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NOTE TO VESCUCCI

how jealousy (and being a retard) can land you in hot water

vescucci:
@Gamine, it's thing to read between the lines but in your case it was more or less spelt out. You are n Niger. What gave? I don't know, but fact is fact. So where are my pecks at, eh? It must be a bitch browsing from wherever yo are browsing from.

And here we have Ex being uncharacteristically modest. That worth MY two pence. Really modest for a vermin from hell. Elves and demons don't mix, so I can't fathom the link with Ex and Gamine. Let's put it this way Ex is Gamine's Ex. So let's get a move on.

Awaiting a terrible shockwave from Ex and I'm bracing hard, oh so so hard!

aw, dont bother bracing. thought of hitting below the belt, but then i remembered theres nothing there.

i mean, maggots, being cousins to scum, aint got no pee-pee.

look here

like UNLEASHED said, always try the manufacturer support site

http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/su/su_sc_modSel.jsp

semid4lyfe:
@Ex inferins,kai!
Do u live,eat,drink,sleep & dream pc's.
Ur analysis is brilliant & I guess factual because u sound knowledgeable but I ain't too happy with u because I use a Hp special edition laptop.
Any how sha,weda hp,acer,sony,ibm,f.siemens,dell or apple,d koko be say make all man enjoy em lappy & make e last 4 am.
Need I say more?
Adios.

why, thank you. you are too kind. however FYI i dont EAT, DRINK or wahtever.

i USE pcs, and eat, sleep, dream Gamine.

knowledge is easily acquired in forums, blogs, mags, TV, etc. but primarily it is induced by interest and a sort of open mind. you cant imagine someone boxed in apparent societal prescriptions of what is "in fashion" venturing outside to explore, do you?

yes, its true; a faction of society for whatever reason prescribes what everyone SHOULD wear, buy, use, drive, eat. Trend, i think is the word. why, i do not know.

me, im a maverick in that way, or i try to be. i dont see why my computing activities should be predetermined by Bill gates and co., so i unshackled myself and exlore whatever is out there.

that quest took me around Windows, Linux, BSD, Mac OS. and that same quest divorced me from any symbiosis with HP.

i have no roblem with you or anyone using any machine of their choosing; but i do get prickled when i see folks CLAIMING nothing out there beats HP.

im not saying i know any better; just that with the benefit of experience and some research i feel my two pence worthy of public attention.

cheers.


Elf,

you mere mortals are derailing the topic, Gamine and i are on the road to Somewhere. somewhere is a place only elves and emissaries of Hell can go.

so shoo, all you cyborgs(dual core)/renaissance paintings (vescucci)/busybodies(samir101), go amuse yourselves watching grass grow or something.

the Elf is mine. im addicted because she's like a prescription pill, yah know?

She Elf, here are some smackarooneys just for you

one love

@flyuche

no, still use the bleeding 3G once in a once, but for heavyduty surfing/downloads i use my broadband wifi. less reliable but faster.

actually "better desktop" is open to academic debate. whats the parameter here? looks? speed? specs? support? price?

im a cute dude and i have tons of cuter gadgets.

so waht say you?

you game or you lame?

for music management itunes is best.

then theres media monkey

vescucci:
Just saw Wanted yesterday and about the first 13 mins was the best part of the film. The rest was just a symphony of contretemps and inconsistecies. Those assassins don't sound like they know the meaning of discretion. The worst jolie flick in a long time.

seconded

Ngage 2.0 isnt that far advanced from the Ngage 1.0 of cursed memory. meanwhile the iphone in terms of gaming hardware is competing with PSP and nintendo DS.

the only thing n95 can carp about is GPS and 3G. (and a 5MP camera that isnt that better than iphones 2MP on a 160ppi screen).

well, iphone 3G put a stop to that with A-GPS and better mapping as well as HSDPA.

phone+internet device+ipod+gaming machine+GPS=kick-butt device.

and Apps! thousands of Apps (not counting Cydia and Installer) centrailized in one device.

