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MaxInDHouse:
The Israelites were taught to bow but not facing any stone or metal in Christianity we are not to bow at all.
When the isreal bow how did they bow
So if you see people bowing towards anything know that they are your fellow believers what they claim is irrelevant as long as you're all bowing towards something!

Dsimmer:
Lol.

Funny There was a never a time Jesus ran away when the Jews wanted to stone him though. It was stated that he always walked through the midst of them whenever they were angry and they couldn't do anything to him because it wasn't his time to die yet. Same person who scattered the Jews trade inside the temple?
Just closed your mouth and shame yourself you don't know anything in the bible
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”

58 “Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!” 59[b] At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.[/b] NO BE HERE BABA JAPA 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Abeg leave that poor guy only jàre no gram am again









Who was poor though? The one that fed the multitude to the extent that the multitude wanted to crown him as a king hence he took off?

And that was the problem of the Jews. They felt the Messiah would be a king living large on earth and wouldn't be someone living like an ordinary man except for his powerful miracles. However, what they didn't know was the kingship description of him was a spiritual depiction of him.. besides, if he came as a king, the people would have feared him which wasn't what he intended to do. His intentions was to depict the purity, mercy and salvation of God. Funny the Jews began to wait for the messiah after Jesus already left 😂until
they were later dispersed into Europe. The point was the Jews didn't believe there was no Messiah (son of God) to begin with because the scripture promised them that there would be one. So they were waiting for the messiah.

Another fact is the Jews were Africans and Jesus was an African.

Also in the scripture, Christianity wasn't enforced on anyone. Jesus didn't force it on anyone. In fact, the Romans, the Greeks and the other Europeans actually came to enslave the Jews but in the end, they were the ones who accepted the scriptures and started telling it to their European counterparts. It wasn't forced on them.

That can't be said for Arabic Islam with the stone idol deity called allah. Although I know some have ulterior motives in hand but then again, the peadiphilic terrorist Mohammed started it with the ulterior motives to begin with. He stole people's lands for his Arab people who wanted to continue such acts until the Europeans dealt with their useless terrorist selves. Bunch of useless people. Meanwhile, some Africans act as their stooges while forgetting the fact that the motive of the Arabs is to steal African lands and the land of the world at large. Heck, Mohammad called the blacks several nonsense name in his nonsense Quran. Annoying thing was how they stole the northern Africans lands after murdering the Northern Africans.

MaxInDHouse:
Guy the name you call that stone or story behind it's of no relevance now what everyone can see you people bowing towards is a black stone in Mecca!

MaxInDHouse:
That's what they told you but what we all see you bow to is the stone in Mecca!

TenQ:
No problem.
Jesus n very came to have any slave. He came to. give salvation to all.

Jesus was poor because he didn't rob those He came to preach to.
Unlike your prophet who made a law to collect 20% of war booties. Any woman can give herself for sex with Mohammed and even the married ones too. His greed was so. much that they said he stole an underwear!

It is not a shame to be poor. It is a shame to be rich from the tears and destruction of others.


Again :
Are you ashamed to compare Jesus with Mohammed even from the Qur'an and Hadiths alone?

MaxInDHouse:
It's really difficult explaining to a person born and taught to believe that when people having different ideologies are all claiming a path they truly all belong to that path.

Would you like to know what Jesus taught?

That is the only way to IDENTIFY his disciples for real.

Today you can be deceived by the pretext that all those claiming Muslims bow towards the stone in Mecca but what is the essence of such gullibility when Muslims are killing Muslims due to politics? What role is Allah playing? What has the teachings of Muhammad got to do in this regard?

The title "GOD" connotes SUPREME BEING so if there is truly a God in your midst nothing should lead Muslims bowing to the same God into killing one another.

That's one thing Jesus commanded his own disciples and it really makes sense! John 13:34-35

Only Jehovah's Witnesses practice this!

TenQ:
I perfectly agree with you!

