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spillo1:
You logic is easy to decode. Pep ruined them with his rubbish style and now they are trying to get far away from his nonsense. What rubbish peaked? The Bayern team were young and hungry.

Hahaha haha.

Young and Hungry.

Ok Pep left 2015/16.

That is almost 4 years ago.

That is enough time to prove the team had not peaked.

Use RM as a case study.

airmark:
l

Vector successfully proved MI to be a liar, with that rebuttal.

I hope you have googled about Milli, aftermath of leaving MI. I just read that he had to pay millions before he could be released from CC.Milli himself confirmed this now.

I hope blaq gives himself a brain.

LOL.

Proven to be a liar? That Jesse Jagz left CC on his own because of Audu Maikori and MI did a song begging him to come back?

That Milli signed a contract and wanted to breach it just like what Daniel Levy told anyone who wanted Poch, you will pay off the rest of his contract to have him.

What does it have to do with MI? Is MI a lawyer?

spillo1:
Guardiola took a team that went to three finals in 4 yrs and fresh from winning a treble to getting disgraced regularly in the Champions league. What do you call such a coach?

So Mou was not getting disgraced? How then did he not make the final?

spillo1:
Why won't you claimed they peaked when pep couldn't reach the heights of jupp or even Van gaal by reaching a champions league final.

The logic is easy to prove. Because even after Pep nobody reached that same height (in fact went lower). And now Bayern are trying to rebuild. Hence the Gnabry, (trying to sign Sané), etc etc

airmark:
Did I put a stroke after the line? If i write a line for you, you won't even understand it, what's the point?

Like many MI fans, you can't think deep.

What does fly over have to do with midgets?

Lol

You are talking about thinking deep and stanning for Vector

kendrick93:
pep success lol...
Eto'o was there times African best,third runner ,two times fifpro xi all this he achieved before pep came.
Henry was multiple times golden boot Pl winner,he was possibly the best striker in the world which is why barca paid good fee for him...
Messi has already been heralded to be the second coming of maradona...
Oh yes but it was all saint pep's work...
Can you sing another lie please

Your argument is stupid.

These same players were there when they went trophyless abi?

So how did a team with these players + Ronaldinho go trophyless. Then you sell Ronaldinho and become favourites?

Did Chelsea become favourites after selling Hazard?

spillo1:
There was nothing impressive about pep 3 league titles at Bayern. He did the bare minimum. Man was a failure.

Bare minimum.

But Jupp did not get that memo when he won nothing his 2nd season?

spillo1:
Before Mourinho won the league at Madrid,they had only won one league title in 4yrs. Are you disputing that ?

Hahaha

airmark:
You know rap more than me? You that bars fly over your head like a midget?

Go and google about Milli and his interviews after he left MI. Stop arguing blindly.

The more you post the more I rate you even lower and lower.

Fly over your head like a midget? Is that supposed to be a punchline?

kendrick93:
don't be dumb,prove me wrong....Let me help you
Tevez 2008/9 season 51 apps 15 goals
Ronaldo 53apps 26 goals
Rooney 49apps 20goals
Barca front three
Samuel eto'o 52apps 37 goals
Lionel messi 38goals 51 apps
Henry-26 goals

Oh Lordie Lord.





Just hide somewhere..you are not making any sense.

airmark:
You argue needlessly, go and ask Milli what he said about MI ruining his career.

Airmark, how can I show you I know these things more than you?

Ruined his career. The SA record label he is with now are they also ruining it as well?

sleekdot:
That is because Bayern team peaked in 2013 and the only way forward was downwards

How come Mourinho didnt make the CL final with Madrid while his successors made it

Chai you beat me to it.

I was trying to lure him into this and then hitting him on his head.

spillo1:
Lol before Mourinho came Barca won the league thrice in a role. That is one in 4yrs.

Lies.

kendrick93:
The barca trio was also the most prolific trio in Spanish league history, scoring 72 goals and surpassing the 66 goals of Real Madrid's Ferenc Puskás, Alfredo Di Stéfano and Luis del Sol of the 1960–61 season...
They scored over 100goals in that season between the three of em

Kendrick Daftmar. DAMN!

You are still using what Pep achieved to argue about what Barca were before Pep came.

Men are talking here.

spillo1:
The same excuses you gave pep for not getting to any champions league final like the 2 former coaches did also use it for them. For the six seasons before Mourinho came to Madrid, tell us the round in which they were eliminated from the Champions league?

I agree Mou did better than the people before him in some things. But time has proven that he failed woefully.

Time has now justified Pep.

spillo1:
Yes Pep was a success at Bayern for getting demolished and raped by Spanish teams and winning a League jupp won with a 24point gap. Man won a 34game championship with 24fecking point gap.

Because Dortmund had 66 points.

Pep also won the league with 90pts (Jupp had 91) only difference was Dortmund had 71 pts that year. Lol

spillo1:
I am not claiming anything. If you believe pep was a success at Bayern then automatically Mourinho was a success at Madrid. What ever your opinion on pep time at Bayern is automatically what will be used to judge Mourinho time at Madrid.

False equivalence.

Endique won the treble and he was average. Pep winning was not special (AFTER)

Rijkaard won the UCL. Pep winning was not special (BEFORE).

I use the same tactics for Bayern. Other coaches got to finals before Pep. Pep not getting there is a failure. (BEFORE)

so you must off necessity bring what happened after to also prove Pep failed.

I have done same for Mou and that is my conclusion.

Do same for Pep.

spillo1:
So you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern?

