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KarnThornheart:
Against that cavs team of LeBron Love and a box of cream crackers?


I disagree.

But game 1 went into OT and Curry had 29pts to add to KDs 26.

Without Curry, Cavs probably win that game.

Curry had 30+ game 2 or so. (I think 28 but my mind could fail me). We did not win by 10+ pts. So we probably lose that as well.

We need his huge 3 to tie the game in 3.

Then all of his 37 to seal the series.

Take them out.

KarnThornheart:
Eruditor says small sample size. Okay, lets examine the other players who've taken 9 shots.

Mr Big Shot 3/9

The Big Fundamentals 2/9

James Harden, a notorious choker in his own right 1/9

But Steph Curry, mind you, the greatest (regular season) shooter of all time, is 0/9.


Someone is trying to defend this?

LOL. Put back shots. Post up plays are counted.

How will they measure up to 3pt shots?

Where is Dame Lillard on that list?

KarnThornheart:
Of all the players who have attempted this shot curry has the 6th highest sample size and has the lowest percentage among them, even Westbrook who is better since he's only attempted 7. And eruditor is telling me small sample size. Have the other players not hit the same type of other shots you're describing?

If they have bring the stats let us see who ranks where and what. That 0-9 stat is so dumb, you can even tell they counted his first miss against Pelicans in that video I uploaded. But not his make. Hehe he.

KarnThornheart:
I think he scored 11 in that game and KD scored 40+, without KD would you have won that game? Voters we're not going to forget that. The answer is simple, KD won FMVP.

Without KD we lose the game for sure.

Without Curry we lose that game and the other 3.

KarnThornheart:
Considering Curry has the 6th highest sample size in the NBA since 2000 no, it's not a small sample size. Mate, he's shooting 0% in these situations man. ZERO! NADA!

Haha. The sample size is small because he has hit shots to extend leads and Shots to tie games that were not counted.

Stop outSteady896ing Steady896.

KarnThornheart:
Exactly but why is he 0-9 in these situations as great a shooter as he is? Because he's a choker period! You're just being disingenuous. Even you know you would give that shot to Klay and KD before Curry.

That 0-9 stat is flawed. I have already proven it.

Choker. Okay. But he won without KD in 14/15.

KarnThornheart:
That's besides the point.

Curry still got carried by Kevin Durant. Do you deny Durant wanted Curry to win FMVP and Curry wanted it as well? Do you deny Curry choked most of game 3 and that's why he didn't get it?

Curry had one 10pt game (he hit a big 3 in this game as well) and KD had 43. Yet KDs average was only 1 better than Curry's.

So justify the term KD carried him. Since Curry outscored KD in all but that one game.

steady986:
Don't get too excited clown. Perhaps who ever posted that photo earlier meant a go-ahead ahead shot to be a shot to take the lead, which makes perfect sense seeing Curry has none in the last 24 seconds of a playoff game.

SBD whatever he did against OKC, was it in the last 24 seconds?

Is that not what I told you from the jump?

Did I not also mention that since Curry's teams usually led comfortably, 0-9 in such moments compared to how many wins/games is a small sample space.

But you were arguing like a reckless buffoon.

KarnThornheart:
So you want Curry taking the shot ahead of Klay and KD?

Is he not a better shooter than them?

Answer on postcard.

KarnThornheart:
I don't know what's so funny mate. 6 losses have nothing to do with this. Calm down, I'm not trying to be mean, I'm just saying there are players meant for moments like these and players who are not. Let me ask you a simple question, with a game on the line for the Warriors, you need a bucket, rank these players in order of who you will want taking the shot. Curry, KD and Klay.

Curry Klay and KD.

KarnThornheart:
But Kevin love didn't play in 2015 or have you forgotten?

He died in 17/18 as well when he was giving Curry 4pt plays.

KarnThornheart:
Why can't you stop insulting people? Embarrassing!

I reserve insults for a special ilk. Not everyone deserves it.

KarnThornheart:
I'll be the first to admit LeBron froze in 2011 even though he's made clutch shots and plays before that he froze throughout the series period. Got outplayed by Jason Terry and JJ Barrea. It was embarrassing! But it's one thing to have a moment like that, all great players did. It's another to consistently fail to show up when your team needs you. For all of lebrons finals losses bar the aforementioned his teams we're never in contention to begin with. But stats show that when it comes to these moments, a game that's close and you need a game winner and you want a player to make a difference, LeBro n is that guy, Steph simply is not.

When your team needs you. With 6 losses.

Hahahahahahahahaha.

These jokes write themselves.

KarnThornheart:
He was carried by Kevin Durant.

