean? Our country is backward because individually we have all contributed negatively to it..If I may ask, do you pay ur tax? Have you ever been involved in exam malpractice? How often have you borrowed money and never returned?
Bro, if we individually set our hearts to do right, Nigeria will be great!
We all individually make up this soon to be great nation...Let all act responsibly and contribute positively!

OtemSapien:
You have obviously been deceived.
Yes there are pastors who get paid stipends, but these ones are not the main pastors or the pastorpreneurs, they are mere workers in the organisation. The real pastors and pastorpreneurs are the ones chopping the money. Imagine, churches like deeper life will collect tithe and offering and send the whole Money to the headquarter church for kumuyi an the other ogas on top to flex while the small small pastors under them are languishing in poverty. They were not even called pastors until recently sef.

You need to know that your efforts are futile.
As it concerns the Church of God, you are but a noise maker!
You aren't a stakeholder.
You are a God Hater like your Father, the devil...
Ask him to tell you truth, all of you are in a lost battle!
Tithe became a problem when God glorified His Church with prosperity and respect....Tithes are paid by us...Don't stress, we are fine!! Are you

petra1:


You’re right A man can’t be redeemed twice

You just killed the devil in the man!

Daviddson:
Let's reclaim this Section from the atheists! We can.

Light doesn't struggle with darkness.
When Light comes, darkness leaves....Its no War!
An atheist who violently and tenaciously propagates his beliefs owns this platform, this section was created by him also, it's obvious why it seems Christianity is contending with Atheism.
Atheists are on a mission, as ordered by their Father, the devil to silence Christians from having their faith spread on social media like this but they failed many many years ago.
The Victory is surely ours. We have never struggled with the devil, we rubbish him at will!
Be sure God has been active via this same section, touching the sinners and uplifting the believers...Atheism is only a distraction by the devil, we are not ignorant of his devices, he has using the same old tactics of lies, deceit and distraction since inception...We should just ignore him and keep up the Work of Faith!
The Church is matching on and the gates of hell can never prevail! Amen!!
Seun and all who have laid down themselves as tools in the hands of the devil to deceive the simple, lure the concerned, confuse the young believers, mock the Church and insult the Christ, the battle is still the Lord's!
Be sure all that it is appointed unto man once to die, after this, it's judgement!

superhumanist:



Change is the only thing that is constant.

Accept that it is no longer the time of christianity dominating religious topics.

Nigerians are fed up with modern christianity. Tithe frauds, perverted pastors, arrogant pastors, fraudulent churches, private jets etc.


Atheism and irreligion are here to stay

Sure it would stay.
For broad is the way that leads to eternal damnation, narrow is the way that leads to life eternal but few be them that find it.
Thank God I found it!
He that would stay in darkness after he has seen the Light, let him...He that will come out of darkness to the Light, let him...For He has sworn that 'time is no more'

Hier:
Loooooool, well, I don't know what to say

You are right bro

But, like Jesus said, the harvest is plenteous and the labourers are not really finding it easy.

I want to blame it on religion though.

I think most of our Pastors today are not equipped to equip, Paul told Timothy, 2 Tim2:2, the things I have committed unto you, the same commit unto faithful men
.first of all, we hardly see evangelism like its were

secondly, those evangelising often are not preaching Christ, they preach come to my church on Sunday

I will say, the fault is not from NL, but different background, am not saying am better off, I was once one God freak, truth be told, many hope have been shattered. And NL is fuelling it. Paul said, am not ashamed of the gospel, many Christian feel if they are still not holy, they can't preach the gospel, well, they are correct, 1 Corinthians 9:27.

The point is, many Christians are battling with sin and they don't like the guilt that follows, upon that, pastor is not preaching how to use your prayer life and faith confession and believers authority and who they are in Christ to address or profer solutions.