Dual Core:
Lol, ok i think i'm going crazy wit my imaginations. Here'z wht jst got into my head as i went through this thread: i'm wit a chic in bed, and erm, i jst happen to notice d discoloration on her laps nd i'm like "geesh u own a laptop?" she's like "yea?" and i'm like "HP?" she goes "yeap" nd i start laffin nd i'm like "babe, yo HP don't jst kick butt, lol it kicks laps, now yo lapz is all roasted from d freakin heat. Hehehe"

lolz!

nothing heats up like that HP tablet monstrosity. waht do they have in there, a blow dryer? a pal called me after getting one and complained abiut the excessive heat. he can't lay it on his bed because the vents are on the underside. in any case he had to get a third party accessory that blows air upwards into the belly of the beast.


he was afraid its innards were going to get liquified.

samir101ng:
GAMINE !!!  Na where for naija you dey live ? Ehh, you should see the effyzie i do when i go out with an Apple Macbook to the cafe. All the fine chicks will be eyeing me and you ma you know sey, your boy no dey lose form. Almost every gadget i own has do in part 50% functionality, 50% Effyzie. From my Sony PSP to the Iphone 3G. Its a sad fact that to toast some babes, you need a cool gadget to "catch" their eye. But seriously, we all know such babes are not that attracted to you, but who cares as long as you are getting laid right. 

On the last note, Microsoft has dominated the market so much that using any OS apart from windows seems like hell to an ordinary nigerian. I mean, a typical nigerian doesnt even know that there are even other OS out there apart from microsoft. Lastly, Apple products are so damn expensive (Ipod, Macs, Iphone) and hard to get in nigeria without getting ripped off.

show bobo!!

me, i buy 70% functionality, 10%ease of use, 20% affordability.

70% is because, well, if i don't NEED it, i wont buy it no matter how glamorous and affordable.

thats why i didnt buy the zune and went for a samsung F480.

yeah, Apple products are so darn expensive because you are buying a classy device, so you pay premium for:

1. ease of use

2. duraility

3. sex appeal

Apple creates a sort of societal loop of proud owners. in fact, Apple doesnt have customers, Apple has FANS.

my only gripe is Apple is so close-ended. when you buy an Apple product you don't feel in control, you feel someone has loaned you the thingy. you can't change batteries, you can't mod the gadgets legally (in this era of modding), you can't use an OS installation CD more than 5 times (you are not even allowed to make a copy), you can't legally use your iphone on a network of your choice without some pretty determined hackery etc etc.

but its utility and cool factor is still worth the pains.

agaba123:
off topic. abeg make una no vex
a friend called me and asked me to buy a lappy for him.
Not that h needs it but is now a fashion statement in naija. Everybody carries it around whether they are going to church or bible study. When they visit a friend, it is a sign that one has arrived.

Is that true?

everyone's definition of 'need" is different from the next guy's.

its not true that its a status symbol if one runs around his peer group with the same social status. you only "arrive" if you have a machine very few of your friends can afford because the truth is almost any one with an income now can afford to buy a laptop, its all a matter of opportunity cost and preference list.

or you only arrive if your mates are destitues, deprived, less-privileged, unemployed, and so on.

five years ago, you may be hailed for having a lappy.

not so much now.

@samir101ng

bless yer pa for having the constitution to transcend the naija HP bug. eventually the enslaved masses will awaken from their hypnotic slumber and trawl the market for a better bargain.

guess what what hapened recently? a mate bought himself a MacBook Pro 15". unfortunately it came with Tiger preinstalled and not Leopard. in any case he went to MTN Connect in KD and tried getting online via MTN's so-called 3G service. know what the mindless drones there told  him?

"heeeee! na Apple you go buy? hmm! where you wan get software? and by the way our Modem will not work with Apple" (even though the Modem comes with a Mac OS X installation CD in the pack).

anyway they fiddled around like the overpaid ninnies they are and finally gave up, that they couldnt configure it.

their problem? well, the've never had the privilege of using an Apple box before, so the .dmg file extension was alien to their .exe-fueled minds.

and they were not willing to explore the possibilities of twisting their tiny minds around the problem by asking for anyone who knew anything about Mac.

