They were not rich. If you check the Bible in Philippians 4:15‭-‬17 GNT it says. You Philippians know very well that when I left Macedonia in the early days of preaching the Good News, *_you were the only church to help me_* ; you were the only ones who shared my profits and losses. *_More than once when I needed help in Thessalonica,* you sent it to me._ It is not that I just want to receive gifts; rather, I want to see profit added to your account. So Paul admitted that he needed help. Have u seen a rich man needing help from people? Most of our rich pastors today don't need your help.they have more than enough because they have unlocked the riches Jesus made available to christain's. instead the say you should give to the furtherance of the gospel.

Truvel:
They Were Rich. Why? They Didn't Lack Anything. Jesus Himself Asked Them? Lackest Thou Anything? They Said No. So, It's Obvious That They Were Rich & Even According To D Book Of Acts, People Brought Money At Their Feet, Some Even Sold Their Lands Or Properties & Brought D Money At Their Feet It Out Too. They Had More Than Enough. The Were Also Favoured By People. God Gave Them Favour. Read Acts Chater4 & 5.

This proves the devill and his corhorts are up to something.

Shelumiel:
He is a Transgender

Base on popular opinions that God share's his Glory what do you think? Jesus said. I gave them the same glory you gave me, so that they may be one, just as you and I are one: I in them and you in me, so that they may be completely one, in order that the world may know that you sent me and that you love them as you love me.
John 17:22‭-‬23 GNT
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
Is Jesus our Lord saying we share glory with the father?

It was far better. In those day they used precious metals like gold,silver,bronze etc. And it was per piece or weight. So it better

Uzomacharles:


Money rate as of them were not the same

Please don't misunderstand me I don't wish for you to be poor but what I said is be it according to your own wish no mine. Now the answer you gave is what we call wealth not excessively rich. But the apostles were not so. they had to depend on the people for anything they need and sometimes they complained they also need material things. See Gal 6:6

thesicilian:

Lol, do you think I believe the wishes/prayers/curses of a random person can have any effect on me? I'm just replying you because I am a bit idle.

And to answer your question, the kind of riches I want is what I call background wealth: enough money for me and my immediate family never to worry for our lifetimes, but not too much as to have everyone overly focused on me. And above all, lots and lots of connections from people I have helped in one way or the other, such that I can pick up the phone and grant someone a favour without having to pay money for it.

God no go shame us

Siberia01:



will never reach FP

My answer to you is decision! This is where God's leading through his spirit comes in. Though he has given us all we need for life and we have a short time to live on earth therefore can't accomplish all he has given us. This calls for wisdom, we have to choose wisely. We must allow only those things that will allow us to do all of God's will for our lives. For example if the pursuit for riches will hinder you from doing all of his will for your life you should avoid being rich for the Lord's sake. Yes! This understanding was with the apostles and they choose wisely.
Finishing your course in God is better than having all the good life on earth and
loose your soul. This is what prosperity teachers may not tell you. Be wise!
The teaching that God wants you rich, healthy, wealthy etc is a serious problem to the body of Christ. Those teachings dont give you the option to choose from. It cause the church to go after riches even though it will effect their walk with God. As a result a lot are misguided. The teaching does not recognize or acknowledge the poor (Christians without money) it places a fault on them and their walk with God, therefore the teaching is false. Jesus recognized poor Christians and didn't promise them earthly riches but went further to charge them to please the Lord. If you look at Revelation 2:9 AMP "‘I know your suffering and your poverty (but you are rich), and how you are blasphemed and slandered by those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan [they are Jews only by blood, and do not believe and truly honor the God whom they claim to worship"].

It is hard for the Christians of today to allow not being rich for the Lord's sake because wrong teachings has put the love of money in them. You must understand that the journey of a child of God is a test of his faithfulness toward God. Yes God tests us with any tough situation including
poverty. Yes he does! It depends on what he chooses to allow come our way. Jesus will say to us in judgment 'you faithful servant"... according to scripture in Luke 19:17. He will not call you faithful because you believed his works on the cross but because you obeyed in spite of all trials until the end. This is not some poverty mentality gospel when some Christians of old ignorantly rejected riches because they thought it's not Christianly to be rich. No! This is about knowing the infinite riches we have in Christ (Ephesians 3: and yet allow poverty or lack for the sake of one's walk with the Lord. Do not get it wrong, it is not everyone who must allow lack for the sake of the Lord. It's personal not general. Choose to please God with your life for Christianity is total submission to the will of God.

fanenene:
If God gave us all we need for Godly life through the death and resurrection of jesus why was Peter or Paul not rich? Philippians 4:19 and 2conrithians 8:9

CAN I GET AN ANSWER.