Of course. He had the best TS% of any 4th Q in the finals..he did that in 14/15. Averaged 26ppg in the finals.

Averaged 22ppg in 15/16 when he "choked".

Averaged 30+ ppg (almost a triple double) in 16/17 when he was carried by KD even when Curry was getting doubled at the 3pt line for KD to dunk easily.

Averaged 28ppg to KDs 29ppg in 17/18 when KD carried him as well.

Then averaged 30ppg in 18/19.

Such a carried player that one.

steady986:
Chai, you don't listen, that's your problem. You always want to argue blindly. Even if he missed the go-ahead shot in the last 24 seconds, there's a whole lot of things that could still happen. The game could remain level and go into overtime, which the warriors could win.
Also, even if he misses, his teammate could have another bite of the cherry before the game ends.

And I forgot to tell you, a go-ahead shot could also be taken when your team has a slight lead as well. You could take a go-ahead shot to extend the lead to make sure of the win.

Curry is 0-8 in all those permutations. Disgrace.

You answered yourself and still did not realise you did. Your level of inanity is legendary.

If you miss a shot when the game can still go into OT. The shot is not as high-pressured as it was made to look. For e.g he missed a shot against Portland in the final seconds and went on to get 17 in OT. The stats calling him not clutch are dumb in that instance.

Also, Curry is known to heave shots from the parking lot in the final seconds of games. Against Raptors, he did it in game 6 but the stats will show 0-9 in final seconds even when one, two or three of those are heaves.

Then, he has hit shots that tied a game in the playoffs. Part of where the 3-4 stats came from. Those were not counted. Because...narrative.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpw8FjxBML4

Curry has extended a lead in game 6 vs OKC 2015/16 with a huge 3. It was not counted as well. I can bring more evidence if you are too stupid to find one yourself.

Curry has also been fouled in final seconds of games when he tried to shoot. He made the free throws. Those will not be counted. Yet some other people are 48% from the stripe at such points.

So dumbo986, can you see why I told you to look for someone else to debate with? I don't mean that disrespectfully. You don't measure up at all.

KarnThornheart:
But how does your "logic" change the fact that hes 0-9 in these instances is what i want to know. Its one thing for your team to win convincingly, its another for your team to need a shot and your man chokes. Just imagine a 6'3 point guard getting locked down by 6'10 chubby kevin Love in the most important play of his career. Even Allen iverson who was a brick layer hit clutch shots all the time, this so called great shooter cant buy one for his team. LMAO! Greatest Choker of All time!

Yea, Kevin Love locked him down. To win all but one ring. Meanwhile Curry has 3 playing against the same Kevin Love's team. So explain, how the choker has won more.

KarnThornheart:
The only thing you expose here is your naivety, mr. warriors in 7.


How does this change the fact that hes 0-8 in these situations? What about westbrick who's 0-7? duncan 2-9, mr big shot 3-9, even harden, another notorious choker got one to go 1-9. Your man is just out choking everyone.


The so called greatest shooter of all time cant buy a shot to put his team ahead in the last 24 seconds of a game and you are giving me that gibberish? LMAO!


Like i said, keep exposing your naivety. Free throw shooting is now the standard for judging great players. Shaq couldnt buy a free throw to save his life, you're too young in the NBA to know what Hack a Shaq means, still a greater player than Kobe Bryant. You should be arguing about shaq or kobe or duncan, dont let your willful ignorance allow you to bring lebron into this. One day you'll come and tell me robert horry is better than lebron cause "he won" more than him. If you dont know who that is, he is the definition of clutch, hence the opposite of steph curry.

With you it is easier to argue. You will provide the ammunition yourself. Curry is a choker etc bla bla. But Bron has lost 6 finals. Why did he not buy shots to make his team win? Curry has won more than Lebron in the playoffs and finals. I don't understand.

steady986:
Once again, your lack of basketball knowledge is clearly showing. You don't know what a go-ahead shot is.

I'll tell you. A go-ahead shot is a shot taken at the end of games, usually to tie or take the lead.

And the 3-4 you're talking about were in the regular season.

I would have been surprised if it was not our resident dullard.

Want to bet the 3-4 stat is for the regular season? LOL.

Which is why I mentioned it. To show the flaw in the stat and the small sample size.

Again I ask, how many playoff games does Curry have? How many wins? If he only had a chance to miss 8 go-ahead shots compared to the amount of wins he had, it means his team won more games before the final 20 seconds than the other players on that list.

Logic is not hard if one has half a brain. Sadly, you don't.

KarnThornheart:
LOL! But you admitted to being a quack doctor and a fraudster and you admitted to wanting to export your quackery to another country what are you mad at me for? You know i'm smart but it seems you just dont know how smart i am. You know Einstein, what about tesla? plato? Socrates? Mo.rons.