No. they looked at the shiny Aluminium masterpiece as a computing anathema and promptly told my mate to sell it off and buy a HP.

the horror.

anyway, he came to me and voila! i did it in less than half a minute. (for all 5 five of you Apple owners in Naija, simply change the APN from MyMTN to web.gprs.mtnnigeria.net in the network interface.)

i installed Azureus, Office 2004 (its Tiger so 2008 wont work), opera 9.52, transmission, firefox, CenterStage, internet explorer and tons of other stuff. then for extra kick i installed Vista on Boot Camp/Parallels so he has both windows and Mac OS 10.4.

best laptop of 2008 (as voted at Consumer Electronics Show 2008)

Lenovo IdeaPad U110

Alienware Area 51 m17x

1. 17 inch screen

2. 2.8GHz Intel Core 2 Extreme

3. Dual NVIDIA GeForce 8800M GTX (thats two discrete powerful GPUs in Scalable Link Interface mode.)

4. 4GB 667MHz DDR2 Memory

5. 1.5TB Storage (terabytes)

6. AlienFX Illuminated Keyboard

ouch.

still on the issue of specs, which is what sells windows machines, and in my attempt to show you there are better kick-butt notebooks out there (and fancy case coloring), gobble te pix and spex below.

1. Intel quad-core processor (of course, four cores or the equivalent of 2 dual cores)

2. 16GB RAM

3. 1GB VRAM for graphics

4. 1TB (terabyte, or 1024 gigabytes) Hard disk in RAID 0.

5. Fancy food coloring

oh, and its a Dell, coming out soon.

so all you specs lovers start saving up.

UNLEASHED:
Acer sucks! I bet you won't want to have it!

thats an unprofessional statement. give us a reason why Acer "sux" beyond this "eloquent" one-liner.

and you're wrong, ive owned Acers before i went the Apple route.

try giving me one and see if i wont accept. 

you see the two laptops above? do you know the connection between them?

no?

well, Packard Bell is owned by Acer.

Acer Aspire 6920G Gemstone Blue Laptop

1. Intel Centrino chipset

2. stereo speakers with sub woofer

3. Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 @ 2 GHz 667 MHz FSB (Front Side Bus to the uninitiated)

4. 4 GB DDR2 SDRAM

5. 250 GB SATA

6. 6 in 1 card reader

7. NVIDIA GeForce 9500M GS TurboCache supporting 1280MB with GDDR2 SDRAM - 512 MB

now, is that too shabby? all these for £719.97

HP "special Edition" lovers, check out this sleek powerhouse.

Packard Bell's iPower GX:

1. 1,920 x 1,200 display ( true HD)

2. nVidia 9800M GTS with 1GB dedicated GDDR3 video memory

3.  Intel's first Quad Core mobile processor, the Core 2 Quad Q9100 (four CPU cores)

4.  Blu-ray drive

5.  4GB of system memory

6. 640GB hard disk (twin 320GB SATA in RAID 0)

7. 1.3 MP webcam

8.  gigabit LAN

9. wireless-N

10. bluetooth

11. 5-in-one card reader

12. 9-cell lithium ion battery

13. fingerprint module

ever heard of packard Bell? the above is a gaming notebook.

theres a world outside HP.

@Djcn

thanks for the info, actually the BBC Click episode i mentioned earlier allready talked about the integration of Cpu and Gpu cores on one die. however they didnt mentiion further specifics. mind you, i said AMD went to sleep not for lack of having heady plans on the drawing board (which im sure intel has lots) but because of their losing grip on their market share. intel has cornered the laptop market, and the server market (with Xeon) while Atom is set to rock the mobile/embedded market.

also note that the Fusion development is made possible beacuse of ATI and its intelectual assets; on its own AMD will do less perhaps. and dont forget that ATI's main competitor, Nvidia, wont be resting on its oars. its a two-front war for AMD/ATI so they best innovate quick.

meanwhile it seesm Apple is gearing up to design and build its own CPUs very soon.

Antia:
my hp pavilion dv6899ei (special edition) with brown bronze color kicks butt!!!!!!!!!

kick which butt, precisely?