For Jesus came to serve and not to be served and of course, His kingdom is not of this world you agree is a slave too but why are you calling him King because I never heard about a poorest king like your lord

Unlike some prophets who used to collect alms from people in the name of God for their own consumption and who collect for themselves 20% of the best war booties

He never collected arm proof it
And he may collected 20% because he is not greedy in the bible Mouse said ur lord tell them to share all what they capture after killing the kids,older people, women but leaves only the underage kid of 32,0000 as Thier best war booties
Not to talk of Solomon and David 😂😂😂
Don't you think that absurd

TenQ:
Tell me if any prophet abolished slavery and we can start from that point.

Are you ashamed to compare Jesus with Mohammed even from the Qur'an and Hadiths alone?

TenQ:
So Paul should tell slaves who became Christians to kill their masters!?
Tell me, what advice do you have for Paul as he is a leather tanner thus not rich like Abubakr!

You see the fruit of Islam!?

But, it isn't about Paul neither is it about Abubakr. We should compare Jesus and Mohammed : and it is like comparing day with night!

TenQ:
So Paul should tell slaves who became Christians to kill their masters!?
You are sick Paul said they should subjugate to the arsh master isn't that not bad influence
Tell me, what advice do you have for Paul as he is a leather tanner thus not rich like Abubakr!

You see the fruit of Islam!?

But, it isn't about Paul neither is it about Abubakr. We should compare Jesus and Mohammed : and it is like comparing day with night!

illicit:
any body that support slavery is mad....

TenQ:
Truly it was Emancipation from Umayyah ibn Khalaf but not from Abubakr otherwise there is no need for a free man to give the statement of Bilal.

Bilal is simply challenging Abubakr to set him free if Indeed he bought him for the sake of Allah.

It is you who need to go back to learn English comprehension

“Abu Bakr is our master and he emancipated our master,” meaning Bilal."

According to the text above, who is the " our Master "?

honesttalk21:
You don't see that despite all what was metted out to Bilal as torture to denounce his faith he didn't. He was ready to die. So even if he was grateful it's good he makes sure he wasn't leaving one problem and going straight into another.



I am not denying my post. Does what I say contradict it? Define or discuss Jihad if you prefer to see that my subsequent posts contradict it. Is Jihad just war?-

TenQ:
Truly it was Emancipation from Umayyah ibn Khalaf but not from Abubakr otherwise there is no need for a free man to give the statement of Bilal.

Bilal is simply challenging Abubakr to set him free if Indeed he bought him for the sake of Allah.

It is you who need to go back to learn English comprehension

“Abu Bakr is our master and he emancipated our master,” meaning Bilal."

According to the text above, who is the " our Master "?

MaxInDHouse:
Let's say you're just joking about this because shi'ites and sunnis both claim Muslims yet they are perpetual enemies. What i realized in Islam is the deceit that all Muslims can worship in the same mosque but that doesn't stop[b] Muslims who both climbed Arafat from raising weapons against one another.[/b] So is the christians that they don't fight and raised weapon for political reason

So what is the position of Allah when Muslims are killing Muslims due to political reasons?

You've thoroughly deceived because instead of finding out what Jesus laid down as tenets for his disciples all that matters to you is different religions claiming Christians when you yourself can see that they are different religions!

TenQ:
Just a little point your reinvention of story didn't cover.

Bilal was a slave and thus couldn't be a master at the same time.

Do you know what it proves?

The statement :
"Jabir ibn Abdullah reported: Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, used to say, “Abu Bakr is our master and he emancipated our master,” meaning Bilal."

could NOT have been made when Abubakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself.

This rubishes all your cock and bull story to rewrite history

Kobojunkie:
Well, let's start with you telling us exactly were you got this idea that only those who met with Jesus Christ in person could know and write down His Words as He said it?

Kobojunkie:
I read the book of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, books which were all written during the first century, the same generation that Jesus Christ had been a part of. That is how I came to believe in the person of Jesus Christ.

MaxInDHouse:
I know you're a Muslim but then this is the same question i asked when i was a Muslim i find it difficult to associate with any group though i know there are different doctrines in Islam too.
So when i asking started those claiming Christians the same question only one group proved they are the one all others kept beating about the bush as they can't point to the Bible to support what they are practicing as the only way Jesus approves!

TenQ:
Unfortunately for you: Jesus is no ordinary human being.
Is it untrue that, According to your religion, Jesus is the Word of Allah and a Spirit from Him.

It is wonderful that we Christians are bailed out by the Divine and it take us Christians and Jews to bail you out from Hell.