If winning the UCL is the only criteria. Yes.

But interestingly, nobody else has done so.

Next, Mou failed too at RM but 2 other people won 4 after.

So failure pass failure. Agreed?

spillo1:
. Before Pep Bayern 3 champions final in 4 years. After pep 0. Man damaged Bayern.

Before Mourinho...Madrid 6 successive round of 16 elimination..... With Mourinho 3 semi finals....after Mourinho 4 Champions league trophies.

Are you happy now .

Lol.

With Pep 3 semi finals as well (consecutively) other managers never achieved.

So if Pep damaged Bayern (which is rubbish because you said anybody will win a league with them).

How come the same anybodies who can win league with Bayern are finding it hard to get to the same SFs he was getting to yet anybodies in RM were winning the UCL that Mou could not win?

spillo1:
If pep is a success at Bayern so was Mourinho at Madrid.

How can you not see this is a false equivalence?

You want to claim Mou succeeded because of what others did not achieve before him but won't allow the argument that he failed because others achieved more after him.

Yet want to claim Pep failed because others went to finals more (they did not achieve more) but don't want to accept that others after him did less than him.

spillo1:
When you called Mourinho a failure did you tell us how many league titles Madrid have won the previous seasons before he took over.

Mou spent 3 years in RM.

He won one la liga. One copa del rey. One Kings cup.

In 3 years at Bayern

Pep won.....to be continued. Lol

spillo1:
Pep couldn't get to the rubbish at Bayern or at city. Try harder

Yea. Neither did Mou.
But one still has a job and can still do it.

spillo1:
Eruditor is daft. Madrid winning the Champions league in 2018 helped Mourinho in 2013 . Just imagine the rubbish.

I know you don't know what light years means in the context.

He is saying the way Pep came into Bayern is different than how Mou came into RM. Essentially claiming Mou getting to 3 SFs was a big deal because other coaches before were not getting there.

Can you see why I did not waste words? Because he is doing the before/after argument.

The very same thing you are refusing to let me do.

Mehn...catch up.

Also, Mou failed at Chelsea and RM.

SAF failed for 24 of his 26 years in United.

spillo1:
Pep was a failure at Bayern. Before him 3 Champions league finals in 4 years. With him and after 0 finals. Hence why everybody agrees pep destroyed Bayern with his rubbish style of play.

So every Bayern coach must be judged off the UCL?

LOL.

It means only Jupp was a success. Getting to the final is rubbish. Poch and Wenger have done it.

popizaino:
Can you tell us how many league titles they won in those years?

No no. That one is not relevant.

That is what they will say.

They want you to argue their own argument with them and not put forward your own.

Kimbeast:
This ain't it chief. Madrid winning 4 ucl after Mourinho left does not help your argument. The conditions in which both came into both teams is light years apart.

The conditions in which both came into what?

You argue maturely don't lose that reputation via your emotions.

spillo1:
Can't you see how daft you are . We are talking about Mourinho time at Madrid and comparing it to pep time at Bayern you are talking of what happened after when the metric should be what happened before they took over. You just confirmed what I knew ever since.

Lol.

So compare what other bayern coaches achieved after Pep. If we are talking about what happened before. I am using your own argument style.

It is funny that you are now arguing against yourself.

If I want to prove that Pep failed in Bayern..all I need to do is show that someone else came after him and did what he could not do.

Do you remember when you claimed Rijkaard already won the UCL so Pep winning it was not special? That was your argument. But you are now calling it daft.

Can you see why I called you daft off the bat?

popizaino:
Cc Eruditor


You should know when to drop an argument.

Someone claims Barcelona were the favourite team and the best team coming into 2008/2009 and you still haven't given up then I must commend you for your patience.


Someone claim tree trio of eto, Messi and Henry were more deadly in attack than c.ronaldo, Rooney Tevez and you can't call it a day?.

Drop this shit

They already shot themselves.

I even wanted to give the guy links but I realized bobo no sabi

I don rest my case unto the matter.

I reply because na banter. I don't take any of these people seriously.

spillo1:
No popizaino said Mourinho time at Madrid was a failure and pep time at Bayern was a success which is garbage. That's what brought us here. You guys are the one shifting from that to six trophies,fergie treble,Inter Milan,Klopp etc

Lol.

Let me tell you how you judge success.

Mou was successful at Inter because nobody after him could achieve what he achieved.

Now use that to judge Pep. Lol

spillo1:
And now we are back to the basics. Thank God you finally agreed pep failed at Bayern when it comes to the Champions league. Mourinho meet a team that haven't gotten the quarter final in 6 successive seasons at Madrid while pep meet a Bayern than went to three finals in 4yrs and just won a treble. Only a daft mind will even smsay those 2 circumstances are equal. If pep is a success to you at Bayern then so is Mourinho at Madrid.

You are worse than Smalltihex and he is the poster child for pseudo-intellectualism.

The team did not get to SFs but won 4 UCLs after him. Success.

The team got to 3 finals before Pep. Then stopped smelling SFs after he went. Failure.

Does your head not pain you from all the pus in your brain?

spillo1:
You are just like dayo. You both like bringing irrelevant things when you can't counter a point. We are talking about pep failures at Bayern you are bringing up six trophies . Did he win those at Bayern?

You are not talking about his time in Bayern you were talking about Mou in Inter and Porto.

I have to play the same false equivalence with you.

No he did not win those at Bayern. He only won 7 other titles at Bayern which no other Bayern coach had done in 3 years before.