Antia:
Acers are not just it, especially their new models, they all look like some cheap plastic stuffs, looks very fragile

you can say the same for HP

altavista:
Shoo!Dualcore,Ex Inferins & co,una dey vex me no be small.So wetin una dey try talk be say may I go throw away my Hp pav dv60000 special edtn.Mba o!Me,I like my Hp die,even pass d love wey dc get 4 indomie.D only issue with it is d battery life.As 4 speed @ startup,don't even go there because I've tested it against d acers,vaio's,dell,F Siemens,benQ, of this world & my HP lappy boots faster than all of them.I did my research before buyin it & so I knew about all d bloats in Hp.I tweaked it & only 10 fxns run & startup.Its a 2gb ram,250gb hd,intel core 2 duo,1.85 ghz speed & vista home edtn lappy & it is very solid.As 4 beauty,it is comparable 2 no other as it is 7up. Its not d black shinny Hp pav that is so common as mine is a brown bronze colour.
As 4 other, O.S don't even go there because there's no support in naija in terms of softwares.Most of d phone internet providers do not work with d linux & macs of this world & softwares 4 them na headache.Hp is aware of d low batt life of their lt's & have dere4 made lithium12 bat

i was waiting for exactly someone like you to make a comment and, no offense, but you've spoken exactly like the type of HP-targeted demography we were posting about.

HP pavilion "special edition" is one more fancy way of snaring people like you into paying extra for essentially nonsense. ok, so "specila editions" have swirling engravings and colored cases.

yeah.

so what does that do for performance? does it make your wok any easier? its just eye candy to further induce you into giving HP your money since they have nothing else to recommend them. have you noticed that most new Windows Latops come with gaudy colors these days (even the DELL XPS range)? thats because most of them have similar specs and very little differnce to harp on and market so they paint their boxes in fancy colors (even pink, god forbid) hoping some psychedelia-high Joe Schmuck will get bedazzled.

and it seems to be working going by your fanboy gushings.

yours is a brown color.

jesus.

who ever heard of a brown laptop?

recently my comany bought a string of HP dv 6430 or something like that for the staff. they are Core 2 duo 3gig RAM 160gig machines bougt at 160,000 each. the "special edition" earlier pitched to us were Core 2 duo 2g RAM 120gig candy colored, engraved systems at the rate of 190,000 per machine. i checked the features and the secs and found that the 160,000 systems were more advcanced specs-wise and it dawned on me the "special editions" command more premium over the more powerful machines because of the graphical engarving and the colors. we were to pay an extra 30,000 for colored cases and printed graphics.

jesus.

you mentioned how your HP starts up faster than the others. well, we only have your word for that since we dont know the specs of the comparison boxes nor the starup itesm they run. we can only assume you used a non-scientific and horribly biased means of arriving at that conclusion.



and then you said:
" As 4 other, O.S don't even go there because there's no support in naija in terms of softwares.Most of d phone internet providers do not work with d linux & macs of this world & softwares 4 them na headache."

are we to assume you call Microsoft via phone for tech support? in naija? please! the same way we get our windows software is the same way we mac users get our mac software: illegal online downloads or pirated CDs. i have tons of Mac programs even though the system comes with basically everything you need.

im sure you are not aware that Microsoft Office first appeared on the Mac (in fact before the Advent of windows, Bill gates used to make software for Apple machines, and Microsoft still has an entire division dedicated to making Mac software. indeed, Microsoft is a share holder in Apple. ). in Mac we have Microsoft Office 2008 while windows users still grapple with Office 2007. we have Microsoft Entourage, Internet Explorer, MSN Messenger etc so what do you have that we aint got? is it firefox, Adobe CS4, Opera, or what? name it and we got, or something better.

as for support, none beats Linux. you want to try the endless amount of forums dedicated to specific areas? is it frequent upgrades? all for free?

windows is less supported han the other OS so dont even go there, because windows support isnt free. the only free aspect is Knowledge Base, and goodluck that one solving your problems.

on to your second "point"

you say:

altavista:
tteries available.
@Ex inferins,if as u say,all d chips,panels,boards etc of d difrent brands of lt's are made by d same peeps,wetin come make acer beta pass Hp.

affordability.

altavista:
@Dualcore,Hp is common because it has tried & trusted and this people keep on recommending it 2 others to buy,so no blame that girl wey u dey toast wey no gree for you.If 2 say u dey use Hp,she 4 gree for you kia kia.

wrong! nigerians buy HPs in droves because we have a fetish for what seems the rage. if neighbour A bought product X, chances are Neighbor B will also buy Product X. that probaly explains why to most Nigerians there are no other worthy Cars than Honda, Toyota, BMW, Merc and Kia. (what the Americans will call commuter cars.)

