₦airaland Forum

spillo1:
Their is nothing special in winning league titles at Bayern. You are adding it like it's suppose to mean something or an achievement. Even kovac will win three league titles on a row and he is nothing special.

Lol

Pep did 2 Doubles at Bayern in 3 seasons.

The only season he did not do it..he lost to Dortmund on penalties in the SFs

sleekdot:
Oya greatihex will you be honorable to drop 10K or shut the hell up for the next 1 week?

All citadel students are shameless

Greatihex

Prove you are not wretched.

spillo1:
Did pep win Champions league at Bayern? Why are you adding champions league when we are talking about pep at Bayern and Mourinho at Madrid?

You asked what Madrid won after Mou

Pep won 3 Bundesliga
2 German Cups

I won't add the rest.

Greatihex:
list the seasons pep won the league at barca. You will see your lie there

Ok I will even give you the point hall

2008/9 -87
2009/10- 99
2010/11- 96

spillo1:
Even kovac will also win the league 3 times in a row. Their is nothing special in winning the league with Bayern. Winning the league with Madrid is a better achievement than what pep did at Bayern. Since Mourinho left how many league titles did they win?

1 with 4 UCLs

Lol

sleekdot:
He will not disappear

greatihex can you stake your money that ep did not win 3 La Liga titles?

Greatihex is a coward.

I know him.

I sense the spirit of shame coming over him now.

LOL

sleekdot:
Tell him to stake money on it. That is the way to deal with citadel students, Make them oorer than they are

He will disappear now.

Or bring up some other unrelated nonsense.

Greatihex:
oga,dey lie small small

Prove me wrong

Or forever remain...stupid.

spillo1:
If pep was a success at Bayern so was Mourinho at Madrid.

False comparison as usual.

Mou 3 seasons in La Liga

1 title.

sleekdot:
Pep was the reason Bayern won 3 league titles in a row under him, Did Mourinho win 3 league titles?

The same Zidane people here are telling us is a poor coach won 1 league title in 2 attempts

Zidane is not a tactician.

He is not better than Benitez.

LMAO

Greatihex:
dey lie small small

Bring out the lie or prove you are a pretender.

popizaino:
But mourinho was successful with one league title at real Madrid because the team he had was not quality enough right?

Pep 3 la liga titles back to back to back..failed.

Pep 3 Bundesliga titles back to back to back...failed.

Pep about to win EPL titles back to back to back...failed.

Mou...SUCCESS.

Klopp...SUCCESS.

Conte..SUCCESS.

spillo1:
My lies lol? Please show us any were I lied and how you exposed me LMFAO. You have been bringing unrelated rubbish since yesterday and still haven't countered anything just shouting six trophies up and down my mentions.

How can it be unrelated when you are saying the one who won waaaay more in the same time frame did nothing special?

You did not lie?

How is the team Pep used based on the foundation of the one Rijkaard used?

spillo1:
Stop quoting me with rubbish and shouting super structure. Rijkaard came after Barca had gone 4 years trophyless. Revitalized the team and in 3yrs won the 2 la liga and a champions league. An average coach for that matter did that . You have nothing to make noise about.

I don't care about your opinion as much as I do in exposing your lies.

In Pep's first 3 years he won 3 la ligas, 2 UCLs, 2 Copa del reys, 2 world club cups, 3 spanish super cups, 2 European Super cups.

Geddifok.

kendrick93:
Cause most of those players peaks were already over by the time pep left........Robben,ribery, lahm,shweini all went downhill...
That squad should have won at least a few more Champions league but their prime was wasted...

Their prime was wasted - Bayern.

They had the best team in the world - Barca

kendrick93:
According to most most Bayern fans...
The general feel in Munich was he underachieved considering Bayern had probably their greatest squad...

Lol @ greatest squad

And most Bayern fans.

Not even worth replying to.

kendrick93:
which was a failure considering the team at his disposal...three seasons not a single final

Which was a failure by whose standard?

kendrick93:
Like I said it was for presonal reasons....Xavi shone with or without pep judging by his displays for the Spanish national team

Obvious rubbish.

Raheem also shone without Pep.

The very version of Raheem today is the one we have always known.

In fact, Pellegrini won a carling cup with Raheem so what special thing has Pep done with him.

sleekdot:
Who were the players that won the CL for Rijkaard
Starting 11 in 2006 final for Rijkaard

Valdez
Oleguer
Van Brockorst
Marquez
Puyol
Van Bomel
Edmilson
Deco
Guily
Ronaldinho
Etoo

How many of these players were still there when Pep won?

If I check 2009 CL final Only Valdez Puyol and Etoo started. Basically Pep created a different team bar 3 players and won the CL in style

Spillo1 come and show us the super structure.

Also tell us why they did not call Rijkaard's team the best team in the last 2 decades if not more.

kendrick93:
He had a fallout with him....it wasn't an attack on his ability rather his personality

Bring a link proving this nonsense.

kendrick93:
He couldn't even make the semi finals with much better teams like the bayern team and this present man city squad yet you think he's gonna win the champions league with current chelsea.
What are you smoking?