Secondly,
Why then did Allah say that he would sacrifice Christians and Jews so that you Muslims can enter Al-Jahanna.

Sahih Muslim 2767 a
Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:
When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.

Sahih Muslim 2767 b
Abu Burda reported on the authority of his father that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said:
No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire. 'Umar b. Abd al-'Aziz took an oath: By One besides Whom there is no god but He, thrice that his father had narrated that to him from Allah's Messenger (ﷺ).

Why is Allah using ordinary Christians and Jews for the Salvation of you Muslims.

TenQ:
Then tell us WHY Bilal said this to Abubakr

Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."


Again :
Abu Bakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself. He loaned him to Mohammed to be his megaphone for calling Muslims to prayer



Who told you that there is no war or slavery in the Bible?
Is this another Strawman argument!?

Even the children of Isreal were slaves in Egypt and with the Babylonians and with the Assyrians etc And they themselves have captured slaves in war.

The question is about the one you use to entice black people : Bilal was never set free from slavery. If he was, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free.

Kobojunkie:
I believe in Jesus Christ alone. Did Jesus Christ send anybody to follow other men? Did Jesus Christ send anyone of His own out to build your churches using His name? Did Jesus Christ hand what you refer to as religion to any man out there? Did Jesus Christ send any of His followers to going to your churches? Answer me this. Look in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John to find the answer.

TenQ:
Then tell us WHY Bilal said this to Abubakr

Sahih al-Bukhari 3755
Narrated Qais:
Bilal said to Abu Bakr, " If you have bought me for yourself then keep me (for yourself), but if you have bought me for Allah's Sake , then leave me for Allah's Work."


Again :
Abu Bakr emancipated Bilal FROM Umayyah ibn Khalaf by buying him for himself. He loaned him to Mohammed to be his megaphone for calling Muslims to prayer



Who told you that there is no war or slavery in the Bible?
Is this another Strawman argument!?

Even the children of Isreal were slaves in Egypt and with the Babylonians and with the Assyrians etc And they themselves have captured slaves in war.

The question is about the one you use to entice black people : Bilal was never set free from slavery. If he was, tell us when and the occurence when Abubakr set Bilal free.

Kobojunkie:
I see you are stuck in religion and cannot reason well that which is outside of the religious walls that surround you.

TenQ:
David was condemned and punished by God for his sin of Adultery with Batsheba (the wife of Uriah)


Allah supported Mohammed in his Zina with his wive's slave!

Is there not a big difference!?

Kobojunkie:
You mean that anybody who is of the religion of Christianity will sha belong to sect or church? Well, Did Jesus Christ give the religion(even the religion called Christianity) to any man or people? Where in Scripture do you find this idea from?

Again, Did Jesus Christ say anywhere in His Gospel that you must attend a church to be of or have Him? What aspect of Scripture do you get this need to attend a church from?

Kobojunkie:
Did Jesus Christ say anywhere in His Gospel that you must attend a church to be of or have Him? What aspect of Scripture do you get this need to attend a church from?

AntiChristian:
Stealing a pen(cil) won't result in hand cutting in the Shar'iah!

Except if the pen(cil) is made of real gold/silver/diamond!

Kobojunkie:
The teachings of Jesus Christ which are almost 2000 years old are written in the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John for anyone truly interested in learning of Him. His Words are older than that of any man and more mature than any man's intelligence.

Dsimmer:
Ode, I said pronounced as J, not J alphabet!
Try to use your brain for once, instead of destroying it with Arab stupidity!

Africans aren't known to be dumb!

The Jews were Africans for example!

These were the pictures of the Jews.

VeryWickedMan:
Not even a body part for burial.
This is staged.

Wigwe is chilling in Antarctica spraying billions of dollars on sexy penguins.

Dsimmer:
See gibberish!

I thought I gave you several other names with J pronunciation from Yee? Such as Joshua, Judah etc.

If not stupidity and mental case, why would a sane man take serious a Peadophilic Terrorist Arab man fabricating nonsense about the Jewish history different from the original several centuries later? Is that in his place to start with? Let alone several centuries later!

Same Peadophilic Terrorist Arab man who kept saying trash about Africans? Jews were actually Africans btw.