the same logic is applied to almost every consumer product. if its phones, anyting other than Nokia is suspect; any TV not made by Sony/Samsung/Sharp/LG is suspect; any car speakers that are not made by Pioneer are suspect and on and on.

so also lappys. if its not HP it must be rubbish even though most Review Magazines and online consumer products blogs hardly feature HP. in fact Acers feature more prominently than HP. how many HPs have you seen on TV and in movies?

the most despised Systems in America are HP and Toshiba and America is a bigger and more discerning market than the backwater here.

so bottom line, people recommend HP to other people because thats what everyone is buying, thats what the store guy told them, and thats what they belive.



and as long as you are running Vista, your precious HP is no better than a similarly specced non-HP system.

@samir101ng

LOL!

nice one, 'blow up kaduna'. the niger deltans will do that first courtesy of MENDS. remember we are supposedly parasitic lazy smegs cowering in the shadows while pecking at the oil wealth of the region even though in reality te average northener is no better and no worse off than the average niger deltan.

oh well, anoter thread for that.

was watching "Click" on BBC the other day, saw a rendered 3D character made with 10million polygons all rendered in real time. absolutely scary.

before i lost my xbox360 i once hooked it up to a mate's Regza HDTV. i didnt know i wasnt really gaming until i saw the unbelievable hi-res of Assassins creed.

that sold me on extreme pc gaming.

so far Crysis is Pc only (needs Direct X 10) and so is Alan Wake.

dude, im willing to sacrifice kaduna to get my HD fix.

PS: Intel is knocking ATI a serious blow every single day.

@dual core

it sweetens my heart to see that fellow naijans are not all sold on HP. you say you despise the so-called Tablet swinging hideousity; is there a word greater than 'despise'? because i loathe those machines. if anyone has a Hp Dv6000 or so series, look on the casing along the seam; you will notice that the casings dont really fit well. and ive found out that some of the casings are spray-painted and not molded.

smells cheap to me, all you Acer hating folks.

if you have enough money for a HP pavilion, buy a Dell XPS instead.

texazzpete:
did u use the Mobileinstallation for 2.1? There's a special one for 2.1, you can grab it off xsellize.com or do a search.

EDIT: here's the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/pcrxy6

thanks for the link. i was actually stupid enough to use the one for 2.0.2 fw. meanwhile QuickPWN 2.1 is out, ot unlocks 2.1 fw. check the devteam's blog at

http://blog.iphone-dev.org/post/50888951/redmond-we-have-a-pwnapple#disqus_thread

@samir101ng

we are not saying much about AMD because somewhere down the line they went asleep after the success of the Athlon (a dubious sucess since it was remarkable mostly in gaming rigs). Turion just doesnt cut it. i think the onl y decent thing they did was buying ATI but stupidly enough they still lag behind intel in  the mobile computing market. intel's GMA is trouncing ATI's Radeon even though Radeon is suppossely better.

processors are not getting any faster; they are getting more efficient while software, the linchpin, are becoming more bloated and demanding (ask Cyberlink or Adobe). very soon they'll hit the transistor threshold and then we'll start seeing a decline in performance. except if quantum computing became a reality and does away with silicon wafers.

@Djcn

thanks for pointing out my misuse of the word 'argument'. these days i focus my attention more on GPUs rather han CPUs since GPUs are the future of computing. right now some specialist devices (some inboard car computers and SatNavs) are using GPUs to do the work of a regular CPU because the former crunch numbers exponentially faster and better than CPUs. parallel processing is the future and thats why the whole Nvidia SLI/ATI CrossFire interests me. im thinking of moving over to PC Gaming and im saving up for a $3000 Alienware CrossFire rig (Dual Radeon HD). im figuring by the end of next year i'll have saved enough to buy it. its so powerful it uses a liquid cooling system.

by the way its true, the first gen p4 was beaten by the last gen p3. but of course they used a benchmarking tool so its not really real-world.

well, here it is
the official Watchmen trailer. if you have a slow conection let it buffer first.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4blSrZvPhU

well, used winscp via SSH (USB mode) and replaced mobileinstallation framework with the patched one. after rebooting my phone is stuck at the boot screen.


seems the patch is invalidated by 2.1

back to restore.

bugger.