What are you smoking? He made back to back to back semi-finals with Bayern.

popizaino:
I will wager on winning the ucl this season.

Don't wager anything with them.

When Pep finished 3rd his first season. Ibime said as long as Pep's team is basically at the same level with other teams he won't achieve anything.

They were not referring to the UCL. They were referring to the EPL.

It is now that same team that one group of ignoramuses say are the best in Europe and another group have changed criteria to now ask for UCL.

Fernandinho is playing as CB. Otamendi that was on his way out starting as CB. Zinchenko a midfielder is LB. La Porte and Stones the main CBs are out. Sané is out.

Yet they are making excuses for Conte.

Similar to the way his squad was last season when he won 4 titles.

If you have to reply people, ignore the one's talking about relegation. Mou and Klopp have almost relegated their former things sef. But today..they are better.

spillo1:
The bolded is absolute ridiculous and exposes you more as a Wikipedia expert. You spew rubbish with confidence . Where did you get those rubbish from? Barca didn't win at bernabeu for straight seven seasons until Ronaldinho came and in his first season Barca won with him providing an assist to xavi. In his 2nd match at bernabeu he completely destroyed Madrid Singlehandedly. It was Ronaldinho/Rijkaard era that ushered in Barca dominace and tip the scale of El classico not any Pep. Go and sit down

Ronaldinho was there when RM won the league 2006-2007/2007-2008

He was there when Madrid beat Barca 4-1 after Barca had given RM a guard of honor.

See how you are brandishing your ignorance with alacrity.

Kimbeast:
Marcos Senna was the heartbeat of that Euro 2008 team . Xavi was pretty great, not as great as Senna even though he won player of the tournament. Senna was the engine and centre of all passing plays.
Iniesta was just a passenger till the semi Final

They were the greatest duo in the world.

The best midfielders winning everything in sight.

The kind of revisionist nonsense I read here daily because Pep is involved.

kendrick93:
Were you 12 or what? Cos going I into that final majority acknowledge barca were already the best team in europe.
Team had iniesta xavi Yaya busquetz in midfield,a frontline of Messi,henry,eto'o..
Just because they were not good in previous seasons doesn't dispute that fact.....there is no way on earth manu were favourites going into that final,u must be kidding me.....ffs barca had a prime xavi in midfield delivering over 35 assists that season....barca were far away the best team in europe as that point..

I am losing my patience with how dull you are.

You are using what that team achieved that season to argue how good they were before the season. Is everything okay upstairs?

Going into the final? Who managed them when they had to play qualifiers before getting into the UCL let alone finals?

Have you ever seen favorites playing qualifiers for the actual competition?

Xavi had over 35 assists that season? Who coached him into having 35 assists?

You don't see that you are making my argument for me.

kendrick93:
What are you talking about..Fergie couldn't field two starting 11 teams of nearly the same quality as man city do now... Most of those players you lsted there were unearthed gems,some came from the academy......the resources pep has had is night and day to anything fergie ever had.....
For example pep has spent over quarter a billion just to upgrade his fullbacks...that's insane

Pep spent 50M on Walker and 52M on Mendy. Roughly 26M on Cancelo.

How is that quarter of a billion?

How much did United spend on Wan-bissaka?

spillo1:
Barca without a coach was reaching 100points. Spain before pep used iniesta and xavi to dominate a competition.

The bolded is fallacy. Ronaldinho turned the tide of El classico not pep. Barca were a mess before Ronaldinho and Rijkaard. It was both(plus others but mainly those two) that set Barca on a path of domination.

Why is 100pts a big deal if Pep had done 99pts just 2 seasons removed?

Where is the superstructure argument here to help you?

Abi that superstructure only works when Pep wins. The other coach should have also won 5 more titles that same year to prove that Barca was the formula not the coach.

kendrick93:
who was better, man U?
I think proved otherwise

Now I know you are no better than some of the other slow guys.

A Barca team that went trophyless, sold their best players and were 16pts or more behind RM in the league the previous season became favourites, how?

I am sure you have forgotten United were defending champions coming into that season and final.

kendrick93:
he never had unlimited funds though but I do agree fergie somewhat underachieved in europe

So where was Pep's unlimited fund when he could not buy Jorginho? Fred? Alexis?

spillo1:
At inter Milan..... First champions league in 44yrs delivered by Mourinho

At Porto ........First champions league in 17yrs delivered by Mourinho.

Not like Guardiola that Barca won the Champions league just 3yrs before he came in.

Try and think. If Inter and Porto had won it before..what is the big deal? Benitez won the UCL for Liverpool too but people still give Klopp his dues.

I asked you which manager before Pep won 6 titles in one season. How many years before Pep was it done?

airmark:
Messi won UCL before Fraudiola joined Barca and won it after he left. So we cant say without Fraudiola Messi wouldn't have won it. Has Fraudiola won UCL,, without Messi? Only one answer, NO.

Let him prove us wrong that he's not a fraud, carried by those 3 midgets in Barca that time. Must he spend 2billion before winning another UCL?

How many games did Messi play in his first UCL?