Your man had draymond iggy and boogie. Mad? LOL The only time your man came at lebron with a level playing field the notorious choker choked a 3-1 lead, first time in NBA history. Suffice to say this level of choking had never been seen before until this shameless choker. then he went and cried to Kevin Durant at the Hamptons. Hamptons five or b-tch a-s niggas?


LOL! But lebron has never been a good free throw shooter. All i know is someone calls himself the greatest shooter of all time but keeps bricking clutch shots. The king on the other hand, is statistically speaking the most clutch playoffs player in NBA history and thats a fact. Just admit it man, Wardell curry is a notorious choker. Theres no denying it at this point.

I am just here to expose flaws in your logic as usual.

How many playoff games does Curry have? If he has the chance to go 0-8 in last 24 seconds of a game, it means his team mostly wins games before that moment compared to some people on that list.

Also, the stat does not show if the shots missed are to win games or tie them. Because he was 3-4 in shots needed to tie and then his team went on to win convincingly in OT which will mean those shots won't get counted as last 20 seconds.

But I'm sleep though.

Some GOATs cant shoot free throws they had been working on since 2003 but they are better than Kobe and Jordan who won more than them.

SmooshCHN:
Tanking season??

The warriors got this easy with this draft class.
Jordan Poole

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KowNSdlR4I
Eric Paschal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bew7Xg1x_4
Alen whatever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7JLyLGIblc

Happy with the drafts especially Jordan Poole. Was already hearing about him from the scouting reports. A potential splash brother with decent length.

steady986:
Lol, cry baby. You need some tissue?

LeBron gat 3 rings and 3 finals MVP
Curry gat 3 rings and 0 finals MVP

Let's leave it at that.

Aww. 3 of Curry's rings came at Lebron's expense.

I am crying.

LarcPickerin:
Nobody agrees with?


LOL! I told you, do better.

LOL.

You are the one trying to argue that your man is in a GOAT debate. You are the one to be making an argument for him.

LarcPickerin:
Like literally, I'm not even playing. You need to step up your game.

You are the one who is trying to convince people about something nobody agrees with.

LarcPickerin:
This is literally one of the worst arguments i have ever heard. I'm not even going to give this balderdash, both the debate itself and your approach to it the time of day.

Hahaha haha

Sure. Sure.

LarcPickerin:
Eruditor, Listen to this genius, he knows what hes saying.

Nobody cares about analytics. Nobody did in Kobe's day as well. So the analytical argument is as stupid as Nick Wright.

CuteRedd:
yeah same but Windhorst has reported he wants to play for another team but would like 5yrs and the money that comes with it. So this is the only way warriors don’t at least lose him for nothing. Who knows he might change his mind after one year.

But I think he is too sensitive to change his mind. Twitter would rip him apart.!

Also there was no way KD was going to the Knicks. Absolutely no way. The Clippers had the best chance of getting him.

LarcPickerin:
Shaq 3 FMVPs with all 3 championships with Kobe. This dweeb really wants to argue who was carrying who? LMAO!

I have shown you the flaw in the FMVP argument right?

Because when Shaq left, Kobe won that same title 2ce but Shaq never did again.

Try another angle.

CuteRedd:
yeah same but Windhorst has reported he wants to play for another team but would like 5yrs and the money that comes with it. So this is the only way warriors don’t at least lose him for nothing. Who knows he might change his mind after one year.

But I think he is too sensitive to change his mind. Twitter would rip him apart.!

Don't take anything Windhorst has to say seriously. If KD wanted out he would have not come back to play for GSW.

LarcPickerin:
But whats the difference between Wardell and Patrick McCaw?

Same difference between Lebron and a vulture.

LarcPickerin:
And steph curry has three rings. Rings are almost useless in this argument.


No wonder you like kobrick, him and wardell were both carried to multiple rings

How won't rings be useless. When it does not favour your lame argument.

Kobe is better than Lebron. Bring your arguments against this. He won 2 rings after Shaq left and Shaq won only one. Who was carrying who?

CuteRedd:
nothing will humble him more than coming to a championship team surrounded by champions and Draymond green all things being equal He would be humbled.

You have a point though. He is better than Jerebko, Cook, Bell, Harrison Barnes etc.

But, I will still prefer KD stayed.

steady986:
Curry spent 3 years in college.

Lol. And Curry has the same number of finals MVP as me.

Okay, did he not get drafted 2009 when Lebron was drafted 2003? You are always trying to act smart and you always look stupid for your effort.

Curry has the same finals MVP as you and the same number of rings as Lebron. They are not mutually exclusive events.