It will be an Insult to say Jesus was rich. He was not because in him was where the rich christain's have today came out from.

lomprico:


was Jesus super rich?

This is the one person that seem to know what he is saying.

petra1:


Its a choice. They also had their mandate from christ. For example none of them was ordained to die natural death. That doesnt mean same thing must apply to everyone else. Every man should stay in his assignment

So let me ask you be sincere to yourself which can of riches do u want in your life? And as you answer so shall it be in your life.

thesicilian:

Exactly. It's only an unwise person who thinks riches is all about money.

I asked what where they not rich like our christain's of this days.

Ehiscotch:


Your question is not fully posed. What do you call needs? They had all they needed for the purpose for which God called them, that's all that matters..
Like you said, God knows what we need; and He is ready to supply us according to his riches in glory.

You also should properly define your question, because a need is different from want.

I agree I am a small boy spiritually. But if that happened today you will blamed that you don't have faith or you are not doing something.

viyon02:
op I guess you are a small boy spiritually, firstly, you are very wrong to compare apostles era to our present generation, never you compare your pastors to the apostles which are appointed by Jesus himself, while your pastors are appointed by the devil itself in order to decive you.

If u have your basic need meet will be happy.eg food and clothes and shelter not expensive clothes or banana island shelter or sumptiuos foods. Just normal things.

CodeTemplar:
They had their needs met. That's all that matters.

They did not live in abundance as our christain's live today. Is it wrong the answer is no

Uzomacharles:
What did they lack?

That is what alot of person will say today but is not the reason.

LordIsaac:
It is because, according to our motivational speakers cum pastors today, they didn't have much "faith"... Yet, Peter's shadow was raising the dead! It is only heaven that will forgive these gods of men making merchandize of the souls of men quoting Solomon and Abraham. It is a very grievous evil equating the sacrifice of Christ on the cross with material things Christ rebuked Satan for.

It's not about twisting the Bible it's a question because they had all it takes to make them rich but they where not.

lomprico:
they will come and twist the bible for you now the way they say Jesus was super rich during his time here on earth.

If God gave us all we need for Godly life through the death and resurrection of jesus why was Peter or Paul not rich? Philippians 4:19 and 2conrithians 8:9

CAN I GET AN ANSWER.

Thank you but this man is a legend

sylve11:
interesting read.

Nice one @ op.

Thank you

YoonSung20:
Hmmmm OP you tried!

TODAY IN HISTORY WILLIAM TYNDALE WAS STRANGLED AND BURNT ON THE STAKE FOR TRANSLATING THE BIBLE FOR ALL TO UNDERSTAND.

"Tyndale" (1494 – 6 October 1536) was an English scholar who became a leading figure in the Protestant Reformation in the years leading up to his execution. He is well known as a translator of the Bible into English, influenced by the works of Erasmus of Rotterdam and Martin Luther.

Tyndale Bible
A number of partial English translations had been made from the 7th century onwards, but the religious ferment caused by Wycliffe's Bible in the late 14th century led to the death penalty for anyone found in unlicensed possession of Scripture in English, although translations were available in all other major European languages.

Tyndale worked during a Renaissance of scholarship, which saw the publication of Reuchlin's Hebrew grammar in 1506. Greek was available to the European scholarly community for the first time in centuries, as it welcomed Greek-speaking intellectuals and texts following the fall of Constantinople in 1453. Notably, Erasmus compiled, edited, and published the Greek Scriptures in 1516. Luther's German Bible appeared in 1522.

Tyndale's translation was the first English Bible to draw directly from Hebrew and Greek texts, the first English translation to take advantage of the printing press, the first of the new English Bibles of the Reformation, and the first English translation to use Jehovah ("Iehouah" as God's name as preferred by English Protestant Reformers. It was taken to be a direct challenge to the hegemony of both the Catholic Church and the laws of England maintaining the church's position.