no need to elaborate, youve captured the essence of the whole thing.

as Zibri will say,

namaste.

cor! im not poking a finger in your eye, am i? it puzzles me how everything on nairaland must be reduced to arguments.

in any case the Core Processor architecture, which is 32bit, IS a precursor for the 64bit Core MA and now that Core Duo is hardly imlemented in mainstream laptops its easy enough to see that it has performed its role of a precursor by ushering in the popular Core 2. thats the basis of my point. Core 2 has replaced Core Duo whether we term the process "development" or "replacement".  

its a known fact that the 64bit Core MA is a derivative of the 32bit Yonah processor. so Core MA is phasing out Core. just about every new modern system now comes under te Core MA and not Core Duo, even Apple replaced their lineup from Core Duo to Core 2 Duo (the iMac has a Core Extreme configuration).


as for the 3mb l3cache, that was in the earlier spec sheet and is not altogeter impossible. remember we had the era of 128kb l2 cache (which appeared in the earlier Celerons) so since computing resources sometimes develop exponentially, a 12mb total l3 cache in the near future is foreseeable. i did say "3mb is a possibility", and not "3mb will be implemented"


by the way a fork of the Nehalem MA (code named Westmere/Nehalem-C) will be manufactured under a 32nm process and will have six cores. its slated for a 2009-2010 release.

and you are rigt on the heat dissipation issue; the following is from wikipedia " "expect a 20-30% overall advantage over Penryn with only a 10% increase in power usage."

microsoft claims they have half a billion users and hence an obligation not to break the internet.

whatever that means, even though ActiveX IS breaking the internet.


this is their excuse for sitting on their fat ar5ses and not innovating while Apple is thinking of redoing the whole concept of computing y next year.

jesus.

you killing me.

well, off to the monkey's ball.

@Djcn

YOU SAY: " i don't agree with u that the dual core processors will take a back seat since they were just developed about 2 years ago "

I SAY: its not a question of seeing a lifecycle through, its a matter of getting new technology out there before the competition, AMD. its happened before with the Celeron when the previous line was phased out by a newer line with updated caches.

Core Duo was quickly replaced by Core 2 Duo and Core Extreme within a very short space of time and since the new i7 are coming out soon you can expect OEMs to gobble them up. Anyting to generate more sales especially in these times of bloated specs. by the way i don't put much faith in benchmarks. the p3 versus early p4 debacle as well the Athlon era put a stop to my faith in benchmarks.

YOU SAY: " They ll feature 8MB shared L3  by all core"

I SAY: i don't see how that is a correction. i said " 2-3 MB L3 cache per core shared by all cores". 2-3MB PER CORE. see my point? lets say 2mb per core (3mb is a possibility), that means 2mbX4cores=8mb L3 TOTAL.

YOU SAY: " They ll disipate more heat 130 watts compared to my current processor dissapation of 90 watts"

I SAY: that wont surprise me seeing as we are talking of quad core versus dual core. two dual cores will have a combined heat dissipation of 180watts while a quad core (with 8 threads) will dissipate 130watts. still less heat then.

YOU SAY: " They are still based on the 45nanometer process for the 3 current models"

I SAY: "Nehalem, which will replace the Core architecture, uses the 45nm manufacturing tecnology from Penryn." still the same thing, 45nm.

35nm is a logical next step from 45nanometers, wont you agree?

you know, when i saw the 'i' in i7 i thougt it was based on the Itanium architecture given that i7 is also 64bit. intel is crafty, AMD watch out (although AMD still has ATI)

thanks for the link and your insight.
by the way, i7 will come overclocked. goodnews for gamers

@samir101ng

like i said earlier, unlike Windows OEMs, Apple puts specs to good use by optimising both hardware and software to work efficiently. windows OEMs are at the mercy of Microsoft's Windows OS. that said, im eagerly awaiting the next batch of Mac machines which are hinted to be radically innovative, and will ship with Snow Leopard, the most technologically advanced and sophisticated OS in the world.

when you get your macbook you will agree wit me. by the way your Macbook will come with Leopard and BootCamp preinstalled, so you can dualboot with Vista (if you so wish) and see Vista speeding u like you've never seen it before. it runs at Mac's native speed.

cheers.

ps: all corrections of my errors are duly welcomed. im only human.