Upon that, the Bible is too good, you hear of healings, raising the dead and signs that shall follow and you are not seeing one, and even when we notice or experience one, our religious pastors are there on their religious pulpit, preaching that the miracles in some churches are staged, and many in the church are like, can we still experience all this miracle, and unfortunately, the guy back then with all his inability to overcome sin, coupled with a sincere and undefeated personal conviction on who God is. Decides to look for answers on platform like this where, when you comment, 15 athiest are attending or twisting your comment. At a point, that white, gets black, until it's dark and an athiest is born

Good Morning bro
Can we have an honest discussion on these points you raised?
Ild appreciate if you create time. Thanks.

OliveCynosure:

Wait, are you an atheist?

Seun is a God Hater but God's Children are not deterred.
He isn't our mentor, Christ is!

Seun:

I just wanted people to be aware that soul-winning benefits churches by increasing their recurring income. It's not an entirely sacrificial act.

You are myopic sir.
I mean you couldn't even see beyond your nose and popular knowledge.
Soul winning benefits first the object - the convertee cos he has eternity in view
second the subject - the converter cos he has eternal rewards
Evidently then, church growth is just a right consequence with responsibility to ensure that the convertees are nurtured and brought up according to sound doctrine and godly principles. Tithe and Offering is an evidence of a vibrant and sacrificial Christian Life. If God gave His Son, Christ gave His Life, we reciprocate by giving our ALL. Money is just one of the things we give: We give our time, talent, strength, Life, goals, ambitions, desires.
Seun, you can be an IT guru or one of the brightest and richest young entrepreneurs, I make it bold to say that you are spiritually empty and be sure that a life without Christ will end empty and damned for all eternity!

Come Lord Jesus, Come!!!

sonofluc1fer:

Really? Your Jesus has not been back since. Three nails and that was it. HE only Lives in your head. Satan won. Look around you.

No the world is limited in knowledge and deluded by your Father's falsehood.
The Paradox of the Cross: Three nails and the devil was doomed for defeat forever!
That's the Victory we have!
Now we rule, we reign and have dominion.
You need to know the devil is ruined forever!

Smartini:
The young man kept promoting the Deeper Life church despite still categorically stating he's not a Deeper Life member... What proof have we that he isn't a Deeper life member or an undercover church marketer?

What is that to you?
Away with your opinion sir, it sounds like Christian Truth offends you also!

sonofluc1fer:

That you are even asking this shows the sorry state Christianity is in today. It's all about money. Let's not pretend you give a damn or care about any of those 'poor' people. They are just numbers to you.

Hope you will follow them up after the program is over.


In other words, thinking like a slave and offering yourself as dumb sheep should be encouraged. Well done, I prefer to think properly. Christian thinking is generally not at all productive. I hear y'all are trying to crack some tithe codes Yahweh handed to Moses in some wilderness in faraway Asia. And you call yourselves wise?

Son of Who?
Even your Father tried but He failed.
The Church is matching on and the gates of hell can't prevail
In Jesus Name, let the host of hell fall before the Church...Amen!

Seun:
Focusing on souls that can be converted into tithe-paying members of Deeper Life church will bring in more money on the long run. Smart.

From someone like you, it couldn't be better said.
God and His Church are far ahead!
Haters make us stronger! The more the obstacles, the greater the Strength and Grace.

ScepticalPyrrho:
Are you an atheist?
It seems you don't believe the Christian God can raise the dead.

I don't share my beliefs with a God hater.
What is it to you if the Christian God raises the dead?
God's Works are sacred, we don't throw them before you as object of mockery as your mentor the devil would.
So you may find a better thread to jump at!

ScepticalPyrrho:
Waow! God is good.
Can I bring my dead grandma for ressurrection?

No you shouldn't!
God doesn't exist, why would you?

bennyann:
I decided to visit this section today and na so so topics on tithe I see. What's happening?


Back to the thread, I also await testimonies that will shut the mouth or "fingers" of geoworldedu

He won't get any.
He is an enemy of the Church and we won't join issues with him.
We will never cast our pearls before swines!!!