A copy of Tyndale's The Obedience of a Christian Man (1528), which some claim or interpreted to argue that the king of a country should be the head of that country's church rather than the pope, fell into the hands of the English King Henry VIII, providing a rationale to break the Church in England from the Catholic Church in 1534. In 1530, Tyndale wrote The Practyse of Prelates, opposing Henry's annulment of his own marriage on the grounds that it contravened Scripture.[6] Fleeing England, Tyndale sought refuge in the Flemish territory of the Catholic Emperor Charles V. In 1535, Tyndale was arrested and jailed in the castle of Vilvoorde (Filford) outside Brussels for over a year. In 1536, he was convicted of heresy and executed by strangulation, after which his body was burnt at the stake. His dying prayer was that the King of England's eyes would be opened; this seemed to find its fulfilment just one year later with Henry's authorisation of the Matthew Bible, which was largely Tyndale's own work, with missing sections translated by John Rogers and Miles Coverdale.

Tyndale's translation of the Bible was plagiarized for subsequent English translations, including the Great Bible and the Bishops' Bible, authorised by the Church of England. In 1611, the 47 scholars who produced the King James Bible drew significantly from Tyndale's original work and the other translations that descended from his. One estimate suggests that the New Testament in the King James Version is 83% Tyndale's words and the Old Testament 76%. Hence, the work of Tyndale continued to play a key role in spreading Reformation ideas across the English-speaking world and eventually across the British Empire. In 2002, Tyndale was placed 26th in the BBC's poll of the 100 Greatest Britons.

LIFE
Tyndale was born around 1494 in Melksham Court, Stinchcombe, a village near Dursley, Gloucestershire. The Tyndale family also went by the name Hychyns (Hitchins), and it was as William Hychyns that Tyndale was enrolled at Magdalen Hall, Oxford. Tyndale's family had moved to Gloucestershire at some point in the 15th century, probably as a result of the Wars of the Roses. The family originated from Northumberland via East Anglia. Tyndale's brother Edward was receiver to the lands of Lord Berkeley, as attested to in a letter by Bishop Stokesley of London.

Tyndale is recorded in two genealogies as having been the brother of Sir William Tyndale of Deane, Northumberland, and Hockwold, Norfolk, who was knighted at the marriage of Arthur, Prince of Wales to Catherine of Aragon. Tyndale's family was thus descended from Baron Adam de Tyndale, a tenant-in-chief of Henry I. William Tyndale's niece Margaret Tyndale was married to Protestant martyr Rowland Taylor, burnt during the Marian Persecutions.

At Oxford
Tyndale began a Bachelor of Arts degree at Magdalen Hall (later Hertford College) of Oxford University in 1506 and received his B.A. in 1512, the same year becoming a subdeacon. He was made Master of Arts in July 1515 and was held to be a man of virtuous disposition, leading an unblemished life. The M.A. allowed him to start studying theology, but the official course did not include the systematic study of Scripture. As Tyndale later complained:

They have ordained that no man shall look on the Scripture, until he be noselled in heathen learning eight or nine years and armed with false principles, with which he is clean shut out of the understanding of the Scripture.

He was a gifted linguist and became fluent over the years in French, Greek, Hebrew, German, Italian, Latin, and Spanish, in addition to English. Between 1517 and 1521, he went to the University of Cambridge. Erasmus had been the leading teacher of Greek there from August 1511 to January 1512, but not during Tyndale's time at the university.

Tyndale became chaplain at the home of Sir John Walsh at Little Sodbury in Gloucestershire and tutor to his children around 1521. His opinions proved controversial to fellow clergymen, and the next year he was summoned before John Bell, the Chancellor of the Diocese of Worcester, although no formal charges were laid at the time. After the meeting with Bell and other church leaders, Tyndale, according to John Foxe, had an argument with a "learned but blasphemous clergyman", who allegedly asserted: "We had better be without God's laws than the Pope's.", to which Tyndale responded: "I defy the Pope, and all his laws; and if God spares my life, ere many years, I will cause the boy that driveth the plow to know more of the Scriptures than thou dost!"

Tyndale left for London in 1523 to seek permission to translate the Bible into English. He requested help from Bishop Cuthbert Tunstall, a well-known classicist who had praised Erasmus after working together with him on a Greek New Testament. The bishop, however, declined to extend his patronage, telling Tyndale that he had no room for him in his household.Tyndale preached and studied "at his book" in London for some time, relying on the help of cloth merchant Humphrey Monmouth. During this time, he lectured widely, including at St Dunstan-in-the-West at Fleet Street in London.

IN EUROPE

The beginning of the Gospel of John, from Tyndale's 1525 translation of the New Testament.
Tyndale left England for continental Europe, perhaps at Hamburg, in the spring of 1524, possibly travelling on to Wittenberg. There is an entry in the matriculation registers of the University of Wittenberg of the name "Guillelmus Daltici ex Anglia", and this has been taken to be a Latinisation of "William Tyndale from England". He began translating the New Testament at this time, possibly in Wittenberg, completing it in 1525 with assistance from Observant Friar William Roy.

In 1525, publication of the work by Peter Quentell in Cologne was interrupted by the impact of anti-Lutheranism. A full edition of the New Testament was produced in 1526 by printer Peter Schöffer in Worms, a free imperial city then in the process of adopting Lutheranism. More copies were soon printed in Antwerp. It was smuggled from continental Europe into England and Scotland. The translation was condemned in October 1526 by Bishop Tunstall, who issued warnings to booksellers and had copies burned in public. Marius notes that the "spectacle of the scriptures being put to the torch... provoked controversy even amongst the faithful." Cardinal Wolsey condemned Tyndale as a heretic, first stated in open court in January 1529.

From an entry in George Spalatin's diary for 11 August 1526, Tyndale apparently remained at Worms for about a year. It is not clear exactly when he moved to Antwerp. The colophon to Tyndale's translation of Genesis and the title pages of several pamphlets from this time purported to have been printed by Hans Lufft at Marburg, but this is a false address. Lufft, the printer of Luther's books, never had a printing press at Marburg.

Tyndale, before being strangled and burned at the stake in Vilvoorde, cries out, "Lord, open the King of England's eyes". Woodcut from Foxe's Book of Martyrs (1563).
Following the hostile reception of his work by Tunstall, Wolsey and Thomas More in England, Tyndale retreated into hiding in Hamburg and continued working. He revised his New Testament and began translating the Old Testament and writing various treatises.

Opposition to Henry VIII's annulment
In 1530, he wrote The Practyse of Prelates, opposing Henry VIII's planned annulment of his marriage to Catherine of Aragon in favour of Anne Boleyn, on the grounds that it was unscriptural and that it was a plot by Cardinal Wolsey to get Henry entangled in the papal courts of Pope Clement VII. The king's wrath was aimed at Tyndale. Henry asked Emperor Charles V to have the writer apprehended and returned to England under the terms of the Treaty of Cambrai; however, the emperor responded that formal evidence was required before extradition. Tyndale developed his case in An Answer unto Sir Thomas More's Dialogue.

THE BETRAYAL AND DEATH
Eventually, Tyndale was betrayed by Henry Phillips to the imperial authorities, seized in Antwerp in 1535, and held in the castle of Vilvoorde (Filford) near Brussels.[36] Some suspect that Phillips was hired by Bishop Stokesley to gain Tyndale's confidence and then betray him. He was tried on a charge of heresy in 1536 and was condemned to be burned to death despite Thomas Cromwell's intercession on his behalf. Tyndale "was strangled to death while tied at the stake, and then his dead body was burned". His final words, spoken "at the stake with a fervent zeal, and a loud voice", were reported as "Lord! Open the King of England's eyes." The traditional date of commemoration is 6 October, but records of Tyndale's imprisonment suggest that the actual date of his execution might have been some weeks earlier. Foxe gives 6 October as the date of commemoration (left-hand date column), but gives no date of death (right-hand date column).Biographer David Daniell states the date of death only as "one of the first days of October 1536".

Within four years, four English translations of the Bible were published in England at the king's behest, including Henry's official Great Bible. All were based on Tyndale's work.

Homosexuality was not created by God not at all. but see if you don't understand how these things work you might confused. its start with things(homosexuality spirits) from the devil released to the atmosphere so as you breath it, it enters into you along side with thoughts and with time which can be years you notice that you are feeling a certain way, it actually reconfigure you internal system which makes you feel the new was you ought to feel. And as soon as you allow it it grows and become stronger in your system and thereby making you act the way you and think the way you. You notice that as a man you now prefer men rather than women and as a woman you prefer women to men.

Durentt:
to not act on their natural same sex desires.


why??

or is it the devil that creates homosexual people?

religion is one of the principal reasons people hate homosexuals today.

That's the power behind the name not power in the name. If that person was not a president will the name carry power? So it's the person behind the name that makes it powerful I rest my case.

Wealthyblaqboy1:
The name of jesus christ is more than just like a condemned robber at the point of execution by firing a message was sent in the name of the country President and the execution was aborted immediately. That's what I called (power that name have) thanks

OK

petra1:


Maybe I didn't get your point let me read your post again

The above scripture you quoted was "in my name" not with my name get the difference. and I am not disputing the fact that the authority on Jesus cannot be used to cast away demons. What I am saying is the power is not in the name but on the person that has the name. So without a proper knowledge of the person the name is not useful to the one who uses it.

petra1:


You a video evidence of demons being cast out in his name? . There are many on youtube


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOprZJ2CbR0



What other sending do you need beyond. The authority is given already

Mark 16:17
And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
.

No I do not have an ailment. What I said is I mean now go and do it now and I need a pictorial evidence or a video recording to discard what I am saying. I can tell you for sure that if the Lord Jesus does not send you and you go off your own accord you may experience what there experience in acts 19:13-16

petra1:


I've done that to many. Do you have an ailment?

Ok please look for a mad man around you now and cast the evil spirit from him in the name of jesus and see what will happen. Pls give me feedback.

petra1:


Its talking about evil spirit bowing under his authority not human being

Oya wherever you are go outside where there are people and call the name of Jesus and see if anyone will bow their knee and give me feedback back. If possible pictorial evidence. Also God almighty still run the show till date but he runs through his son jesus remember Jesus is the son of God not God. And remember God is the one that exulted Jesus not Jesus exalting himself.

petra1:


Yes every knee bow. If you use the name in faith . Jehovah God is not the one running the show he has committed all authority to christ and his name

John 3:35
The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

It says every kneel shall bow. Which kneel was it referring to? When it talks about kneel bowing it a sign of reverence. In the days of old when a king passes every head and kneel bow as he pass as a sign of Reverence. Now it says at mention of the name which is JESUS every knee shall bow Meaning reverence because God has highly exalted him and given him a name that is above all every other name even the earthly kings name. Till date when u go to England you will hear words like in the name of the queen in other words by the Queen's authority. But you cannot use the Queen's authority if you don't know the queen of have a personal relationship with the queen it will be said to be a fraud. But in the case of JESUS it will not work because you don't know him and it's not in the will of the father to do that thing that you ask. If you doubt it try it and give me feed back.

silibaba:
you bow in the spirit

THERE IS NO POWER IN THE NAME OF JESUS
A prophecy is given by God according to how man chooses to go but the will of God is what Christians have been called to do. The whole world runs according to the prophecies that have been given by God but not the whole World runs according to thewill of God.
If the name of Jesus carries
power to do anything we desire as taught, what happens to the will of God? If we can use the name at will to do whatever we want then it means Godswill will be set aside but God's will cannot be set aside. Jesus let us know that he came to do the Father's will (Heb 10:9) and we are here to do same. God will not set up a structure to go against his own will and his will has to do with doing his work according to his pattern and at his own time.That is, he leads you according to what he has planned before hand. God gave Jesus all power because he was pleased with him and Jesus was a part of him and brings glory to him but that is not our place. He did not give man any power to have on his own rather Jesus works through us to fulfill the father's will. Jesus gave us his name as a means to connect to God in faith to do what he has said. If you doubt that you can try and do anything, I mean
ANYTHING as you teach or have been taught, and please come forward and prove your self with works not talk only. it is time to start defending the message 'God' gave you. Even our Lord Jesus while on earth never claimed he would or could do things that wasn't written of God yet ministers nowadays say they can do anything. Jesus told us of things he could do and not do (john 6:38).Our Lord Jesus told us he doesn't know the time he will come only the father knows. He also said the father is greater than him yet some teach that he is co-equal with God. Such contradicting teaching. Have you seen a Co-equal that the other is greater than? Don't tell me Jesus was being humble. Humility does not deny fact.
Also, you claimed God gave birth to you through his word as a mother gives birth to a child then how come you were adopted? Since when do we adopt our biological children? If we were born how come we became joint heirs with Christ? You can only be joint heir when you are not originally born by the father of the child you are joining to.
When you start struggling with the truth to agree with then it's evident you don't stand with God and the truth but with the individual whom you believe in.

What I am trying to say is when u read the post you will discover that the power is on Jesus not his name. But we have been taught that the power is in the name. We have to get it right when u call the name in other words you are standing on the authority that is bestowed on Jesus. I know you believe in Jesus so ask for 10million in the name of Jesus and give me feedback.

Dtruthspeaker:


Not when any Ojo, Okey and fanenene, mentions the Name nor for any trivial matter But Only in the Mouths of Those Who are His True Children, Worlds Change!

Let's be practical now when u mention the name of Jesus do every knee bow?

If you have any questions bring it on.